Saturday, October 24, 2009
Hello, world

You probably noticed that iReport looks a lot different this morning. We're pretty tickled. Lots more to come about what it means and how it works, but for now please take a look around and let us know what you think in the comments!

124 Comments
October 24, 2009
Click to view sunethra's profile

i like the red banner but I still love the older way.  now no one knows who has got a cnn logo as it has been changed to just a red 'i' and the not vetted on cnn seems to be a little embarrasing to me.  when the ON CNN logo came on reports that were vetted on before there was some kind of status symbol in it evven those who did not watch cnn TV here knew what the lgo meant.  oh well I guess I will get used to it anyway. and i must not grmble

October 24, 2009
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the pic size seems to have gotten smaller too

October 24, 2009
Click to view professirx's profile

This is so nice I can't stay away, I keep coming back, thanks lila

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

can no longer tell what I have already viewed don't like that part.

October 24, 2009
Click to view lila's profile

Hey, thanks for the comments everybody! ky42, tell me more about what you mean. Can you descibe the issue more fully?

October 24, 2009
Click to view eafonsof's profile

I guess ky42 means the links you click do not show up in a different color when you go back to the page. So, if you're in the iReports page and click a link to open a story, then you hit back on your browser to go back to the iReports page. The link you clicked does not display different than the others.

October 24, 2009
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I like it!

October 24, 2009
Click to view professirx's profile

Yes so do I,  a little tricky on Firefox but that just may need a few tweeks. I'll try Safari and IE next

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

yes before once you had viewed something the name of the report would lighten so you knew you had alread viewed it once

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

and I just noticed the banner where you are telling about changes and join the blog for discussion well I closed it and then map it came up but there was no way to change it back to the banner message

October 24, 2009
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Maybe my problem is Firefox, but I can't find my way around at all -- well, somewhat, but haven't figured how to access the areas I used to find.  Guess I'm just old and resistant to change, but I prefer the old. Really don't like the 'not vetted' banner on top of the photos. 

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

I agree HappyCat alot of good changes but just as many bad changes

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

I wish I could see all the avatars of the ireporters that I am following have never been able to see more than 15

October 24, 2009
Click to view PunjabiPower's profile

OKAY....

1) "not vetted by CNN"... yeah that can be humbling on the face value... Negative energy to say the least....I recommend getting rid of that one.Just say nothing unless it's vetted.

 

2) Once you log-in..at times I have to refresh the browser to see my profile..Is that a technical issue on my end?

 

3) Like the BOLD RED color.I think the contents are better organized. At the iReport Home Page, how often do you plan to rotate featured iReports?

 

4) What happened to the "Most Popular iReports' section that was simply based on a certain calculation??

 

More to come....

 

Thanks

October 24, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

It looks great but I been tying to upload an iReport for over 40 minutes and it doesn't seem to be working.  40 minutes and it's still telling me it's "uploading file 1 of 10". 

 

I'm using Safari.  Might that be the problem? 

October 24, 2009
Click to view PunjabiPower's profile

Here is some more feedback ...

 

1) The link for 'punjabiPower's profile'(UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER) that leads me to some kinda of personal homepage, can easily be confused with my iReport profile.

 

2) So the iReport section from CNN.COM has been totally eliminated in the new page? BAD MOVE... Without even having the click through stats, i would imagine that iReport grew in recognition and popularity because CNN.COM viewers were able to notice it on the home page. I am referring to the rotating window and the iReport section.

 

3) Now that I think about it, the new iReport home page is little too busy...

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

It´s appears brighter and clearer. It definitely grafts the subgroup iReport into CNN mainstream almost as a semi-official division of the CNN News Organization, hence the CNN disclaimer.

 

I much prefer the old personal IP toolbar that showed my stuff, inbox  mail notification etc. It´s all there, but you have to look for it. It is less user friendly than the convenience of just clicking the link.

 

If the re-design is finished, I expect the preview link here may be the realization of the long wished for edit button for  comments in any iReport. I don´t know. I haven´t found a report to comment on this morning except for this. It will be very good if this new preview function has been added.

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view PunjabiPower's profile

Take notice Lila :) Hope my feedback speaks to other's experience as well.

October 24, 2009
Click to view MarieSager's profile

I've been on automatic pilot with iReport for over a year now, so just a little turned around.  Love the Red, the full video option and the CNN video archives of our iReport's (that's real cool).

