Monday, August 18, 2008
Debating Georgia conflict

The ongoing conflict between Russia and Georgia has sparked a fierce reaction on iReport.com. Tensions between the two countries remain high, and that's been reflected in the angry barbs and accusations that are being tossed around on the site. There have been a few flashes of moderation. iReporter Racoon says it's wrong to blame the people for their goverments' actions. "When you guys say "Russia murdered," try to think twice before saying that. Better say "politicians" of the "regime". But not Russians … common people are mourning over those killed on both sides. BuddhaGeo , an 18-year-old Georgian, said there's plenty of blame to go around. "Both sides have made a large mistake, neither side is right here and neither side is wrong, both sides are guilty," he said in an impassioned video . We encourage our community to let us know about other good discussions on iReport.com, or start your own dialog in the comments below.

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August 19, 2008
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People! Tell, how it is possible to be such blind, in fact Russia did not interfere at all in Georgia, everything, that it made, it protected peace inhabitants of South Ossetia and the Russian citizens who appeared in a zone of the conflict during bombardment of Georgia. Russia did not attack Georgia and did not bomb it, this error which want to impose to all people of a planet and the world community. It is Georgia has attacked South Ossetia at night on August, 8 2008года. Bombardment of city proceeded about 15 hours on end, not interrupting at all for a second thus all rules of conducting war have been broken, peace inhabitants have been severely killed. The Georgian tanks went on streets of Tskhinvali and bombed refuges in which people were hidden, burnt alive women and children!!!! Unless it is not enough of it? Russia here at anything!!!

August 19, 2008
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7558144.stm

 

This shows how the Russians don't care about killing Georgians.

August 19, 2008
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Mcaine says he can win a war, Get ready for the flash we will see. It would be wiser to know how to make PEACE than WAR.

August 19, 2008
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I do not see why Bush and Mcaine need to start a war over this when they have let thousads be murdered in Africa. Is it because they are black,with the excuse of no intrest?

August 19, 2008
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wE KILL IN THE usa KIDS, more each year than all wars the world hase to offer.and we tell others how to live. try one million plus per year in the USA kids killed, then ask us to run another country. these are things that is a fact. Is this the USA to be proud of? NO

August 20, 2008
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Russia is not the problem. If we put missls in Poland, It is like the same to us if they put them in Cuba I think our leaders are trying to start a war, and there will be no winners,only death.

August 20, 2008
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Go and push the button that willkill all of us Bush it is what you allways wanted,may you get the firewall up youre ass.

August 20, 2008
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Bush is placing a missle in Poland. It is like they are putting the same in Cuba does this make since? I cant speel to good but I do know when someone is looking for a fight. Will it end with a flash we will all see? Bush is a bully. and we all pay the price because of it.

August 20, 2008
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Mccaine will win wars, we will pay the price of war,I need a leader that can think of how to avoid a war than to start one like Bush. Mccaine and Bush must be brothers they love war and will find one somewhere.

August 20, 2008
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As the Georgian president said thoes Russians are thugs and murderers an I doubt Russia is mourning the dead from this conflict. I think that Georgia should be admitted into NATO immediateley, for thier protection and welfare. We the U.S have bases throughout Germany that could support Georgia through flying missions reconasence and secutity to keep Russia at bay. We need to send an Aircraft carrier task force in the Black Sea so that Gerogians can feel safe and not affraid.

August 20, 2008
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Missfoxyall, I agree we need to not fight but you've got to show strength to strength.And as for our Black brothers in Africa they won't do anything our usa because the are Black and have no oil in darfur that they know of anyway, nothing to offer so why go there? Sad but true and that's why they let Rowanda do what thy did and McCain had the nerve to bring Rowanda up Saturday night what a joke!!

August 20, 2008
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There is no real US military option... period... unless we all start enlisting.

August 20, 2008
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How fast can the sky be cleared of the Russian airforce gets to the question how many tanks can be destroyed and how fast can Russians run from them to keep it from becoming massacre.

 

It also ponders the question how stupid can Putin be to risk that scenario because the anhialation of tanks trying to move has proven quite possible.  It would quickly lead to only one outcome and that is a nuclear threat because there would be no army to fight except for a well armed defensive nato.  It would quickly be an escalation once the fight starts with a modern army.  Everyone knows and fears that.

 

Putin has proven to be quite capable of underestimating as well as over estimating outcomes.  this has just started and can quickly escalate once the air war starts it will quickly be in space.

 

Will the first nuke be fired from a former soviet satellite and what will putin do when that happens.  strike the US ?

 

Putin is not as bright as one might hope.  He has poked at a giant with few options.

