Tuesday, February 24, 2009
iReport roundtable

We want to try something a little different on the blog and give you a chance to talk to us about iReport.com.

 

So if you've got an idea to make the site better, a problem or concern you want help with or questions about how team iReport does things leave a comment below and we'll answer as many as we can.

 

This is an experiment, so we don't know how it's going to go, but hopefully we can have a little fun.

 

Thanks for the great response. We'll do it again soon.

309 Comments
February 23, 2009

Why do some comments go missing even when there are no swear words in them, while other comments remain that are full of swear words and are so bad I wouldn't have a child read them?

February 23, 2009
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Hi everybody,

If you have a question, comment or complaint, you can post them in the comments below. I'll respond to as many as I can.

The newest comments go on the bottom, so scroll down to follow the conversation.

February 23, 2009

David (and the rest of the ireport.com Producers)

 

I think you folks have done a brilliant job in maintaining a brilliant site.

 

The star rating debate seems important, but I really want to say that I am extremely fond of the fact that we cannot delete comments, stories, and ratings once cast.

 

I like that we are forced to think twice before we post anything here. (because once sent, it is set in stone so to speak)

 

There is only one thing I can think of that could make the community experience better, and that would be to provide more information on who does what.

 

In other words, I beleive iReport.com can solve it's biggest complaint of users by making avialable to all on ireporters' personal profile pages not only all of the stories posted by the ireporter, but also make visible all of the ratings, commens, and views left by said ireporter.

 

I think if we were held acountable for our ratings and comments, some of these ireporter 'bandits' might think twice before they pull a hit and run on a fellow ireporters.

 

respectfully yours,

-Fred

February 23, 2009

Thanks for this david. Eager to see where it goes.

 

Sincerely,

 

RCC

 

(aka)TW

February 23, 2009
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@funnygirl11 -- We are looking at the comment moderation system. I do want to tell you that I read every comment that has been reported as a violation and then warn or remove users that are being abusive. So if you see something that you think violates our community guidelines, please flag it.

February 23, 2009
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The star system is flawed to begin with.  Why are the criteria that people are using to generate these “stars”?  If you like the piece from a newsworthy standpoint?  If you agree with its slant?  If you like/dislike the IReporter?  There is no way to truly ascertain this difference is what is driving the ratings.  With Amazon or similar consumer sites, the rationale behind ratings is more universal and agreed upon, yet still flawed.  I say eliminate it all together and one problem is solved.

February 23, 2009
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@FredThorne -- Thanks for the feedback on the comments, the permanence of it hadn't occurred to me, that's food for thought.

Making the rating system and comments more transparent is something we will consider. It sounds like a good idea, but don't know if there are unintended consequences. It would also take some programming work, so I don't know how long it would take.

February 23, 2009
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@TheWarden -- Welcome back, we're also interested to see how it will go.

February 23, 2009
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Why do I have such a hard time getting the spacing right in between paragraphs.  It's very aggravating to have to keep going in to try and fix it. Sometimes I just give up.  Am I doing something wrong?

February 23, 2009

Hi David!

Thanks for this opportunity-I am sure that you have seen the comments left prior to this open forum and the star rating system seems to be a big issue with many.  Is this something that has to stay?  There is so much real talent on here and I wonder what real purpose the star rating serves.  I think it is very telling about a particular post, if it generates a lot of comments, that stay on topic.

Thanks

Ann

February 23, 2009
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ok, so the other blog isn't being moderated, correct?

February 23, 2009
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@Picco -- The star system has been a source of frustration for some users, but it does give the community a chance to focus attention on stories they think are interesting.

That can be because they agree with the political slant, or think it's a compelling story, or whatever criteria they choose.

I think it's important to note that the ratings don't really influence which stories are approved for use on CNN.

Our producers really scour the site to find content and try to approve as many of them as we can.

February 23, 2009

Thanks for the reply David. So a comment can get deleted even if it doesn't have swear words in it as long as some hits the violation button? So if people gang up on someone it can get deleted like I have read that some people indeed do? One time I was on a post where a guy was saying every sexual thing in the book for over an hour and nothing got deleted and I kept pressing the violation button. It was disgusting.

February 23, 2009
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@David

I see.  Well as long as the “meaning” behind a rating is left open for individual interpretation, the potential for it to be abused is there.

February 23, 2009
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thanks david for taking feedback. I have expressed my opinion on various occassions about my opposition to any censorship, except if someone poses a physical threat. I am in the minority I believe but I want to see everything in the raw. I like the idea of an ignore function, so people can chose not to read certain comments.

The star system isn't very important to me, but if it could truely reflect a good post, I'm all for it.

February 23, 2009
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@rosehips -- That's correct, I just put a note over there to let folks know. Thanks for the heads up.

February 23, 2009

I was interested in knowing what you and team thought of the star, or no star suggestion?

 

Are these star rankings tied into how superstar ratings are acquired and their placement?

 

What are the budget constraints on all of this?

 

I could get a better feel as to what could actually be done and what couldn't.

February 23, 2009
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@rose

I like that idea of things in the raw, but is this the appropriate venue for that?  As this is conceivably a more legitimate, “neutral” site as opposed to a personal blog.  As such I am sure CNN does not want to leave itself open to anything untoward (aka lawsuit).  I like the ignore option a great deal, but don’t we already have that option as individuals?

February 23, 2009

I agree with rosehips, the less censorship the better, within your stated terms of use. As for the star system, I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's really no big deal.

February 23, 2009
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@funnygirl11 -- Our system hides comments once they've reached a certain threshold so that they can be reviewed for violations of the community guidelines. We are working to improve the system.

February 23, 2009

Make it like Myspace where you can block people who harrass you.

February 23, 2009
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Well, this is not about my returning to ireports- I’m sure you do not care and not the point of this discussion. However, from one who was one reports since last June or so, I’m taking a break from the ugly tireades.

 

I appreciate CNN’s removal of offensive (primarily racist) posts and comments. I have been pretty saddened by the stuff I have seen in that regard. Call me naïve, but I honestly did not think that was as common s it appears to be.  I also personally think it is not polite to take the post form one reporter, use the same graphic and gin up a new post. I find it more useful to have reporters post new information and new graphics.

 

 

-I find it disingenuous when an ireporter always wants to know who is doing what (who is the one star banditry, etc.) – what difference does it make?  If CNN rally needs to know because they have a concern- that is fine but they should not be telling me who is rating my post how and why. Or perhaps we should do away with the stars all together. I frequently tell the poster when I rate them, but hwy should they care? More often than not it is a high mark 

 

And finally- thanks for letting those of who are typing-challenged post.

February 23, 2009

Reward good bloggers with gift cards. I will take one from Best Buy. I desperately need a new camera. LOL

February 23, 2009
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ldk

David - I understand why you have the star system but some folks get too wrapped up in it and hang too much "pride" on how many stars their posts get.  Hence, when they get low ratings they tend to get upset and start looking for reasons to criticize those that gave them one-star ratings.  I'd like to see the star rating go away unless that scuttles the way you guys move articles around in the top level categories like "newsiest."  How bout a thumbs up or down maybe or no rating at all.

February 23, 2009

I've seen alot about a "Freedom of Speech" issue around here as well. I'm not sure if this question is completely on topic, but hope so.

 

Is it not a truism to say, that private sites -- like iReport -- can make whatever rules they see fit and "Freedom of Speech" has little to do with the legallity of it all? I've made a few of these sites and thought I had it down from all the lawyers I've talked to through the years, But, I'm becoming uncertain at this point.

February 23, 2009
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@rosehips -- We are definitely against censorship, as long as the posts do not violate our community guidelines or the terms of use. Things like hate speech and threats can't be tolerated.

We try to encourage members of the community to regulate themselves so that it will be an enjoyable experience for everyone.

February 23, 2009
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Hi Warden- loved that last post- good to see you here. I've been taking a break as well after the 'silliness', but on here till we have to go back in  the field today.

February 23, 2009
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Too many motives, and ways around the rating system for it's effect to be valuable. Suggestions listed above, additional suggestions, News Clippers, heading, for those who insist on posting outside source material without a story, in addition to placing a color on the posters tag as suggested, tally the total of ratings and place the average on the posters Bio (if you keep the star system). Expand site to offer IM capability for those who just cannot get their point across without an argument, (security problems). Allow the posters to have a tag line of what group/tribe/political party they are affiliated with, this might focus the "arguments" to their party line defenses. Reward new's, reward opinion, break the two out. Quantify Newisest?

February 23, 2009
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ldk

I agree with yorksnbeans.  Using the editor to develop posts is difficult and for me trial and error.  Any way to make it better would be much appreciated.

February 23, 2009

rosehips - I'm with you. I like it in the raw. Unnedited, Unfiltered.

 

There is no other site like this one, and there is no need (from my POV) to change or try to fix a good thing.

 

A lot of folks compare this site to youtube and others when complaining about it. But, I don't like those sites, I do not freqent or use those sites for the exact same argument people want this site cookiecuttered into sublime assimilation.

 

If you want youtube, go to youtube.

 

iReport.com is a phenomena because it is different and egdy. The Warden mentioned budget constraints. I think that is a keystone. Why throw pragramming time and money at a potentially backfiring attempt to apease petty bickering when in reporgramming there lies the potential for sterilization of this diverse hub of cutting edge coolness?

 

I will outwardly weap if this place turns into youtube.

February 23, 2009
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@ Picco, well people need to follow the guidelines of course. I don't think cnn really wants to become enforcers. I think people need to make sure that the post or comment is really breaking the rules before they flag it. Taking someone else's graphic may seem shabby to some, but it isn't against any rule, that I'm aware of. You lose your rights to it when you post it. I think people are wasting time whining over petty things.

 

If someone is a perpetual flagger, they should be flogged. lol.

February 23, 2009
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@TheWarden -- The ratings system does play a part of the Newsiest formula along with freshness, popularity and activity. But as I said, it's just one part of the formula.

February 23, 2009
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NOTE: suggestions listed in previous announcement to this blog by numerous sources appear to have a lot of value and I do hope  those posts will be taken into consideration along with this blog's posts?

February 23, 2009
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ldk

David - Re Warden's FOS comment, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think IReport is a private site since it's directly accessible and indirectly visible to anyone browsing the CNN site.

February 23, 2009

Right on FredThorne!

February 23, 2009
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This may be unfair, but I sense that if some reporters knew who gave them low stars or a thumbs down, they would attack them for that just as they attack them for a comment that does not agree with thier post now. I think that could be one of the "unintended consequences" your suggested.

February 23, 2009
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@rosehips

Good points.  The flogging one 2...  lol

February 23, 2009
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@davidw, thanks. I'm glad to hear you want to maintain the unfiltered and unedited elements.

@fred...agree with you, of course.

great to see the warden and neranger!

February 23, 2009
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@rosehips, OCGirl -- We've talked about having an ignore feature or the ability to block people from commenting on your posts. I agree that it would stop some complaints of abuse, but I fear that it could prevent some really interesting conversations because people weren't able to participate.

February 23, 2009

Can't you limit star ratings to one per IP address?

February 23, 2009
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I'm getting way behind, which is awesome because this is a great conversation. Bear with me though.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Everyone - why dont we hold up on discussion until David tells us he's caught up?

February 23, 2009
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Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. Also, since CNN iReports is a private site and not a governmental site, if they choose to do XYZ, it's not censorship per se, it's community guidelines. Violate them and go home. If, as was said in the other section we were posting on, the star system will not go away, then I would like to see the rating of people who did rate it. I have zero problem with anyone seeing how I rated a post. Also, unless you leave a post on the report, I don't think you should be allowed to rate it. That might stop some of the "one and run" people.

