Tuesday, September 09, 2008
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We received unprecedented video response to the Democratic and Republican National Conventions, from full video packages to simple speech responses done on Webcams. together, they helped tell the whole story about the elections. Full CNN video packages were created to stitch together all these stories and tell the full story of what was going on. At the Democratic convention in Denver, Colorado, we found that in the words of videodoc , there was truly "something for everyone." Everything from costumed people to protests to, of course, political speeches. And, maddogza 's ongoing submissions about an FAA computer glitch and finally making it to the convention formed a frame for the whole story. In St. Paul, Minnesota, the Republican convention was no less eventful with incredible political discussion and a few protests. We even had conservative icon Ben Stein step up to the mobile iReport kit (our roving kiosk), and we got up-close looks at the scene from bloggers and politicians. Citizen journalism group TheUptake followed the protests closely. When news happens near you, particularly a big event, we encourage you to turn on your camera and show us what is going on and how you feel about it. Show us the big picture on our little computer screens.

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September 12, 2008
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Sarah Palin ENOUGH!!!!! People come on now this woman lies like a rug and you talking about refusing to answer a question, did you see her with Charles Gibson last night? And all that her son going to Iraq because he wants to serve his country!!! crap the boy was facing a jail term and opted for military service insted lets stop this woman from faking it!! and the daughter is preganet by some black kid from Los Angeles!!! if you are going to lie to the american people about those who gives a damm things what in the hell are you going to do on something important that we do give a damm about you come in lying you go out super lying!!! Such as the bridge to nowhere lie that your still lying about!!! People take a good hard long look at this woman because she is as phony as a $3.00 bill!!!!!

September 12, 2008
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Obama is avoiding debates with McCain like the plague because he knows McCain would reveal what he conceals, and would put him in his place. Instead he chooses to have individual interviews he can control. He had an interview at Colombia University (an extreme left) last night, where Obama went to school!  How convenient. 

 

Obama thinks he can "change" these ruthless dictators' minds in other countries to stop war, when he can't even analyze his own preacher's mind that he's been seeing for 20 years! And when he did admit he didn't like some things his preacher was saying, Obama didn't stand up and talk to him about the issues.  What a leader, rest assured we'll be safe in his hands.

 

Even Biden admits Obama made the wrong VP choice, the obvious being Hillary. Through is self-centered ego, he now acknowledges he needs help, and befriends Bill Clinton as a new tactic and strategy, to gain Hillary hopefuls, making a deal with them, as the Clintons will do anything to get back in the White House.  It's a joke.

 

And a lesser known fact, 25% of Democrat Super Delegates are UNION members or WIVES of Union members as a cover-up. Obama has made deals with them because they fund him. So his priority is with the Unions, NOT the people. It's a fact. So many times in Obama's past, he voted "present" on issues the Unions didn't want him to vote for or against. That's why, because they control him.  McCain refuses to be controlled by the unions, he works for the people.

September 12, 2008
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Once you have been"OBAMBAFIED" you can not be "PALINIZED"

 

Do not try to "PALINIZE " me!

September 12, 2008
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You Dems crack me up!! You have the audacity to call Sara Palin on ethics?  Did you forget that your candidate is a thief, a liar a terrorist and an anti-American supporting raciest? Oh and lets not forget his little issue with drug addictions in the past.

 

It was not all that long ago, that your candidate got a free pass in the media and could do no wrong. No one knew who he was or what he was about and I submit you still don’t except his overused lines about how he is going to change America, he has made no substantial statements about how he intends to make all this change!!! and besides change is not necessarily always good change.  Oh ya, you forgot about that hu!

 

So you have some double standard its ok for Obama but not for Palin. You want to argue that he is change, please give me one landmark legislation your candidate has sponsored or even put his name on.  He misses more votes then he actually shows up to or he preserves his right to calim he is right by voting present but neither yes or no in the event somthing goes wrong wit hthe legislation he can calim he did not support it.  You are so blind to vote in a black man just to make up for your granddaddies mistakes that you would follow the anti-Christ even if he was to reveal himself.

 

All politicians have some form of corruption in their background. It pretty much comes with the territory.  I can see that Sara Palin has a few issues that need sorting out and I assure you that the attack media will get their crack at her sooner or later to get some answers to those questions. Your candidate is no better; he will say or do anything to get elected. He supports Black Nationalism which is akin to a white candidate boldly stating I support the KKK.  You think McCain would be this close neck and neck if he boldly stated I hate blacks and want to hang them all. No he’d be run out of politics faster then a snake bite would kill you.

 

At least Palin is closer to you and me in everyday life and knows what it is to be a simple American. She was a small town mayor just two years ago. Bidin and even McCain are all life long politicians. Obama is a very inexperienced candidate not ready to be a president. I think with some time and effort he might be able to lead but right now he is pretty unequipped to be a commander and chief. And unfortunately for him we are at war right now.  At least give Palin the same respect you gave your deadbeat candidate and let the issues come out and judge on substance and not party lines. She was a state politician, she was obviously involved in some stuff that can maybe be construed to look dishonest but we don’t have all the facts yet.  Obama is far from a perfect angel either. So judge on substance and quit you stereotypical whining about how she gets a free pass. I assure you that you would not pass the American test either.

 

I for one think she is closer to understanding my issues then any one of the politicians in WA will ever be and I intend to give her a chance to fix Bush’s failed policies. And one last thing McCain is not Bush even Obama voted 90% along the lines of Bush. They vote on such useless things every day that it is impossible to say Obama and Bush don’t have a ton in common as well.

September 12, 2008
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Let's be real about this election.It's not a lot of people that will say what's really going on because it will not be the proper thing to discuss, but It's a really big problem that we all try our best to ignore. Whites know in their heart how they feel, and Blacks don't want to bring it up cause they don't want whites to say they are pulling the race card.But I say as long as the card is in the deck, it's going to come in to play anyway. Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.I heard many comments from whites about Obama that were rude, and nothing was said, but he makes one comment that get's taken out of context and america is all over it. I really wonder when are we going to wake up to the truth, I know Obama is not going to win this election because the majority of this counrty don't want a black man running it. No one would admit it even a lot of blacks because We would rather fake like race is not a factor in this country. The truth is the the majority of this country need to humble themselves and choose who is right for this counrty and stop being so hateful. It's a shame that they would rather go through another four years of what went on the last eight years cause of the color of and mans skin. Shows just how far we've come america.

September 12, 2008
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This campaign season is very much the same old politic's, BORING, their both boring!

Quit crying about what the other person said and stick to the Issue's that matter to US, remember US the middle class.

When President Clinton ran for president he stuck to the same message, The Economy Stupid!

They both talk about change, one has very limited description of what he wants to achieve and the other one just talks about change and reform with a life history lesson of a heroic military career.

You two gentlemen don't focus on the issue's that matter to us the most, then my vote will go toward a third party candidate, maybe!

September 12, 2008
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I am so disappointed in both parties.  The attacks are distracting the voters from the real issues.  Let's use the air time to tell the public what we are proposing for change, not to talk about what each party is doing wrong.

 

As an independent, I am at a stand still.

I see the republicans using the same juvenile tactics that they have used for the past 20 years. I love the line that we need less goverment, well, look at the past 8 years compared to the Clinton years. Enough said already!!!!  Stop the lies and the attacks.

 

As a forty year old professional woman, please look at Palin.  She is in no way prepared to be the vice president.  Stop looking at gender and start looking at her resume!!!  She wants to take away your right to choose and has a record of accepting and asking for earmarks. The higest per capita in the U.S.!!!! More republican spin and more lies!!!!!

 

I want to know more about Joe Biden.  Where is his equal media coverage???!!!!!!

 

May God bless us all!!

Pray for those in the path of Ike!!!

Stop giving all of your airtime to Palin.  I am sick of it!!!

September 13, 2008
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What is the big deal with Palin not beeing ready to lead the country?

 

She can shoot a gun, and is most likely a better shot than the present vice president, and best of

all she'll make a great Republican  " Pin-Up girl ".

September 13, 2008
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You are my Republican of Republicans John McCain.

At some point I hope you will tell us of your more

cohesive plans for going forward economically or

any other way. And why, Senator McCain, do you

conjure up the the final gasping efforts of Ross Perot

in your ads, ie, "I am a faithful Annapolis cadet ...", etc.

We know that, but we need a president.

September 13, 2008
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BIG OBAMA NEWS:  American Nurses Association Endorses Barack Obama

 

Yesterday, the American Nurses Association officially endorsed Barack Obama for the 2008 Presidential Election. The ANA represents the interests of the nation's 2.9 million registered nurses.

 

    "As President, Barack Obama will bring real change to our health care system," said ANA

September 13, 2008
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I got this email today , could THIS be true?

Sep 10, 2008 09:16:00 AM,

 

 

 

My Holiday with McCain

 

It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential nomination in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).

 

It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close quarters with John McCain for almost a week since Turtle Island has a small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other intimately.

 

He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out of them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was "if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this yet?"  I soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on vacation to be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then became a regular part of each meal.  Out of politeness, none of the vacationers initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings continued day after day.

 

Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime entertainment.  He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine women had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just couldn't meet up to this standard.  He also made it a point that all of us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too high and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should eat less as she needed to lose weight.

 

McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her.

 

Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego, and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh .  I asked him about this one day and his response was shocking –"Oh, that was Cindy's idea – I didn't have anything to do with it.  She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.  You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona .  No, it wasn't my idea at all."

 

I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic of the active US bombing of Iraq at that time.  I was shocked when he said "if I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson".  Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war I had expected a more balanced point of view.  I commented on the tragic consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII – but no, he was not to be dissuaded.  He went on to say that if it was up to him he would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on Japan .  I rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that his experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have mellowed out his perspective but rather had made him more aggressive, and vengeful towards the world.

 

My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving Turtle Island .  Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because she needed to lose weight.  Amy burst into tears at this abusive comment.  I felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to McCain and told him to leave her alone.  He became very angry and abusive towards me, and said "don't you know who I am" and I looked him in the face and said "yes, you are the biggest asshole I have ever met" and headed back to my cabin.  I am happy to say that later that day when I arrived at lunch I was given a standing ovation by all the guests for having stood up to McCain's bullying.

 

Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this is the first time I am making this public.  I almost did so in 2000, when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination but it soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate and so I did not act then.  However, now that there is a very real possibility that McCain could be elected as our next president, I feel it is my duty as an American citizen to share this story. I can't imagine a more scary outcome for America than that this abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation.  I have observed him in intimate surroundings as he really is, not how the media portrays him to be.  If his attitudes toward women, and his treatment of his own family are even a small indicator of his real personality, then I shudder to think what will happen to America were he to be elected as our President.

 

 

Kathy Sreedhar, Director

UU Holdeen India Program

666 11th Street, NW, Suite 800

Washington , DC 20001

Telephone: 202.393.2255 x16

Fax: 202.393.5494

September 14, 2008
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What’s going on?

     I am trying to figure out what’s happening in this country.  I watched almost every news network, and I came to a conclusion that the democrats have no representation.  Also, no one dare criticize a right wing candidate.  I think Bill Clinton was Right.  The right wing has subdued the Main stream media.

     I have watched  Fox News and the rest of the media Network talked about Barack Obama relationship with his Pasteur and others.  They implied Barack Obama was somehow sharing the mistakes of his accountancies.

     We all witness what happened to main stream media when they tried to talk about:

          A) John McCain Relationship with the lady lobbyist in the senate

          B) Sarah Palin relationship with her Pasteur who said that Jews were being punished by God.

          C) Sarah Palin pregnant daughter

          D) Sarah Palin 20 year membership to the church that speaks in tongue.

     Main Stream media had to apologize for trying to educate the public about John McCain and Sarah Palin.  They might be in the Whitehouse; Why is the media shy away from all this.

     Another injustice to the democrats us the fact CNN has Lou Dobbs pretending to be independent while adopting right wing view (immigration), but no one counter that view: how could that balanced.  Lou Dobbs is forcing his view every single day, while other point of views are not represented.  At night there is Glenn Back, but no one counter his views.  There is no balance.

     We went to war because the media could not there second guessing Bush, yet they went after Clinton for his extramarital affair.  The media go after democrats with so much force and passion, but they cannot dare questioned Republican.  I think misleading people to war is worst extramarital affair.

     I hope the public will hold Main Stream media accountable for its failure to serve the nation.  This is a SAD time in the history of our nation.

     As long this injustice exist, there will never be democrat in the Whitehouse.    Democrats are strongly criticize while Republicans are given a Free Pass.

September 14, 2008
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Monkey see monkey do your blog is interesting I have been attempting to get my head around the media language I believe language has been hijacked and distorted the latest example is the word change however this is not a new strategy it is clever, cunning and may tip this election to McCain it seems the main stream media remain unwilling to speak of the gears and cogs that drive there reporting would you bite the hand that feeds you.

 

PS. This is a bit chessy be warned.

The price of freedom,

Who’s freedom?  Who gets this freedom?  Well you of course, but what is the currency and who pays?  The currency is freedom it’s self.  Maybe not your freedom but someone’s and the majority of the bill is paid by the repressed and impoverished of our world.  So lets be honest here when McCain and Bush say war is the price of freedom they mean that the repression of some gives others freedom.  I can understand this and even accept it as justifiable; assuming of course I wasn’t already free otherwise I’m buying something I don’t need, cant use, that may even interfere with the perfectly good freedom I’m already using and it’s not cheap.  The good news is if you’ve been sold a nice shiny new freedom that you never use you can take it back, someone else can give it a good home. So if you’re shopping for change don’t buy it from the same place you got your spear freedom and watch out for cheap knock offs!  You can tell by the label “made in experience” or “experience means change” the original label reads “change we can believe in” and includes a little bottle of freedom polish to keep America’s freedom nice and shiny.

September 14, 2008
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Senator McCain has forfeited his claim to put "country first" with his selection of Gov.Palin as his running mate and potential president, should anything happen to him.  Given all the positives about her as givens, attractive, vivacious, smart, etc., she remains a shallow and clueless woman in terms of the domestic and international issues of the day. She is scary because she appears to be without  sufficient self-awareness to comprehend what she might be getting herself and the rest of us into.I am not particularly delighted by being represented by a barracuda/pit bull when diplomacy, nuanced responses, depth of understanding of the problems that face us seem not to be where the Governor sits.  The image that flashed across my mind following her initial session with "Charlie" was the last scene from Dr. Strangelove.  Senator McCain, what have you done?

September 14, 2008
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Try asking some REAL questions that will change Everyone's Lives if something could ever be done before its to late. This ireport link explains it quite well.

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-85097

September 14, 2008
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A woman who ran off an eloped against her parents wishes, a woman who has a husband who barely works, has a daughter pregnant out of wedlock, has 5 children and aside from politics has not means of supporting them - Where I come from we call this kind of woman "Trailer Trash"..

September 14, 2008

I AM A DEM PATRIOTIC ALL AMERICAN VOTER; HOWEVER IN THIS ELECTION FOR THE FIST TIME IN MY LIFE WILL BE VOTING REPUBLICAN MCCAIN/PALIN! I WAS ALSO A HILLARY SUPPORTER AND DUE TO OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES ISLAMIC MUSLIM SEXIST EXTREMIST DOCTORIN OF AMERICA,JEW,WOMEN,BABY KILLERS HAS IN ALL GOOD CONCIENCE PROMPTED ME TO VOTE REP! AND OBAMA TRUE TO FORM IS DOING THE SAME TO PALIN! AMERICA WILL NOT STAND FOR IT! MAYBE IN KENYA BUT NOT AMERICA!!

September 14, 2008

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=66167

OBAMA AND HIS ISLAMIC MUSLIM SEXIST EXTRIMIST ASSOICIATIONS WATCH THE VIDEO!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6w4Dl8QcY0

WATCH OBAMAS DRUG USING BI-SEXUAL MISCONDUCT!