August 20, 2008
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If you are poor and Iam I have been told it is my fault that taxes are up and I say we are not so dum to ellet, a dumass called Bush

August 22, 2008
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You are killing innocent people. Remember that Shouth Osetia Is Georgia and Not Russia. Siberia is Russia. Go home, go. You are dreaming about Communism and the Soviet Union. Forget about this and go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

August 22, 2008
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Scary thing is that Putin isn't interested in a proxy war with the west he dares NATO to take the bait to join his WW3.  Do the Russian people also want WW3? 

 

This was not only an act of war against Georgia but is an invitation to react in an exponential air to conventional  war.  Not a cold war.

August 23, 2008
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Times to remember.While the Russian tanks are still rolling in Georgia, it was 40 years ago in 1968 when Soviet army invaded Czechoslovakia and destroyed any attempts of then  moderate goverment under pres. Dubcek.

I just wish to remind people that nothing has changed much about the Russian arrogance and imperialism.Their thirst for power over the neighbouring nations remains same , no matter which goverment rules there.When Soviet Union collapsed in 90.` I was dancing on their graves but as you can witness now, the " bastard is still alive".

August 25, 2008
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HI FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POUND WE OVER HEAR ARE AS BAFFLED AS SOME OF YOUR READERS, WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY BUSH WANTS TO START A WAR WITH RUSSIA, THE BBC HAS BEEN BANNED FROM TALKING ABOUT SOUTH OSSETIYA, BY SOMEBODY BUT WHY???WAS IT THE MISINFORMATION PUT OUT BY AMERICA ON THAT THE SOUTH OSSETIYA HAD INVADED GEORGIA?? OR WHAT THE HELL DO THE AMERICANS WANT FROM GEORGIA, THE ONLY THING WE CAN THINK OF IS OIL, CAN SOME AMERICAN PLEASE TELL US WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. WE ARE NOT TOLD ANYTHING

 

    THANK YOU

August 25, 2008
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hey, Compulsion,nobody wants to start war with you ,but maybe you can explain to us why Putin is so agressive and want to invade and dictate any nationalities next to your border ??? Russian imperialism has to stop!!

40 years ago, your tanks destroyed Czechoslovakia and now you are looting Georgia. Enough !!!

August 29, 2008
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I am convinced by the choice of Sarah Palin as John Mc Cain's Vice President that he has decided to throw in the towel.

August 29, 2008
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Sarah Palin is absolutely brilliant and beautiful!!!! Joe Biden is a joke and an idiot!!!! He is Mr.Gaff maker himself with his dumb racists comments about Obama being a sort of main stream clean and articulate Afican American running for president for the first time, and his comments insulting Indian Americans working in 7-11's and speaking with an accent! He insulted millions of people of color!!!

August 29, 2008
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I HOPE WE DON'T GET THAT 3 A.M. CALL AND McCAIN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY IS IN TROUBLE NOW. I'M A NURSE AT LEAST I CAN HELP. GO OBAMA

August 30, 2008
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I think at this point we are all speculating on something we do not know yet. There will be an independent investigation. Let the experts do their job. A couple from Quebec jumped on me today when they heard I was Georgian; I guess they have their own concern about independence of Quebec from Canada, but it is not up to us. It is up to international norms and we all have to comply with it.

August 30, 2008
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As a person who doesn’t have a dog in this hunt I suppose I look at things a little different than most Americans do. But it seems to me that people like James Carville and many of the others calling John McCain’s choice for VP ridiculous are talking out of both sides of their mouth at the same time. How can anyone criticize Palin for her lack of experience in Foreign Affairs and claim that she is not sufficiently prepared to step into the position of Commander and Chief while in the same breath attempt to convince the voters that Obama who has even less experience should be the person you vote for as your next Commander and Chief. Do you just get the feeling that maybe Mr. McCain whiffed a 95 MPH fastball past the DEMS? My advice to the Democrats would be to get off the experience thing before they (The Republicans ) bury  your candidate with it.

August 31, 2008

What was  Obama and the DNC doing when Faye historically made landfall on Florida  5 times and 11 people died in the floods? The DNC kept their party going , media ate it up , and Obama and Biden kept slinging the mud while citizens of the FORGOTTEN state of Florida suffered in silence. Such a double standard

August 31, 2008
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I seems that CNN always interview republicans that agree with the pick for vp and democrats that don't. I am a republican and think the pick is ridiculous. The comparison with Hilary Clinton is a slap in the face to women (which I am) that we only vote for someone because of gender. Also John Mccain has been saying the whole time that Obama doesn't have experiance and then he picks someone with less. And last of all I am a evangelical christian and the fact that evangelicals will like her is also ridiculous. Most of us value the family and the idea that this women should be the vice president and try to effectively raise as many young children as she has goes against our basic beliefs. This is the last straw for me and I know many other. I will not vote for John McCain!

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