February 23, 2009
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@david...well if the ignore would only block the ignorer from seeing it and they had the option to unignore it wouldn't be so bad, but I agree it would compromise the content of the conversation.

hi to funnygirl, oc and all others!

February 23, 2009

that is a great idea jeffpickens-if there has to be a star rating thing!

February 23, 2009
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Hey, I thought this blog was to also answer questions about any problems users are experiencing not just the comment and rating issue.  I never received an answer to my question.

February 23, 2009
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David- I agree- these are not op- ed pieces- they are reporters for folks to comment on in a variety of ways. It would be difficult to keep the flavor of the free speech while allowing reporters to block those who not agree with them and only allow their buddies.

I agree with others that rather than identifying who is giving what ratings to whom, I say get rid of the star system all together before you do that.

February 23, 2009
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@DavidW

Feel free to not reply to me, I am more than ok with just throwing my random little bits into the general discussion.

February 23, 2009
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NERanger -- Welcome back first of all.

I agree that making the stars public could cause problems. That's part of the reason we move a little slowly because we don't want to create new problems.

I do think it would be great if more people put more information in their profiles. I think it's harder for folks to be mean to a real person.

February 23, 2009
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can you register more than one account from the same ip address?

 

@davidw: Someone pointed out that there are some posts that have more ratings than views. How is this possible? I can give you an example off the forum.

February 23, 2009

Deleting past comments, A Politicians Dream.

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

I like the idea of no star rating system, or just a one star rating. If the reader likes the post rate with one star, or do not rate at all.

As long as someone can rate down a post they will for one reason or another.

I would also like to see the requirements for the Superstar status changed OR be done away with all together.

If it is kept, I would like to see the rules required to make superstar posted somewhere and not just "Activity on the site"

It is crazy that only a commenter with no posts of their own can achieve superstar IF they have only harassed caused strife and vulgarity on the site.

A reporter should have "so many posts" before they are considered a superstar. A one time mega hit wonder should not qualify(In my opinion)

Original posts, photos and videos should be considered, not cut and paste web stories.

Someone that has taken the time to write an original story, take photos and video are ireporters not a copy and paste artist.

In the beginning we all had to earn superstar status, really earn it. It was an honor, now it seems to be a curse to be on the front page or in the top 30. It appears to be a joke and we are most often targeted.

Some are put down because we do not all have headline news articles, or our posts are not worthy because they are not politically motivated.

The travel, off beat, nature and fun posts are considered a waste of time by some.

I feel it needs to be made clear that all original posts, photos and videos have the possibility for CNN vetting no matter the subject( as long as it is legal)

not JUST headline news topics.

The majority of us are not professional journalists, photographers or reporters, that is the beauty of iReport. It gives the average person a chance.

Civil debate always a good thing.

Personal attacks and hate mongering racism absolutely not.

Thanks for hearing all of us.

February 23, 2009
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Ryn - I think I agree with every single thing you wrote. May I just say

Amen!

February 23, 2009

rose; In my office, several people can access the same IP network at one time, dozens upon dozens in fact. I don't know how any system could disinguish between those dozens -- especially networks set up to disguise the multitudes -- as it shows as 1 as far as I know.

February 23, 2009
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OK David- point taken- I'll put more than just my blood type on my profile. Geez! but I do live  in Smalltown.

February 23, 2009

@rosehips-the only problem with that IP issue I see, what if more than one family member uses the same computer?

February 23, 2009

NERanger - people who care about what they say, and mean what they say will have no problem with retaliatory flamewar behavior.

 

The only reason I can immagine someone here wouldn't want transparency is to cover up thier own activities?

 

BUT if you cannot deny your petty activities because it is in boldface on your profile page, I foresee the perpetrators of the past thinking twice before they pull a hit and run.

 

no?

 

But like I have stated, I like it the way it is.

And I can live with it just the way it is.

I fear sterilization. This site is too cool to turn it into myspace.

February 23, 2009

david; star or no star? thoughts?

February 23, 2009
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@yorksnbeans -- Hi, this is to answer any issues that come up. I'm just a little slow. One thing that might help with the formatting is to use the "plain text" tab in the description box instead of the "rich text" one.

If that doesn't work, shoot me a PM and I'll try to help you figure it out.

February 23, 2009
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okay, warden. I get it. You really can't limit it then.

February 23, 2009
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There should be a two account limit for any ip address. If you want more, you'd have to go another household or business to do so.

February 23, 2009
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david - If the star system will be staying, how about only allowing those who actually leave a respose be able to rate? Oh, and Ryn...well said.

February 23, 2009

In agreement with rosehips (Hi!) and FredThorne, keep it the way it is and don't sterilize it. One needs a thick skin to post on here. Remember, it's only words.

February 23, 2009
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agree with fred. no to sterilization. no to watered down dialogue. Yes to free expression (within safe limits).

February 23, 2009

I was on the wrong page..I was on the comments of the blog..

February 23, 2009

@Ryn- Very well said!

February 23, 2009

What happened to my comments from last night?...I do not like having to type the same stuff over again..lol. Ok, I'll stop whinning.

 

David...you rock...thank you and CNN for this format. I see nothing wrong with it and hope you change nothing.

February 23, 2009

yorks; Google has 1 IP, I don't think that could work. But then again, I'm no expert and could not offer an expert opinion.

February 23, 2009
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Davidw,

 

Why not do away with the star system because people give stars based on their personal politics not if it's a good report or not?

 

Or just make it positive only, You give a star or you don't.

February 23, 2009
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thanks david!  I haven't tried that.  I'll see if it makes a difference.

February 23, 2009
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Fred, I fear sterilization too and would not welcome it, at the same time there has to be some way to rid the site of the grossly offensive and personal attacks. I personally like the "Report violation" tab and have used it maybe 7-8 times in the past 6 months.

February 23, 2009
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MAB- Hi- I would ask that you think about this if we did it the way you suggest:

I frequenlty look at a lot of good posts quickly and appreciate them either for their humor, art, or informative content. I do not feel a need to comment on them all but like to leave a good rating for them.  I would prefer to not have to leave a comment before giving a reporter 5 stars which I frequently do. I would be hapopy to give them a star or no star as well.

February 23, 2009

I don't think the agreeing to disagree is the big problem here..It is the personal attacks being done no matter what side of the political forum you belong to or do not belong to. It gets personal and ugly!

February 23, 2009

Sorry for the double post. It took me 6 mths. to figure out that you could rate a story, I really had no interest in rating and to this day have never rated a story (scouts honor). I actually agree with mab91c, I think there should be a screen name with the rating, since there seems to be so much concern about it. I also agree that you should not be able to delete comments or change parts of your story once posted but hey I'm just a critic.

February 23, 2009

funnygirl; if thick skin is a personal requirement, then many will also be lost to that prerequisite of character I would tend to believe

February 23, 2009
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David- do you get a "superstar' rating if you get enough replies here?

Just kidding!

February 23, 2009
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@Ryn -- The superstar formula is something that we look at to try to make it more interesting and useful. I know that a lot of people don't like the fact that people can become a superstar because of their comments, even though they haven't posted an iReport.

I understand the feeling, but comments are a valuable part of the experience here on iReport.com, so we do want to encourage people who might not be willing, or able to post an iReport.

Abusive comments are another issue altogether. Please report violations you may see and I'll check them out.

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

Thanks guys!

I was hesitant in saying anything as it has been said so many times before.

Glad it made sense to others besides myself.

February 23, 2009

I don't agree with revealing raters of a post.  It's bad enough some people will attack you for saying "I disagree!"

February 23, 2009
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@rosehips, TheWarden, jeffpickens -- More than one user can create accounts from the same IP address. We have had several cases were roommates, husbands and wives, or coworkers are on iReport.com.

We don't want to discourage this, but we do monitor it for abuse.

February 23, 2009

Ok, I am out.

 

Great blog, Thanks, David W.

 

see you folks in the trenches.

 

P E A C E !

February 23, 2009

gilldreams » I have a problem with the foul language attacks etc because a person has taken time and effort to put up a post and to have people on there screaming using large bold colored fonts, foul language, personal attacking the author and the others on the post commenting is just so insulting to the person who did the post! To me there needs to be an automatic delete of the person's comments if using foul language or racist comments, and for the attacks of the author or other people commenting, the person who did the post can have the option of deleting the troll like comments is that simple at all?? or too much work technically?? It is all getting to be rediculous..

this is from the other blog page with all the comments re: to be a star..

February 23, 2009
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I did not know that about superstar status and its potential link to comments.  Thank God for my thesarus, lol.

February 23, 2009
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@KarmaHD -- Yes, I'm looking at all of those suggestions and we are continually looking at our wish list for ways to make the community better. You've made some really good suggestions that we're looking at.

February 23, 2009

gilldreams » The stars are only the tip of this iceburg. There are other things that go with this action being done by someone or a group..just do away with it..I would be more concerned about the abusive language personal attacks and name calling on the posts. Can something technical be done about that too? I do not believe that calling people names, attacking the author of posts and using abusive language on this site comes under the freedom of speech..does it? To me it's abusing that freedom on a website where thousands of people from all over the world read these posts and use this website. People seem to be only into if you are on this side or that side of the political world and it is desruptive to anyone having a different opinion on either of the parties..you get called names and then attacked on any post you go to..These people follow others around the site causing problems..for everyone

February 23, 2009
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Thank you good luck, you do have a big big job..

February 23, 2009

I believe that we should also be able to remove comments that only serve to personally attack the poster.  Some individuals will make comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the post, but everything to do with the poster!  That's not a debate.  It's also not a disagreement.  It's a nasty, personal attack!

February 23, 2009
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David- WE ahve all (hopefully) read all thee guildlines, but what do you see as the most common "abusive comment?"

February 23, 2009

Just so everyone knows...you are baited into commenting on a thread by the use of the "personal attack" method some ireporters use...CNN can not control opinions or manitpulative ireporters that want a high comment count on their thread...this is why there are conversations on threads as well...the comment count makes your story easy to find on most commented...thats how I look for who is talking and who isn't...I go to most commented and view the top stories...they get to the top by being controversial...some ireporters take it to far....this area is the easiest to manipulate your story to the top.

February 23, 2009

You are always going to have problems with personal attacks and verbal abuse when you have an unmoderated open forum. How about posting the community guidelines and terms of service more prominently, rather then in tiny fine print links at the bottom of the page?

February 23, 2009
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NERanger - I appreciate your comments and I understand about reading someone post quickly and moving on. However, I do feel it would help stem the "one and run" crowd. There are many reports that I read and give 4 or 5 stars to and just leave a "Nice job" or "Nice report" to without a long, drawn-out discussion. It only takes a few seconds to do so. Just a thought. I'm happy with whichever way it goes.

February 23, 2009
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@funnygirl11, TheWarden -- I do think that people have to expect some criticism when they post or comment on the site, but my hope is that that criticism would be constructive.

Things like "you video would be better if you'd done it with the sun in your face instead of behind you," would be very helpful.

I think abusing, mocking or berating people for poor spelling, grammar or photography skills isn't helpful.

February 23, 2009

Thank you David for this time- some questions have been answered for me.

February 23, 2009
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MAB- thanks, you are probably right. I do write a short 2-3 word comment along woith the rating sometimes but could do it each time if needed. Call me lazy. Sorry.

February 23, 2009

David; One last question.

 

Is there anything at all that has been decided upon from the iReport team to do that's been implimented as far as functional changes to concerns? Or are you folks still going through it all?