September 14, 2008
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What is going on in the minds of the people (women) who strongly supported Senator Hillary Clinton. Did they support her because they belived in her strength and her ability to lead this country OR did they simply support her because she was a women.

Some of those women are going over to Senator McCain is it because they now believe that the Rep. Party is the the party that will guide us to a better country or are they so simple minded that just because a women (Sara Palin) in now in the race that they have moved their supportto McCain/Palin.  I would hope to believe that their support for Senator Hillary Clinton was because of her ability not her gender. If it was just because she is a female then you are all doing a dis-service to the rest of the female population including your daughter's and sons.

Senator Hillary Clinton is a survior she will do great things for this country, for our families and children for years to come. No matter what your reasons were or are for changing your support to McCain/Palin I encourage you to search your hearts and minds for the real reasons your supported Senator Hillary Clinton in the first place. If you truly belived in her ability to lead our country then you must continue to support her by suporting the democratic party & Obama/Biden just as Senator Hillary Clinton is doing. If it was only because she was a women then support the "other" women. The inferior women, the one that can not hold a candle to  Sen. Hillary Clinton now or in the future.

I will support Senator Hillary Clinton all the way to the White House in the next election.

Bwallace

September 14, 2008
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I really don't care whether our candidates are female, black or old.  I want to hear what each of them plan to do about ALTERNATIVE fuels, globel warming and our dependance on foreign oil.  DRILL, DRILL, DRILL is NOT the answer.  More drilling will destroy our waters, kill off our animals and cause more CO2 emissions in the air.  Governor Palin wants to drill in Alaska for the soul purpose of bringing more money into her state, since all the residence get a subsidy from the oil profits.  Maybe she should try and create green jobs for them to earn more money rather than be on the dole.   Drilling in Alaska will not bring us any oil for 20 years and then not enough to sustain us or prevent us from being dependent on foreign oil.  I want to hear how "green" jobs can be created to help this economy and our environment.  Where have these people been these last 50 years.  In the next 50 years we could be extinct as a species if we don't start now to save our forests, animals, waters and air.  When President Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country",  he was so right.  We have lost that idea and have become a "me, me, me" society.  Just look at all the Hummers driving around.  They are just funding the terrorists.  All the money going to Saudi Arabia and the middle east is being funneled to the extremists.  Why has the middle east, especially Saudi Arabia, Dubai and other middle east countries become so modern and advanced.  DUH!  Well, anyway, the candidates have to start talking about what is really important to the people of this country and tell the truth.  And I certainly don't think a "soccer mom" is qualified to make the kind of decisions that will make my life more safe or solve the problems of the country for future generations.  BKephart

September 14, 2008
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September 14, 2008
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Wonder when Lou Dobbs will come out and declare his support for the republicans.  His Obama and democrat bashing is very discouraging.

September 14, 2008
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Here we are in this day and age of computers and the all mighty television, plus the news media. If all the speculation and observation that we jester on about the experience of Governor Palin along with television and the news media were in place for Abraham Lincoln, he might not have been elected! Thus History would have been changed DRASTICALLY ! You would have caused a great man to not have been elected. I’m not comparing the governor to Mr. Lincoln. I’m simply pointing out that Greatness is not always attached to Experience. Now you say OH! That was long ago and you cant compare the responsibility of a President today! Not true because the Civil War was one of the most challenging times for a President to endure with no experience. Mr. Lincoln came from a VERY SMALL TOWN. Now, just think if he had not been elected. When you vote remember one thing. A President that has a Vice President that has the ability to get things done and is backed by the American people will pull us through these hard times. And that is Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin!

Thank You,

Wayne Sheridan Robisheaux

September 15, 2008
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Post articles on Obama's campaign and post articles on McCains record .One interesting bit of information I just read was on McCains health record and how he is not being straight with the people about his envasive melonoma (cancer).Should this man become our next president there is more than a 50/50 chance he wouldn't finish his term and then the country will again get a president unfit to lead !

September 15, 2008
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Lou Dobbs,  Your hatred towards Obama is TOOOO Obvious.  I do not understand how you can pretend to be a neutral journalist and continue to lash out on Obama.  You either have a very low IQ and do not understand an intellectual in Obama or you are an outright RACIST.  You are a pathetic shame for CNN

September 15, 2008
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There is too much bull between McCain/Palin, really do they think americans are that stupid. Both McCain and Palin are both liars who will say anything to win. They’re not talking about the issues, just talking crap about Obama, and when they do it’s a bunch of bull. Obama now have to fight back about all the lies from McCain, and it puts a halt on what Obama really wants to talk about. As for who has the best idea for the economy, no hands down Obama wins. Really, Obama has the right idea. The economy is only as strong as the wealth of the American people, not the corporate big shots. Look the economy is like a tree, in order for the tree to stand strong its needs strong roots (American people). The roots provide life and growth for the tree, no roots no tree. If Obama wants to give less tax cuts to the wealthy the economy will still be strong, it’s like trimming the big hanging branches on the tree. And in turn the tree grows back even stronger.

September 16, 2008
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I guess sometimes we must find ourselves and realize it’s all been said better and we are more a question than an answer silence and stubbiness are words and actions speak louder.

 

To be or not to be, that is the question;

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

 

The rest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_be,_or_not_to_be

September 16, 2008
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To all Americans,

 

If you vote for McCain’s change you are indorsing 90% of the last 8 years of bush.

You are claiming the blood of more than 150,000 human beings on your own hands

And you will own a more than $5 trillion dollar used gas guzzling war.

You must only complain about your own lack of judgment and weak intellect if 10% change is all you get and if you whine don’t tell me because you brought it

You will be pitching a self described pit bull with lip stick against the world’s most difficult trigger happy leaders many nuclear armed.

You are giving a middle finger to the rest of the world on behalf of all Americans

And on behalf of the world Ill give it back. Because this election is not a vote for Obama or McCain this is a referendum on who and what you stand for America. McCain may be Georgian when it suits but these days we are all Americans but only some get to vote others just get to hope.

 

Jake Barrer

Westport, New Zealand

September 16, 2008
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Good Gravy what a mess!  My husband thinks the Reps. are throwing any chance to win on purpose for the Dems. to deal with the mess. ~Barbara

September 16, 2008
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Where are they hiding Obama's wife? Why is she not visiable to us? I need to know more about her.

September 16, 2008
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Normally I'm not one to blog my comments but after reading and hearing how the Republicans are trying to prevent the investigation of Palin's Troopergate from going forward by claiming it's bias against her by the Democrats, I've finally broke down and am expressing my utter most disgust with the Republicans.  As far as I'm concerned, they don't have the best interest of the American people in mind.  They're being selfish and only care about themselves.

 

First, according to the news I've read and heard, there are 10 Republicans in the investigation committee and 4 Democrats.  How can that be bias?  More Republicans than Democrats?  Hmmm... And this investigation was started before Palin was elected to be the VP candidate. 

 

Why are the Republicans all of a sudden so concern and doing all they can to stop this investigation?  Could it be there's truth to these accusations of abusive power by Palin? From my point of view and opinion, Palin has abused her powers and will continue to do so as well as McCain and the Republicans if elected.  However, it's not up to me to decide that.  It's up to the justice department to decide based on the facts, without obstruction to those facts, and I, as a true American abide by their final decision.

 

If Palin had been a democrat, you can be sure that the Republicans wouldn't be crying "foul" or "bias" in this investigation.  They wouldn't try to obstruct justice from proceeding as granted in the US Constitution.  No person is above the law yet, the Republican feel they are, especially when it doesn't favor them.  They would say that this investigation is fair and justified if Palin was a democrat. But she's not, she's a Republican so therefore, she's a good person, a goodie two shoes, and wouldn't do anything to break the law or abuse her powers as governor.  Bull!

 

Stop trying to destroy our Constitution and legal system in this investigation!  Be man (or woman) enough to face the music.  You screwed up, pay the consequences!  And this applies to both, Republicans or Democrats.  You do wrong, you pay the consequences. Don't delay this.  Stop being crybabies and spoiled brats!!  Just because it's not going "your way" doesn't justify your actions or give you the right to prevent justice from being served.

 

The Republicans have already screwed up our country in almost every way possible.  And not only domestically, but internationally.  Four more years of the same bull will finish destroying the country I love and am proud of.

 

I'm tired of hearing the "ultra-conversative" right wing morons talk about how they are the answer to America and anyone who thinks differently are wrong. Wake up America!  You've been blinded by the Bush administration and their cronies like Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain and Palin for 8 years and it's time we, the people, stop them from completely destroying our country.  It's our constitutional right! Vote them out of office!!

 

I compare the mentality of the conservative right wing Republicans the same as the Islamic fanatics.  Only difference is it's Christian fanatics who want everyone to live by their rules and discrediting, chastising, intimidating and whatever other means and methods they use for those who don't agree with them.  This is America where people have the right to live their lives (within the laws) as they choose, not as a small group of fanatics choose.  Get over yourselves Republicans, you're not God.

 

If, as a Republican, you truly believe in, are proud of and love the American way, you won't prevent justice from being served.  That's democracy!  NO ONE is above the law!! It's clearly stated in our Constitution!

 

By the way, I'm neither a Democrat or Republican.  I vote according to who I feel is the best candidate for the presidency regardless of what party they belong to.  I don't belong to the Democrat or Republican parties.  Don't want to.  I vote for the lesser of two evils.  In this election, it's definitely not the Republicans.  It hasn't been for 8 years.  I have voted Republican in the past, long, long time ago.

 

In my opinion, the Republicans have lost sight of what's best for ALL the people and have focus on what's best for their people and selfish needs.  That's not the American way.

September 17, 2008
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How is it that both parties can raise $40M - $60M dollars within a few months, but our government can't seem to raise real money to offset our deficit/national debt?? They keep borrowing, or collateral borrowing from other countries, putting us more in debt, and to more people.  Our government should raise money in the same manner that the candidates do if that's what brings unattached, no conditions funding, and start feeding good money into our economy.  U.S., please stop digging us deeper, it's actually part of the cause of our current economic situation!!

September 17, 2008
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Hello cyberspace! I've got an idea for how to solve the healthcare problem. Thought I'd post it and see how people react. Be as critical as you can and tell me your criticisms. That's how I improve things.

 

The Round Table Plan:

A proposed healthcare policy initiative

 

Objective: A healthcare policy initiative that has equal consideration for all parties involved in the healthcare industry, these being four:

1.     the investors in health insurance companies

2.     the health insurance companies themselves

3.     Healthcare providers (hospitals, doctors, etc.)

4.     Patients

 

SECTION I

This policy initiative shall be based on a strict financial model that answers the following considerations:

•     How much money does a given insurance company need to generate to cover costs, salaries and provide substantial dividends to the investors?

•     How much money does a given hospital need to generate to cover costs, salaries and other expenses?

•     How much can members of different income brackets afford for membership fees and needed medical cares and procedures? (This will be discussed in later detail in SECTION VI): 

SECTION II

The following statistical information will be required for successful implementation:

•     The average number of times a specific type of care is given in a specific time frame. (For example, 322 checkups performed in one calendar year or 276 bypass surgeries performed in the average quarter, etc).

•     Given the known financial needs of the insurance companies and hospitals, as well as the individual income brackets of HMO members (As illuminated in Section I), set pricing for all types of medical care will be established. (For example, $20.00 for a check up or $25,000 for a biopsy, etc.) These prices will be based on the financial requirements of the investors, healthcare companies and hospitals, as well as the yearly averages of how many times a given procedure can be expected to be performed. Equal consideration will also be given to the individual income brackets of the HMO members in determining these set prices and is discussed further in SECTION IV.

SECTION III

Healthcare membership fees will be based on the following:

•     The known financial requisites of the investors, the expected financial expenditures of insurance companies and hospitals

•     The specific income brackets of HMO members and non-members

•      The expected financial expenditure (EFE) of insurance companies to cover specific care costs. (For example, United Health can expect to spend 1.2 million dollars on checkups this year at a set and established price of $20.00 per checkup).

 

 

 

SECTION IV

Given the known financial needs of investors, insurance companies and hospitals, set prices for healthcare membership fees and specific types of care will be established. (For example, $50.00 a month for membership, $20.00 for checkups, $120.00 for X-rays, etc.)  Thus, every type of care (whether surgery, a checkup, specific types of emergency care, etc.) has a set price. In addition, yearly averages for how many times a specific type of care is performed will be known. This will enable insurance companies and hospitals to establish mutually beneficial standard prices for any given type of care, enabling insurance companies to meet their financial obligations and hospitals to meet theirs.

THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT

HMO members and patients unable to meet monthly membership fees can apply for government healthcare assistance.

September 17, 2008
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If the government is bailing everyone out, why can't they owen their own oil wells and get their selves out of debt by investing in them selves.

September 17, 2008
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checkout www.pollabear.org for updated information on what is going on in Southeast Texas after Hurricane Ike. POD locations, Food Stamp locations, FEMA locations etc..

September 17, 2008
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well i am not from america. i live in ja and i watch the elections everyday and trust me what i m seein isnt fair at all to Obama. John McCain is not being bashed as how Obama is being bashed. the journalism and views shared obviously is for Mccain for most of the part. i hardly hear what McCain is doing wrong. if it was Obama lying like McCain it would've been the end of his campaign for president but america cant seem to just come out and say i don't want a black man ruling my country. i dont think no where is it being fair on Obama. if it was McCain inspiring america as how Obama is doing it it wouldn't be questioned. this election isnt about experience or anything like that it is about race and stupidity. John McCain and the republicans are bad for america and if ther cant see in my country we would say "dog eat your supper." Lou Dobbs is a republican just as how Glen Beck is they are bad for CNNs journalism and so everything is topped in John McCains favour but Obama is gonna prevail; i believe it so much.

September 17, 2008
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it's me again the guy from Jamaica. if america can't see that John McCain is doing anything he can to win the they are racist and all that. not to say that Obama is perfect he is far from that be  he is perfect for the job of being america's next president. i saw the other that woman from the show "The View" how she discriminated and for a woman she showed how unintellectual she was and no 1 did anything about that. as a matter of fact no one did anything to her by suspending her or anything. but if soem1 said anything bad about McCain's wife it would've been so publicized that the person who did it would've been chatised and it wouldn't be the end of the story no 1 did anything much about it. even this pick of McCain, Sarah Palin what she did and her daughter and all that if this was Michelle Obama in her shoes it would've been the end of Obama. Michelle Obama, being black would've been chatized and talked about so much that it would've sunk her and her husband campaign, but no Sarah Palin is glorified and seen as the right person for the job of vice president. McCain and the republicans stifles my dream of wanting to visit america but if they are still in charge i don't wanan come there anymore cause republicans and every1 that follows them are stupid and blind and i think the republican is a cult that kills and destroys the people of any society. this is coming from a view of a jamaican who lives in jamaica and is fascinated with america but to the way things are goin gfor the last 8 yrs i want nothin gto do with america. if i am going to be chatized for freedom of speech then i understand.

 

Martin Luther King "I have a Dream Speech" is just word of mouth for some people. soemtimes to the rate of racism in america, y celebrate the man and his life and all that and yet still other races are marginalized. come on america open up your eyes the world is wacthing and from where i sit and know the world isnt behind McCain and the republicans but 100% behind Obama; white black, pink yellow whatever the colour of the race outside america they support Obama

 

peace out

September 17, 2008
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I cant believe the comments from RELAMERICAN 5 days ago,far hard right,you need to watch some other news stations besides fox,lets see!Sen.McCain cheated on his first wife more than once till he met his money mommy in Hawaii then he gave his wife of 12 years the boot,and drugs Cindy McCain was hooked on prescription drugs and got caught stealing from one of her own charities.I dont mean to throw rocks, none of us are perfect just want some of the off the wall right wingers to get there facts straight.Palin? one heart beat away from a 72 year old heart,oh my goodness that scares me to death .Shes a real story teller and she aint all that.Lets face it this( relamerican ) has a problem with a black man being our President,better get over it.This is from a retired white lady whos sick and tired of the rich getting richer and the middle class being left behind.Bush had 8 years, & 6 years in both houses and we can all see where hes got us.GOD help whoever wins.

