Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Video of Thai child sparks discussion

 

One video we've gotten about the anti-government protests in Bangkok, Thailand, has really gotten people talking. iReporter freakingcat sent us a video that shows a child looking over a tire barricade at rising black smoke that appears to be fairly close. Take a look at it here if you haven't seen it yet.

 

People have commented on the video and tried to interpret what's going on. Some people have expressed concern that the child is being carelessly placed in harm's way or that the child is being used for inappropriate purposes. The title of the iReport uses the phrase "human shield" to describe the situation. Others have said the scene is harmless or questioned the context of the submission.

 

We have been in contact with the iReporter since he started sending submissions days before, and when this video came in, we were able to confirm that it was shot in Bangkok on May 17 among other details. We know the iReporter's name but are keeping it anonymous in order to protect his  safety. He shared a few other details and thoughts on the video.

 

The iReporter said he thought the adults were telling the child to "Wave over to the soldiers there!" and he suggested we get additional translation on the video.

 

We can't say for sure whether this child is in any danger, so we turned to the community to analyze this video. We went on Twitter and made a call to our followers to crowd source an interpretation of the video. sethisuwan replied to our tweet and went on CNN iReport to comment that the people in the video were speaking with the Issan dialect. Rather than asking the child to wave to the soldiers, he gave this translation in his post:

 

#person in blue, to child# "Say Bye-Bye there!"
#person in blue, to child# "Say Bye-Bye to the soldiers!"

 

On the other hand, jsky1 said, "Anyone who's been watching the news has seen that for weeks the Red Shirts have strategically placed numerous women and children in their midst as human barricades."

 

These are some different takes on this video, and we invite you to share your translations and interpretations. Take a look, judge for yourself, and tell us what you think is going on. And if you have a story to share or some images you've captured and want the world to see, please share your story here at CNN iReport

45 Comments
May 18, 2010
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This stupud red shirt, i want the CNN OR BCC take your eyes look at this i never see this stupid person b4

May 18, 2010
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This is going to be a long note, but I want my overseas friends to understand what has been happening here in Thailand. You would only see the soldiers' shooting scenes or injured people being carried away on international TV channels for 30 seconds, but never got to know about the background. The truth is, the Thai government has been too accommodating by withholding the use of force since the rally started 2 months ago (with the exception of 10th April event, when the soldiers were ordered to move in without live weapons and subsequently got slaughtered by unknown gunmen shooting from the 'Red Shirt' protesters).

 

The majority of us support the government in dealing with the terrorists hidden amongst the protesters. It held talks with the rally leaders and offered peace solutions to them 10 days ago. The Prime Minister publicly urged the protesters to disperse for fear of violence created by the terrorists. But the plan wasn't accepted. So, it's time to block food and water supplies entering the center of the protest. If the protesters were peaceful, they wouldn't rush out to throw rocks, firecrackers and even bombs at the soldiers' barricade -- thus, causing the soldiers to defend themselves by firing rubber bullets and live rounds.

 

It's very frustrating for the law-abiding citizen of Bangkok -- we even voiced our dissatisfaction at the government for its failure to uphold the laws. The situation was like Bangkok was being held for ransom. A lot of businesses got affected because it's right in the middle of the major commercial area.

 

Again, think what your government would do if there were a large group of protesters blocking all traffic at Orchard Road in Singapore; Times Square in NYC; Ginza in Tokyo; or Knightsbridge in London for two months. They set up barricades to search through personal belongings of everyone travelling through the area. Also think what it would do if those protesters invaded a nearby hospital, causing doctors & nurses to evacuate patients -- some of whom are newborn babies in incubators and those in ICU -- to other hospitals. And most important of all, think what it would do if the protesters were found to have large stockpile of M79 grenades, M16 & AK47 assault rifles.

 

Do you think your government would be as tolerable as the Thai government?

 

Reungvit (Ging) Nandhabiwat

 

May 18, 2010
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this is the litsname of red shirt you can ask some one

who can traslate..

 

 

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ช่วยกันประนามคนพวกนี้ด้วยนะคะ 210 รายชื่อ ญาติ-คนสนิท-เพื่อนทหารของ "ทักษิณ"-แกนนำเสื้อแดง

 

บัญชี 1 จำนวน 107 รายชื่อ แกนนำ นปก.นปช. (นปกช) ชุดที่ 1

1.นายวีระ มุสิกพงศ์-ดำรงตำแหน่งประธานกลุ่มนปกช.