February 23, 2009
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I like the "tag" thing, but can you also offer another level of placement with categories such as Political, Environmental, Science, Entertainment, Humor, etc.

February 23, 2009

I would like to see that star rating system gone! It serves no purpose at all. I would much rather see you have an automatic count done on the number of comments made on the posts. The comments are what drives the system isn't it? stars have proven to be faulty as no matter what post do or visit..the one star bandit has been there, which tells me someone has the capability to be doing this to everyone! Not a good feeling at all.

I would also like to see multiple ID's gone too. Why would anyone need more than one ID? unless they are part of the group causing a lot of problems on the posts. One ID per person..With the technology these days I'm sure this can be accomplished.

I think the removal of certain people from this site, gvscmr and allowing others who continue to cause problems to stay is wrong.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

I'm a very big supporter of free speech and have spent most of my adult life defending the Constitution.  I dont like it always, but FOS is what lets us have the iReport site to begin with and also is what lets people burn the flag, bash presidents, governors, and even attack me and you verbally.  Someone said back in the forum that we need to grow thicker skin.  Yes, I agree.  If we consider ourselves "journalist" in a loose sense of the word then we need to expect criticism, sometimes severe.

February 23, 2009
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Hey David- you are my superstar now! yea guys! give me a break on the typing!! _ couldn't resist.

February 23, 2009
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Heck, NERanger, I forget to rate at times too...we're all human here (I think) and last time I looked none of us had holes in our hands and feet.

February 23, 2009

would also like to see a faster response to ridding posts of the nastiest comments I have ever seen in my life on a website! cursing, personal attacks on the authors of the posts. It has gotten way out of control. How quickly after the flagging of a very nasty comment, and I am not talking about bantering back and forth comments. I mean the most disgusting evil you can imagine being contantly spewed out directed at the person who put up the post. The people that do this don't even read the post..they just see who did the post and attack! It I hope will stop. This site is a great place and I have enjoyed it for the last 5 1/2 months. I hope it will get even better with a few minor changes to the site.

One ID per person

People with no profile at all, no commenting on posts, viewing only and that can be a separate count as well.

Get rid of the star rating system

Use Comments as the count

Thanks David Williams for the time you are spending on this dilema. I hope things will improve soon.

February 23, 2009
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davidw -

Have any changes or modifications to iReport been decided on? Are any of the changes past the initial planning stages?

 

If so what changes can we expect to see in the near future?

February 23, 2009
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@Davidw: Curious, I post alot on Saturdays and try to get my stories in on a timely manner to coordinate with the assignments.  I've noticed only a few Post (not referring to mine) make ON CNN status on Saturdays.  Do you have a limited staff on weekends?  Thanks, nycscripts

February 23, 2009
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David- thanks for the discussion- back with the crew to the trenches for me. Good luck. I'll check back this eveningto read more comments.

February 23, 2009
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@gilldreams -- I agree that personal attacks, insults and flame wars are one of the biggest problems on the site. I think it discourages some people from participating and it makes the experience less enjoyable for a lot of people.

 

There are two things that you can do to help with this problem: 1) Report violations -- I read every flagged comment. I'm behind with this weekend's posts because I've been preparing for this, but I will read them today.

I may not remove every comment, but I will see if the commenter needs to be warned, or in extreme cases removed.

 

2) Don't take the bait, feed the trolls, or whatever you want to call it.

February 23, 2009

personally...I have no idea how a person could have time to utilize several personalities...it is difficult and time consuming with just one. That being said...the comment count is the key to the abuse...I believe there are several ireporters who use 2 or 3 personalities to boost comment counts in their threads and make it unfair for the honest ireporter to reach a number 1 statis...and if they do it is for only one day and then it is gone.

February 23, 2009
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How do we regulate one's perception of a personal attack?  It is a slippery slope.    Some see disagreeing as a personal attack.

February 23, 2009

ldk

I agree if they are criticizing your story.  I don't agree with personal attacks that have nothing to do with the story!  Especially if you've had no contact or discussion with the attacker!  I don't feel people have the right to question your personal integrity or party affiliation.  They don't know you.  However, fire away at the story and even the credibility of the story and sources!

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

I like that idea yorksnbeans.

Not everyone enjoys human interest posts, not everyone likes all the political rhetoric.

It would be nice to use those tags.

February 23, 2009
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David, first of all, you guys in Prod. do a great job and thanks for taking the time to write the blog(s) too and ask us.

 

IMHO, these things:

 

1. I agree w/yorknbeans about the editing process- maybe the editor needs an upgrade - I usually go to simple text and edit there and then space on rich text but it's a little tedious.

 

2. Star rating system should perhaps take a hike LOL... or somehow at least, make it visible to where whoever rates you, you can see who it is and a non-optional explanation of why you rated this way would be good too.

 

3. drop down menu for why you are flagging someone (spam, racism, foul language or inappropriate image, etc) and next to that flag, the name of who flags it.

 

After all, why hide our identities- this way every thing is CRYSTAL clear :)

 

and now I have to go - I am not feeling at all well today

 

Janet (janmarbol)

February 23, 2009
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ldk - Constructive critism, even severe at times, is not the problem. The problem arises when the critism goes from constructive to destructive, IMO. I am not a journalist, and looking at the current crop of so called journalist out there, I do not want to be. Now, if we had more like Murrow, Cronkite, and Woodword...fine. You all know the bottom line though is to just not go to the sites where you will be personally attacked. That would stop 90% of these comments.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Lette, I agree but I still believe that FOS even applies to those that engage in personal attacks.  I dont like it but its hard enough to define free speech much less try to figure out how to "regulate" it.  I like the way mab put it -- freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequences.

February 23, 2009
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@jeffpickens -- Thanks for the feedback on the community guidelines. It probably would be a good idea to make it more prominent.

February 23, 2009

Oh yea.....and lets put video and pictures separate....dumping everything into one central location is not the best place for people who actually put forth an effort into their reports, instead of people just copying and pasting pictures or words.

 

It would be nice to be able to get political views out to the masses without having to be in competition with who was the best and worst dressed at the Oscars.

 

The two just do not go together.

 

And the more people you have posting on this site, the more good reports are going to be burried behind some fluff peice or picture of someones back yard.

 

I would offer up this.

 

Each story has once choice on where to put it.

 

You Choose 1 of the 4 sections for your story

World News

US News/Crime

Politics/Business

Entertainment/Health/Tech/Travel/Living

 

HOLD ON.....I am Copying this FROM CNN.

 

What a great idea.

 

If you place I-Reports into these same buckets as you have on your home page you will find that you will have a lot less random people clicking on stories which they have no interest in.

 

Like I would never purposely go into the Entertainment Bucket, because I really dont care what goes on in Hollywood.  But yet I am exposed to it on a daily basis because everthing gets dumped into one central location.

 

I could keep all my comments and ratings in stories which I dont have to fight through 50 I-reports of stuff which I dont want to see.

 

thanks

February 23, 2009
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Well, great comments all, but I have a meeting to get to. Thank you very much to davidw and all at CNN. I appreciate the site and all of your hard work.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

mab - well put.  i agree, but there are those on ireport that really (IMO) think they are journalist.

February 23, 2009

David - I do not envy you your job

February 23, 2009

OK David; Best of luck with all. Take care

February 23, 2009

Picco

Personal attacks that have nothing to with the post:

  • You're an idiot

  • You're a liar.  You're don't ____ for a living!

  • You're not a Republican

  • You're a weasel

 

Need more?  These I've seen without one single comment about the post itself!

February 23, 2009
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@takamine69 -- We are always looking for ways to make iReport.com better. We've got an awesome community with a lot of talented people, so we feel a strong responsibility to make it the best experience we can. We're also always looking for new ways to present the material that ya'll submit in creative and entertaining ways.

February 23, 2009

David, do you feel like the school principal? LOL

February 23, 2009
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@itlaco -- Please envy me my job. I love it! I get to talk to interesting and talented people all over the world every day. I also love iReport.com and believe strongly in what we're doing here. Admittedly, there are occasional frustrations, but my worst day here has been better than some of the best days at other jobs I've done.

February 23, 2009

I think the one star bandit is the school bully who never left the playground. lol

February 23, 2009
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also, I read a post yesterday that was upset with CNN.  They felt they are biased with their choices in receiving the "ON CNN" tag.  I commented that one pre-requisite for the report to receive that recognition was that it had to be an personal photo or video, not one used from the internet.  People are not aware of this important fact.  Maybe you should have a comment about that where you upload your image.

February 23, 2009

@italco - you're right, one personality is enough. Someone who uses mutiple IDs to post mulitple comments is someone with way too much time on their hands, and should be pitied.

February 23, 2009
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@Lette

Easy, I see what you are saying, those are clearly personal attacks and have no place here. I agree completely.

 

I also think with most of the IReports it is impossible to separate the writer from the story—after all it's not like these are truly objective reporting endeavors—some are, most are not. 

 

With subjective commentary will come some critique from me that hints at personal motives.  I would do it in person, so here is no different.  So when someone continually posts borderline racist rants I will refute the content but also attempt to educate about why such a perspective is viewed by some as racism.  I don’t deny there is a personal feel to it, but it is far from an attack.

February 23, 2009
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david,

 

What are your thoughts on ditching the 5 star system or at least going to a one star or nothing system?

February 23, 2009
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IREPORT TURNS INTO CHATROOM:  I joined Ireport during the election season, because I was led to believe by CNN that it was intended for amateur reporters w/a video camera to report the news or to convey a video message about current events or things that were of public interest.  Now it has turned into a cut & paste site of plagiarism & copyright infringements.   CNN Ireport obviously has been transformed into a chat rooms liken to facebook & myspace where ONLY friends or non-dissenting comments are allowed.  There’s are “Hatfeld & McCoy” feuds going on that are instigated & fueled by a band of ireporters who are trying to strong-arming CNN to bend to their will, at the expense of other ireporters protected rights.  In those Ireporters “chat rooms” there has been discussions that are not related to the NEWS, but instead they are discussion “meeting room” about specific ireporters

February 23, 2009

yorks

I've seen stories "ON CNN" that were not personal pictures.

February 23, 2009
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@mrfloridad -- If you go to our assignment page at iReport.com/desk, you'll find that our assignments are organized pretty much the way you described them.

iReport.com provides an opportunity for each member to share the news that's important to them -- that could be a burning high-rise in China, a zoning debate in Peoria, Illinois, or Anne Hathaway's dress at the Oscars.

We really don't want to limit the definition of news, because I can't tell you how many times we've gotten amazing stories that you might not consider "newsy."

February 23, 2009

I think if people are going to attack someone personally based upon their haircolor, and eyebrows. And... I have even been picked on because I change my profile picture a lot. I think the comments should be based upon the content of the story and that is it. If someone doesn't agree with me-that is ok.

February 23, 2009
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lette - you'll have to ask them about that one.  I have been told by CNN employees several times that they cannot use a pic that is not yours.

February 23, 2009

I wrote my last message too fast but I feel comments that are not relevant to the content should give the author the right to remove it. If people think they can get away with harrassing someone once-they will feel more empowered and not stop.

February 23, 2009
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@ldk -- We are private in the sense that we are not part of the government, so our Community Guidelines and Terms of Use are not a violation of freedom of speech.

We want the conversation to be as open and unrestricted as possible.

February 23, 2009

on the definition of "newsy" - I am still scratching my head over the number of views and comments the Girl Scout Cookie posts got; mine had over 9,000 views and 75 comments; rosehips post on the same topic got even more. Who knew that this would be a subject that would draw so much attention, light years more than anything else I have ever posted?