September 17, 2008
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Campbell Brown,Linn Rothschild,give us all a BREAK,People like me (middle class)could care less about Linn Rothschild she has NO CLUE what our lives are like,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is what she knows,totally has no idea,she dont like black and is afarid of losing a few of those bucks in TAXES.PLEASE dont waste the air time.

September 17, 2008
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I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

>

>If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."

>If you grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, it's a quintessential American story.

>>

>If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic secret Muslim.

>If you name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

>>

>If you graduate from Harvard law School you are unstable.

>If you attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

>>

>If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,  spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of  13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

>If your total resume is: local weather girl,  4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

>>

>If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

>If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife after a serious car accident and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

>>

>If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

>If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

>>

>If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's values.

>>

>If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude",  with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

>>

>OK, much clearer now.

September 17, 2008
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Mr. Maverick, John McCain, expert on bucking his own party. He did it so well, wow, look where it got us???

September 18, 2008
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America suffers of the abused spouse syndrome. It is a wellknown fact that a lot of people choose to stay in a relationship that is harmfull, just because they are too fearfull to start fresh.

I guess those that still stay behind the republican party, still hope that their abusive relationship will turn into a beautiful butterfly.  It's your right to keep believing.

Still, understand that what is happening now is your intervention. You have a choice now. You are offerd a new beginning, a opportunity to a fresh start. It is your decision if you continue to allow yourself to be abused by the republican party, or if you choose to start fresh with obama.

Everything that we do has it's own reward or punishment.

We all have to be very aware of what we really want. Do we want to evolve or stay in a abusive relationship.

September 18, 2008
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Call me selfish if you will, but I dont care.  I am retired and getting $30,000 a year and with Obama's plan, it will put another $300 in my pocket to spend each month.  My Grandkids will get a $4,000 tax credit which enable them to continue college.  My son will have health insurance, and I will get a deduction on my health premiums.  McCain is going to lower taxes on the rich and give Middle America absolutely nothing.  Watch CNN's fact finding segment, and McCain has lied about Obama in several ads.  This is not an honorable man and cannot be trusted.  He hasn't a clue on how Middle America lives and doesn't really care. Palin doesn't have any foreign policy experience and she may be running the country if something should happen to McCain.  What a scarey thought. Wake up people. Obama is the only way to go!!

September 18, 2008
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YES YOU CAN,  CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN .  I GIVE WHY NOT QUIT MY JOB GO RIGHT DOWN TO THE WELFARE OFFICE  WHY? because OBAMA has control of my needs  YES HE DOES.  I want that free  education and health care I want the free food and heat.  Oh i want OBAMA to hang the corporations and whip them to death because I deserve the equal treatment in this country.  I don"t have to work for it OBAMA will give it to me  YES HE CAN.  My boss should be taxed a lot more money if fact he should lay me off so and give my salary to OBAMA and i will never work again  YES I CAN free to me  on the backs of others what a deal that is.  Heck don't worry  OBAMA is looking out for me i do not have to do a thing he has my back.  Well my back has just once again given large private companies a free pass and I know my babies will bear those scars.  Bush as stated put us  4 trillion more in debt can you tell me who did the other 6 trillion.  Oh do not forget OBAMA LOVES his friends at fannie and freddie YES WE CAN have a house you cant afford YES WE CAN because OBAMA HAS MY BACK awaiting for me if i elect him  everything but my self-worth is supplied by him. Not a bad trade off selling your soul. 2 and 1/2 trillion dollars a year gives each american young and old 12,000 dollars pretty expensive government we have. now 10 trillion in debt gives us each 30 thousand  wow we are  above rich  OOPS i mean our government that you will elect .  so if it is money that decides your vote VOTE OBAMA  YES YOU CAN money is all he needs and taxes will supply it. Wait tax cuts for 95 percent of americans and OBAMA SO SMART only 5 percent can handle the needs of everyone else.  seems we are of a small minded people .  Where is the self worth within yourself.  A give me kind of county is a bad idea.

September 18, 2008

THE REAL Father of Bristol Palin's baby speaks

 

http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A

 

 

Video Description:

 

Heart filled speech.... Speaks to Bristol Palin (daughter of Sarah Palin - female vice presidential nominee for the republican ticket) about their sexual relationship and future child.

September 18, 2008
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go obama,  please win  I am liking the hole freebee  attitude of yours GIVE ME MY LIFE LIBERTY  HEALTH EDUCATION FREE FOOD GAS  HEAT INSURANCE.  ILL BUY THAT WHIP FOR YOU GO TO THE TOP 5 PERCENT AND IM SURE THE BOTTOM 95 YOU WILL FIND A WAY I AM A NOBODY I CANT DO NOTHING MY NEIGHBOR MUST PAY MY WAY  GOGOGOGO  YES YOU CAN MAKE MY LIFE FREE PLEASE CHANGE WE NEED A NONE SELF WORTH SOCIETY

September 18, 2008
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hello America, it's me again the guy from jamaica. the elections there has me buzzing i am tuned in everydaya dn trust me the more i watch everyday and what John McCain has to offer to America and the world is more of the same things i see coming from your current president George Bush. that man has made the world that we live in a place or terror. to tell the real truth he speaks about terrorism when he is the one terrorizing the world with his policies that says war first then country after. the republicans all love to just war. wars that doesn't have a logical philosophy behind their fightings. y did Bush and the republicans go to war with Iraq that has nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. they just wanted to go there to finish what his father started in the gulf war. Saddam Hussein as bad he was never did anything to America or president Bush. it was Bin Laden and i hear nothing much about the search for him all i hear about is Iraq, Iraq, Iraq and u see in my country there is a slogan that says "stop the crime before they stop us." I'm saying to George Bush if u don't stop the crime the terrorist will stop us but if u do the terrorist will not. i am not for terrorism they are to be punished and all for their deeds but as i said because of this nonsensical war in Iraq the world is in the state that it is in now or this is just 1 of the reasons y terrorist hates us and i wanna live free in a free world free of terrorism but u see based on what i see Barack Obama is the only hope that America has to strengthen and regain the trust of the world and even the trust of the people and citizen of America. Obama for president "Yes we Can," and "Yes he Can."

September 18, 2008
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What i don't understand is why is everybody so concerned with Sarah Palin's personal life. Her children's mistakes are not 100% her fault. Being a mother myself i know that a parent can supply their children with as much information to help their children make the right decisions but ultimately it is up to them. Also, Sarah Palin might not have much experiance with major political rolls but neither does Obama so why is it that democrates are jumping on her for not having experiance when their own canidate has none himself. Where did this man come from no where just as much as Palin.

September 18, 2008
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rachcharles1 u are crazy "mad sick out of your head." u are a white washed republican and u have been bamboozled and zombified by them that even when they are making life miserable for u and your country u cant see thru your eyes are filled with republican glaucoma that u and the other republicans and and people who support John McCain and Sarah Palin cant see the truth.

September 18, 2008
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i believe in a free  world and a world that that is for every man and that every man is equal and every man bleeds the same blood and if u peel off the skin of every man u get the same organs and same red blood and all we are all the same though we have different skin pigmentation we deserve the same fair chance at every thing in life. somethings aren't reserved for some men while some for the other. all men has the same amount of ability and chance if he puts his mind into achieving so Obama is ust like any man whose dreams and desire to be president of a country can be achieved and i have a strong gut feeling this is his his time and moment for America.

September 18, 2008
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I worked for a major telecommunications corporation in Charleston, WV.  My experience at this job was the most horrifying experience of my life.Our union, CWA, is a strong union; but, they are starting to envolve themselves with the so called "Washington Politics".  It's sad to see, hundreds of jobs being lost in our community because the employees are the last concern when it comes to taking care of business.  The employees in my work place were so stressed, depressed and aggrivated with the process of hiring, firing and the daily working environment that over half of the UNIONIZED employees were/are taking anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications to survive on a daily basis.  THIS IS SAD!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Management is not part of the UNION and so they are promoted with the "GOOD OLE BOY"  system - WHO U KNOW - NOT - WHAT YOU KNOW!!!!  If you're a member of management and do not play the game, then you are harrassed just as an employee would be!!!

Who is going to stand up for the individuals that believe in us as EMPLOYEES and not for the INDIVIDUALS that make us BITTER and FULL OF HATE??? We need a Change in West Virginia as well as the UNITED STATES!

Governor Manchin is doing his part and now we need the people to stand up and say, "IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE!"

 

Get out and vote for Senator Obama if you want to restore PEACE, in our working environments, in our state and in our COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Concerned about the elderly, the working class, our children (our future) and PEACE OF MIND,

Stephen Carnes, PROUD DEMOCRAT

September 18, 2008
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In downtown Youngstown, Ohio, there is controlled chaos right now. In a matter of minutes, there will be a rally for would-be Vice-President, Joe Biden. I don't personally attend these sorts of things, being not overly comfortable with the inevitible crush of people and the potential for unrest, plus being somewhat frail of health these days. However, my husband works downtown, on Federal Plaza. Thus I had a glimpse of the preparations this afternoon. Secret Service folks were doing what Secret Service folks do, securing the area. Tents were up, people were milling about, roads were closed. No biggie, not something that really affects me. However, sitting here at home this afternoon, preparing to watch the news, I got a call from my husband. Apparently, due to this rally, his co-workers whose shifts are over are not allowed to go home. Joe Biden is downstairs, from what we gather, and everyone is being sent back up to wait. They are being told they may not even look out the window at the goings on because they will be perceived as a threat if they do.

 

Now I'm not an idiot, I understand the need for security. Certainly I have no wish for anyone to be shot or harmed, Biden or otherwise. However, when did their safety trump our freedom? I can understand blocking off people's access to certain areas, for the protection of the politician in question, but not the ability of average people to even go home after a long day at work!! Disrupting people's lives, keeping them essential prisoners (even if it's only for a matter of hours) should not be acceptable in the "Home of the Free". Benjamin Franklin said "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

 

It may seem like a small, trivial matter to some, but I say this is just one more example of our rights being trampled.

 

Worse yet, they are being trampled by a campaign stumping for "change".

 

Will America stand up and take notice before all her rights have been stolen, one little bit at a time? Our local TV station didn't seem at all interested...

 

As an addendum, I am neither for nor against Obama/Biden.  I am, as yet, undecided.  My closing comment above is directed at the state of our country with this rally as just one more example.

September 18, 2008
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A dear friend for many years said something to me the other day & I was appalled,she said (I just cant vote for a black man)this is 2008,come on people get over it lets stop the civil war.I guess there are alot of folks out there that cant remember the old saying DIVIDED WE FALL,looks like were not far from that.Change is hard for all of us,its easier to just shut your eyes & let the chips fall where they may.were not lazy,selfish,self centered,no good,ask for everything free people (WERE AMERICANS LETS STAND UP FOR A CHANGE)I NEVER VOTED FOR BUSH TO START WITH look what hes done to us & this country,Ive seen war & what it can do,born in 48 i spent most of my younger years WATCHING IT,it ruined alot of young mens lives & there families,I had 2 sons in the marines during Persian gulf.We have lost over 4000 of our best young men & women.And Iran has a surplus of 79 billion dollars & its cost all of us 3 trillion dollars!thats not a good reason for Bush to take us there to finish what the former president Bush his daddie didnt do.WERE ALL GOING TO SUFFER FOR A FEW, NO MATTER WHAT,LETS MAKE OUR CHANGE AT THE VOTERS BOOTH AND STAND UP AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE RICH FEW.ILL VOTE OBAMA & BIDEN.

September 18, 2008
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You know I find it funny when people compare Palin's lack of experience with Obama's.  We need to keep in mind, that the demoratic process took place with Obama. More than 18 million people voted for him in the primaries and feel he is qualified to be the next commander and chief.  Palin, on the otherhand was picked at the sole discretion of one person (McCain) for political gain. 

 

I think, there in lies the difference

September 19, 2008
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It seems lipstick will no longer hide the sore maybe we need some obalma balm or let McCain pick the Americas scabs USA=USB let’s not get a USC

You know I live in a world where there's a thing called the past and another called the future although it's fascinating to watch CNN struggle to maintain a naiveté of the past while sliding merrily down McCain's greasy slope towards fox news land In the end whether its bush's 911 or bush's WMD's CNN fails to remind us of recent history within any news context so I ask for the history please. I'm not a conspiracy theorist bin laden was responsible for 911 I detest fox news but I do remember yesterday maybe CNN should do the same. I complain because I care. I hate to be negative BUT! The pay peanuts get monkeys theory is surly debunked it seems a less catchy phrase is more appropriate “you pay monkeys and get pre chewed peanuts” I never brought a ticket for the zoo but here I am. Anderson yes CNN is still the best lets keep it that way.

 

Jake Barrer       

Westport NZ

September 19, 2008
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1 obama=change McCain=same America=imagex1

10 print” Brick head brick head ouch brick head brick head ouch dam Brick head ouch. Hmm brick head ouch”

20 if obama=change then gosub 42 return 10

25 if obama=change move America 100, 100, 10

 

30 if McCain=same then goto 10

42 print “thank you America” return 25

43 stop

see it's simple but will it work?

September 19, 2008
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At Risk preaching to the choir,

My program fails because America must right many wrongs and write the missing lines in what will hopefully become a milestone program for the world and Americas future. My post is done.

September 19, 2008
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There is a new YouTube video of a young black man who claims to be the real father of Bristol Palin's unborn child. It appears that he is being shut out of the child's life by the Palin family. Here's the link:

 

 

http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A

September 20, 2008
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sheesh,  people  i have no self worth anymore it is in my governments hands.  When can i get the change promised

WHERE IS MY FREE FOOD GAS HEALTH SHELTER. you gonna make me wait>  OBAMA your promise of a free society free everything

OOPS   by the way  CAN YOU TELL ME WHO IS PAYING FOR IT

September 20, 2008
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The events of this week have been devastating to many middle class Americans.  The downfall of our economy is extremely sad.  When looking back on history, it's easy to see the republicans have always been responsible for major financial downfalls.  Herbert Hoover, a republican president, was responsible for the great depression #1.  Now we have George W. Bush in the midst of a near great depression #2.  The resolution offered will cost all American citizens, but most significantly the middle class. 

 

Wake up America, vote for Obama if you want to balance our economy and bring back the American Way for the middle class!  Don't vote for a "hero" from days gone by, vote for the future of change!!!!

September 21, 2008
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Save Investment & Insurance Banks with $0 cost to taxpayers!

 

Credit Default Swaps (CDS) are the traded derivatives that are causing banks to consolidate cash, and are choking the system.  Simply freeze all CDSs that are purely speculative in nature! Since we have already suspended stock-shorting--this is simply a related extension of the same action, that would relieve pressure on otherwise profitable companies, and free up billions in nominal capital for covering the CDSs that hedge a legitimate credit obligation. 

 

If this area were re-visited and regulated, it would re-shape the way Wall Street does business, and change the fundamentals going forward.  If I cannot buy insurance against a home I have no interest in down the street from catching fire, I should also be prevented from openly betting that a company defaults from the sidelines, hoping to drive their stock value down, causing their required collateral to underwrite their CDS obligations to increase, and ultimately causing them to fail--this is a 'Catch 22' that has put us in the situation that the Fed & Treasury are trying to band-aid at the moment.

 

Making the speculators 'eat their own losses' on their CDS short positions, at least in the short term, does several positive things:  1)Limits market distrust and uncertainty to only those investments that have no underlying basis.  2)Frees up funds to collateralize CDSs that have a basis.  3)Allows "the market to work the problem out on it's own"--effectively forcing those holding speculative CDS's to negotiate their own settlements 4)Removing taxpayer burden of "bailing out" speculators holding this type of CDS  5)Causes the market to devalue and raise the risk on this type of speculation, if they realize this will not be rescued by taxpayers. 6) Allows CDS that are hedging sub-prime mortgage funds to continue to work themselves out, after re-weighing risk, premiums, and collateralization.