A few things regarding navigation:  I would just enter iReport on Google and that's how I would direct friends as well and iReport does not come up right away, it takes me to the CNN page where there is only a "tiny" logo that says iReport.  Hard to locate.

The black bar, "not vetted for CNN" cuts into the picture, distorting the image.  It's almost yelling out "Don't look at this iReport".  Maybe something a little more subtle.  I can understand the "not vetted" but maybe a translucent tag on the bottom. 

So many great additions and it will take awhile to look at them all.

Thank you for listening, GREAT JOB.

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

I would like to see it easier to find an iReporter. In the old version, I could type in an iReporter´s name in the search box and a message ´no such iReport exists´ would come up. Then I had to click on iReporters, search again, and the person showed up.

 

No so with this new format. The search bar in the CNN red does not  bring me to the option described above but to a totally irrelevant page.

October 24, 2009
Click to view lila's profile

Thanks for great feedback, all. We're collecting and prioritizing everything along with our own list from testing this morning and should have some updates shortly.

October 24, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

Been on the phone this morning with Sjunat55 and Marie Sager...sent off a PM to DavidW with lots of feed-back// recommendations..please check with him...here's a few points we were all in agreement about...

 

great...full screen option...however all the old visuals pix and videos suffer...too low resolution...so a new challenge for all of us to improve our skills...

 

also...new & larger maximum file size...I posted a photo today 1.5 MO...no problem...looks pretty good on the full screen...question..what's the max size for an individual photo?

 

things I/we didn't like...the new "I" logo...the black bar which appears above the posted photo..all the white empty space which appears on the "My Stuff" page..the photos which appear on "My Stuff" page are too small...

 

back to you soon..stay with it...Y

October 24, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

that red "report violation" option...really pops out and looks somewhat ominous....

October 24, 2009

The report violation is to close to the read more.  I have almost hit it three times already.  I think the report violation would be better on the right side so people are not accidently reporting comments by mistake.

October 24, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

After many failed attempts and after over an hour, I was able to post my pictures.  However, if I try to link my report to Facebook, the corresponding thumbnail is not available. 

 

Please get rid of the "not vetted by CNN" bar on top. 

 

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view Marjaani's profile

Hello everyone:)

October 24, 2009
Click to view sjunat55's profile

Two concerns: In the old portal page, Cnn.com, i-reports had a definite presence both on the left tags and the right i-report square. That attarcted people to i-report. This is missing on the new page and it's needed.

I -reports should have an area, just like entertainment, politics, money, health, etc- You can still see the i-report presence on the international version of the  page but not on the US. Another concern is the excess of empty white space.

October 24, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

What's with the grid of old stories on the iReport homepage?  Where are the new/current stories? 

 

I'm disappointed that iReport has been virtually eliminated from the CNN homepage.  If I wasn't an iReporter and didn't know about iReport, I'd never even notice it. 

October 24, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

Hi ...I'm on CNN. com international...no problem finding/accessing iReports...seems to be the same format as before...however it is different more difficult to locate on the U.S. CNN. com...home page...

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

The multi-tasking iReporters may be active in many different iReports. It would be good if we could keep track of the reports we are interested in, and comment on, rather than just recently viewed. And it should be expanded over a longer period of time for the those iReports iReporters wish to continue with their additional comments.

 

I´ve often thought the initial 24 hour period for new reports is much like the 24 hour gourd for the relief of Jonah, and then it disappears. A function to keep track of those reports of interest to iReporters beyond the 24 hour period would be great, especially with a notification system of additional comments.

 

Ahh! Here I am dreaming of a perfect world again!

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

In the tab ´iReporters´ all that is missing is a search bar to type in the name of the person. It is done!

October 24, 2009
Click to view ANAV's profile

I don't like change lol

This looks great but the old version was better in my opinion...

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

lila..;question...why didn't you all do a test run with this using a dozen or so iReporters?

 

we're doing the kind of work here that people usually get paid good money for..and yes, it's clear that we like iReports but there's nothing wrong with getting paid for work you enjoy..

October 24, 2009
Click to view ANAV's profile

K disregard my last comment lol

I'm liking this now!!!

October 24, 2009
Click to view cam4573's profile

i like it in ways....im glad that ireport staff is trying to improve...when i first pulled it up...thought my comp was messed up. lol...but having trouble finding everything...and i really dont like the not vetted for cnn part. just a few glitches, other than that, THANKS!