February 23, 2009
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I've got another one!  Why can't we, the user, delete a report we wrote if we so choose?

February 23, 2009
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Lette - While those comments are bad, they are mild compared to some. I have copied one below here (I have reported it for violation already). This is what I usually talk about on a personal attack from one iReporter to another; here goes (I apologize if this offends anyone else as it did me):

 

"oh and mommy you have got to be one of the most ignorant people on any blog i have ever seen-GO SCREW YOURSELF YOU IGNORANT BITCH."

 

That's the type of comments that need to go.

February 23, 2009

David - I suppose there is a little envy...I am here and It isn't my job...lol.

 

Has anyone ever been hired by CNN from the ireporter pool?....

February 23, 2009

yorks - for instance, there was one about the American cars.  Someone used the Back to the Future car.  There was also one on the social networking assignment!

February 23, 2009

David,

 

Thats fine, but they all get lumped into one location for people to view.

 

I agree....but you won't fine a story on Anne Hathaway's Dress on your CNN Politics Page.

 

However on I-Report today, I had to scroll through 50 pictues of the Oscars.

 

So I was being subjected to news stories (and I use that term loosely beacuse they were just pictures) of something which I would not consider news nor do I care to view it.

 

My point is....not to lump everything into one location, Just like your homepage.

 

That's not limiting the News, that is organizing the news to help your customers find stories they are most interested in.

 

And since I am your customer and the customer is always right.

 

Get on it.   :)

February 23, 2009
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@Davidw: I know the subject of 1 starring or whatever it's called is like beating a dead horse, but it's one of the reasons I had to change accounts. In the past, the moment I posted someone would 1 star me and I would be off the radar and gone, like I had never posted.  It takes you off the charts and you do not have the opportunity to be read.  You literally disappear in the thread.  I don't think it has anything to do with liking your post or not, it's that this person does not like you.  Example, I have a new account and have posted maybe 20 times and maybe just two 1 stars, that's fine as I don't expect everyone to like what I post, but please note my new account is a clean slate and I've had no problems.  Of course now that I've said that I've opened myself to whoever that person is, but it's been nice to go to a site in the morning and see that you have not been attacked.

I cannot see the star system working effectively, my suggestion is to use the comments as a point system.  I don't know how that would work, but don't think it would be difficult to develop.  Please let the star system go.

David many thanks for taking time to hear us.  Warden thank you for helping to put this forum in place.  I know some of us old timers would just like to get back to a peaceful environment as far as ratings go. I can't talk about verbal controversies as I'm just your OFFBEAT iReporter.

February 23, 2009
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A couple of other personal dislikes I had writen but forgot to post here:

-Reporters that put multiple comments on their own post without any comments from any other poster- obviously just upping their numbers to get on "most commeted."

-Yelling with large bold type or all caps. couod you just disable that ability?

but agian- moist of all, I appreciate your removing the most blantant personal attacks and threats.  They are a minority but are dicretoin we do not need to go in.

Bye.

February 23, 2009
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Lette - interesting, maybe David has an answer for that.

February 23, 2009
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@yorksnbeans, lette -- We do, on occasion, approve iReports that contain material that the submitter didn't take, but we make it clear in our notes that CNN cannot use that photo or video.

We could still use the person's story, without the photo, and add it to additional reporting for a CNN or CNN.com story.

February 23, 2009
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Problem:  Lack of user tools that CNN Ireport does not provide that I am requesting to be made available to Ireporters:

1.     Ability to remove or replace their uploaded videos or graphic file;

2.     Ability  to disable comment feature on their ireport page; and

3.     Ability to disable the star/rating feature on their ireport page.

I uploaded 2 videos probably on the same day.  Something went wrong w/the videos during transmission.  CNN Ireport would not permit me to remove them so that I could make corrections.  I contacted your office & was instructed that I deactivate the account & start another one w/different user name.  But still my messed up videos are probably floating around your site.  About the disable comment feature, I did not join Ireport for purpose of treating it lot a facebook/myspace page to solicit comments.  I have youtube & many their can disable the comment feature & want their video broadcast to be the main focus.  About the star/rating:  I don’t rate majority of ireports & sometimes I rate w/1 star or what I think the report is worth.  I personally feel that ireporters should be able to disable that feature of their ireport page because it has little importance to some ireporters.

February 23, 2009

thanks David...lots of people are doing this already..sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't..but to not do anything is worse right..so thanks..

February 23, 2009

mab

OMG!  I have seen things like that also!  It's truly ridiculous.  That kind of language has no place on a site with rational adults!

February 23, 2009
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gotcha! thanks for clarifying.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Davidw - thanks for the response.  I appreciate that.  I agree, our discussions should be unfettered, however, as free as possible from examples posted by mab above.

February 23, 2009
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MAB- I saw the example you gave and agree- they have to go -A reporter wrote comments to me for disagereing with htem that were pretty much just like that and they were pulled. That is what the "report violation" is for and I would hope if a reporter gets enough of those they are removed. Some have not, unfortunately.

February 23, 2009
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Of course on some level I think we are expecting more here in this cyber space gathering place than we do in the real world.  Much of what we see here represents the larger picture, that is the breakdown of our connectedness to each other.  Folks are hardly civil in person, why would we expect them to be under the hidden veil of a “login”?  I like the idea of closing comments; that is quite good; but still squashes the discussion on some level, no?

February 23, 2009

MAB, I have seen stuff like that and worse!! yesterday was a very bad day..but the person is gone now so I can't even give the comment they gave..

February 23, 2009
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@mab91, lette -- I totally agree that abusive comments are not welcome here. I know I keep saying it, but the Report Abuse button will bring it to our attention.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

From Arlene's post above:

 

1. Ability to remove or replace their uploaded videos or graphic file;

2. Ability to disable comment feature on their ireport page; and

3. Ability to disable the star/rating feature on their ireport page.

 

I LIKE THOSE IDEAS!!!!!!!

February 23, 2009

Picco - I don't know about that.  I think people use their anninimity to spew hatred.  I doubt they would say many of these things to someone's face or for anyone to actually hear them.

February 23, 2009

I would also like to see more done to prevent people from taking copyrighted pictures and then posting them on Ireport.

February 23, 2009

OC

Then we'd end up with imageless posts, which is not allowed here.  You can't put up a post without an image, video, or audio.  I'm not about to turn on my webcam!  LOL!

February 23, 2009
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Mab,Lette,

I usually just try and ignore posters coming on making personal attacks. I mean they're probably doing it to get a response back. If they're ignored they'll move on to someone else. I don't think there is anyway to stop them all together because people could just sign on as someone else.

In other words I agree with you but not sure it could be eliminated.

February 23, 2009
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@ArleneArmy1 -- We don't let users remove or edit themselves themselves because we want iReport.com to be a sort of snapshot of what was going on over the life of the site.

I'm not sure why you were asked to deactivate because of the failed uploads. I'd appreciate it if you could drop me a private message with the details

February 23, 2009
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Lette,

Turn on that webcam! lol.

February 23, 2009

NyScripts,

 

I dont think people have anything against you for giving out a one star.

 

It might have something to do with your I-Reports.

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218251

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218197

 

But don't worry these two reports still have FIVE STARS.....Gee I wonder who gave them 5 stars.

 

David,

 

This is the kind of I-Report which is great for the segment of the population who wants entertainment and updates on people's personal life.

 

But if you are coming to CNN I-report looking for a little harder news.  Its tough when you have to see some of these I-Reports.

February 23, 2009

David there is actually a post on ireports where a person visited that post leaving a messege on there. The following is only part of the messege as I did not want to expose this person to the whole community. That will be up to you to deal with this type of behavior..

 

"As a BloggerWar active duty decorated combat veteran with many scalps I can say that we have only begun to fight. The story is not yet finished.

 

There are still pockets of the Blogger Jahid who wish to destroy all who do not bow down to Obama the Worshiped One. Virtual Predator UCAVs are now being deployed."

 

Do you find this is acceptable behavior for people to be exibiting on ireports??

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

Why not limit the number of comments made by one person per post?

This would limit personal attacks and bickering that has nothing to do with the subject, but does enable the poster to rev up their report to newsiest.

February 23, 2009
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@Lette

Yeah, that over the top stuff would not fly IRW, and is relatively rare, but then again I have been surprised over my last 38 years of paying only a little attention. Lol.  But we are far from engaging in civil dialogue in the real world, just flash us back to the election and many of the things you wrote about on here if my memory serves correctly.  So we turn around and expect people to "behave" here in an anonymous setting; and are shocked when they do not?  Half the reason why folks like cyberspace is because of social ineptitude and the “freedom” to express how they really feel without retribution, right?

 

Gotta run, thanks for the convo David and all.  See you around.  Matthew

February 23, 2009

After you takamine!  LOL!

February 23, 2009

lette - turn on your web cam...come on...please!

February 23, 2009
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ldk

gilldreams - LOL - I wonder who said that?

February 23, 2009

Hahahaha...italco!

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Ryn said - Why not limit the number of comments made by one person per post? ---

 

IMO that would be the death of iReports.  I for one would probably go if that became the rule.

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

Thanks David

For everything!

February 23, 2009

Idk I didn't feel it necessary to publish the person...unless requested by Davidw...lol

February 23, 2009
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@mrfloridad -- I disagree with your criticism of NYscript's post. That iReport could have been a great addition to a hard news story about traffic being snarled in L.A. because of the Oscars.

The photo of the man walking on the Walk of Fame because he couldn't get bus would be a great way to tell that story.

I don't know if traffic was a problem, but I can see that story being newsworthy and an addition to CNN's coverage.

 

We do have a smaller staff on the weekends, but we also go back and try to make sure we didn't miss anything.

February 23, 2009
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You know when you actually "show" you're picture, you are more careful as to what you say in most cases.  I know there is exception to every rule but that is what I have experienced on here.

February 23, 2009

KarmaHD

That may hold true for you.  However, not everyone will follow your lead!

February 23, 2009

lol everyone.

February 23, 2009

Or lets limit the nubmer of Posts one person can make in a month.

 

We have people post sometimes 20 times a day.

 

How much can one person offer as news worthy if they are posting 20 times in one day.

 

Would you not want quality over quantity?

 

Have the following:

 

1.  30 Posts in one month (to be used any time/way)

2.  If any posts are used on CNN, you get another 30.

3.  If any posts get more than 1000 views, you get another 10.

 

Just my 2 cents, but since I am the customer and I am always right all the time anyway....just let me know when you get it done.

 

Some of these posts kind of belong on Myspace or facebook.  Just want to see more I-Rerports which belong on CNN.

February 23, 2009
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@Lette -- One of the reasons we ask questions on so many different topics is because we want to hear from all sorts of people, not just photojournalists, or political pundits or people who are comfortable getting in front of a web cam and sharing their thoughts.

We really believe that you can learn something interesting about people by seeing how they respond to questions like "what do you see outside your window," or "what was your best Christmas gift" or "do you work 7 days a week?"

February 23, 2009

Nobody is making money here this is all for free for all of us to enjoy..so when I saw several comments being made about copyrights and infringments I could not believe it! Nobody had even mentioned that at all in the entire time I have been on this site. So to suddenly bring this up now is rediculous.Scare tactics for people who aren't into that stuff!  People want to be creative with their post pictures and audio so what..REAL reporters get their material from sources and so do we the amateur reporters..remember we are all amateur...and it a great site to express on. Just keep it clean..you know like in the parks..no littering? same on here..

What IS wrong is for a person to deliberately take and copy another reporters post picture audio for the purposes of causing problems, and just being plain nasty and rude! Very childish!