2.นายณัฐวุฒิ ใสยเกื้อ-ดำรงตำแหน่งโฆษกของกลุ่ม

3.นายจตุพร พหมพันธุ์ 4.นายจักรภพ เพ็ญแข นักโทษหนีคดีหมิ่นพระหากษัตริย์

5.นพ.เหวง โตจิราการ 6.นางธิดา โตจิราการ เมียของหมอเหวง

7.นายจรัล ดิษฐาอภิชัย

8.พ.อ.ดร.อภิวันท์ วิริยะชัย-รองประธานสภาผู้แทนราษฎร คนที่2, สส.นนทบุรี

9.นายมานิตย์ จิตต์จันทร์กลับ-ดำรงตำแหน่งที่ปรึกษาของกลุ่มแกนนำ นปช.ชุดที่ 2 (ชุดรักษาการ)

10.ผศ.ดร.เมธาพันธ์ โพธิธีร์ชโรจน์ ประธาน นปช.ชุดรักษาการ

 

11.นายสุรชัย (แซ่ด่าน) ด่านวัฒนานุสรณ์ (แซ่ด่าน) 12.นางประทีป อึ้งทรงธรรม ฮาตะ

13.นายชินวัตร หาบุญพาด เจ้าของวิทยุแท็กซี่92.25 และ สั่งผ่านเสธ.แดง ยิงM79ลงในที่ชุมนุมพธม.ณ ทำเนียบ

14.นายก่อแก้ว พิกุลทอง พิธีกรความจริงวันนี้ และ เพื่อนพ้องน้องพี่

15.รศ. ดร.นายอดิศร เพียงเกษ ประธานสถานีทีวีเสื้อแดง

16.นายสุชาติ นาคบางไทร (วราวุธ ฑาณังกร) นักโทษหนีคดีหมิ่นพระหากษัตริย์

17.นายสมบัติ บุญงามอนงค์ 18.นายสมยศ พฤกษาเกษมสุข แกนนำกลุ่ม 24มิถุนา

19.นายสรรเสริญ ศรีอุ่นเรือน

 

แกนนำหลักคนอื่น

20.มล.ณัฐกร (ปลื้ม) เทวกุล พิธีกร,คอลัมมิสต์

21.นายอริสมันต์ (กี้) พงษ์เรืองรอง 22.นายสุภรณ์ อัตถาวงศ์ (แรมบ้า) แดงหัวรุนแรง

23.นายพายัพ ปั้นเกตุ 24.นายไวพจน์ อาภรณ์รัตน์

25.นายการุณ โหสกุล สส.ดอนเมือง พรรคพท.

26.น.อ.อนุดิษฐ์ นาครทรรพ 27.นายนิสิต สินธุภัย

28.นายสุธาชัย ยิ้มประเสริฐ (สหายสมพร) สหายเก่า

29.นายพล.ต.โท. ชัชจ์ กุลดิลก 30.นางจารุพันธ์ กุลดิลก เมีย พล.ต.โท. ชัชจ์ กุลดิลก

 

31.นายวิสา คัญทัพ + 32.นางไพจิตร (จุ๋ม) อักษรณรงค์ เมียวิสา คัญทัพ ศิลปินเสื้อแดง

33.นายประชาธิปไตย คำสิงห์นอก 34.นายวิภูแถลง พัฒนภูมิไทย

35.นายสุทิน คลังแสง สส.พท 36.นายเกียรติกร ภาคเพียรศิลป์

37.นายสุรชัย ด่านวิบูลชัย 38.นายวันชนะ เกิดดี

39.นายสะอาด จันทร์ดี 40.นายชูเกียรติ ด้วงชนะ

41.นายเสถียร วิพรมหา 42.นายบุญทัน ดอกไธสง

43.นายวรพล พรหมิกบุตร อ.คณะมนุษยวิทยา ม.ธรรมศาสตร์.

44.นายศิลป์ ราศี 45.นายสิงห์ทอง บัวชุม 46.นายสมชาย ไพบูลย์

47.นางดารณี กฤตบุญญาลัย ดาราเสื้อแดง

48.อ.สุขุม นวลสกุล พิธีกรข่าวเช้าช่อง3 และ นักวิชาการ

49.นายขวัญชัย ไพรพนา สารคำ แกนนำ กลุ่มคนรักอุดร

50.นายสุธรรม แสงประทุม

 

51.นางสาวศุภรัตน์ นาคบุญนำ นักข่าว 52.นายเมธี อมรวุฒิกุล ดาราบู๊เสื้อแดง

53.นายเจ๋ง ดอกจิก ตลก 54.นายคารม พลทกลาง 55.นายพิชา วิจิตรศิลป์

56.นุช พจมาน 57.มุข เมธิณี 58.นายธีระเพชร ศิริกุล

59.นายเพชรวรรต ประธานชมรมรักเชียงใหม่ 51 60.ดีเจอ้อม ชมรมรักเชียงใหม่ 51

 