 

And most importantly: A solution that is seen as putting the onus back on the speculators would also finish this debate about who could best manage the US economyit would be seen as not allowing GOP to rescue fat cats on wall streetinstead putting the risk where it belongs!  

 

We're talking tens of trillions of dollars worth of these derivatives out there59 trillion by some estimatesnearly three times the current value of the stock market.  There are only $13 trillion worth of mortgagestotalwith a fraction of that being sub-prime.  Far too much of this is purely speculative, insured by AIG, causing them to now need billions in collateral to underwrite speculation. 

 

These banks, insurance companies and investment firms are otherwise very profitable--they just require far too much capital to be held as collateral because of THESE derivatives.  Hopefully, taxpayers won't have to underwrite speculation, and regulators will get back in the game and begin to address this, in spite of the GOP's desire to play "laissez-faire" to these huge companies when markets are good, and rescue when things change!

September 21, 2008
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In the news about how the government is going to bail out the financial companies debt so the econmy would not collapse.

 

However, I have not heard anything about what the CEO's, Directors, and Boards are going to give for this bailout. I say we take all their stock and stock options of all of them if they give the taxpayer their debts. The current proposal gives all the benefit to the CEO's, directors, and boards for all their bad decisions. Where is the accountabilty.

September 22, 2008
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My comments to this whole situation of bailing out is letting the CEOs of these large companies stay silent and Im sure will walk away with not having to worry  or answer to the dilema we are in and not accept their responsibilities that got us here today, and our Treasury dept that sat idly by sitting on their porches and did nothing until it was to late, now its all in the hands of the American worker to try and solve their lack of interest in the jobs that they are so highly compensated for, I'm sure they are not losing any sleep over it but there is many  a man and woman home and family providers that sure are tossing and turning to make up for them.

Cricket09

September 22, 2008
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For Immediate Release:

 

Reggae Icon Cocoa Tea Releases Follow Up To International Hit, “Barack Obama”, Launches Exclusive New Website For Digital Downloads

 

 

(Chicago, IL) – Zojak World Wide is pleased to announce that just a few months after recording the international hit, “Barack Obama”, Jamaican roots reggae star Cocoa Tea is in the spotlight again with his follow up single, “Yes We Can”.  “Barak Obama”, which has been circulating for months on the radio, among reggae fans young and old as well as casual music fans around the globe, is praised for its participatory message and catchy melody.  “Yes We Can” is Cocoa Tea’s brand new, non-partisan follow up calling for unity between people of all political affiliations, races and classes.  In cooperation with Zojak Worldwide, the leader in digital distribution, Cocoa Tea is making both tracks available for sale exclusively via the new website, www.cocoateabarackobama.com. 

 

“Yes We Can” is Cocoa Tea’s response to “Barak Obama”.  A rootsy, non-partisan appeal for all classes, colors, races and creeds to come together, “Yes We Can” is a roadmap for people to unite across party lines, racial divide and international boundaries, despite personal differences.

 

Cocoa Tea sings, “Yes we can/Don’t let them tell us that we can’t… Democrats and Republicans, let me hear you say yes we can, yes we can…” 

 

Cocoa Tea says “Barack Obama” and “Yes We Can” are significant in part because they reflect a remarkable mix of popular culture and international citizenship.  When asked why anyone should be interested in what a Jamaican reggae artist has to say about American or international politics, Cocoa Tea answers,

 

“Because of the message.  It says things about decisions being made in Washington, DC which affect people of the whole world.  We know the USA is the greatest superpower so somewhere along the line we know what happens in Washington, DC will affect the world.”

 

"This is not about class nor color, race nor creed," Cocoa Tea sings on “Barak Obama”.  "Make no mistake it's about the changes all the people them need." 

 

The song “Barack Obama” has struck a chord around the world and created a new generation of Cocoa Tea admirers while television appearances on CNN and FOX News as well as interviews with the BBC, the New York Times and New York Post have cemented Cocoa Tea’s place in international popular culture.  “I been to Europe, Caribbean and America,” says Cocoa Tea.  “The response has been the same - overwhelming.  People who don’t like Barack Obama the candidate like the tune.  Is a tune people love.  I was surprised because in Europe people responded like it was a European tune.”

 

Both “Yes We Can” and “Barak Obama” will be featured on the upcoming Cocoa Tea album release from Zojak World Wide, scheduled for release on November 4, 2008, the same day as the US presidential election.

 

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September 23, 2008
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Life Forms the Presidential Election Patriotism or Hatetriotism

 

There has to be life forms on other planets of higher intelligence just laughing and pondering, how in the universe did those humans survive thus far...watching this thing called the Presidential Election taking place on earth in a place called the United States...it appears it's extremely divided...let's send some help...hurry-up Scotty and in the meantime...I hope the civilized and intelligent humans vote Obama-Biden.

 

Just a quick briefing Scotty: There are blue and red states on the map of this landing. The Current Leader is a member of a red state; he never truly was elected as the human’s leader, both Presidential Elections were high-jacked. Governor Bush remains in the White House for almost eight years.

 

The current leader and his robots-otherwise known as cronies have failed the country, lead them to war with lies; the lists is endless, Scotty, historical debt, joblessness, homelessness, no health care for many humans, the economy is tanking, their schools are failing, and their planet is warming-melting, just melting-global warming; they have the science to prove such and the red people don't want to acknowledge the country-planet is on the eve of complete dystruction.

 

Scotty-the red want to win this election and they'll do anything to win; they engage in these war-games called politics, both reds and blues-ignoring the will, needs and wants of the people. The current Leader’s friend too is a member of a red state, John McCain; it appears he’s attached to the current leader’s hip. But wait Scotty, the current leader has the lowest historical rating amongst humans on the blue and red parts of the map. Yet many want to vote again for the failed, disastrous policies and leadership…it’s making millions of humans…red and blue in the face.

 

It appears according to our technology and science these humans all cut and bleed the same way, yes they have different anatomical parts, some are male, and some female, and some have different pigments to their skin. Some humans judge their fellow human beings by the way they look and their anatomical parts…these would be the humans who are light years away from being enlightened…it’s called the ‘isms’ of planet earth…sexism, racism, etc. Scotty as part of your mission you need to convince these humans if they don’t question and stop the ‘isms’ they’ll self-destruct. Convince these humans that it’s not Patriotism which the reds seem to claim ownership off but it’s ‘Hatetriotism’ which will cause this land to suffer a total melt down. 

 

On the blue map there is a phenomenal leader by the name of Obama he is of darker pigment and never before has this land elected a human of darker pigment for President; he won the blue’s Presidential Primary…he appealed to millions of the masses because of his qualifications and extraordinary character. Obama’s message of change and hope brought a level of renewed interest to the people of this land, inspiring millions…but scared others, especially many of the red and some blue. They examine him like an alien; first, attempting to paint too black, not black enough, paint him green-elitist but his message and ‘high road’ campaign prevailed…the humans are in search of change they can believe in, solutions and hope and Obama provides it.

 

The red and some blue tried and tried to dismiss his message of hope and change as if hope wasn’t an essential part of a civilization. They use faith, under the guise of religion in an attempt to destroy this man’s run for leadership. They speak and pray to their great God, yet some unyieldingly failing to recognize all humans are God’s children. These humans even go to war in their God’s name, killing and maiming hundreds of thousands; this time it’s for liquid gold-the war in Iraq. Yes, there are times to defend a nation; but the humans are paying billions to fight an unfounded war in Iraq.

 

They claim to want peace while they’re blowing others to pieces. They won’t abort a failed mission of war killing thousands of established of lives…but to abort a fetus in some judgment is a sin even in cases of rape and incest-hypocritical Scotty.

 

Now the red’s elected primary leader at a loss; what in the world could he do to trump the blue? He ran on his military service record and 30 years as a Washington insider…the same experience which has very much lost the appeal for millions of the human masses.

 

The red contender for the # 1 leadership position decided; I know, I’ll pick a woman for a VP running mate and have faith…whatever that means to the red…that the humans would find her appealing base on her anatomical parts/gender…even though there were other more qualified females within his red reach. What the heck, McCain thought if I choose an unqualified person for the second most powerful position in the land…I’ll exploit her and divert attention from the important issues…I’ll appeal to the humans who want a woman on the ticket to win votes. Scotty, he underestimated and profoundly insulted the sensibilities of not just women humans but males too.  .

 

Scotty-you over all mission is to convince those humans no one has a monopoly on Patriotism; humans must stop and question their ignorance and their ‘Hatetriotism’.

 

Good Luck Scotty, I HOPE you can accomplish this much more quickly than the surge in Iraq…

 

Oh and Scotty, while you down there please confiscate those ‘rose colored lenses’ Palin the red-VP pick and her supporters view the world through…cause from up here it’s looks very distorted and twisted.

 

Once in a Blue Moon a candidate comes along with the qualifications, character, intellect, tenacity, and leadership skills to guide and lift up a great nation-Obama, Scotty.

 

Peace to all, question your ignorance and tolerance. Universe-One-Song, let’s sing it together…stop the ‘Hatetriotism’.

September 23, 2008
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I for one am tired of hearing and seeing Obama and McCain.  Do any americans even know that there is a Third person running?  What I would like to know is why they will NOT let Nader into the debate? What kind of democracy is this? Would'nt you as an american like to hear ALL sides? I know I do..  I think of the republicans and democrats as the " bloods and crips" fighting over there turf and gaining power..  What we need is a president who's not just telling us what we want to hear, but is going to do what he says...  All I have seen from McCain and Obama is the same ol" same ol' we hear every election... Bush told you people the same bull and you all believed it.. Look where we are now, Im sorry but if you want "real change" and want to "shake things up" then you need to vote for Nader..... We are never going to get "change" if we keep voting for the same type of people..  Think out of the box for once and really look at what Nader can offer... ooh but wait, they wont let him debate......... HHHHMMM  I wonder why? 

 

   As for this whole bail out thing .... yeah Great idea!!  Just print more money and bail out the companys and the people who were making millions.. forget about all the americans who really need help...  WAKE UP america!!!!!!!!!  why not bail out the people who are losing thier homes and let the money trikle "UP" the chain for once, The big companys will still get their money and the americans who need it will be able to keep there homes, If they did that and then allowed the people who were bailed out, to pay that money back over the period of thier 25 or 30 year loan, money would trikle back to the lenders and thousands of americans would not be homeless..  So my fellow Americans... do you still want "change"?  We will get it if Obama or McCain get elected, But it will not be for the better.. This is the Downfall of our country and 90% of americans are blind to the fact, open your eyes, do your research, and educate yourself on what OUR goverment has in store for us, it's not a pretty picture...

September 23, 2008
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IN STORE FOR US,

 

FEDS ARE OUT OF MONEY LONG TIME AGO, THE TRICKLE EFFECT NO MONEY TO THE STATE GOVERNMENTS, THEN NONE TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THUS NONE FOR YOU.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT THATS OK,ITS BEEN THE POLICIES OF A GIVE ME KINDA OF NATION AND SOCIAL SECURITIES MEDICAL SECURITIES FINANCIAL SECURITIES HAVE BEEN THE ROUTE OF ALL THIS EVIL WE HAVE FACED.

 

THE SMART WITTED PEOPLE WHO VOTE VOTE FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT FOR OTHERS. IF YOUR WANT SELF RELIANCE YOU NEED NOT ANY POLITICIAN WHO WILL  OVER FILL YOUR LIVES ON THE BACKS OF OTHERS.

September 23, 2008
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As a keen political observer, and being a canuck beside, I find the US system and politics great to watch. I only have one comment to make, after watching sarah Palin, and comparing her to current VP Cheney........I guess she would not have only winged her lawyer would she?....luck to all

art

September 24, 2008
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When it comes to politics, is it a sense of party loyalty, or is voting for the right person. This election has all of the makings to be a flashback of 1976, when Jimmy Carter was elected, and we know how that turned out. Just like in 1976, who ever wins the presidency, will inherit one big mess. Is there really one candidate that can fix the economy.....no. The economy fluxates, it has it's ups and downs, but eventually it works itself out. Many people think FDR, pulled America out of the Great Depression, which is absurd, WWII, pulled America out the Great Depression. I am not a rich person, I am just a college student, and the price of gas and food, is outrageous, for me, just like it is for most Americans. The fact is that we have to get use to these prices, because they are here to stay. Now, about all of the work that is leaving the states and going overseas. Labor goes where labor is cheap and that is not here. Young people should realize this and want to pursue a higher education. The health care system is in ruins and always as been for middle class Americans, because if your poor you get a medicade card and its free and if your rich, price is not an option. It is the middle class, that barely make enough money, not to be called poor that suffers. Either their jobs don't provide health insurance, or they cannot afford it. As for the War on Terror, we must stay the course and not surrender. I hate to put down any candidate, but Obama, I mean what is the mans real policy. He loves to say the word "Change", but what is he going to change. At least with Mccain, a person knows what they will be receiving. I don't believe now is the time to take a chance on someone we know nothing about.

September 24, 2008
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I cannot believe the people we have running for office.  Does anyone feel the same way?  First the Rep ticket has John McCain who is a good guy but very old and question his health, and Sarah Palin who has absolutely no experience at all with global politics backing him up.  Can you image her dealing with an Iranian problem??  Then the Dem have Obama who has no real international experience or global financial experience.  Is this the best our country can offer?  I am concerned about putting any of these people in office.  I am a Rep, but I do not want to vote for anyone.

 

  Both of these tickets talk very generally and do not give specifics on how to address anything i.e. Health Care, Financial, International etc.  What I am most concerned about is what kind of America are we going to leave our kids??  Obama/McCain can you answer that!!

September 24, 2008
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I would like to comment about the bail out plan our government in considering. I think it is rediculous how the government can spend the American people money to help rich people. What about the middle class people and poor people who are living check to check with one foot in and out of a shelter. The government is very strick about who receives the binifits us as tax payer support. Why is there a double standard for the guys high on the hog. If we never see the big corporate guys in our neighborhood why do we see them in our pocket. An old saying to give the big guys " get your money where you spend your time."

September 24, 2008
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With all the efforts and money that congress has given to failing banks. companies, etc. in which the taxpayers have to repay. Why doesn’t the government give the money to families in the middle and lower class that make less then two hundred thousand a year. In reality this would do more then giving money to people that have shown they can’t keep it going like they should. If a stimulus check of only three hundred to a fifteen hundred does so much then think of what would happen if you gave two hundred thousand to four hundred thousand dollars to each of the qualified taxpayers in this group of people. They would pay off homes, buy automobiles, and save for college, they would spend money and that would trigger a ripple effect that would go on and on. Therefore preventing any further mortgage trouble and stimulating the economy . The way I see it this would do more for the economy then giving money to the same people that messed up in the first place If we the people are to pay higher taxes, then why not benefit the people who are living pay check to pay check. . I think this would be cheaper then what government is currently planning to do.

September 24, 2008
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I'm from Canada, and quite frankly I'm surprised at how close your Presidential race is. Are you guys really that naive, that you would vote for a candidate that thought that George Bush was right 90% of the time? As a Canadian I could forgive you for electing Bush the first time, but the second time? The guy is a moron, plain and simple, who self serving greed is apparent! How is it so close with a Candidate that is running the SAME ideology or platform or whatever you'd like to label it? Here's an idea, why not look at their PLANS, and make a CHOICE on who has the BEST detailed strategy for your country. I couldn't believe that 50% of America voted for Bush twice, and now it's close with McCain, or George Bush III as we call him over here. Unbelievable! To those who would vote McBush, why not just pour gas on yourself and light yourself on fire? Wouldn't that be less painful than what that flip flopper McBush has in store for you? "The economy is fundamentally sound...then after the crisis...oh wait what I meant was the american workers who are the fundamentals of our economy are sound" LMAO come on guys...now here is a serious question who would you trust to invest your life savings? A person who earned an academic scholarship and graduated from Harvard or a person who finally graduated after bouncing around 5 different colleges? LOL duh over here we're thinking, jeez 50% of Americans really are stupid.