February 23, 2009
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ldk

I will apologize in advance for yelling and repeating myself.

 

LIMITING COMMENTS PER POST WILL IMO KILL IREPORTS

PUTTING ANY QUOTA ON COMMENTS WILL KILL IREPORTS

LIMITING COMMENTS PER POST WILL IMO KILL IREPORTS

PUTTING ANY QUOTA ON COMMENTS WILL KILL IREPORTS

LIMITING COMMENTS PER POST WILL IMO KILL IREPORTS

PUTTING ANY QUOTA ON COMMENTS WILL KILL IREPORTS

February 23, 2009
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Shame Lette, when posters are seen as real people and not an animation it humanizes the whole process some how.  But that is an individual choice and I honor that.

February 23, 2009
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There should be no limiting on which stories are considered newsworthy.

 

One mans trash is another mans treasure.

 

If you like the iReport just move on to another.

February 23, 2009

David - That's great!  I never knock anyone for the type or style of stories they identify with.  I hope you nor OCGirl took that as a swipe.  I find her very refreshing and great spirited!

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Karma - I agree.  Hey, is that really you in the avatar?  If so, dude - what's that on your head?

February 23, 2009

David, that was a nice political correct way to say that.

 

But what would this site be if you had 100's of people a day putting out 20 - 30 stories....

 

What if all stories had to follow these rules...Dont know where I saw them, they just stuck out in my head:

 

The Ingredients of a Good Story

We asked a slew of CNN reporters, producers and editors what they thought made a good news story and how to craft one, and came up with a few words of advice:

 

 

 

First things first: your story needs to include the basics. That's who, what, where, when, why and how. It needs to be true, and it needs to be fair.

 

 

It connects. Someone has to care about the story and the people in it, or it's not really worth telling. It's your job as a storyteller to explain why anyone should.

 

 

It's told in words we all use and understand. If you were going to call your best friend and tell her the story, what would you start with? And how would you describe it? That's probably the best part, and the simplest way to get it across. Start there, and see where it takes you.

 

 

It's got pace. You want your audience to need to know what happens next. Build pace with narrative, quotes, natural sound, or, if you're working with video, creative shot editing.

 

 

It feels real. Emotion is a powerful connector, and can go a long way toward helping us understand one another. Think about how you can use images, sound and words to express the emotional range of a story and its characters.

 

 

Map it out. If you're planning to edit a video, put together a photo gallery, or write a text story, it usually helps to put together a plan of action. What are the crucial details? What's the most important part? How are the pieces connected? Draft an outline or sketch a storyboard before you get started with the hard work of writing and editing. You'll be glad you did.

February 23, 2009
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LDK that is a bandana to cover my balding head, LOL and that is me,

February 23, 2009

I am not for the quota thing at all..just keep the comment clean and don't attack the poster or the others on the post..or keep repeating cut and paste like 5 to 10 times on posts..that is stupid and annoying and nonproductive too!

February 23, 2009
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@gilldreams -- I would encourage everyone to be mindful of our copyright policy, you can check that out in sections 5 and 6 of our terms of use http://www.ireport.com/terms.jspa

I don't think those rules should silence anyone, however. I don't know how many posts we get that are accompanied by a photo of a dog or cat or some other image the submitter just had on their hard drive.

 

I'd also like to challenge everyone to grab their camera (or borrow one) and take some photos of something that interests you and then share the story here on iReport.com.

It could be a hobby, something cool about your job or a pressing local issue that doesn't get much national, or international attention.

 

One of the great things about this site is it is a chance to share what is important to you, at whatever level.

February 23, 2009

I think it would be good to make it so that people can't come onto IReport and be anonymous. If someone I know doesn't like my post and says something-it doesn't bother me but if someone who doesn't have a face gives me the creeps. I was a victim of a stalker a few years ago and that really scares me. I think if there is a crazy person out there who gets a high off of being anonymous, they might go further and seriously hurt someone. Stalkers are like child molesters. They are the worst people on this planet. They have no conscience.

February 23, 2009

What about the offensive profile names like obamakills and obamasuks?  Why are people allowed to use names like that?

February 23, 2009

thanks Davidw I agree..I love to put photos on here..there have been comments made on posts that if you aren't reporting facts or news with only the facts included then you should not be on this site! I found that statement to be really a mean spirited comment..

February 23, 2009
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@mrfloridad -- I agree that a more complete story is often more compelling, but you have to consider that some people are sending stories from mobile phones, or are just in a hurry. I'd rather get the story, with a little bit of information than not get it at all. We can always flesh out the details when we interview them.

February 23, 2009

wow Lette that is an awesome question..I forgot about that...good for you..I agree with you

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Karma - thanks for the reply.  Cool.  Kinda looks like something Thor might wear, but things always look different in little pics.  I'm taking you're suggestion to heart and looking for a suitable pic of my ugly mug although it could serve to incite even harsher comments than my posts. ;)

February 23, 2009
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@everybody -- This has been a lot of fun and I think we've learned a lot. It was nice to talk to all of you.

I have to go but will keep checking back to read any new comments.

If I didn't answer your questions, feel free to shoot me an email or a private message.

We'll try to do this semi-regularly at different times so other members of the community will be able to participate too.

Thanks again and have a great day.

February 23, 2009

When I brought up the copyright situation I wasn't attacking the person who posts them but imagine for one moment you took a great picture or wrote a great poem and went to so much trouble to copyright it. It costs money too! What if the work you did ended up on ireport and people start to talk bad in any shape or form. I don't think it's fare to the person who created the picture, or other art form. I made the mistake of taking a picture of art in Laguna Beach and put it on IReport. I am at fault for it too.

February 23, 2009
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Lette I find those names offensive as well, but where do you draw the line?  Censor one censor all, when I see a name like that I do not even open the post, and by the way I don't open the ones that diss any party place or thing, its like changing the channel if you dont like whats on.

February 23, 2009
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Well Mr. Williams,  I suppose I am going to have to email you personally about my other concern that I've already posted on this blog.  It was about the chatter rooms discussion about other users (behind their backs).  To be specific:  Matter of this GSVCR person, who ireporters are circulating ireport petition to strong arm CNN to un-ban him.  Then there's this slash & burn attacks on those who dont agree.  Its the slamming users in the chat-room that I think should be removed.  Just my opinion.

February 23, 2009

OC

We're not making money off of the images here on iReport.  We're just using them as tools to help convey a story.  I think that might be the difference.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

OCGirl - i've not been stalked but I have seen some disturbing comments on other sites.  Things like "me and my buddies know where you live." It is frightening to think that someone might firebomb your house or car merely because you posted something they didnt like.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Arlene said - Matter of this GSVCR person, who ireporters are circulating ireport petition to strong arm CNN to un-ban him.

 

Some of us believe CNN was "strong armed" to ban him to begin with.

February 23, 2009

Agree with you AreleneArmy1. I've sat back and read comments on posts and haven't participated because of it.

February 23, 2009

Karma - those were names of the same individual who's only purpose was to run around the site posting nasty comments.  They had no posts!  Like you, I would have also ignored the posts of someone with those names.

February 23, 2009
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Idk:  But what's the point of mentioning other ireporters names in the discussion (behind their backs).  No one can say for certain if he was banned.  When one comments that disagree with his very profane posts, that's when the slash & burn starts.  I read all this post that have been circulated on ireports & I gotta say his reports were viciously out of control with profane language.

February 23, 2009
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You are going to find a fringe element in most if not all forums like this.  They surface by their actions and should be ignored until they take there ball and go home.  Intelligence and passion will show through as will ignorance.

February 23, 2009

I Just don't see how this story qualifies as an I-Report.

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218408

 

"These pictures are taken from the bleachers outside of the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, California the night of the 81st Academy Awards as the celebrities arrived"

 

It is just the same thing over and over....and yet CNN choose to have some of the shots on CNN.  No one took the time to describe the shots, what they were feeling are anthing about the picture.

 

They just took a bunch of pictures and then sent them from the phone with a standard text message.

 

This is more of Parparzzi than I-Rerport.  The only difference is that the Parparzzi get better pictures and get paid.

 

Again this is CNN we are talking about....

 

The news source who gave us:

 

The Gulf War Part 1 and 2.

Timmenim Square in China

The war in Yugoslavia

The OJ Slow Speed Chase

The OJ Murder Trial

The OJ Aquital

The Clearance Thomas Hearings

In-Depth Interview with Dictators

 

So as a favor to people who hold your company in high regard, lets find a way to not lump every single I-Report into one central location.

 

And then let everyone post as many times as they want.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Arlene - I can't say that I read all his posts but I did read some.  IMHO I think he was banned merely because he got under the skin of a certain group.  This certain group then formed a coalition and "petitioned" CNN until he was banned.  I don't know this for a fact, just my thoughts from other comments and posts.  Anyway, just my $0.02.  Hope you're having a nice day.  Please dont be a stranger.  I/we need dissenting voice.  How interesting would it be if we all thought alike?

February 23, 2009

there is no slash and burn anything regarding gvscmr..as you say arlenearmy you don't know him or his history..so if you just go on a post and read..then you will not necessarily understand the situation. There are many people on ireports who post hate fear lies and injustice to anyone who doesn't see things their way.. Now in the case of gvscmr..he got attacked all the time by certain people, some of which are still on ireports unfortunately. So he is a very creative person with views and made a lot of posts on a subject of interest as is and has been in the news for months. He got blasted for it..he finally got mad and took the bait..That was the plan, to get him so upset he would react back to the nasty attackers..We want him back and if you have a problem with that well that will be your own personal problem..don't bother to go to the posts that are giving him his due recognition! He was a contributor of many many posts..has a sense of humour and creativety that is great..The problem was he took the bait of the people who ganged up on him no matter what his post topic was about..and continued to smear him personally. Funny how you can take a video from somewhere and get attacked for the content of that material that was on the news or tv for millions of people to see then get removed for standing up for yourself..It is a real shame he isn't here..There has actually been an inposter on the site claiming to be him..but it is not him..I know for a fact it is not.So gvscmr/Michael is very much missed on this site and as of him being removed some of the worst behaviour has been erupting...

February 23, 2009

Arlene - It has already been established that we was. in fact, banned.  I don't know why people keep saying that.  It's a fact!

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

Just a thought ldk on limiting comments, not from the poster themselves, they usually like to respond back or thank folks.

I don't think iReport was meant to be a chatroom.

My opinion.

It would be nice if they had a specific chatroom option, but not on regular iReport.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

gilldreams - yup and this coalition is still "fishing."  They've already set their sights on a new target, scalp, rat, whatever name they have today.

February 23, 2009
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Just got back from my meeting. I see this is closing down. Everyone take care, be safe, be specially safe if you're driving out there, because neither I nor any of my fellow Organ Recovery Coordinators want to have to speak to your families!

 

See y'all in the funny pages (or on iReports!)

February 23, 2009
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I have read all the comments on here and there are some very good ones.  I personally don't think that there is a whole lot that needs to be changed.  It would be nice if the nastiness, that some of the reporters seem to enjoy engaging in, was kept to a minimum, but I also know that it is our constitutional right to say what we want. I always try, the key word being try, to remember what my grandmother always told me.  If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.  My father-in-law used to say,"Your lips are like a gate, if you keep them closed nothing bad can get out." Very wise people. And I might add, very well liked by all.  You catch more flies with honey, than  you do with vinegar. When I read these derogatory comments, I try to consider the source and ignore them.  However, I am only human and like all humans, I oft times fall short of my aspirations.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

U2 mab.

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Ryn - I would agree that the original purpose was not to be a chat room but if you look at other similar venues that is the case.  Also, a small part of me thinks this (iReports) is a social experiment.  Hmmmm.