October 24, 2009
Click to view BlackStar18's profile

Its ok.

but I think I like the old version too..

October 24, 2009
Click to view Marjaani's profile

The print is not very clear or is it just me?

Also, when reading a post, there is to much space on the right side of the screen. Maybe fill this iReports?

 

Suggestion:

Including a Blog, maybe we should have a chat room for instant feedback, rather than, refreshing every so often.

October 24, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

This is not working out for me.  I don't know if it's because of the browser I'm using (Safari) or what, but I'm having a very hard time uploading pictures and publishing. 

 

It took me over an hour to upload and publish one story this morning and now, after the 5th failed attempt at uploading a new story, I'm going to have to leave, as I'm pressed for time.  Perhaps I'll try again tomorrow, if I find some time.

 

Also, has anyone else noticed how few views iReport is getting today.

 

Again, why the grid old stories on the iReport Home Page?  What's the point in that?

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

lila, if CNN does anything, please, please, include the preview function of this blog in all iReports for editing comments. This would be the best improvement that could be made.

October 24, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

all I can say is that I have been on here about 5 hrs now and I can say my viewing pleasure has diminished not happy at all not having as much fun viewing others post does not feel right I think I am done for awhile I may come back later don't know

October 24, 2009

Hi Lila. I'm getting use to it. When I first logged on to cnn.com I couldn't figure out where to get to the ireports section. But it's gettin better.

October 24, 2009

ireport loads are far too slow, mine has been trying for over 45 minutes.

October 24, 2009

However I did have one video that does not work now.

October 24, 2009

Overall I think the format with the comments on the left of the screen rather than further to the right was better when it was on the right. The larger boxes and open white space to the right of the comments is also not a comfortable look for me, I liked them smaller so I could view more per screen. So far there are too many things I don't like to list them all.

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

If iReports already had a disclaimer at the top of the page letting everybody know CNN did not verify or endorse the contents of any report, why mar the images with an additional superimposed disclaimer? From CNN´s perspective, what purpose does it serve?

October 24, 2009
Click to view lila's profile

Update: we hear you on the concern about the iReport box missing from the CNN.com homepage. So you know, our plan is to feature iReports throughout the new CNN.com, but we've encountered a technical glitch that's keeping us from doing it. Not to worry, it will resolve itself, but wanted to let you know.

October 24, 2009
Click to view lila's profile

Hi JoyfulGypsy - I'm so sorry to hear you're having trouble uploading. I'm asking our engineers to investigate.

October 24, 2009

From the CNN home page how do I find ireports?

October 24, 2009

When I look at a post from my profile it shows as still loading. When I tried to send a private to someone who commented on my whale article to ask them if they were able to see the picture, I couldn't send it, because the body part of the message wasn't clickable and I got a message telling me I couldn't send a message to someone without a message in the body. I also got resent to the top of the messages about five times while viewing messages that were lower. Geez, get the kinks out of a system before you throw it out for the public, this is highly annoying. Hate change, wonder why you guys messed with something that was working really well.

October 24, 2009
Click to view Margot707's profile

It's confusing. Is the top ribbon merged with CNN now? What's with the "Not Vetted" tag? All it does on every single report, is give negative feedback.

October 24, 2009

When I go to my profile and look at my own reports, the pic of the whale shows, when I click the link to view the report it shows the pic as still loading, the pic was loaded two hours ago.

October 24, 2009
Click to view Margot707's profile

What happened to "Newsiet" Most Commented" Etc. Are they still there but in disguise? We've been asking for a few tweaks, not an entire system re-write that apparently still has some major problems to work out.

October 24, 2009
Click to view Margot707's profile

I finally found some of the old features on the 'iReports' home page. What happened to the topic cloud? Will I find that after another hour of digging? Very frustrating.

October 24, 2009
Click to view Margot707's profile

When viewing the "editor's choice" section, the titles and descriptions fade out and overlap the next (or previous?) report making them totally unreadable.

October 24, 2009
Click to view ChrisMorrow's profile

Hello Lila,

 

Exciting times for CNN iReport! :) Happy to be a part of it. Thank you!

 

I love the full screen option for the videos. Will there be a way to see where the iReport was used on CNN? And, will we be able to upload larger videos?

 

Oh, looks good on Windows 7 :)

October 24, 2009

Hello Lila!