September 25, 2008
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why should the taxpayers pay for the losses of corporate giants like these mortgage companies. these same mortgage companies have forclosed on millions of american taxpayers who had try to do everything possible not to be forclosed on, and save their homes. in essence most of these people probably lost their lives savings, due to preditory practices of these mortgage companies during seemingly good economic times and in an effort by many american families to obtain their opportunity of the american dream of owning their own home.

these same mortgage companies were not very understanding, compromising , nor negotiable of the circumstances which had caused the hardships of families across the united states when they forclosed and sent families into the street with nowhere to go. so the question is why should these same families which consist of american taxpayers who have lost everything pay for the losses of companies who had no sympathy for their losses and others who are nearly losing their homes

September 25, 2008
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the guy telling us the bailout is  a must for the livelyhood for the U.S. economy isn't he the same guy that has been in denial about the overall state of the economy for the past two years, and if these corporation where to retrieve their losses out of the pockets of taxpayers what will they do to pass on the break they recieve to the struggling american household, or help the people whose credit was destroyed as their mortgage doubled. i wish i had friends in washington then maybe i could be paid back for some of my financial losses and poor decisions.

September 25, 2008
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Bailout will not repay taxpayers !

The bailout will not repay taxpayers!  Nonperforming assets are defaulted loans on which the borrowers are in default for at least 90 days. Why will defaulted borrowers suddenly start paying their loans when the Treasury buys them from Wall Street and banks?  Treasury will have to foreclose homes, repo cars and boats and send credit card accounts to collections to recover just a fraction of the book value of the nonperforming loans. Holding defaulted loans long term will not make them perform. The bailout is a huge loss to tax payers!

September 25, 2008
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I truly believe that when the President says the country is in peril because of an "economic crisis" that the situation is serious and in need of immediate attention.  However, I've noticed that at the beginning of the proposed bail-out amount announcements the media reported that the Democratic party in Congress were asking that the provisions of the bail-out bill should include assistance to the working -- but often underpaid -- community of America; i.e., nurses, teachers, policemen, mailmen, etc., who have been affected by this crisis. If all of Congress were in agreement with the provisions of this bill, then obviously a deal would have been worked out days ago.  Obama and McCain our very clear on their positions regarding the bail-out.  And we were told throughout the campaign how unified the parites are despite their differences in their choice for a nominee in the primary elections.  So it's hard to believe that in a time of technology -- what with satellite, e-mail, instant messaging, and what seems to be 24-hour election coverage -- that both parties are somehow unclear on which way their party leader would vote on this bail-out.  We've been told that economic plans have been submitted in the last week by both parties.  We've even heard parts of those plans ourselves.  So even if they travel to Washington in support of finding a solution, I'd love to hear exactly what their contribution has been to that solution in an open debate (the following night).  Wouldn't you?  Wouldn't everyone?

This debate is very important.  Are we going to somehow abandon the laws of the flag that we've followed for so many years in electing a president by canceling a debate which could lead to possible postponment of an election (who knows given all the things that have transpired over the last couple weeks), giving the American people a chance to make one of the most critical decisions of our time?  Whatever is to come, someone's going to have to deal with it.  And it's obvious that something in this current Administration is untoward.  No one cares whose fault it is at this point.  We'd just like to elect someone who has the ability to rectify this.  And this decision has to be made in the next 40 or so days.  I know it's hard for some people to understand "multi-tasking" but it is a fact of life.  And if the person running for President is supposed to represent hard work, dedication, honor, and being able juggle the problems of this nation, how can they take a time-out?  What happened to keeping the American people calm while problems are being worked out?  What happened to showing us that as a leader you can handle more than one issue at a time?

I want a President that's going to be honest about what he or she believes will be best for this country.  And I'd like an opportunity to make my decision based on those statements made in an open debate.

September 25, 2008
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I am so proud to be an American because President Bush plans to rescue United States.  Bush is a hero.  I am definitely voting for McCain for more of the same. 

 

President Bush did the right thing in requesting Congress to hand over $700,000,000,000.00 billion dollars or roughly $4,000.00 per every man, woman, and child Living in United States.

 

Let’s face it; the CEO’s of the big Wall Street financial institutions needs to be rescue. 

 

My only question is, if you put $700,000,000,000.00 billion dollars which is actually hundreds of tons of tax payer’s money on Wall Street, where would the money disappear to? 

 

After all said and done who is the ones actually going to keep the money. 

 

Any Yes I confirm I and voting for John McCain for more of the same. 

 

Most of the Wall Street and Oil tycoon’s executives all concur with President Bush and McCain...

September 25, 2008
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This reminds of this movie I once saw called, "Boiler Room” It’s about a company who made tons of money from investments until that fateful day.  I want to know if JP Morgan will welcome me to the club?

September 25, 2008
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There's no doubt that we are all interconnected.  No one's denying that.  In fact, that's what a lot of the election has been about, the important role the everyday Americans play in the financial structure of this country.  But you can't have one without the other.  If you could, then we would already have been "rescued" from this crisis.  When our soldiers our fighting on behalf of this country it includes soldiers of all walks of life; those whose familes make hundreds of thousands and those whose families make very little money.  And if they are fortunate enough to return after such a battle, oftentimes the circumstances of their livelihood are different amongnst veterans. Perhaps a nurse or a teacher or even a soldier will never expercience a 250,000 plus income, but their contribution to America is priceless. We need people to be inspired to continue to go into these professional fields, but people are often deterred because of the monetary compensation they would receive from these professions -- not all aspiring nurses or teachers, etc., but there are many.  Everyone's talent in life will not be perceived as a multimillion dollar entitled profession.  However, they are still vital to the operation of our nation -- or the world for that matter.  And in asking for a loan from the American people -- and I am aware that in referring to "Wall Street" that that does include the American people -- but if a loan is needed to stablize this country, let's help everyday, working Americans who've contributed funds when tax were inflated, when gas costs were inflated, when interest rates were inflated.  Why does that seem to be an anamoly for some people?

 

In everything that has gone on in this country over the last eight years, it scares me to hear that people are calling for more of the same.  Democrats have been clear on why they are holding out on approving the bill and even some Republicans have stated similar reasons for holding out on their votes.  But no one's saying why the opponents of these provisions are holding out.  I'd like to know that.  The bravest thing you can do is be honest.

September 25, 2008
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I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, AMERICA IS IN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN BECAUSE OF OUR PRESIDENT EVERYBODY WANTS MCCAIN NOT TO DEBATE BECAUSE OF THE MONEY PROBLEMS IN AMERICA. AFICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL FOR YEARS NOW THAT WHITE AMERICA HAS TO DO IT, NOW WE ARE IN A CRISIS. DEBATE DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NOW I GUESS EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO STRUGGLE

September 25, 2008
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EVERYONE'S STRUGGLING! TRUST ME.  "EVERYONE" NEEDS TO START THINKING ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THIS COUNTRY (WHICH HAPPENS TO BE COMPRISED OF AMERICANS OF ALL COLORS AND CREEDS). 

 

It is often reported that the African-American (Black) community or Mexican-American community are the only people that suffer from poverty.  But when you live in this world and experience different communities through interaction, you often see that there are a "class" of people -- not race -- that are struggling to make it in this economy.  If you are willing to work; meaning, you've received education or training or if you're just willing to learn by working on the job, then you should be able to work "hard" and provide for your family and watch the growth of your means throughout family generations to come.  Let's hope that all parties have a plan or can come to an agreement on a plan that will benefit everyone. 

 

"Don't forget the little people."  That's a very strong statement.  We Americans have a strong need to believe in our country and in our government.  That's what motivates us to give back to this country; believing that the sacrifices that we make for one another as a whole are all important in sustaining the growth and safety of this country. And having the will to go to bat for our country when called upon is something that I believe can be achieved when people believe in their country.  Foreign policy, economics, healthcare, education -- and not in any particular order -- are equally important.  You can't be unsuccessful in one of these areas and successful in only a part or some of these areas and expect to have a viable nation. 

 

Let the candidates debate.

September 25, 2008
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong, don’t spend this money on Wall Street.  Take these seven-hundred billion dollars and spend this money on our national infrastructure.  Divide it equally among the States to recover our cities budget shortfalls, to improve our schools, to advance our hospitals, to strengthen law enforcement, and upgrade our bridges and highways.  By doing these things will strengthen our economy!  What happened to the needs of our citizens outweighing the needs of the Wall Street few?

Let us support ourselves and we will survive this crisis.  As a nation of one, we won’t fail.

September 25, 2008
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time to save money,  if your on welfare  get off,  if you cant pay your mortgage sell it if school is too much home school if politicians do you harm which clearly they have vote them out. get out of this give me kind of nation and do for yourself. Now thats change we need dont you think

September 25, 2008
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Oh, now I understand why this race is so close. Work to support yourself?  I wonder why no one else has thought of that.  Ever heard of taxes?  The percentage of your earnings that's taken out of your check to aid in the development and stabilization of this country?

 

Please understand.  We need new developments and innovation to have a viable nation.  I don't think other countries look at us and say right-side America or left-side America.  I believe they see America.  They need to see a unity of people who love and trust their country.  Thinking that we're somehow so far removed from Wall Street that the possible downfall of this entity is perceived as being something that won't drastically affect working people is an insane idea.  I mean, if there are no businesses to work for, how will we make money?  Just think about what's at the root of what you do at work.  Not right or wrong.  Solution.  Solution.  Solution.  A solution that will help restore everyone who's had a devastating loss in this crisis.

September 26, 2008
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If Obama cared about the American people he would forget about the Debate and get back to Washington to help with the crisis like McCain is planning to do.  My vote goes to McCain.

September 26, 2008
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McCain cant seem to make up his mind on anything,Larry King live,yes, then no, Letterman yes, then no,debates yes then no then yes again,give em the the money yes then no,Please lets not go there AGAIN.Nobody wanted him in Washington for a vote on the wall st. billons,after all he voted less than any other Senator this year,missed over 400 votes.Besides I would not vote for a guy who has over 100 million dollars,7 homes,and 13 cars,hes got nothing in common with my family or anyone I know.Gov.Palin to me just rambles on & on and saids NOTHING.

     NO BAIL OUT,PRSION for master minds & CEOS.They should not be rewarded with millons for there screw ups and thiefing way,people who live beyond there means,let your homes go for a loss & rent,rip up the credit cards,buy your clothes & shoes at a cheaper store,start clipping coupons & buy store brand groceries,Play games with your kids at the kitchen table again,and FORGET about the Jones, there in as big a mess as the rest of us

September 26, 2008
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The Ireporter who indicated that the government bail the people out, and not the failed financial institutions, has it right by legal precedent. Everyone needs to go to Nesara.org and have a look at this legislation----why haven't we enacted this legislation?

September 26, 2008
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Can anyone tell me if our Soldieers stationed in Afganistan are getting a $10,000 per month stipend to spend over there (Only there) to help out with their economy.  A friend of mine said he knows someone who is stationed there that has been receiving this money.

September 26, 2008
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When Congress voted to give Fannie Mae the ability to offer loans to low income earners, it was not the major cause of the Mortgage Meltdown.  When Geo W removed the 20% down payment requirement and income verification had more to do with the problems we are facing now.  Also, pressure from lenders and mortgage brokers on Real Estate Appraisers to push values on appraisals.

September 26, 2008
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I feel if Mc Cain can not make it to the dabate tonight then he obviously can not handle being a pesident. How long does it actually take to get from where he is to where the debate is going to be? Its all in a days work. Does he think being a president is easy? LOL

September 26, 2008
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why should we tax payers buy out the free trade system of the stock market, when there is no guarantee that it will not happen again and almost assuradly will.  let the market crash and bring down the rich to a more responsible level with all americans.  then maybe the system will work as it should.  to hell with us bailing out the rich. our government does not have the guts to make hard decisions against the rich. where are we headed. toward being owned by some foriegn country.

September 26, 2008
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September 26, 2008
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Grab your throats and gasp for air... we're about to fall on our fat faces... and it's about time! Let Wall Street fall on it's ass and let our credit-hungry lives make the changes needed to improve the future of America.

September 26, 2008
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Are you hearing the same bounce intelligence from both candidates as I am hearing? Neither of these "fine gentlemen" are igniting anything in me...

September 26, 2008
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One more post and I'll leave... $700 billion is on top of $400 billion already given by the Federal Reserve... don't forget this! This bailout is a complete layer of BS being layed upon us... please don't believe any of this... and I am NOT a conservative Republican... just a average American of average intelligence...

September 26, 2008
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people when you go to the poll this november don't just go there to vote for someone because you have been with them from the get go , you need to look at what has been happening from 2001 until now and really look at where the country has come from to now its a mess and you want to continue this mess, i am telling you if you vote for the reds , this country will be destroy. Think about your children and not your self for a while. American people america is for us and not just for a candite who can not feel our pain , how do you feel that you have one house and you loose it, compare to someone that has many and if he loose one it will not be a big deal. After the reds are finish with us we will have world war three on our hands. if the reds is voted in he will go to war with iran and then what .This man have never ever talk about peace everything for them is war .

September 26, 2008
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I am watching the debate as I write this and I am saddened and frightened by the "performance" of Sen McGrayin.  His similarity to W intellectually has been affirmed.  After eight years of nucular I can't take eight more of the ear pain induced by McG's butchery of "difficult" names and terms, i.e. parisssstroka. 

 

McG is coming across to me as both provincial and patronizing.  I believe he has used the phrase, "Sen. Obama JUST DOESN'T UNDERSTAND" at least a half dozen times.

 

He doesn't believe that we should engage in dialogue with those in the world who disagree with us?  He IS the Ugly American-disrespectful of those not like us and committed to imposing his will on those he deems wrong.

 

He has promised to take care of those Americans like him-the troops and the veterans.  What about the children? the uninsured? the disenfranchised? the folks who own only one home-or who are homeless?

 

Obama was much more respectful of McG than he deserved.  It is clear who is the class act.

September 26, 2008
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McG you said you hated the way the vet's were treated when they came home from Viet Nam, well Mr McG I am a vet also and I know how we were treated.  You said you helped resolve the POW/MIA issue, well I guess you can live with the 5000 + still missing, so much for resolving the issue.  You siad that you loved the your brother veterans, I guess that is why you have voted to reduce monies for the Vetertans Admin and other veteran issues.  Mr. McG I am retired military and a disabled veteran and you sure as hell are no brother of mine.

September 27, 2008
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DEBATE: HANDS DOWN TO OBAMA;LIKE THEY SAY,IF YOU LIKED THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THEN MCCAINS YOUR MAN.OBAMA SHOWED

GREAT DIPLOMACY TO ME,STRONG IN HIS BELIEF TO SPEAK TO OTHER COUNTRIES BEFORE PULLING OUT THE GUNS,STRENGH AT HOME,MAKING US A COUNTRY THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AGAIN.WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE AND STUDY THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST.IAM A CAUCASIAN LADY OF 60 YEARS AND CHANGE IS NO STRANGER TO ME,IAM NOT AFFRAID TO MOVE FORWARD,VOTE YOUR HEART NOT YOUR PARTY.

         HIMEY,I AGREE,AND THANK YOU.

September 27, 2008
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This first debate may have shown equal abilities in the candidates' defense of their views, but it was the views themselves that made Obama the winner. Specifically, when McCain says he would consider a freeze on spending with the exception of the military, veterans, and some entitlements, he is ignoring the American people and their current economic struggles...offering no help to them.