February 23, 2009
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LDK you're from my hood!  Lakeland, lived on/by lake hollingsworth for 6 long year until I went back to the coast.  Come on man put your picture up, cant be any worse than mine!

February 23, 2009
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Ryn

lol I would agree to that ldk.

February 23, 2009
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Damn that was fast

February 23, 2009
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ldk

Karma - I just posted a pic but need to tweak it a little.  I was actually born in Barstow.  We moved to Enterprise, AL when I was about 6.

February 23, 2009
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Cool, good to see you!  I have to get some work done to pay all my capitalistic ways. See you all on IR

February 23, 2009
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We are back - that did not go well, weathre is not cooperatig.

Anyway, gilldreams, when you quoted the comment left "As a BloggerWar active duty decorated combat veteran .....bow  down to Obama the Worshiped One." I did not even have to look to see who wrote that and yet that reporter - comments removed, posts removed for  vulgar laungauge and attacks, still persists and is on superstars. But really- who cares?

Aarlene, my fellow Oklahoman, I know GV sounds pretty gruff on his posts but as others have said here- he told it like it was and for his trouble, was hounded with stupid attacks. If you do not beleive he was banned- just send in an e,ail to ireprt- it is easy to confirm - and it is true.

February 23, 2009

Who is USAinTurmoil? I got a bad hit from this person today. Maybe there should be a special blog where we could post names who are harrassing us.

February 23, 2009

mrfloridad has some valid points.

February 23, 2009
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I just had this idea. Maybe it's already been mentioned, but if not....What if the option to rate a report is only available when you post a comment?  The ratings would still appear where they do now (that is - not in affiliation with the person who commented) Just that the option of rating is connected with having to make a comment.

February 23, 2009
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I had a birthday on the 21st, and went to a little private account I keep for entertainment, that I rarely use. I found that GREENPEACE had taken all the money out over the last three years. I had given them a donation and they just kept helping themselves. Since I never use the account I had only kept a steady balance, I was so angry.............. I had to pay a fee for the overdraft of their last withdrawal, which is how I found out.  The bank said they would return the money but Greenpeace blew me off.  What can I say............ I cancelled my day and drove to the bank before breakfast to depo the mulla for the big rip off..

February 23, 2009

NERanger I know...and I don't really care about that person..we all know who it is..and it is just unfair they are still on here when another very good reporter got the boot is my point. It is wrong and unfair..that was all I was attempting to say...lol

February 23, 2009
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Hi,

I would like to address the issue of old I-reports. I think they should be deleted after 90 or 120 days.This of course can be at the Ireporters descretion. I have pages of them that are no longer relevant or needed, and it would certainly free up server space. Why not?

February 23, 2009
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NERanger

 

You said the following:  "If you do not beleive he was banned- just send in an e,ail to ireprt- it is easy to confirm - and it is true."

 

i dont understand what you mean about how to confirm if someone way confirmed. 

 

Dont get me wrong, I have no problem w/rough & gruff talk.  You ought to witness the stuff I gotta do on Youtube which tuffens the gut.  Its that I took everybody's word for what GVSCR's did or did not do.  So I read all his post that provided by links.  I read it to come to my own conclusion.  Sure he should had stayed, in my opinion because I am used to rough stuff; but his kind of balls to the wall would get banned if reported to operators nowadays.  Had he been on Youtube, he would had been in full bloom & remained (if he had his own channel).  If I was the CNN operator, I would has let him stay.  But CNN Ireport & Youtube are 2 different animals.

February 23, 2009
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castvee8

Thank you for saying this.  I agree with idea.  you will read somewhere on this page where Wiliams explains that CNN policy is that they wont do it.  Ive tried to get them to do this.

February 23, 2009
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Hi Ar;lene- sorry, my typing is not getting nay better, and I may not ahve been clear, either.

the pother day when there was a pst about GV and wheter or not he could come back, I asked if he was banned and CNN told me via email, he was, in fact banned. He did not just self-deactivate as I have when some reporters just get so hatefull I decide to save my time.  I do not know what their policy is on divulging detials normally, but seems from the reports of many here and on other posts, that he was banned - and you can ask for vertification from CNN.  Again - not sure of ther policy for erplying to that dierct quesiton. Mine was not so direct but I got a direct response. So i'm suggesting it is not really a mystery.

February 23, 2009
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By the way, Arlene- you had a couple of posts a month or so ago when I looked. they are gone now. what happened to them?

February 23, 2009

Arlene,

 

There might be a slight difference between "YouTube, FaceBook and MySpace" and that of I-Report....

 

But not too much longer at the pace at which they are headed.

 

There is nothing wrong with putting in some controls in place to prevent this from being a Full Blown Social Meeting place.

 

It should be a privilage to be able to post on CNN.

February 23, 2009
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NERanger

OK i take  your word for it.  Then why would CNN keep his reports floating around the site for the world to see.  As you know, one does not have to be an ireport member to view these ireport.  Why dont they just delete his reports.  Its ok, my typing is sloppy today.

February 23, 2009
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And again, Arlene- from my time on here, theer are posters still on who have had thier posts and commetns removed due to much more vulgar abusive language than i ever sawa on GV's. I did not read all of his posts, and i'm not defending them, but I cannot explain why he ws banned and some stsy. There were others - for many months, from cher and cluebuss before the elctions to Helen and ObamaM-----rs amd jdadams just yesterday that have been banned for xtremely offensive language. I never saw GV use that. but CNN has the right to remove anyone they please. I am not disagreeing with that point. I would like to know how other some reports with greater "crimes" are allowed to stay on.

February 23, 2009

I might be wrong but once you post the posts and contents are the property of cnn ireports..so why would you only take them off for 90 or 120 days only to return them..If someone is removed then their posts are eventually removed too..it takes time I think to get them all off..so why would you want them returned unless the person in reinstated...then of course all their reports posts should be put back.Once a profile is gone so are the reports..

Arlene I understand what you are saying..and as this is ireports and not another website..to be able to report news is good..no matter who agrees or disagrees with the information. If you notice very few people bothered to debate the actual information that gvscmr was posting..they just attacked him the person..The post links on the tribute post by auntiebjw are only some of his posts...His early work were cartoons and just great fun..there I do not believe any malace in his reports..He is not a supporter of Palin and actually was not a supporter of Obama either..He is an Independent! So, that being said he was in my ipinion treated unfairly by being removed. He has been removed..and it is such a waste of a free spirit and a creative person. Some people agreed and disagreed with his posts..I disagreed with his stuff sometimes too..I am neither party and could care less..politically The fact that people can debate and discuss from different parts of the world is a wonderful thing...We are a lot of us in different time zones..so comments were made on the amount of time some spend on here..like who cares..and so what..it has gotten that petty..and is destroying the good that ireport does for people who ordinarlily would not ever post or comment..it is a good website overall..just wish the nasty people would stop with the personal attacks and name calling..it is stupid and unproductive..

February 23, 2009
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NERanger

My 2 posts were uploaded. & they were grainy & some words were cut out.  I contacted CNN on how can I remove them to repair because something happened during transmssoN.  They told me that they could not remove the as it was now their property.  They insructed me to deactivate the accoumt & start over with another user name.  That is why you cant see my reports.  But they are still floating around on CNN site somewhere.

February 23, 2009
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Arlene- why would they leave some of his posts on? good question. I have seen other posters removed but their posts remain too. They get much more difficul to find, but I suppose CNN removes the most offensive language or posts or comemtns but not every single one. You would have to sak CNN - that would be a good question. but did you see the quote gilldreams gave on htis blog today- fomr a pst today, i think she said. Now that is crytainly equivalent to most of GV's posts. so why is he gone? Who knows.  but I do believe CNN gives folks warnings. I have read posts where reporters say they have receieve those warnings from CNN. I have not, fortunately.

February 23, 2009
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thanks fpor the clarification on your posts, Arlene.

February 23, 2009
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David, I do have one question.  Why are our deleted emails not truly deleted?  I discovered quite by accident, that if you check amessage to be deleted, and click on the delete buton 2-3 times, all of your previous deleted messages are still there.  I tried to permanently delete and it is not posssible. I have heard from certain ireporters that you all also have access to our emails.  Is that true?  And if so, why?  And just so you know, ther is a certain top tier ireporter whi has intimated that they have inside access to you and memebers of your staff and know what you are going to do about these problems already.

February 23, 2009
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mrfloridad

privileage indeed, as I understand that this is not a "right".  Its that ireport may need to update with some features that allow users to have tools to remove their videos & be able to disable comments section the star stuff.  Also they need to allow ireporter to ability to ban another users from sending messages to thier inbos.  Ive gotten a lot of that on ireport  but on Youtube, I can ban another users from emailing me on that site.

February 23, 2009

usually on a post that is not what you like you can't delete it but you can edit the content and I don't know about the picture if that can be edited..I have gone back to a post I did and edited the words with no problem..

February 23, 2009
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Emails ?  They have access to our emails ?  I figured something was strange.  I tried to delete some of emails too from the inbox.

February 23, 2009
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Its not the words, Gilldreams.  Its the video.  During transmission somethigs gets messed up.  CNN dont care if it is.  They say the video stays.  So I gotta live with the fact that a messed up video of me is floating on CNN site.  A intellectual property lawyer told me that I shuold of had it copyrighted 1st befoer I clicked that upload button &  may have a leg to stand on.

February 23, 2009
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These were all on one post.  It tends to make some of us a little more reticent to make comments and reports.

 

You would be totally amazed, ****, how much comment

traffic on their iReports is generated due to You

personally and Me personally and Certain Others

personally by being drawn into debating them on their

own turf. They want you and me there and certain

others there

=========================================================

 

The one-star-tactics of a "certian" band of

iReporters is well known. I expect CNN to develop

code to track down the iReporters who "One-Star" for

political purposes. The days of that tactic is coming

to an end.

=========================================================

now expect a PM barrage to sent out to a massive

iReport e-mail list of Obama supporters who have

organized to One-Star slam this iReport in force in

support of Racism to further their Political Agenda.

See folks? The End Justifies the MEANS...

=========================================================

DK, I have friends who are secret insiders to that

"certain band of iReporters" who organized long ago

to wage their tactics against those who oppose Obama

to silence them. Intel is a powerful thing.

 

=========================================================

 

These types of comments are meant to intimidate those who disagree with this ireporter.

 

I purposely deleted the name of the person they were talking to ibn the first comment, as that would have identified this person to all on here. I ahve also heard them state that there are ireporters on here that are your "moles", and that they know who these "moles" are.  True or false?

February 23, 2009

yes ctlss and Arlene this is true..you can delete..but like ctlss said if you double click the delte button they all are right there...and I have no idea how to clear them out..I would think that takes up a lot of space..and slows the system down?? no??

February 23, 2009

ok Arlene I see what you are saying...well it is supposed to be a fun place to come but as it is getting more serious and more distasteful there are people that do quality and creative ireports just saying to hec with this nonsense and are leaving..so the quality is going down hill quickly..too bad as it has been a great venue to express and exchange dialogue with really good people..

February 23, 2009
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Oh well all I gotta .  this was interesting discussion.  Just got interrupted by call from Senator Inhoffe over the census issue/controversy.  Somethings going down on that battle.  So  gotta get to work on that matter.  See you all on IR.

February 23, 2009
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wow, I missed the whole thing ):

February 23, 2009

David,

 

The below post was just posted a few minutes ago on I-Report.

 

I think its official....I-Report is now MySpace.