Overall nice changes. But I do agree with many- that "not vetted....." on top of all posts that are not, is first, unneccesary, and just sends off a negative vibe.  We all know what posts are vetted, and it would really be better to omit that one.

Other than that- so far- looks great! Good job!

October 24, 2009
Click to view ekkekkorecor's profile

WOW I was confused at first. It looks really nice though. More newsier I think. Great job!

October 24, 2009

It took two hours before I could access my latest post from my profile and see the picture I had posted. Two hours, really?

October 24, 2009
Click to view larena's profile

hello and thanks with this new cnn we can have a great chance to be heard, and we can see who place the violation button wow this is great news to me now we can know who likes our posts thank you

October 24, 2009
Click to view larena's profile

lila thanks

October 24, 2009
Click to view larena's profile

question the pm I am trying to send one and I can´t is the pm not working yet? thanks lila

October 24, 2009
Click to view larena's profile

Welcome the new CNN great challenges greater oportunities greater images greater posts I like they new CNN thanks so much

October 24, 2009
Click to view MarieSager's profile

Like all new changes, it takes time.  I have my bearings now and am able to navigate around, actually very easily.

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

Even with the old format, clicking the link ´how others see my profile,´ the page is partially hidden from my IP address. From another computer, it shows the full page.

October 24, 2009
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Ryn

Do not like the 'Not vetted for CNN" on the top of the posts.

It is like saying Not good enough, do not view.

Agree too much white out on right side of the page.

Gypsy I have most certainly noticed the lack of views

lately and seems to me less posts as well.

 

October 24, 2009
Click to view tyson's profile

We're still kicking the tires so keep the comments coming. We appreciate the feedback.

 

ChrisMorrow - we've doubled our upload size capability - now 200MB.

 

Many more updates to announce - hope you all can join us for our roundtable Monday 12:30pm - right here on the iReport blog

October 24, 2009
Click to view fatimaS's profile

after a few weeks away...i come and see all the changes...wow that was fast.... ''the banner not vetted for cnn'' is not a very nice thing to see ... but hey i am glad i am back...

October 24, 2009
Click to view Ryn's profile
Ryn

The more I cruise around, the better I like!

October 24, 2009
Click to view WausauFamily's profile

Lots of nitches to be worked out. Having to sign in over an over again. PM messages not working. The "not vetted for CNN takes away from the reports. maybe a NV logo to relay the same. Looks good!

October 24, 2009
Click to view cookiecutter's profile

The "not vetted by CNN" label is a horrible idea. Why include it? What's the reason? It makes me not want to post anything else. And what happened to the iReport logo on the posts? Why was that change? I rather go back to the old page... The new look is not as inviting. I miss the old page... please bring it back! Peace! cookie

October 24, 2009
Click to view mcintron's profile

It's likely all the 'glitches' with upload times and other issues are related to the fact this is the beta version. I suspect these things will go away when it's officially up and running, so i'm not too concerned about that stuff right now.

 

But, aside from the video being able to be viewed full screen which is a great option, are the pictures and video screens smaller now, or is that my imagination? Seems to me they shrunk. I expected to see large video screens with letter box format like YouTube's recent upgrade. Video that is not in letter box format still can be viewed within that screen. Disappointing as lower resolution video does not look that great full screen.

 

Although, i realize from viewing the pages that a lot of these changes related to size have to do with advertising content and the ability of CNN to put ads where over there >>> where all this 'white space' is now, and that is the same with the video. Smaller screen, with ads next to the video. Commercials on internet content are more and more taking over but someone has to pay for what we get for 'free', and i understand that. :)

October 24, 2009
Click to view mcintron's profile

PS I don't mind the 'not vetted by CNN' logo at all. Considering some of the stuff that i see  uploaded on this 24 hour cycle, i don't blame CNN for wanting to make it clear it's not their content. After all, this is a news site not a 'vanity site'. We have MySpace, YouTube and Facebook for that.

 

And KUDOS for doubling the upload size to 200MB! 

 

 

 

 

October 24, 2009

We're still kicking the tires so keep the comments coming. We appreciate the feedback.

ChrisMorrow - we've doubled our upload size capability - now 200MB.

===================

Tyson this is very good news!!!  100MB was just not enough room! That should help a lot.

October 24, 2009

Having problems with the pm's. Can't reply back to someone who sends me a pm.

