Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Mind your manners, Kanye

Families still practicing the ancient art of the sit-down dinner are serving up more than dinner rolls and corn on the cob. iReporter adriana71 always talks about the news with her kids, but she says she's rarely had such a great instructional opportunity as during this past week's three-course meal of public outbursts from Rep. Joe Wilson, tennis star Serena Williams and rapper Kanye West. She normally has to make up stories for examples, but not this time around. Wilson's "You lie!" comment during President Obama's speech drew sharp criticism from her panel of youngsters.

"Daniel’s eyes almost popped out his skull. James shook his head, saying, 'That’s not right.' Alexis made the face: I don’t wanna know happened to him (Mr. Wilson)."

She said the kids got a sobering lesson in sportsmanship when they saw Williams slapped with a fine, because behavior on the court or field is something most children can relate to from their own sports experience: "The kids know never to argue with the ref, as you will only cause more damage." Finally, the kids got a lesson in self control from West. adriana71 said her kids didn't know much about the rapper, but they knew enough that they had better not duplicate his actions. West was seen drinking before the MTV Video Music Awards and she used that as another example for the kids.

Take it from 14-year-old iReporter cam4573: "Even if he thought Beyonce should have won the award, [West] should have never taken the microphone from [singer Taylor Swift] and humiliated her in front of thousands of viewers."

cam4573 and several iReporters indicated they thought celebrities and politicians were addicted to the spotlight. And then AyishaG said she thought people were making too big of a deal out of the outbursts -- because everyone has one sometimes -- and wondered if they were even intentional. Similarly, MrIsaacs called the authenticity of West's outrage into question and opened up a passionate iReport.com discussion on whether the rapper was engaging in a staged publicity stunt. Liberty1955, father of college-age daughters, says he thinks people have a greater sense of "self-importance" nowadays evident everywhere from the road to the Tube. He notes that his parents spent time with him to teach him right from wrong and parents have to spend more time with their kids. He also expressed curiosity at whether the stresses of the economy are making people in general a little more uptight.

What discussion is taking place at your house? West was seen on the verge of tears and rambling emotionally during a poignant moment when Jay Leno asked him how his mother would have reacted to the MTV incident during opening night of "The Jay Leno Show." What would your parents say, and what are you saying to your kids if you have them? Make a video, tell us what you think and help us continue the discussion on public civility. And then, pass the peas. We're starving.

37 Comments
September 15, 2009
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Great Blog

September 15, 2009
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Great thoughts from Adriana and cam4573...many have commented on my post that this is the age of "Meism" and entitlement..I appreciate the opportunity to have my observations featured..thank you, nsaidi!

September 15, 2009
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How does this child know that Beyonce should have won the award.  The people voted for Taylor Swift.  Beyonce won video of the year which is a more prestigious award than best female video.  His problem is drinking.  It prevented his brain from stopping his mouth and body from acting stupid.

September 15, 2009
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@AuntySocial  The kids had heard about what happen on the night of the MTV award, they knew Taylor Swift had won. But when they saw the video, it sounded like Beyonce should have won. Because that's what Kanye West has said. In the end they figured out he was a bit confused.

September 15, 2009
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i thought taylor deserved it too...but if kanye west wanted beyonce to win..he should have voiced his opinion in a quieter, respectful, OFF CAMERA way.

September 15, 2009
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Kayne  -  Your behaving like a lame piece of street trash, with any luck this will get you to shut your  trap. Man talk about claim to fame , more like claim to SHAME.

September 15, 2009
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Kayne  -  Your behaving like a lame piece of street trash, with any luck this will get you to shut your  trap. Man talk about claim to fame , more like claim to SHAME.

September 15, 2009
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There should not be any room for stupidity but yet in still "it happens".  With that said when you feel a stupid moment about to happen you should have some self control but again...oh well.  I will admit the events in the recent past are unfortunate and should not hav taken place at all.  These people are adults and you would think they would "know better".  Being passionate about your views does not give your permission to yell out when the president is speaking (especially of you are politican yourself), feeling as if you being cheating in a game should not allow you to curse some out even if you did not mean to threaten them with sports equipment and even if you thought the other person should have won the trophy does not give you right to take the shining moment from the actual winner.  And speaking of the lader event Kanye has been riding the stupid bus for a long time and there is no excuse for his behavior, so lets not let him use his deceased mother as a reason to act like the village idiot, he is not the only person that has lost a mother and you do not see other people behaving badly.

September 15, 2009
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@AuntySocial:

 

Read the quote CAREFULLY from cam4573

 

"Even if he thought Beyonce should have won the award, West should have never taken the microphone from singer Taylor Swift and humiliated her in front of thousands of viewers."

 

Note that 'he' is referring to Kanye West, not cam4573's opinion.

 

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Kanye blows.

 

September 15, 2009
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Why are people in the audience allowed to drink BOTTLES of Booze at the MTV awards anyway?  Kanye West obviously can't hold his liquor -- except the bottle of cognac in his hand.