61.นายวัชรพงศ์ คงมั่น 62.นายวรชัย เหมะ 63.นายเสงี่ยม สำราญรัก

64.นายจารุพงษ์ เรืองสุวรรณ 65.นายบุญเลิศ จาวิโรจน์ 66.นายสำเริง เกษมรรัตน์

67.นายจิรายุ ห่วงทรัพย์ พิธีกรรายการรถยนต์ 68.นายวรวุฒิ วิชัยดิษฐ์

69.นายสุนา หินแก้ว 70.เผด็จ ภูรีปติภาณ (พญาไม้) นักคอลัมมิสต์

 

71.นางสาววิสาระดี เดชะธีราวัฒน์ สส.เชียงราย 72.นายวิศาล เตชะธีราวัฒน์ บ้านเลขที่ 111

73.นายภิญญา ช่วยปลอด 74.นายอภิชาติ ทันพุฒ

75.นายวิบูลย์ แช่มชื่น 76.นางศิริวรรณ แกนนำอเมริกา

77.นายสุนัย จุลพงศธร สส.โคราช 78.นายลักษณ์ เรขานิเทศ หมอดูเสื้อแดง

79.นายรัตนพล ส.วรพิน (โบ้) 80.นายอรรถชัย อนันตเมฆ

 

81.นายคำสิงห์ ศรีนอก 82.นายจิ้น กรรมาชน ศิลปินเสื้อแดง

83.นายสันต์ หัตถีรัตน์ 84.นายประสิทธิ์ ค่ายกนกวงศ์

85.นางสุนันทา ธรรมธีระ 86.นายทรงชัย วิมลภัตรานนท์

87.นายใจ (ใจลส์) อึ้งภากรณ์ แกนนำแดงสยาม 88.นายพันธ์ศักดิ์ ซาบุบุ

89.นายรัฐ กอทอมอ FM 94.75 90.นายเสนอ FM 95.25

 

91.นายพีระ FM97.25 92.พล.อ.พัลลภ ปิ่นมณี

92.พล.ต.ขัตติยะ (เสธ.แดง) สวัสดิผล หัวหน้าพรรคขัตติยธรรม

94.นายพรวัฒน์ ทองสมบูรณ์ (เคทอง) ลูกน้องเสธ.แดง โฆษกพรรคขัตติยธรรม

95.พล.ต.ต.ไพฑูรย์ เชิดมณี 96.พล.ต.สุชาติ กาญจนวิเศษ 97.พล.ต.เกรียงศักดิ์ รักษาสัตย์

98.พล.ต.ต.ชวลิต มโนสมุทร 99.พล.ต.ต.จรัญ ชิตะปัญญา

100.พล.ต.ต.บุญเลิศ นันทวิสิทธิ์ 101.พล.ต.ต.ชัยชาญ กิติจันทร์

102.พ.ต.อ.พลสันติ พันธ์อาทิตย์ 103.พ.ต.อ.เสนาะ เขมะประภา

104.น.ต.สมหมาย พงษ์ประยูร 105.ร.อ.นิพนธ์ งามเสน่ห์

106.พ.ต.อ.ชูเกียรติ ด้วงชนะ 107.พ.ต.ท.เสงี่ยม สำราญรัก

 

บัญชี 2 จำนวน 103 รายชื่อ ญาติ-คนใกล้ชิด-นักการเมือง-นักธุรกิจ -นายทุน-สื่อ-ขรก.อดีตขรก.-ตำรวจ-ทหาร

1.นายสมชาย วงศ์สวัสดิ์ ญาติพี่ภรรยานช.ทักษิณ ผู้ต้องหาคดี7ตุลา ฆ่าข่มขืนพันธมิตร

2.นางเยาวภา วงศ์สวัสดิ์ เจ้แดง ซาลาเปา เมียนายสมชาย

3.นางสาวเชอร์รี่ ชยาภา วงศ์สวัสดิ์ อดีตนักร้องแกรมมี่จาการดันของเจ้แดง ลูกศิษย์ธรรมกาย

4.น.ส.ยิ่งลักษณ์ (ปู) ชินวัตร ญาติ 5.พล.ต.อ.เพรียวพันธ์ ดามาพงษ์ ญาติของคุณหญิงพจมาน

5.นายบรรณพจน์ ดามาพงษ์ ญาติของคุณหญิงพจมาน

6.นางเยาวเรศ ชินวัตร ญาติ (ปธ.สภาสตรีแห่งชาติ)