September 27, 2008
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It was so obvious who the superior diplomat is between the two candidates.  Even when in the course of the debate it was stated that he wanted to hear the two of them exchange with each other, Jim asked McCain to direcly address Obama, and McCain didn't even look at him.  McCain has cold, condescending airs, and phony expressions. He rants, and raves, and sounds like the ongoing "bla bla bla" that you hear on the Senate floor. He has the know it all superiority of having to have preconditions to meet with other leaders.   On the other hand Obama a gift of storytelling, charisma, and manners.  He offered many gestures of comradary and clearly had better ettiquite.  I feel that Obama is genuine, he is a pleasure to listen to, speaks eliquantly, and has real and believable gestures that match how he expresses himself.  The tones that McCain has, his bragging, his old world stories, and judgemental expressions will not get us anywhere in world diplomacy.  People have had enough of the war hero.  We need someone who wants to lead us to Peace, not more war.  I know it's an awful reality that our government has involved ourselves in ridding the world of bad guys....but I would trust Barak Obama to only go to war if it was the last resort.  He would at least try to talk to the enemy...Talk first, What a concept?  We teach our children on the playground not to hit each other, you talk to others if they upset you....simple yet when addressed in debate, they act like Obama is nuts to consider it.  Who do you think could talk to someone who differs in philosophy, and find some common ground?  How is it that sitting across the table from someone you legitimize their regeme? The ability to move on, to bring clarity, to get down to common sense, is Obamas gift to do with grace. I hope that there are enough people with real common sense, to put a real person in charge, someone to give us hope,   to bring us back into good standing worldwide and at home.

September 27, 2008
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Palin: I'm all about the position that America is in and that we have to look at a $700 billion bailout. And as Sen. McCain has said unless this nearly trillion dollar bailout is what it may end up to be, .

Couric: If this doesn't pass, do you think there's a risk of another Great Depression?

 

Palin: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action

Couric: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

Couric: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

 

Palin: I have not.

Couric: What are the pros and cons of it do you think?

 

Palin: Oh, well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course.

 

Couric: By consumers, you're saying?

 

Palin:  Consumers - and those who were predator lenders also .

 

I want to know why Sarah Palin thinks it’s okay to bailout large corporations that made “poor decisions” and actually believe it is a MUST that we do so. But can’t seem to decide whether or not to bailout consumers that made “poor decisions”?  It is the same concept.  If you think that, “some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded” than that should hold true for large corporations on Wall Street as well. 

 

(Quotes taken from: One-on-one With Sarah Palin, CBS News. Sept. 24, 2008. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml )

September 27, 2008
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I think they both did good. The only thing that I am thinking about though is, John McCain clearly has more foreign policy experience but he just couldn't seem to shake Barack Obama.  I am sure everyone thought that Obama would struggle WAY more than he did becuz of this exp. but he didn't. I think it was even.  But I am looking at the polls and Mr. McCain needs more than an even debate outcome right now.

September 27, 2008
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hsprincipal 2 hours ago, Totally agree with you, and like your sense of humor.  McGraylin...good one!

September 27, 2008
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I am disabled middle class multi-cultural and now, EX-republican female I was taught many years ago by some of the most wonderful strong and powerful Attorneys, now judges, that when you are seeking truth and the best way to go or, the leader to choose for your Country, you listen to both sides and then remove the drama, the bull, and grandstanding and strip each person to until they become transparent.  The best starting point is simple.  The first impressions; when this all first started both presidential candidates were in the raw.  I noticed that Barack stayed steady and knew when to shut up listen in order for him to learn more.  McCain always talked about his suffering and what he did for our country in the past and I am sure we all appreciate that.  At least he was able to come home and tell his story.  In this current war, 1000’s will never be able to.  Then I noticed he started sounding just like we are going to have another 4-8 years of the same incompetent behavior running our country currently.   Not only for me, but for my children and grandchildren.  As I would briefly tune in every few days I noticed that McCain started sounding now more like Barak instead of himself.  I question myself.  Who is the Leader and who is the follower.   When McCain took to using the saying "CHANGE" in his party like Barak started his campaign originally, I knew that it is more about winning not more about what he was going to do after he won.  Our leader whoever it will be needs to be able to Multi-task on a massive scale at all times and take the pressure with grace, honor, and respect.  With all that will fall on our next president, you can safely bet health issues will become an issue.  I knew that when Sara Palain became McCain's running mate and in one of the CNN quick shots when she was asked what she would do if asked.  Palain said giggling oh my I don't even know what a VP does and proceeded to state that there are way more qualified people then she to assume the position of VP .  Palain stated she would not even know where to start.  THAT IS A WARNING SIGN.  This is what I mean by seeing a person in their rawest form.  Their true form and everything after that will be fake, flawed, and eventually failing just like the last 8 years.  Obviously win you step foot into that white house you better have all aspects of everything on queue.  Not just getting a crash course.

Now, as far as this 700 Billion dollar bailout; how on God’s Green Earth can anyone not suffer because of the incompetence of all heads?  Because of banks and their slick practices, they have contributed to more, credit fraud for consumers, etc, but great money for them while the little person (middle class) struggles and suffers.  Now they want to use the little person’s money to pay for their screw ups.  I SAY A PROFOUND NO.  I had nothing to do with it I should not have to suffer the consequences nor should any other American.  Greed got them into it and they spent and spent some more, when the little person spends beyond their means, the little person has to suffer the consequences.  I think that the all the positions that are being debated over are things that are proposals to save the GREEDY and Not the NEEDY.  God forbid the head honchos would then have to live like everyone else.  If the Government wants to bail out bad judgment; by people who knew better and just got Greedy, then why not bail out the middle class of some of their debt too i.e. credit cards, home loans, auto loans.  That would give us more money to spend into the economy right?  Let someone get into office to build everything back up from start.  Lets’ face it sometimes you just have to start over when you screwed up so badly.

September 27, 2008
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How does it feel to be held hostage by Republican House representatives.   They keep repeating they're looking out for the taxpayer when it is less regulation they are stalling for.  They are attempting to hold out for a cut in capital gains taxes so their cronies  on Wall Street can make their fortunes all over again.  Beware, when any Republican uses the term Free-Market.

September 27, 2008
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The debate last night was very enlightening, hopefully all those old enough to vote were watching and paying very close attention. Sen. Obama stayed on the questions, as best he could. I commend the fact that he was composed much better than I could have been when attacked by the fearful, sneering Sen. McCain. All of us old enough to vote didn't need all the reminders that McCain kept injecting that he is as old as dirt and had been around the earth nearly as many times as the moon. That, does not qualify him to be president. It may have been impressive to some, that weren't really listening to the significance of his replies. He dodged the questions more times than not and took the opportunity to insult and demean Obama at every opportunity. Let us all remind ourselves that Kennedy had little experience as a presidential leader when he was elected, yet, he was one of our best presidents in history. The most important qualifications of a great leader, executive, administrator are not that he thinks he knows all, says he has done it all or has been everywhere, but that they know the best qualified to surround himself with and advise him. That is what a true leader does. I would hope that the viewers truly listened and observed the fact that McCain is just not the leader type. I would pray that between now and election day, the voters that have computers, research the voting records of each candidate, which is a matter of public record. For those that do not have computers, the public libraries have those records for everyone that wants to make the effort to do the research. This is not just another presidential election. This is an election that will determine, like no other, the future of the continued security and stability of our nation, not just for ourselves, but for our children and their children. I encourage the voters to get out from in front of their TVs, stop believing all the campaign ads and go do some real research, as if your life depended upon it, because, it does my friends.

Respectfully,

A very concerned citizen, parent, grandparent, and great grandparent.

September 28, 2008
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WAKE UP CALL TO THE POLITICO SAUSAGE GRINDERS

 

 

I am extremely proud to be an American, Military Veteran and Middle class. I have always been proud of this great nation and the principles on which it was built. Looking at the political landscape today, I can’t help but shake my head and ask “Is this what our founding fathers wanted for us?”  This past year, HBO aired the mini-series of John Adams. One of the most intriguing aspects of the series what the presidential elections in which the victor became president and the runner up became vice-president. IT would seem that it would have been the best of both worlds in which Democrat and Republican would work hand in hand for this country, not either or. Looking at the landscape today, why does it have to be one way or the other? Both parties have great talking points as well as their share of negative ones. So here is a challenge for Holloywood, Media organizations and political party sausage grinders: Stop playing the race and gender cards. Frankly it has become tiresome and polarizing. Stop telling the American public how you can relate to us, when you really have little background or experience as such. You have never walked in our shoes until recently when one of the parties actually brought someone whom has walked in our shoes into the mix. For that I applaud the party who did. Perhaps both sides should look harder at this aspect in the future. I also recently heard in an Advertisement / Campaign ad that one of the candidates was working to ensure that their daughters had the same opportunities our sons had. Well, frankly I am not sure how much more insulted I could have been. Even if nothing changes today, that candidate and family will never have the challenges that average middle and lower class have to face on a daily basis. So whom are they kidding? Sure, you can claim that as an activist you helped through your community as a voice. However, I suspect you have never walked in our shoes and have never had to struggle to figure out what bill you were going to push off to next month because you, your spouse or family circumstance has placed you in a position where it came down to paying a bill or feeding your family. Further, as a Service Disabled Veteran, what candidates have actually been in harms way? I ask, not for bragging rights, but rather from the aspect of knowing what the atrocities and what the face of war looks like. I, like any other soldier NEVER would want to see that again, but would do so again without hesitation if it meant protecting those we love and this great nation. So be careful and clear when being critical. Again, it is about experience and understanding that goes with that experience and whom have sent their son’s and daughters to war with ours as one? Policy and politicking are one thing.  Living it is quite a different matter. So I ask those whom haven’t walked in our shoes, how can you state you understand us? We have gone into harms way to protect this great land, with no questions asked. We are not politicians, but Fathers, Mothers, Sons & Daughters that believe in something greater than ourselves. Today as I watch the campaign, I cannot help but ask myself, do our politicians really think we are that naive? Our past mistakes in foreign policy are a direct result of efforts in both parties and administrations. One administration for reducing our military down to bare bones. Another for gross mis-dealings such as having a CFO decide how to run a war. Of course there are many mitigating circumstances that go hand in hand with this, but you get the picture. Today, clearly the issues have no real bearing on this election, if they did, then perhaps our elected officials would actually work together, not in the name of any one party, not for the sake of who would get better billing or their “special interests”, but in the true interests of this great nation and it’s people. Today’s election reflects more of a popularity contest in Hollywood and Washington than America.

 

So here are some sobering realizations for you. Whom we elect as our next president should have nothing to do with Race, Gender or Age. We should focus on Leadership, experience and moral courage to make the hard decisions. Our next President will have to stand on their own, be accountable and make the tough decisions needed, we cannot afford nor have the time to grow the leader. In this case, OJT simply will not due. Let’s face it, our next President will have to face unprecedented challenges in very dangerous times. While I and many of my demographic are certainly upset with our past elected officials, let’s remember that we as Americans need to look beyond the Parties, because there is more than enough blame to go around. Let’s not focus on the Hollywood and Media tactics, but look beyond those and remember what as Americans we want for our sons and daughters. Sure, it is easy to get caught up in the immediate circumstances, but today we are suffering for the actions of both parties, through a number of administrations. The solution to fix our Domestic & National Security will take decades. The fact is, that no matter what party occupies the oval office, taxes will increase, foreclosures will continue and the economy will continue to slide, so if your thinking that our situation in America will improve in the near future by your choice of candidate, think again, and think hard. Today, more than any other time in History, we will need strong thought leadership and in that leader we choose, a strong body around that leadership and moral courage that can drive the policy and governance that is truly in the best interest of this country.  There are many things I like about both candidates, there are things I do not like about both as well. However, mine and the rest of America’s decision should be based on the facts and our better judgment, not a Hollywood publicity or smear campaign that has been carefully crafted to touch on the exposed nerve of the day or historical significance of gender or Race. After all, America was once called the melting pot. It is time we remember what that means.

September 29, 2008
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Politically speaking, to delay the "Bail-Out" Bill

would obviously (MOST LIKELY) be more beneficial for the Democrats...?? BUT- IF people (REALLY) BELIEVE that Congress can work in a Bi-Partisan way and taking into consideration the last BUSH-"HEIST" (The S&L Scandal) as well as taking into consideration what happened when President Hoover decided to let the Market's "TUFF-IT-OUT" I THINK CONGRESS ((SHOULD)) TAKE THE ((NECESSARY)) TIME TO MAKE SURE AVERAGE AMERICANS WANT GET "STUCK" WITH THE "FAT-MAN'S" BILL (AGAIN)... A BLANK CHECK ON A "FAST-SHUFFLE AND/OR HUSTLE" IS A GURANTEED RECIPE FOR "THE S&L SCANDAL ALL OVER AGAIN"-!!! SO, HOW 'BOUT GET THIS ONE RIGHT THIS TIME CONGRESS, FOR THE (AVERAGE) AMERICAN (INSTEAD OF THE (USUAL) "HOGS AT THE TROUGH")...??

September 30, 2008
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This one thing is certain, Biden will be vice-president either way.  Way to go, Biden. Can they do that?

 

Lillian

NORTH CAROLINA

September 30, 2008
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The media is also showing no leadership...creating the news again, instead of reporting.... this crisis was created as tens of thousands of home buyers "lied" about their income ...EZ Qual loans....plus put nothing down...how can a family make $100,000 per year and yet stand in line for food stamps and free meals at the school, qualify for a home loan?...real estate agents making their 3%-6% of the sale and also doing bad loans were totally excited about the zero standards and "amazing" income....Countrywide even paid 1% to real estate agents if they just gave the client the application form and steered the business to Countrywide. No one talks about the huge and powerful real estate lobby as they are in every town...but the toxic loans started in local towns.....the greed "trickle up" theory....there is fraud at the lowest levels, igorance and greed everywhere...the FBI and lawyers have 100 years of potential investigations....VA and FHA will have fewer claims as they requested proof of income...of course, some companies knew how the 'create' W-2's and pay stubs with copy machines...

September 30, 2008
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To begin this whole situation is absolutely revolting. Everyone of our so-called "leaders" are arguing about which political side is right or wrong. I'm sorry to have to be the one to let ya'll know this but both sides are at fault! So let's stop acting like children, lay that piece of information aside, and lead by example by moving on to the real issue. Which is the fact that Congressional leaders want or don't want (depending on the leader) to sign a bill that will give 700 billion dollars to these big businesses that are bringing our country's economy down. Now at the heart of the issue are regular everyday Americans who have not been able to make their payments on credit and housing bills. If you break that 700 billion dollars down and divide it by $10,000 it would equal 70 million. So, that means that congress could write a bill that puts $10,000 towards the credit and housing bills of everyday Americans and also write in that the banks recieving this money will only take out the minimum payment per month so that this actually gives 70 million Americans the time to catch up on their bills which would help these bigger companies along with all the banks that loan them money. It would also stimulate the economy, because unlike the rich, the poor and middle class typically cannot afford to hold on to their money. The money definitely would "trickle" up, whereas the "trickle down" process does not work. Aside from that though, I would like to make an ammendment to this bill. I want every big business to have higher regulation including a requirement for companies that outsource. This requirement would be for any company that has employees in another country that service Americans in some way. The requirement would be to send in a very detailed list of all their employees and their salaries. From there, I would like their yearly salaries to be subtracted from the yearly amount an average American would make and I would like that to be paid straight to the government. That would definitely bolster our economy. I don't understand why this issue is so hard for congressional members to figure out. Obviously these companies don't know how to spend their money and help America (their country!) while doing it. So let's do it for them.

September 30, 2008
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I have been listening and researching politics which I have never done. I listen and read alot of posts all over the internet.

I have always been a Clinton suppoter. Once she was out of the race and Onama tool the lead I was not on board. O had every intention to do a write in on my ballot to vote for Hillary.