October 24, 2009
Click to view sunethra's profile

i say to remove the Not vetted for CNN and have the ON CNN logo instead of the red 'i'

October 24, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

I can no longer link my posts to Facebook or Digg, as the corresponding thumbnail image is not available. 

October 24, 2009
Click to view whatrtodo's profile

I just want to say I like the new format.  It seems to respond quicker.  It's taking me some time to find all the features but that's to be expected until I get used to it.  I also posted a report on the issue of the report violation button being too close to the more button.  I didn't realize yet that there was this entire blog dedicated to talking about the new format.  Good reporting to all!

October 24, 2009
Click to view WausauFamily's profile

mcintron we agree but it maybe could be positioned where its not cutting so much into the layout. Maybe something above the post that plainly says that its unvetted. The way it appears now blocks too much. We personally think all counts of "views should not show". We have raised too much hell lately and are on a "time-out".

October 24, 2009
Click to view mcintron's profile

@WausauFamily. LOL You are kidding, i hope. About the 'time out' that is. ;) I don't believe one can ever raise too much hell. And i agree, it would be nice to have the 'not vetted' tag on top of the photo or video as opposed to ON the video or photo. Maybe they can do that. Sounds like a fair compromise to me. :) If you ever visit iReport in the wee hours EST, the way i do regularly, you'll see why i made that comment. There is some freaky stuff uploaded to iReports.

October 24, 2009

I cannot get rid of the pop up on the iPhone. No box is showing up to check and keep it from coming back

October 24, 2009
Click to view WausauFamily's profile

100% agreed. Was pushing to get more information out about medicine and probably came across to strong. So be it. Features are nice but we enjoy all the reports that are in hiding. Discovery new reporters we have described to one new friend that its like finding a new great book!

Thanks!

October 25, 2009
Click to view mcintron's profile

Is it too late to add 'spell check'? Just sayin'... ;)

October 25, 2009

The "On CNN" Tag was much better. The "Not Vetted" is not good - but it probably came from the legal department. The red "Superstar I" Should be changed to a "S" instead.

I can not reply to any PM's at all - The screen suddenly goes blank. I love the larger file size..."Lets Pray" lol

October 25, 2009

New: The red star - mixed in with the ireporter name - please change ASAP. The Star should be to the left or the right of the name. Thanks

October 25, 2009
Click to view capecodphoto's profile

It looks great!

October 25, 2009
Click to view DoDaCanaDa's profile

lila, again, the best improvement that can be made to iReports is to incorporate this preview function for comments.

October 25, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

Sunday morning ...after having downloaded a report including 10 photos...that new full-screen photo option is going to be quite a challenge/adjustment...I could use some tech support/advice...Y

October 25, 2009
Click to view MarieSager's profile

Oh,my! I just uploaded a report with video and I think I'm going to cry! I don't have the best photography equipment in the world, but when on the full screen it's a total disaster!  Wish we would of had some type of warning before posting. Feeling pretty embarrassed at the moment. Does this mean I have to invest in better camera equipment to stay on iReport?

October 25, 2009
Click to view yadray's profile

Lila please consider this...that full-screen is /// is going to be a major challenge for anyone doing video or still photography unless one has the steadiest of hands and some pretty nifty photo gadgets..with the full-screen every flaw is magnified at least 5X...take a look  Pixel's videos//and she's one our best//bigger yes...but better,...I'd say not at all.....hand-held video is shaky..is half screen a possibility?.....

October 25, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

I spent another unsuccessful half hour trying to upload pix this morning before I had to stop and move on.  Not working for me.

October 25, 2009
Click to view sjunat55's profile

The viewership seems to be down considerably, and one of the reasons is the I-Report box that used to appear on the cnn.com portal page is no longer there- The only presence i-report has on the portal page, is on the red strip on top.

Why not add an i-report block in the center of the page, just like  money. entertainment, politics, opinion, tech...etc, That would also give 7 chances to feature i-reports at one time by using each line under the block heading. The problem is very few people are finding i-report since yesterday. You can tell by the viewership.I think that will bring the traffic to i-report.

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October 25, 2009
Click to view MelissaF's profile

@Lila..I have the same problem TJCII mentioned about the pop up about the vetting on my iPhone and I can't check mark it to get rid of.  I also agree the "Not Vetted" banner above the iReports is a negative conantation and legal should realize they have already covered themselves with the pop up and the exclaimer on top of the pages.