7.นายพายัพ ชินวัตร ญาติ 8.พล.อ.ชวลิต ยงใจยุทธ แกนนำพรรคเพื่อไทย

9.นายนพดล ปัทมะ คนใกล้ชิด ทนาย 10.นายชานนท์ สุวสิน คนใกล้ชิด

 

11.นพ.พรหมมินทร์ (หมอมิ้ง) เลิศสุริย์เดช คนใกล้ชิด บ้านเลขที่ 111

12.พล.ท.ปรีชา วรรณรัตน์ คนใกล้ชิด

13.ร.ต.อ.เฉลิม อยู่บำรุง แกนนำ พท. 14.นายยงยุทธ ติยะไพรัช คนใกล้ชิด บ้านเลขที่ 111

15.คุณหญิงสุดารัตน์ (หน่อย) เกยุราพันธุ์

16.นายพงษ์ศักดิ์ รักตพงศ์ไพศาล คนใกล้ชิด บ้านเลขที่ 111

17.นายสมชาย สุนทรว

May 18, 2010
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Great piece of writing Thanetcnn

they should have people like you working, not those lying sensation reporters they have now at CNN and BBC

May 18, 2010
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5-Star piece! Please figure out how we can share these on other sites.

May 18, 2010
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Thanks for the video. I hope someone will bring justice to these senseless people. Its a small kid for gods sake!

May 19, 2010
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PLEASE NOTE : I am very disappointed in your report. Seriously,  I can't believe it!!!!  " You.. American Reporter"!!! you can't even see that Red shirts are not even seem close to normal people at all.... most of them are kind of like " White Trash " in your country.  Fight for something stupid and their benefit...DO you think that normal parents would take the kid to the war?????? VERY VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU CNN :(   

May 19, 2010
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i agree with a lot thanetcnn has writen and yes its good to give people water and tool to make there owning living may it be rice or whatever, thaksin didnt give them money, he made it easier for poor to BORROW money to help them start, reading your story i beleive you where born into money and there for had the funds to go to university etc,, these people do not, they sell sex to provide food and tools etc to there family, if they had enough money 99% of these people would go and graduate,and make a future for themselves, you even need to graduate to work in MCDONALDS, i beleive when thai poeple have money they dont care about others and have a narrow mind as i think you have,,yes you get drink and gambling problems in every poor society so dont say these are lazy lay abouts cos i have visited easan and many poor regions also lived in laos for 2 years, a drink after a hard day in field making rice or whatever job they do is kown around the world, i would say you have an easy job and have been helped with money etc to education so there is no difference in your family helping and thaksin helping with loans.. dont be so narrow minded...

May 19, 2010
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I am engaged to a Thai girl.  She is from Isaan area, which is a very rural poor area, but she was able through hard work to get a bachelor's degree, and she works in BKK.  I was in Bangkok when this fiasco happened.  My fiancee hates the Red Shirts, they are destroying everything that Thailand stands for: peace and love.  I have been visiting Thailand for the last 25 years, the people are eager to become a democratic society; but, some politicians, in particular Thaksin, don't want that to happen because it will take away their power.

What Thaksin did for the villagers and poor people, which was not a whole lot anyway, he was doing it because he is a public official using public funds.  Nothing came out of his pocket.  To the contrary, he made billions of dollars by robbing the people of Thailand and the country itself from its resources and assets. 

The ill-informed Red Shirts will realize the truth one day.  Abhisit is an honest educated prime minister, and he is focused on the best interests of Thai people, all people. 

May 19, 2010
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This entry LEAVES OUT the next shot of the little child wailing and crying at being put up on the tyres!!!!   Why censor the payoff shot that proves that the kid did not want to be there and was being used to try to bait the soldiers to shoot the kid.

 

Why put a kerchief on the kid?  Why set him up there?  Why not take him down after he cries?

 

Answer.... try to get the kid shot by Thai government soldiers.  The stupid and cruel move did not work.  The young Thai soldiers have held their discipline, thank goodness, in spite of having no riot training.

May 19, 2010
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Long list of facts of Bangkok events, gathered via contact with real Thai people of all walks of life and from Thai local broadcast TV ( which is beating CNN and especially BBC to the picture story by miles).

1.  The protest riots were begun and funded by the Thaksin organization, including his Commander Red (now dead) and now his mouthpiece, Robert Amsterdam.  The intent is to return Thaksin to power, recapture his billions seized by Thai government, and throw out his criminal conviction.