Then I read Obama's plan and I was very impressed with many of  the things he wants to do to change the USA.

1. He wants to take care of the Seniors citizens which I have never heard from any one ever. He has a great plan for the working class and he has the best medical plan I have ever seen which if I read it correctely it would not only take care of citizens from all walks of life and he wants to make sure that even the providers are taken care of. Many people think that doctors make tons of money and I can tell you that working in the field that is not the case. They make very little money with a large over head this has gotten worse with the economy such as it is.

His plan to take care of the middle class and lower income families I was impressed.

What made me sway to Obama? I saw doing a really and while he was explaining his position someone in the crowed was feeling faint or dizzy do to the heat. Obama was paying attention to the crowd and he sent water dowm to this individule. I was so impressed with the fact that he didn't justkeep talking he took the time to make sure this person was taken care of. THis impressed me and lead me to believe that Obama really truly cares about people and the ones he seems to care about those of us who are at the bottom the woeking class.

All those out there talk about what is good for the people ha. It's about those who make money is what they care about.

This is a hard election and the next President will have his hands full. I believe that Obama will be able to take it on and not faulter.

No let me address the other side. I am so dissapointed in the republican party. They have brought in this Sara Palin to try to help their mission. The said part is she is just a pawn in the political game. It's really sad what Mcain is doing. It's lie after lie after lie. Palin isn't much better.

I have been getting so upset with all that has been going on how dare they use an inocent child as a pawn as well. A child that has special needs. I have a brother that is neorlogically handicapped and has been that way since birth. He is now in his 40's and do we get help from the goverment I think not.

I keep hearing about religion it dishartens me that this is being brought in to the election. I also can't stand that the republican party is using gender as an attack which should have no barring I don't think these things would be happening If Hillary were running it is utterly stupid.

Then we have this economic crisses going on and it is so sad that Mcain is trying to act as he is trying to be the solver of the issue when he really isn't doing anything. Their is some much finger pointing going on in congress whis is really dumb we are not in kindergarten we are adults so they need to act as such. Obama has shown that he can act as an adult why can't anyone else.

Anyone with common sence could have seen these things comming 4 - 6 years ago but our current so called President has been so busy playing GI Joe with all his lies about Irag that he hasn't paid any attention to what is going on here at home. I think he forgot that he needs to take care of our great country.

Our children and grandchildren are dying because of all the stories Bush made up to go into Iraq. The children and grandchildren that have come back are in horrible condition and some may never be who they were before the went there. Thier families are destroyed and more.

The on war we really should be fighting is the one in Afganistan we need to get these people who came into our country and changed us for ever no ones lives will be the same untill these people are caught and even then the ones closest to the loss of family members of 9/11 will never be the same.

So here we are with an economy that is out of control a war that should never have been started in the first place and those responsible for 9/11 still not being held accountable as Bush said they would.

For 8 years we have heard nothing but lies and more lies, Then we have Mcain with even more lies.

I pray that people will really look at all the facts and really pay attention to who they are voting for. I hope Gov. Palin figures it out and realizes that she is just a pawn and a poor on at that.

I think Obama is our best bet.

I also would like to see congress will come together and show Bush that he can't throw any more temper tantrums over the economy he created.

I am just watching the news and here we go again Mcain blamming Obama for the bail out??? How about we grow up Mcain you are older than dirt.

October 1, 2008
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i think that if we need a bailout they should give it to us. We need it bad. I am 15 and i dont want to be paying for this crap when i am older. I wont be able to get a college loan or even a loan just because rich senators wont help us out. they dont care they will be long gone before they have to deal with this crap. WE NEED A BAIL OUT NOW!!!!!! they are ruining our country. They should offer some of their millions to help. If they dont want to go into debt even more. JUST HELP US OUT!!

October 2, 2008
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I like Sarah Palin More than John McCain

October 2, 2008
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Yes, I am 18 still young and learning but Sarah Palin is just not ready to be VP yet. To me just watching her interviews and hearing her speak about important matters it's like she doesn't know how to talk professional. She is always beating around the bush about something, saying answers that have nothing to do the subject. For example with the Katie Couric interview... She doesn' now any trials besides Roe v. Wade (which Katie gave her)! I took Law in High school from the 9th-12th grade. I learned so many trials like Brown v Board of education, the Scottsbouro Boys case I mean so many. Now this is my first year of Law school and I'm learning so much it's crazy. Sometimes I say to myself " Do I know more then this Palin chick"? Don't get me wrong I have nothing against her, but I feel that she needs to learn how to speak more fluently and stop telling politional jokes about the "six pack american average joe" I mean how more "UN" professional can you get jeez!! Then people have a nerve to blabble on about Obama running this country. All I have to say is if John McCain and Sarah Palin become President and Vice President of this country I'm getting a passport and I'm out of here! This world will come to an end! Think about it... McCain is with President Bush 99% of the time! He's with someone who let our economy crash! Yeah and you tell me things couldn't get any worse. This makes me wanna be a Plitical Analyst for CNN. I could interpret words and sentences way better than she can. I've had so many public speaking classes it's such a breeze for me. I feel Govener Palin should take some type of speech class no offense. I just had to let those feelings out.

October 2, 2008
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What ever happened to GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE!

October 2, 2008
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The sweeteners the new bail-out plan includes are like a twisted person giving candy to a child to pull them in for the rape and abuse.

 

Just heard that NEW Plan to be voted on October 3. WILL ALLOW WALL STREET TO KEEP their million dollar PAYCHECKS and even pay them more. This came from Congressman Sherman who read the New Bail-Out plan for October 3rd vote. 

 

Make them keep working on it the only thing falling quick are the crooks that put us here in the first place.

October 2, 2008
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Gov.Palin was rehearsed way to much,and it showed .I ve only been here 5 weeks did it for me.Go home Sarah you cant run with the big dogs.

  SEN.BIDEN WINS THIS DEBATE HANDS DOWN.OBAMA & BIDEN all the way.Take us back to where we belong.

October 2, 2008
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Gov.Palin was rehearsed way to much,and it showed .I ve only been here 5 weeks did it for me.Go home Sarah you cant run with the big dogs.

  SEN.BIDEN WINS THIS DEBATE HANDS DOWN.OBAMA & BIDEN all the way.Take us back to where we belong.

October 3, 2008
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Regarding the Bailout - where is Greenspan in all of this?  Why doesn't anyone bring up his name?  What exactly is his contribution to this financial mess?  Isn't there a computer program that can sift out all of the sub-prime mortgages, give names to them, and predict a time line for the end of this fall out of home mortgages?

October 5, 2008
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Why there is no talk by the press or democrats about Sarah Palin's connection to the party that wants Alaska's independence?

October 5, 2008
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Good question Salzaf1,or McCain pulling out of Michigan,is that what a mavrick would do? just give up on the great state of Michigan,that should bring up some RED Flags. Palins troopergate,her lawyers are trying to stall that stuff off till election is over,surprise America, if shes not guilty whats the hold up? I think were all much smarter than they think & Americans surely will give us the good & not the bad and ugly again.

October 5, 2008

I could really care less who wins.. The government will spend several trillion dollars to get us out of the financial mess. The perfect storm is brewing just like it did in 1929..after the crash, but this time the government plan is to inflate our money supply to get the US out of the financial mess caused by deregulation of capital markets (namely hedge funds). Inflating our money supply impact will take about a year to impact the US economy. Prices will start going up dramatically over time. And then hyper inflation will take affect as all the money printing affects devalue the dollar to worthless pennies. In china car sales are up 20% and the top selling vehicles are SUV's , Chinese people have the highest saving rates that is why their economy is doing so good. China has a huge manufacturing base like 80% of their economy they make things and sell them for profit around the world. Name some things the US sells around the world for profit that is made in the US? There you have it the "emporer who wears no clothes is being slowing exposed" They are consuming all the oil the US is currently not consuming so when our economy begins to perk up again and the oil fields are depleting guess what 300 dollar a barrel oil. Strap on your seat belts we are in for one hell of a ride.

October 6, 2008
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The GOP smear machine is in full swing,AMERICANS ARE SICK OF THIS NONSENSE!!!!!!! Dont fall for this again, Bush did it, and it worked twice,dont let fear guide your vote PLEASE,Obama/Biden 08,its the only i see.Dont forget to  VOTE.

October 7, 2008
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Its a shame how we as a country,fall for the okey dokey time after time with these Republican tricks. We know better but somehow our peers we look up to has an invested interest in the way our small communitys think. Just ask yourself this question. Do you really think your going to be better off with the Republican trickology? Today you have a job,tommorow your company might not be there for you,unless you go to India,or somewhere. I refuse to beleive a large share of USA voters really can be that dumb.Trickle down effect only benefited the Wall Street Tycoons,and the like. so dont think your part of that crowd. GOD Bless America

October 8, 2008
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I quess after lastnights debate.America showing were not so dumb.

October 8, 2008
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I just looked at the bailout and found one thing missing the immediate closing of the Enron loophole we still have to wait a year for that to happen(Sept 2009) even though we know that speculators have played a big part in the upheavel of this economy! Deregulation Republicans answer to a great economy. Yea right!

October 9, 2008
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Ok we might as well just hand McCain the election and see what he and Palin will do for your Jobs,Health,since you people are so happy with the way things are going.America did the same thing with Bush with the other elections,(Beleiveing in Trickledown Economics). How foolish you are. I see the hate poping itself up in these Rallies.Have we forgot we are all Americans here voting. The world is watching this Election,and we are giving them ground to say look at way they call Democracy.God Help Us

October 11, 2008
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with the credit market and the so called bailout i and i'am sure alot of people do not know where this is going.but i'am wondering about all the banks and corporate companies who is over seeing their balance sheets to verify if not cooked or covered up that this money is being

October 12, 2008
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I'm watching CNN right now....Yes, there is RACISM IN OUR COUNTRY AND PALIN/MCCAIN STARTED THIS.  It's really sad to see the ignorance in the crowds the vile they spill out of their mouths.  They are so hateful, it's shameful that we have Americans in our country acting like this.  They should really be ashamed of themselves.  If you are a racist person reading this, you should really think about why you don't like Obama, and do some self-evaluating of your own self.  Realize why you are a racist and where it came from.  The man can't help it because of his skin color.  He just happens to be smart, had a great education, and wants all of us to have a better future.  Don't be afraid, and  don't be so hateful.  Ask yourself "why?"

October 13, 2008
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BARACK IS NOT A MUSLIM OR AN ARAB AND IS NO ONE TO BE AFRAID OF!!!  BE AFRAID OF MCBUSH!!!  MCCAIN IS WRONG FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND SHAME ON HIM AND PALIN FOR TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE ABOUT OBAMA, WHO IS A CHRISTIAN. WE ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN JUST WHITE PEOPLE!!!  IT MEANS ALL COLORS AND ALL RACES.  LISTEN, BIBLE BELT, JUDGE NOT, LEST YOU BE JUDGED--AND YOU WILL!!!  DON'T FORGET JESUS WAS NOT BLACK OR WHITE, AS HE CAME FROM ISRAEL.  JESUS WAS BORN IN BETHLEHAM IN ISRAEL, THEN MOVED AS A BABY TO NAZARETH IN GALILEE, BETWEEN JORDAN AND ISRAEL.  REMEMBER ADAM AND EVE AND THE GARDEN OF EDEN??  THAT'S IN IRAQ WHERE THE TIGRES AND EUPHRATES RIVERS COME TOGETHER.  WE ARE ALL DECENDENTS OF ADAM AND EVE.

 

VOTE FOR THE ISSUES AND FOR WHAT THE NEW PRESIDENT WILL DO FOR YOU.  GO BY THE OVERALL PICTURE AS WE NEED SO MUCH TO BE DONE.  DO YOU TRUST  MCBUSH AND ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THE SAME WITH EMPTY PROMISES?  THAT'S WHAT WE JUST HAD AND LOOK AT THE MESS WE'RE IN. BARACK HAS A WIERD NAME BUT HE'S A CHRISTIAN, HE'S VERY SMART, WAS THE ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW, IS STILL YOUNG, IN GREAT PHYSICAL HEALTH, STRONG AND WITH THE COURAGE TO DELVE INTO BRAND NEW ENDEAVORS AND BREAK AWAY FROM THE OLD FAMILIAR OBSOLETE. IT WILL TAKE GREAT COURAGE TO CHANGE EVERYTHING OVER TO "GREEN" AND TO CHANGE OUR GOVERNMENT TO BE IN FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE  INSTEAD OF JUST THE RICH AND SPECIAL INTERESTS.  IGNORE THE BS AND HATE & SCARE MONGERING COVERING UP FOR THE LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM THE MCCAIN PALIN CAMPAIGN.  THEY'RE WHITE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MCCAIN'S NAME AND FACEYOU SHOULD BEHE'S RUN BEFORE AND LOST-TO "BUSH"!!!  WE NEED NEW AND WE NEED BARACK. IF YOU'RE DROWNING, DO YOU CARE WHAT COLOR THE PERSON IS THAT'S SAVING YOU???  USE YOUR HEAD, PEOPLEHE'S NOT GOING TO TURN US ALL INTO MUSLIMS!!!  FOR GOD'S SAKE, HE'S A CHRISTIAN BORN TO A WHITE WOMAN.  HE HAD A 50/50 CHANCE OF COMING OUT BLACK OR WHITE.  SO WHAT IF HE'S MORE BLACK THAN WHITE???  HE HAS REAL IDEAS AND HE REALLY WANTS TO TAKE ON THE HUGE TOTAL WORLD MESS THE UNITED STATES HAS CAUSED DUE TO BUSH AND OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.  WE NEED TO START OVER WITH OBAMA AND VOTE ALL OF THE GOOD OLE BOYS AND GIRLS OUT OF OFFICE. BARACK WILL CREATE JOBS HERE IN THE USA. MCCAIN WILL SEND THEM OVERSEAS.

October 13, 2008
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Is McCain going to cancel the government paid health insurance for Congress? Is he going to tax Congress for their health insurance? Will a $5000.00 tax credit take care of his healthcare? I say, Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

October 14, 2008
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Lou Dobbs and Fox News check out the rethoric they are spewing,because of hidden hatered as many others if they be truthful. Too Bad Mccain not gonna win this time. ha ha ha ha

October 14, 2008
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This is to all the Latinos/Hispanic Americans.  If you vote for McCain because you don't like a Black man, you may as well pack your illegal family members backs and get them ready for deportation.  It's a sure bet that McCain and Palin will put all illegal immigrants on the first thing smoking back to your country.  Now, I'm not saying that Obama will grant you the leniency to break laws, but at least he his willing to listen and find ways to minimize sending all of you back to your home country.  Just my opinion (JMO)

October 14, 2008
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McCain chose Palin because he knew he was going to lose.  At least by making a bad choice he can blame her for his demise.  If he really wanted to win, he should have chosen someone more qualified than Palin.  Perhaps Palins next job should be an interview on Saturday Night Live as a comedian, she's doing well their even if it's Tina Fey.

October 16, 2008
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I was wondering how we could elect someone into office if he does not acknowledge the pledge of alligance or salute the american flag? Now I have enlisted into the Army National Guard but I am not sure that I can respect a Commander in Chief(if it so happens that he gets elected) that don't respect OUR flag and for which it stands. I'm sorry if this offends others but thats how I feel.

October 16, 2008
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I was wondering how we could elect someone into office if he does not acknowledge the pledge of alligance or salute the american flag? Now I have enlisted into the Army National Guard but I am not sure that I can respect a Commander in Chief(if it so happens that he gets elected) that don't respect OUR flag and for which it stands. I'm sorry if this offends others but thats how I feel.