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218692

___________________________________________________

 

D.C. NIGGA'S BEWARE! YOU KNOW YOU LIKE CROOKLYN STYLE.

 

 

 

Posted by: Delusion // 3 minutes ago // viewed 5 times

SYRACUSE, New York // embed media 

 

DO ME UP CROOKLYN STYLE! ON THE SUBJECT OF WHATEVER I DON'T LIKE IS A CRIME, TIP. STOP THE SNITCHIN'! YOU CANNOT SNITCH ON ME, AND YOU CANNOT CALL ME A SNITCH, WITHOUT BEING TAKEN STRAIGHT TO CPEP.

WHATEVER I LIKE ISN'T A CRIME NO MATTER WHATEVER IT IS!

THE LORD GOD WILL ARRIVE IN THE DISTRICT COLUMBIA FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27, 2009 OR SATURDAY MORNING FEBRUARY 28, 2009.

THAT'S THAT, THEN ISN'T IT NEWS, NOW!

THIS THE GHOST VICTOR CHARLES BOATMAN.

February 23, 2009

David,

I personally don't care about the rating system one way or the other. Most of us Conservatives have lived with others low hitting our reports since the beginning---so what else is new?

Tracking those that rate would be nice, but a bit invasive IMO, but I do like the idea of having to comment or else they can not rate the report.

 

Kallenhart had a good idea IMO about only GIVING a rating, not detracting from a rating.

 

I've also noticed for the past couple of weeks, That MANY of MY comments disappear almost as soon as I post them? They are NOT insults or personal attacks so I'm VERY confused as to WHY they are disappearing?

Another thing that I've found to be offensive to the EXTREME and something that is causing allot of GANG HATE Mentality, is folks accusing others of multiple ID's and EVEN WORSE, NAMING them in their comments in order to...IMO.. start a renewed HATE-FEST on them.

 

Ireporters that use repeated INSULTS and PERSONAL ATTACKS  such as "Meth Head" 'Bootlicker" "Trailer Trash" "KKK member" "Racist" or refer to another members family as trash or their mother was a whore, etc...is outright WRONG.

 

Have NO doubt, I HAVE called folks out for this behavior even when it is NOT directed at me and regardless of WHO or the "gang "followings of that reporter. (Please let me know, if this is considered 'harassment' or violates the TOS.)

The only other thing I have to say is Thank you for addressing these issues and for allowing a bunch of cry babies and whiners (lately) a place to hang out to express ourselves and our opinions.

Lisa

February 23, 2009

David,

 

This one was just posted....

 

Welcome to FaceBook

 

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218641

 

I can hardly wait the 5 minutes when I-Report has Graduated to YouTube

February 23, 2009

mrfloridad - I have to say that Delusion is an interesting character.  I'm surprised that ID has not been banned yet!

February 23, 2009

Thank you David for this forum! Great to put a face with the emails. I like the block option. Hopefully that comes real soon. Now that you have cleared up the rating system....it sounds good to me. EVERYONE can see here that it has no barring on what's on CNN, Newsiest, etc. Thank you for this opportunity here @ iReports! Take care--:-)

February 23, 2009

Lette,

 

He may be interesting to you, but he sounds like a racist to me.  This kind of goes in line with what I posted yesterday. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-218241

 

Certian groups of people can get away with saying anything racist or calling other people racist.

 

This is just another reason, I would like more controls on this site.

February 23, 2009

There was a comment on here or the previous blog on the star thing..by SPK..saying a big red something could be put by a person making rude unacceptable comments..so people would SEE and not do the same thing...better that then actually flag them out as lots of times there is response to the attacker and once they are gone if you just joined the post you have no idea what happened or what is going on..something like YOUR COMMENT IS OFF LIMITS or something..in RED...something would be better than nothing right?? If the person or people keep it up, then remove them from the post..give them a warning via email and if they keep attacking then kick them off ireports...people have been kicked off this site for a whole lot less...

February 23, 2009

mrfloridad

 

I don't mean interesting in a good way.  I honestly think that he thinks it's a joke.  No one could seriously post the kind of things that he does.  I think he's making a mockery of iReport.  I'm sure that's not his picture.  I'm not even sure that he's black.  He may be trying to make black people look and sound ignorant.

February 23, 2009
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SPK

I see I missed all the fun here.

February 23, 2009

@Davidw,

I would like to AUDITION for the  iReport Reality House.

Sincerely,

LadysHoodJnl

February 23, 2009

What I find REALLY funny is that NOW some folks somehow think, they have some sort of "Power" by stating/admitting WHO is giving a one star rating?? It's like they are using IT now to insult folks? hahahaaa

 

This stuff just gets more ridiculous by the day!!

February 23, 2009
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CNN does not own your content-They only have rights to use it for their purposes.If effect by posting here, you grant them the right to use it.

February 23, 2009
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SPK

Personaly I think it is amazing how someone can claim the lone 1Star Bandit can be driving down their ratings by giving them 1 star 10 or more times.

 

Personaly I would be inclined to think that was just people not likeing the reports for whatever reason.

February 23, 2009
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SPK

Now of course 1 or 2 have really started using it as an excuse a few have started to make a point of stating they dont like the said reports so there is no more misunderstanding.

February 23, 2009

if a person states they are leaving one star..that is open and above board...not like what has been going on when anyone posts they just happen to get a one star by some sneaky person like they are getting everyone back or something childish...I like the idea of saying I don't really like your post and give you one star..if that is how they think..go for it..at least they are being honest..it isn't a case of having any kind of power it is being honest! big difference...unlike some on here that just bait others into a bunch of nonsense!

February 23, 2009

David,

 

How about CNN, Offers $1000 per month to the best I-Report submitted in the month.  And it will be up to the I-Report staff to choose it.

 

Just something a little extra to bring out the best in people.

 

Again Quality over Quantity.

February 23, 2009

Okay, here is an example of what I find adding a name to additional insult. (Note the hyphens----indicate names that I removed for this example.

Do you approve of this behavior?

If so, then I'm really off track here.

Lisa

 

-


  // 5 hours ago      

Another stupid post by ---. I'll give it one star.

-


// 4 hours ago      

-


, Sorry...this is another stupid post by ---. She and I go WAY back. You and -


would make great bed partners! You can boost each other with your MEAN posts about Obama. It's a free country. You have your opinion and I have mine.

February 23, 2009
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Stating that the post is stupid is a subjective opinion.  The rest of the comment, I would say is a bit offensive, but again that is just my opinion.

February 24, 2009
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SPK

So Lisa, you complain that people are 1staring you and you say it is mean and they shouldnt be anonymous. Now that you and a certain other have made such a fuss they are making a point of actualy telling you what they think you are still complaining.

 

As I said, the 1Star Bandit has been hitting many posts within minutes of them being up but when you get constantly low ratings there is probably a good chance it shows a fault with the reports rather than the reader.

 

Blaming everyone else for bad reporting is just clouding the real issue.

 

And 1 other thing. When you have said worse about others you need to put the stones down. Another case of H said she said as an example of what is wrong in iReports. We all know the name calling has been going on but you point it out as if you are innocent.

 

Again back to theoriginal issue, read the this comment from the start and when you get back here repeat until you understand.

 

Its not about many people rating you in a way they see as fair or calling you names. It is about the rating system being constantly abused. We have all seen real examples of that happening that arent based on paranoia.

February 24, 2009
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David:

 

i ended up in the ER yesterday of how sick i got, but no one acknowledged my comment on here (I can barely read -some vicious bug has attacked my inner ear) anyway, can someone pls take the time to read my post. I may have repeated what others said but i cannot read all this due to this virus i have.

 

Won't be online for a few days, I get very dizzy and vomit. TMI, I know... but I wanted you guys to know- cannot comment on anyone's posts for now.

 

Good luck on the blog,. etc...

Janet (janmarbol)

February 24, 2009
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SPK- good points. I still feel if a reporter adds several "replies" to their own posts with no comments or replies from others in between or without referring to comments left on the post but just more rants- as one or more reporters seem to do - simply to up their comment numbers -(also seems to be most predictable when a certain "reporter" has a post that is close to the "most commented" they should get a warning or lose superstar status - or perhaps they get taken off the most commented list. Probably too time consuming to track, but one reporter probably by would be way further down the list if they were not boosting their own numbers. Just an observation.  It is a bit laughable what some “reporters” will do for attention.

February 24, 2009

spk

 

So sorry it is you that do not understand.

I have stated REPEATEDLY, that I could care LESS about the rating system.

The example given had NOTHING to do with ME or any of my reports.

Maybe you could start at the beginning of this thread and work your way down and get back with me, huh?

February 24, 2009

SPK and to David

Regarding one star and adding name as used in an insult.

I'll say this, If David Williams says this behavior is acceptable, then I will 'Joyfully" engage in this endeavor on those reports that I deem "Stupid", where as in the past, I simply ignored them. ;-]

February 24, 2009

jan

I hope you get to feeling better soon.

February 24, 2009

janmarbol » David, first of all, you guys in Prod. do a great job and thanks for taking the time to write the blog(s) too and ask us.

 

IMHO, these things:

 

1. I agree w/yorknbeans about the editing process- maybe the editor needs an upgrade - I usually go to simple text and edit there and then space on rich text but it's a little tedious.

 

2. Star rating system should perhaps take a hike LOL... or somehow at least, make it visible to where whoever rates you, you can see who it is and a non-optional explanation of why you rated this way would be good too.

 

3. drop down menu for why you are flagging someone (spam, racism, foul language or inappropriate image, etc) and next to that flag, the name of who flags it.

 

After all, why hide our identities- this way every thing is CRYSTAL clear :)

 

and now I have to go - I am not feeling at all well today

 

Janet (janmarbol) 

here is janmarbol's comment again..hope she gets a response..

February 24, 2009

Anyone who conveys that an ireport is "stupid" needs to get real! That is a gross insult to everyone on this website! What might seem "stupid" to ONE person might be a saving grace to another.

Get off the judgement podeum Lisa..you are most unfair and judgemental. It is not up to you to decide what is acceptable or not ..anyone can tell that from your posts! filled with anger and hate most of the time.. Stop judging others.

February 24, 2009

gilldreams

Thank you for the rant. I feel the SAME way and you just proved my thoughts....hahaha

February 24, 2009

gilldreams

Can I 'quote" you on this? ;-}

This is IF David Williams agrees it is NOT acceptable behavior that is?

 

I love itshe thought she was blasting me for saying this crap-hahahaha ;-]

February 24, 2009

I find that the fact you find this all so funny is very sad. People on this site are getting kicked off for no good reason and yet others stay on here and do nothing but spew out hate and nastiness on any posts wether it be their own or just commenting on others.. It is really stupid behavior... there is no power war going on here..and people that do quality ireporting are leaving just in case you have not noticed.. this site is going down hill fast..and if something is not done soon to clean it up..it will be just another tacky website with trashy things being spewed out on it..what a shame and what a waste.. The creators I bet had no intention for this to become like that at all...

I don't want you quoting me on anything Lisa..thanks just the same as I do not know where you are coming from and if my comments are twisted to suit someelse's agenda there is no point..ok...thanks but no thanks...you have not made it clear exactly what you wanted to quote me on so No ...

February 24, 2009
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Thay have to do somthing about all the unemployed people because things are geting pretty bad in my city thay are robbing stores and running away with stuff out of stores we need money real money 500 to 1,200 dollars is not that much when you got House notes, Car Notes, and other thing you need I have 4 kids and get 400 dollars of foodstamps and at the end of the mouth thay all gone and I`m not working we need help with more goverment help we need the bail out and we need it now I know I do ASAP help.