September 15, 2009
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*************************What a selfish egoist. 

September 15, 2009
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*****************What a selfish egoist.

September 15, 2009
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What do all three examples have in common? A feeling of entitlement -- that their election/skill/popularity makes them "above" the rest of us. I don't think that the mothers of any of them are very proud right now.

 

Rep. Wilson is the most serious of the infractions, however. Whether you like or hate the President as a person, calling him a liar during a special joint session of Congress being televised world wide is NOT correct behavior. Each member of Congress is given a book of rules of conduct they are to follow. While debates and verbal abuse fly without restraint during regular sessions, a joint session is not a podium for debate, period. And to me, it was suspicious that the camera person had such great psychic ability to be focused on Rep. Wilson just as he made his comment. Considering that there were 533 other members of Congress present, not to mention a gallery FULL of distinguished guests and luminaries, it was odd that the camera was on a obscure representative who has never made much of a stir before.

 

Serena was the surprise to me. She and Venus have usually kept their "colorful" behavior to their clothes and flashy play on the courts. Pressure could easily be used as an excuse, except that both sisters are highly experienced competitors.

 

Kanye was the biggest disappointment, however. He's done the right thing in apologizing to Taylor Swift, and admitting to Jay Leno that he's having a hard time dealing with his grief. However, drinking and bad behavior is not a good reflection on his mother's teaching. He needs grief counseling and rehab.

September 15, 2009
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Kanye West doesn't care about white women

September 15, 2009
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I think Kanye West should be banned from awards shows for a while like athletes that do stupid acts get suspended f/games. Ban him for several and take away his perceived power. He’ll be crying in the corner b/c his entire life is about insecurity, why else would he act like a complete a**hole all the time? Anyone that writes, “oh it’s about his mother dying,” has lost their minds. I lost 3 grandparents in 6 weeks and I didn’t act out doing whatever, whenever I wanted. He’s an embarrassment and his actions are like a small pathetic child.  ...Taylor, good for you for being classy about the entire thing...

September 15, 2009
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Blaming one's lack of respect for others on "grief and sadness" is a cop-out. He should just man up and admit he's an out-of-control control freak. Millions of others manage to maintain lives of civility and thoughtful purpose while dealing with grief and sadness. What makes Mr West so special?

September 15, 2009

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We can't be surprised by the actions from ghetto street trash.. either as he's onstage, or in his music. He took away a shining moment in a star's life, one she'll never get back.  I hope he's happy, and I hope his life is not a long one.

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September 15, 2009
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Fordman..."ghetto" street trash? His actions were inexcusable, but certainly don't warrant such a vile response from your ignorant self (let alone anyone else who's made this a racial issue). Quite frankly, the more aggregious moment is BY FAR the senator disrespecting our President. Tell you what Fordman...I hope you're not happy and certainly hope your life isn't long. Your type of view isn't needed in our country at all.

September 15, 2009
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Another worthless blah blah blah blog from the somewhere in the bible belt of America, where traditional "American" values still run high. There will always be people that do things you dont like. Keep moving and deal with it. F#*k Taylor Swift and Kanye West. What a waste of time and space.....

September 15, 2009
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So where's the coverage of the worthless ACORN who has over 10 BILLION of OUR STIMULOUS DOllars and will soon be getting more? How about the 1.5 million people who showed up to protest? EH?

 

Where's the Reporting CNN? Huh? Keep your garbage spoonfed "entertainment for denial" reporting and soon you'll be a thing of the past.

September 15, 2009
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I agree with the poster above a few comments.  He is very self-entitled.  Like I said, he's a selfish egoist.

 

Saharah Eve

September 15, 2009
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I don't agree with what Kanye West did to Taylor Swift but I also don't agree with our President commenting on the issue.  I feel Mr. President has more important things to focus on.  No one calls him names when he messes up.  Yes Kanye messed up but he doesn't deserve to be called names by the person we put all our trust into to make this a BETTER country.

September 16, 2009
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Taylor Swift-Class Act

Kanye West-Thug

September 16, 2009
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great thanks

September 16, 2009
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Kanye was wrong and Rep. Wilson was wrong for calling the President a lie. The latter more serious to this country!  When an elected official disrespect the office of the President, in his face,he or she should be dealt with fast and severe.When President Bush was thrown at with a pair of shoes, it was in another country! This is President Obama's country! Too many hate groups are already making threats and disrespectful comments ,than to allow an official from the government do it nationally!

September 17, 2009
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Kanye needs a wake up call...he forgot that

his fans pays his bills...he needs to change

his nasty ways or his nastness will cause him

to be broke...THE LORD GIVES AND THE LORD TAKE AWAY

 

BE CAREFUL KANYE HOW YOU TREAT OTHERS BECAUSE.....GOD IS WATCHING YOU...

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