October 17, 2008
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"Palin's Hot!"  This is what my 25 year old said, "I am voting for Mc Cain."  "You can't vote for someone based on there looks," I said. ( a 45 year old mother of three, my youngest 18, and a long life republican).  I am not trying to justify myself, but in my shadow i look like a hypocript.  I have made myself watch 1 hour of cnn every night, for the last month, because I wanted to make an educated decision, alas I am stumped.  The one thing I have decided is that I am going to vote... I don't really know who, but I am definetly going to vote  all the incumbants in congress, that has caused this mess OUT!! When it comes to casting my vote for president...you will hear the coin drop...heads is for my original party Mccain,..tails will be for Obama...i am not a hypocript.  WINNER TAKE ALL...From one of the last middle class republicans in Missouri!!

October 18, 2008
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we should have all known from the beginning when mr. bush could not take the inaugural parade and had to swear in behind a wall of armed guards while the inauguration was being protested that nothing good was around the corner.

 

                  and when people look back hundreds of years from now in their history books at this moment in time they will see the mark that the bush regime has run as a black mark on american history which has brought abought the downward spiraling of one of the most powerful, influencial, and wealthiest nations that had ever graced the earth. in short the man who had brought the beginning of the end to the people of the earth.

 

             and if the lord christ were to return to the earth with the authority and sanctioning by the anointing of the almighty himself to usher in a new government of a one world nation and overall peace, prosperity, and stability to all the people in this world. whose government would have more power and authority? and if you didn't agree with his views or ideas what could you do?

October 26, 2008
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I read this the other night on Obama, and I have a major concern on his ties with Ayers.Please read and tell me what you think?

www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org Date: 10/24/2008 9:15:13 PM

“The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men.” Samuel Adams 1775

 

People hang out who share the same belief system as they do. Makes sinse?

Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Beware.

This is not just guilt by association, as the leftists say in dismissing Wright, Ayers, Rezko, and so forth. This is guilt of association. He sought out and chose these people as helpers in the advancement of his political career and material well-being.

 

Obama, Ayers, Black Panthers, Weathermen, ACORN, Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger, Annenburg Challenge, Khalid al-Mansour, Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky … the pieces all fit together quite nicely as more and more information comes out.

*1987 William Ayers meets Barack Obama

*1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education

*1988 Michelle Obama works at Sidley & Austin lawfirm with Bernadine Dohrn

*1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama);

  Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

*1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

*1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

*1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

*2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community         organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.

*2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “eight years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. Is this a lie. - I don't know check the dates above?????

 

Ayers kept bombing things and attempting the kill people until 1974 or ‘75, when Obama was 13, not 8. But it doesn’t matter that Ayers’ crimes happened when Obama was young — It matters that Obama associated with him when they were both adults.

Let’s say, that Hitler survived the war, and I spent my time chumming around with him. And if people said I was staining my character by associating with Hitler, could I believably say, “Oh heck, Adolf hasn’t killed anyone in years! I wasn’t even born yet when he was a mass murderer. Let’s put the past behind us.”

And claiming Ayers is innocent simply because he weaseled out of a conviction on a technicality, then vote for Obama. Ayers himself said he was “guilty as hell.”  Read Prairie Fire, his communist manifesto? I suggest you do. The scales will fall from your eyes.

 

BILL AYERS - history and his ties with Obama

Leader of the 1960s and 70s domestic terrorist group Weatherman 

“Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”

Participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972

Currently a professor of education at the University of Illinois

 

Born in 1944, Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernardine Dohrn, was a 1960s leader of the homegrown terrorist group Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society. Characterizing Weatherman as “an American Red Army,” Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.”

 

Today Ayers is a professor of education and a Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois. He has also authored a series of books about parenting and educating children, including: A Kind and Just Parent; To Become a Teacher; City Kids; City Teachers; To Teach; The Good Preschool Teacher; Zero Tolerance: Resisting the Drive for Punishment in Our Schools; and Teaching Towards Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom.

 

In his 2001 screed, Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical, his tenure as a Weatherman lieutenant, his terrorist campaign across America, and his enduring hatred for for the United States. “What a country,” Ayers said in 2001. “It makes me want to puke.”

 

Ayers was an active participant in Weatherman's 1969 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago, where nearly 300 members of the organization employed guerrilla-style tactics to viciously attack police officers and civilians alike, and to destroy massive amounts of property via vandalism and arson; their objective was to further spread their anti-war, anti-American message. Reminiscing on those riots, Ayers says pridefully: “We'd ... proven that it was possible -- we didn't all die, we were still there.”

 

A substantial portion of Ayers’ book Fugitive Days discusses the author's penchant for building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972.” Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers says, “Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.”

 

On another occasion, Ayers stated: “There’s something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down.”

 

All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S.  "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."

 

In 1970, Ayers’ then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, “tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too.”

 

After the death of his girlfriend, Ayers and his current wife, Bernardine Dohrn, spent the 1970s as fugitives running from the FBI.

In 1974 Ayers co-authored --along with Dohrn, Jeff Jones, and Celia Sojourn -- a book titled Prairie Fire. This book contained the following statements:

 

"We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men ... deeply affected by the historic events of our time in the struggle against U.S. imperialism."

 

"Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside."

"The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war."

"Revolutionary war will be complicated and protracted. It includes mass struggle and clandestine struggle, peaceful and violent, political and economic, cultural and military, where all forms are developed in harmony with the armed struggle."

 

"Without mass struggle there can be no revolution.

Without armed struggle there can be no victory."

"We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, seize power and build the new society."

 

"Our job is to tap the discontent seething in many sectors of the population, to find allies everywhere people are hungry or angry, to mobilize poor and working people against imperialism."

"Socialism is the total opposite of capitalism/imperialism. It is the rejection of empire and white supremacy. Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of the social system based on profit."

 

In 1980 Ayers and Dohrn surrendered to law-enforcement authorities, but all charges against them were later dropped due to an “improper surveillance” technicality -- government authorities had failed to get a warrant for some of their surveillance. Ayers’ comment on his life, as reported by Peter Collier and David Horowitz in their authoritative chapter on Weatherman in Destructive Generation, was this: “Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country.”  

 

Notwithstanding his violent past, Ayers today does not describe himself as a terrorist. “Terrorists destroy randomly,” he reasons, “while our actions bore ... the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate.”

In Fugitive Days, Ayers reflects on whether or not he might use bombs against the U.S. in the future. “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility,” he writes.

 

In the mid-1990s, Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn hosted meetings at their Chicago home to introduce Barack Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate.

In 1995 Ayers -- whose stated educational objective is to “teach against oppression” as embodied in “America’s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation” -- founded a “school reform organization” called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC). He appointed Obama as the group's first chairman.

 

When National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz in 2008 reviewed the CAC archives at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois, he found that Ayers had been one of five members of a working group that assembled the initial CAC board which hired Obama.

“Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit,” Kurtz wrote. “No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.” According to Kurtz, the CAC archives show that Obama and Ayers worked as a team to advance the foundation's agenda -- with Obama responsible for fiscal matters while Ayers focused on shaping educational policy. The archived documents further reveal that Ayers served as an ex-officio member of the board that Obama chaired through CAC's first year; that Ayers served with Obama on the CAC governance committee; and that Ayers worked with Obama to write CAC’s bylaws.

 

A September 2008 WorldNetDaily report offers still more details: “Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Obama. Ayers also spoke for the Chicago School Reform Collaborative before Obama's board, while Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the collaborative … According to the documents, the CAC granted money to far-leftist causes, such as the radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which …has done work on behalf of Obama’s presidential campaign.”

WorldNetDaily reports further that “while Obama chaired the board of the CAC, more than $600,000 was granted to an organization founded by Ayers and run by Mike Klonsky, a former top communist activist. Klonsky was leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party, which was effectively recognized by China as the all-but-official U.S. Maoist party.”

 

In 1999 Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago, where he served as a director alongside Barack Obama until the latter left the Woods board in December 2002. Ayers went on to become Woods' Chairman of the Board. In 2002 the Woods Fund made a grant to Northwestern University Law School's Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn, was employed.

At a 2007 reunion of former members of the Weather Underground and Students for a Democratic Society, Ayers painted a verbal portrait of life in the United States which included the following passages:

 

"This is a time not only of great stress and oppression and authoritarianism, and a kind of rising incipient American form of fascism, and what the government counts on, what the powerful count on, is that we will stay quiet. It’s the idea that we can tolerate these intolerable things without screaming, without somehow coming out, joining up and coming out and saying something. It’s what they count on in terms of keeping things under control."

 

"Empire resurrected and unapologetic, war without end, an undefined enemy that’s supposed to be a rallying point for a new kind of energized jingoistic patriotism, unprecedented and unapologetic military expansion, white supremacy changing its form, but essentially intact, attacks on women and girls, violent attacks, growing surveillance in every sphere of our lives, on and on and on, the targeting of gay and lesbian people as a kind of a scapegoating gesture to keep our minds off of what’s really happening."

And here is how Ayers characterized himself and the longtime radical comrades to whom he was speaking:

"Even though we think of ourselves as political, we weren’t politicians. We were people who had a moral vision of what was possible. And when we talk, for example, about health care, about peace, we’re talking a language of ethics, not a language of instrumentalism or opportunism, or what we might get. So we have to speak in a language that’s large and generous and encompassing. And then we have to act."

 

Why is this important???

Barack Obama’s relationship with Weathermen founder William Ayers would reveal a great deal about the candidate’s character and values, if establishment journalists chose to tell the tale. 

But rather than investigate and expose the truth, many news organizations are merely parroting the Obama campaign’s main talking point, an obvious effort to defuse a political time bomb: the observation that the Democratic presidential nominee was 8 years old when the Weathermen were bombing the U.S. Capitol and Pentagon and killing police officers.

Of course, nobody is trying to connect Obama to the Vietnam-era bombings. The real issue is Obama’s values and judgment as an adult.  What will voters think about a presidential candidate who maintained a close working relationship for at least seven years, 1995-2002, with a man who described himself as a “small-c communist” and is still working diligently to radicalize Chicago’s schoolchildren? A man who was pictured – in Chicago Magazine in 2001 – treading on an American flag? A man who told the New York Times in 2001 that he regretted that he and his comrades didn’t set more bombs?

The ever-evolving Obama campaign stance about the Ayers relationship seems to change every time conservative journalists dredge up new information. Under other circumstances (if the candidate were not the media’s darling), the sharks in the establishment newsrooms would smell blood in the water.  Here’s the evolution:

Obama’s campaign first dismissed Ayers as just a casual acquaintance who lived in Barack’s neighborhood.  Then, when it became known that Obama knew Ayers at least as early as 1995, a spokesman suggested Obama didn’t realize at the time he was a former terrorist.  Next, as Obama’s close work with Ayers disbursing millions of dollars in Annenberg Challenge Grant funds to groups including ACORN was exposed, they said that Obama thought Ayers had been rehabilitated.

The Obama-Ayers relationship ought to be a mother lode for investigative reporters, but the establishment media seem satisfied to dig no deeper than the Obama campaign Web site.  Many news organizations have simply quoted or paraphrased campaign spokesmen, or the candidate himself, mouthing the denial.  A few examples:

 

The Washington Post quotes campaign spokesman Bill Burton:  “But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active…”

The Washington Post “fact-checker” column quotes Obama:  “…40 years ago when I was eight years old…”

The New York Times quotes Obama: “…40 years ago, when I was eight.”

A CNN “fact check” quotes Obama: …40 years ago, when I was eight years old…”

Associated Press reporter Brendan Riley:  “…carried out as Obama has said when he was 8.”

CBS/AP quotes Obama communications director Robert Gibbs:  “Barack Obama has condemned the attacks that happened when Barack Obama was 8 years old.”

Several reporters have gone even further, repeating the glib line as original reporting:

TIME magazine: “…in 1969, when Obama was eight years old.”

New York Daily News:  “…set off bombs when Obama was eight years old…”

AP’s Steven R. Hurst:  “He was eight years old when they occurred.”

AP’s Jim Kuhnhenn:  “Obama was eight years old at the time…”

AP’s Liz Sidoti: “Obama was eight years old when the Weather Underground…”

AP: “Weather Underground members were blamed for several bombings when Obama was a child.”

Reuters’s Mark Egan: “…when it was involved in a series of bombings in the 1960s, when Obama was eight years old.”

Reuters’s Jason Szep: “the group was involved in bombings in the 1960s, when Obama was 8 years old.”

 

In February, The Washington Post reported, incorrectly, that “the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one.”  Jump to October 3.  The New York Times, in an article headlined “Obama and ‘60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths,” reported that “Their paths have crossed sporadically” since Obama met Ayers in 1995, and “…the two men do not appear to have been close.”  You’d think nothing had come out in the preceding eight months.

The Buffalo News takes the cake in attempting to downplay Ayers’s significance: “…Weather Underground founder William Ayers, who was a radical when Obama was 8 years old.”

Was a radical???

If the News would bother to visit Professor Ayers’s office, they’d find pictures of three radical left icons hanging on the door: Castro’s pet mass murderer, Che Guevara; cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal; and Black Muslim supremacist Malcolm X.  At least they would have found them a week ago, when a Chicago Tribune reporter briefly spoke with Ayers.  The politically savvy Ayers might have hidden the evidence by now, just as Obama supporters have scrubbed Web sites to hide Obama’s affiliation with the New Party, a collection of Marxists, socialists and radicals who worked in the 1990s, under the auspices of Democratic Socialists of America, to move the Democratic Party to the left.  Obama was a New Party candidate in 1996.

That was when he was 35 years old.

November 2, 2008
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Give Me A Break for Something  More Serious!!

 

As a husband and father of children I find it shameful that no major news media has critically questioned nor analyzed the logic behind Gov. Sarah Palin’s conduct -keeping secret the fact that she was loosing amniotic fluid from her  a full-term pregnancy and continuing to prepare and fly nearly 10 hours from Texas to Anchorage, Alaska to have  her Downs Syndrome child few hours later.  

It has been reported that she got the go ahead from her doctor to proceed for the 8+ hours air travel time following admitted signs of imminent labor.  Is there a US -trained and certified doctor or any doctor in the civilized world that would make such authorization irrespective of previous pregnancy history?  

The facts are there: Sarah Palin intentionally wanted to have a still birth of a mongol (Downs Syndrome) child that could not have been aborted for political reasons as a state governor.  

Her seemingly callous and may be criminal intention is being rewarded with a GOP VP ticket and she has turned round to claim tributes as a pro-life GOP candidate when her intentions should have been the subject of public discourse.   The facts don’t add up.

What a pretentious and partisan lot we all are.  

 

KandyJ

November 30, 2008
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What I Deduce from the elections of recent in the u.s.a. is that in your country freedom & democracy is still alive and both the governing & thouse that wish to govern can investigate eachothers conduct & actions or inactions and speak about them without being arrested or imprissioned or worse still being economically cut out of system.

 

Last Thursday the Stazi Police who during the last election had "VOTE LABOUR" stickers attached to the emercency veichles STORMED the British Houses of PARLIAMENT;& searched the oppersitons offices and arrested a senior member of a party (conservatives(Rupublican)) in oppersition to the NAZI British Government,detained & interogated him for 9 hours they also bugged all his communications & used ANTI TERRORISIM LEGISLATION to do this,because he spoke of the facts that the RULEING Labour Party has been employing Illegal Immigrants;som of who had links to Known Terrorist Orginisations,(some of which are Legaly allowed to opperate in the u.k.;although outlawed in the u.s.a.) in the Home Office,that had access to sensitive data includion opperations of security and army officials of both the u.k. and u.s.a.

 

So the Conservative party member reported it,& GORDON BROWN SHIRT HAD HIS STAZI POLICE Storm Parliament & SILENCE HIM & ALL WHO SPEAK OUT AGAINST GORDONS DICATORSHIP.

 

This is just 1 thing that goes on in the u.k. and we all fed up with it,dont believe the polls,gordon controlls them;i have not met 1 person except active members of the ruling labour party,who happy with things here and everyone wants gordon to go or someone to kill him.

 

If things continue then there is going to be a REVOLUTION here in the u.k. and Gordon Brown will find himself hanging from the tower of london,perhaps.

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