February 25, 2009

gilldreams

As normal, you have NOT read what I've written. It is you that spits hate at me, not I at you. If you can not scroll up and see what my example was, then I have nothing further to say, except things are normal with you.

February 25, 2009
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Lisa's personal behaviour here is a good example of what is happening to ireports. Reportere and commentors are badgered for expressing their personal opinion or, sometimes, for expressing a fact.

February 25, 2009

lisa lisa lisa... I do not understand what you are saing or writing about on here...you really are not clear when explaining sometimes...so sorry..your example looks just like you typed it yourself..so unless you state what on earth you are trying to say I do not understand your style of writing..

One thing you are very quick to critisize me and I wish you would stop it..

I am very normal thank you and your accusations are really out of line..weather you answer me on here or not ..the discussion is over I think..but if you feel you have to comment back..go right a head..I don't go around attacking people..but I have noticed a lot of people get attacked for expressing views on posts..by certain individuals..and it is getting tiresome..

I agree with what NERanger is saying here..so so true.

February 25, 2009
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Hey iReport team!  I think iReport should hold a conference or gathering of as many iReporters together, so we can meet each other, and learn in person how to become better citizen journalists.  I also think CNN should have a reality competition to become an CNN reporter for a year or life or something like that.  There is a show to become everything else, what about journalists!

February 25, 2009

I find it odd when people never change their profile picture. How do we know it's really them?

February 25, 2009

I think ireporters should do a candid camera type video and make us all laugh. I like humor too. Its good for us all to laugh. At times I think Ireport should play jaws music because the news can really bring you down.

February 25, 2009
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Just trying to find an easy way to forward reports to my family and friends.

February 25, 2009
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I-report I've got an awesome plan... Get some of your mobile coverage units together. Get some full size Obama cut-outs and go to the people... malls, street corners, soup kitchens, anywhere there are happy, opinionated, or concerned i-reporters, and give them an opportunity to ask #44 simple questions. This can help tell us whats on American's minds, give a public forum to ask these questions, and ensure that Obama will hear his peoples wants, needs, fears and hopes

February 25, 2009

Why does CNN not have the guts to report my story?

 

I think it's very important that people like myself know that I ended, literally stopped cold, dead in its tracks what amounts to a 44 yr old bipolar manic disorder by simply changing my diet to avoid margarine and foods containing artificial food additives.

 

My life was ruined by these toxic additives and there is enough evidence and proof all over the internet, on government websites and many many medical related websites.

 

This is information that Americans not only deserve to know about, but also news organizations like CNN and others which I wont bother naming should be willing to and obligated to report this type of news to the masses.

 

I have even offered to have myself tested, given an MRI, and, or CT scan to prove to the medical community what these additives do to me and everyone else.

 

This effects everyone, including those of you who work for CNN.

Nobody can avoid these toxic additives, not even you Dave!

February 25, 2009

ranger

As usual, you have NO idea what folks are talking about before responding.

 

 

Wished I could have joined in on the discussion earlier, but time did not allow me to be here.

It appears that David W is busy elsewhere and I still have no answers to my questions. :-/  Maybe I can make the next one.

February 25, 2009
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Well l Lisa- that is pretty funny and I would have to say you are wrong. I was here for most of the blog- took part. Folks were very civil and made good points back and forth learning as we went - you know, like an actual discussion! But more to the point, I did read all the posts (in spite of you yelling in Caps) and that is exactly why I was able to make my comment about you and your behavior which again, today, you continue to give perfect examples. Now, since we know your head explodes if  unless  you think you have the last word - please- give everyone a little more exposure to your unique style.

February 26, 2009

Howabout a delete button, I have deleted my stories and now all I have is the word deleted for my titles.

 

Please give me a delete button, or go through my 12 pages of stories marked "deleted" and delete them.

 

And it might also be a nice option for us to be able to turn off commenting al together to avoid those conflicts that keep popping up.

 

I would rather turn off commenting than have to weed through good helpful comments than to read anyone berating me, or my storys.

 

Thank you Davidw

February 26, 2009

Howabout a delete button, I have deleted my stories and now all I have is the word deleted for my titles.

 

Please give me a delete button, or go through my 12 pages of stories marked "deleted" and delete them.

 

And it might also be a nice option for us to be able to turn off commenting all together to avoid those conflicts that keep popping up.

 

I would rather turn off commenting all together than have to weed through good helpful comments only to read someone berating me, or my storys.

 

Thank you Davidw

February 26, 2009

@Davidw

Can we have a visitors log? Some days I feel stalked in here and a visitor's log would remove their sinister anonymity.

Thanx,

LadysHoodJnl

February 26, 2009

I want the ability to block certain comments.. let those folks talk the their damnselves... like they've been doing.

February 26, 2009

Ireport why is it ok for people to leave messages like this one??? And.. when I ask for help it takes HOURS to have it removed. It's not right. I feel like quitting thanks to whoever keeps targeting me and no one else!!!

  trytrytry // 1 hour ago  Already reported violation

your sons lost a father when he left you to get away from you now they are stuck with a mother who pays them no attention neglecting them while sit her fat ass down on a stool all day long on web cams obsessed with drawing attention to herself

 

get a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this isnt employment

February 27, 2009

ranger

I was referring to what I wrote. You and Gilldreams BOTH need to get a grip on your condescending remarks to me. If you READ what was written, then it really and simply, explains what I said. If you have a problem understanding what I said, just ask me. I'd be glad to write the whole thing again maybe THIS TIME, in a simpler style you both can understand.

February 27, 2009

I came back to see if David had responded back to any of us. I guess he is busy.

David I would appreciate an email when you get time.

Thanks

Lisa

February 27, 2009
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PLEASE SOMEONE SHOULD GIVE ME AN ANSWER!!!!

 

IS IREPORT EXCLUSIVELY FOR ISSUES CONCERNING AMERICA?

 

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR iREPORT.COM  TO EVOLVE INTO AN EFFECTIVE PLATFORM FOR GLOBAL PROGRESS?

 

PEACE AMBASSADOR,UBIADAH KINGSLEY

- INTERNATIONAL FACILITATOR OF THE 'JetAge Labour for GLOBAL PROGRESS,

 

IS HUMBLY WAITING FOR AN ANSWER.

February 27, 2009

retrotime // 4 hours ago  Report violation 

oc gives as good as she gets . she harrasses others to and is a bonfide drama queen . this is her PM reply to a fellow I-Reporter :

From: OCGirl

Date: Feb 27, 2009

Subject: Fuck off

You are nothing but a lowlife. Get a fucking life!!! 

This comment has been sent in twice already and removed and now it is back on OCGirls post..why?? and why is this person who posts nothing on this website?

February 28, 2009

the above post makes it look like OCGirl sent the email..she did not..this person had been harassing her and was setting her up..They posted the said email on her post then she left ireports..But the good news is..She is back..way to go OCGirl..don't let them scare you anymore!!

February 28, 2009

I will NEVER change my profile picture. It's what makes people know me and remember me.

February 28, 2009

It seems people are getting a little TOO nit picky. This site will NEVER be perfect and please everyone. Geez

March 2, 2009
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I think that the "Superstar" status should only be reserved for those who have actually uploaded a few stories.  This status is obviously given because of the number of responses a person has given.  The cut and a paste re-responders and the "trolls" as they are called who have never even told a story from their own perspective are called superstars for no good reason.  This makes newcomers to the site think that their opinion is more valid.

March 2, 2009
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Can we have a forum? Also, can we have a section dealing with new alternative energy? I have a new source and would like to share it. Here's the story, in case you are interested. I decided to write this article after I read about wind farms assassinating eagles.

 

Greetings CNN,

 

There is a growing problem in the renewable energy industry. I know it sounds impossible since saving the planet by using non-polluting energy is nothing but fantastic. However, a few hours ago, as I searched for groups dealing with wind turbine manufacturing to publicly announce Nova Alternative Energy's newest renewable energy source, I came across some of the most disturbing pictures I have ever seen in my life. Golden Eagles, probably taking home food for their young, ripped in several sections with blood profusely pouring out and organs sent flying in every direction including a heart attached to the fan-blade that ended the eagle's life. The helpless young, now starving and prepared to visit their families slaughtered by a machine designed to save their environment. My heart bleeds with agony and despair as I view these images. How can something so right produce something so devastating? As the man with the only solution for this catastrophe, I decided to put my foot down I swore to myself I would fix this problem once and for all!  I would like to introduce to you the solution, a remarkable machine that stops the death of my families, the eagles. Before I continue with how  this machine works, let me tell you about who I am to gain a bit of credibility. I am an engineer, a rather okay one, I went to five colleges for a total of ten years starting out with a major in Equipment and Technology/Engineering and ending up as a engineering perfectionist as a full scholarship recipient at The School of the Art Institute of Chicago (The School), which, I must brag, has a much greater fine-art program than Yale and Harvard. While attending The School, I studied Art & Technology, Art History, Painting, Drawing, Performance, Sculpture, Curating, Gallery Management and Audio Art. Post-college, I decided to work on the production of new renewable energy methods to prevent blackouts and end our dependance on fossil fuels that destroy our environment and ended up with many solutions. The machine I'd like to share, a machine that creates electricity by utilizing wind turbines and disconnecting the fan's blades plus provide twenty-four hours of renewable energy production wether wind is present or not, represents the end of genocide for golden and bald eagles and a much more reliable renewable energy source for wind farms. It works by utilizing the strength of high powered magnets introduced negative on negative sides and separated as the next magnet approaches as the turbine spins to provide consistent perpetual motion powered by the electricity generated by itself. I have been contacting NASA officials to present the invention that can, one day, very-well be the single source of renewable energy in space. They are all impressed by this new renewable energy method I call, The JP Green. Hubble Telescope representatives wrote to me yesterday through instant messenger, impressed, and suggested designing a model for travels to the moon, mars and beyond since it never stops creating significantly larger amounts of electricity than solar panels, plus delivers extremely large amounts of horsepower and torque to aid moon-buggies and space construction machines for several hundred, if not thousands of years. If NASA is impressed, imagine what renewable energy followers will say when they find out about my invention? My foot is down and ready to make change happen. I'm not the world's greatest writer, as you can see here. So, present The JP Green to the wind turbine manufacturing industry if you are gun-ho, like me, about saving the lives of the mothers of countless baby eagles currently starving and waiting for their mutilated mothers to come home and warm their delicate bodies under their wings, while providing much more reliable renewable energy to wind farms across our mother, earth. 

 

 

Best Regards,

Jorge Perez Perez

Nova Alternative Energy

novaalternative@gmail.com

H: 608-362-8534

http://novaalternativeenergy.blogspot.com

http://novaalternative.webs.com

March 3, 2009
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i'm pretty new to this blogging, i reporting.  i have read and enjoy reading what is on peoples minds.  one concern was someone being emailed.  perhaps that can be made an option.  many people are naive and put to much info out.  i assume many are of age to repeact opinions and footage of other personal presenations without feeling guilty of being from catholic school.  i'm a comedian/therapist and see some get to serious and need a little humor to break the stress of some of the issues being discussed.  this is a nice place to meet and greet, however a sensus is to petty to have playpen boundries.  there is another site that holds the individual completely responsibly if they get out of line with comments etc.  point is, nothing gets solved if you hold back opinions that can be put out.  CNN is a respected site, not seaseme street.

March 6, 2009
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Ryn

Is there a new roundtable forum today or not?

March 11, 2009
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davidw - I wish there were not so much visual pollution on screens, no easy user friendly links between them and changing location of some elements. Tell me how I'm wrong, wrong, wrong!

 

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