 

The stars with the i in them seem distored.

 

But overall it seems a lot cleaner and crisper.

 

One more thing, I know that the iReporter rankings are based on hits, comments, shares, number of contributions, how many times you comment, and of course being vetted, but it looks like with the new set up that the algorithm needs to be changed.  Are they working on that?  Maybe giving the most emphasis on being vetted and less of the other stuff? 

October 25, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

The ranking realy doesn't matter any more since the top 30 are not visible on the viewing pages any way to see the ranking or superstars you have to click on ireporters so realy makes no difference any more

October 25, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

and with out the most used tags It is hard to find what you want to view

October 25, 2009
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@MarieSager I share your concern about 'full screen' being the only good option for viewing video. As i said in another post, the screen on our iReports is so small now. I had expected a wide-screen format like YouTube is using. It's a great way to go because it bridges the gap between showing video full screen and too small to appreciate. I have to render my higher quality video twice in order to shrink the file size. Otherwise, i'd never be able to upload a 3-4 minute video - it would be way too big. Doing that brings the video quality way down. Allowing you to upload files up to 1g or more would be great but that's a pain too because a 4 minute unrendered video can take hours to load.

October 25, 2009
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I'm being asked to log in everytime i visit cnn.com. No option to 'remember me' comes up. Anyone else having this problem?

October 25, 2009
Click to view ky42's profile

no but I still can't pm anyone thanks

October 26, 2009
Click to view JoyfulGypsy's profile

It seems I'm back in business.  I just uploaded two new iReports.  Woo-hoo!

 

 

October 31, 2009
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Still not working for me.  I find my way around more, but without the old box on the CNN home page, I agree that it's unlikely that anyone other than iReporters will ever find the iReport page, and once you find it, there isn't much to see. If it's that frustrating and difficult for me, as an interested party, how likely is a newcomer to stick around and look for things?  The banner across the top is annoying not because it's negative, but because it hides a portion of a photograph and thus ruins the looks of that photograph.

 

I'm outta here for awhile -- it's not fun any longer.  Maybe I'll get over it-- or maybe not.

November 7, 2009
Click to view ellewood631's profile

i believe in cnn-ireports.i love it.

they shows us the real world.

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The Mangundadatus were long-time allies of the Ampatuans, whose patriarch, Andal Ampatuan is governor of the province of Maguindanao.

 

Police say Andal is known to control his own private army.

 

However, the fact that the senior Ampatuan is no longer running for governor in 2010 has opened the field for other contendersincluding Mangudadatuto contest the top post in the province.

 

Brawner said there were about 100 gunmen, most of whom were militiamen deputised as government guards by Ampatuan's family.

 

Brawner said the leader of the militiamen who staged the kidnapping was one of Ampatuan's sons. Ampatuan was not immediately reachable for comment.

 

Revenge killings and clashes among rival political families are common in Maguindanao and other parts of Mindanao island, where unlicensed firearms proliferate and parts of which are lawless.

 

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MANILA (Philippines) - Bodies of 21 of the 44 beheaded kidnap victims, including the wife and relatives of Buluan town's vice mayor, were recovered by government troops in Ampatuan town in Maguindanao province Monday afternoon.

 

AFP spokesman Lt. Col. Romeo Brawner Jr. confirmed that 13 female and 8 male bodies were found by members of the 601st Infrantry Brigade of the AFP around 4:30 p.m. Monday.

 

Buluan vice mayor Esmael "Toto" Mangudadatu told ANC that his wife, Genalyn, his sister, and some relatives were on their way to file a certificate of candidacy on his behalf when a group of about 100 armed men abducted them.

 

Mangudadatu, who is running for governor of Maguindanao, said some 30 media men who went to cover the event were also seized.

 

Mangudadatu believes the abduction was politically motivated. He told ANC that he sent his wife and female relatives to file his certificate of candidacy in the hope that his political rivals would spare them.

 

He said his wife called him at around 9:30 in the morning to say an armed group, supposedly of the Ampatuan clan, a political rival, flagged down their convoy on their way to Shariff Aguak town, where the election office of the province is located.

 

He said his wife's parting words over the phone was about the armed men slapping them around and commanding them to swallow the certificate of candidacy forms.

 

He told ANC it was the Ampatuans who beheaded and mutilated the bodies of his wife, his youngest sister, a lawyer, various relatives, supporters and other civilians, after robbing them.

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