2.  Protesters/Red shirts were given money to sit in the Reds' compound.

3.  Protesters had their Thai I.D. cards taken away by Reds goons and held, denying the folks a way to leave.  If they did leave, their I.D. cards were retained so that these folks could be located at home later for retaliation.

4.  Most of the Reds could not define democracy and the goons there do not care.

5.  Reds thugs invaded a hospital where the head Buddhist monk was located, and that hospital, in fear for its patients, evacuated.

6.  A Red held a small child up above the tyres so that maybe he would be shot by soldiers.  A kerchief was put on him to disguise him and the child ended wailing and crying at being forced to stand up there.  The Reds goons are criminals with no respect for anything.

7.  This is not about Democracy and these are not freedom fighters.

Here are very important stories missed by mass media (maybe because they do not fit into the media's creation of drama)

A.  Over a hundred Thai accounts were frozen to keep others from helping Thaksin bring money into the country to fund the riots.

B.  There has been virtually no looting by either side altough the opportunity abounds.

C.  The Reds had black shirts with heavy guns shooting police and military to create trouble.  The black shirts were Commander Red's private army.

D.  Red shirts on peoples bodies disappeared after Commander Red died.

At 10AM, May 19 these are factors not seen on CNN because their reporters are hiding in hotels or cowering behind protection.

1A. Armored personnel carriers (NOT TANKS, CNN) are being used to protect troops, deliver troops, and to bash down the Reds' barriers.

2A.  Less than 3,000 Reds remain inside the main compound.

3A.  99% of the smoke is coming from burning tyres, not buildings.  One non-occupied building and one sign board were partly ablaze only.

4A.  Thai gov has halted the sale of used tyres (finally) and some fuel stations sales.

I know much more than CNN or BBC about all this from my home in the Bangkok suburbs just by watching Thai local TV and listening to the folks coming and going with their personal stories here.   This failure of world news sources that I can see with my own eyes tells me volumes about how these people function all the time.  A huge failure of journalism by CNN and BBC (as these are seen on Thai satellite TV service locally) starts with their demand to create DRAMA and two-sided conflict to pump up their broadcasts and ends by making matters worse.

SHAME ON CNN AND BBC.

May 19, 2010
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CNN:  The other important story is WHAT HAS NOT HAPPENED which u should report:

-no looting nor burning of surrounding expensive shops.

-no machine gunning of anyone on a mass scale (check out other countries' riots behavior in contrast, see China especially).

-the gov did not smash the protesters right away like a totalarian gov would have... 2 months is a lot of patience.

-the rioting Reds did not spread all over BKK nor in any effective way, over all of Thailand.

-the poor too-young Thai soldiers held discipline despite no urban riot training.

-Commander Red did not go wild with his private army of black shirts (those with the cute added red kerchiefs).

-the Thai middle class hunkered down instead of coming to the streets with their own force.  But no mistake, they are angry.

-There are now one reporter/camera guy for every three participants.  In some places the reporters outnumber the participants at 10AM today.

Thai culture is very unique and difficult for a Western mind-set to understand.  Thus, CNN et al reports badly, using their cute weather girls pressed into helmets to try to get a handle on all this mess.

May 19, 2010
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The story for tomorrow, May 20, 2010, is about Robert Amsterdam, the "lawyer" shill who is hired by Thaksin (whom Amsterdam's web page calls "Dr. Thaksin Shinawatra"---doctor!!!!) to get Thaksin back into power in Thailand.

Thaksin joins Putin and others of Amsterdam's buddies to get Amsterdam's services to allow dictators to get or hold power.  Google "Robert Amsterdam" to see his web site if you want to see a shyster lawyer at work.  Lawyer jokes are around for a reason and this guy is a super joke if he was not so connected with the rich and wanna-be powerful... see movie script below of the super rich's latest toy... a purchased coup!

INT, PRIVATE CLUB, NIGHT

Act 2, Scene 3, Robert Amsterdam with super rich buddies at private club over drinks.

                           R.A,

   So, how u boys doin?

                         Super Rich Bill

   Hey Bob, thanks for the help in my coup in

    Bzartville.  Good price, too.

                         R.A.

    When I got that kid shot by the soldiers,

     tide turned to you, Bill.  I paid the parents,

     no worry.  It is on my itemized bill.

                         Super Rich Jack

      Bob, that reminds me, I gotta little problem

      with my investments in Scandaziva.  Can u

      get on over there?"

                          R.A.

       No problem, Jacko!

                         Super Rich Jack

       The wife wants our coup over before a big

        snow so she can ski.

                          R.A.

                  (sipping 20 yr old whiskey)

          Speed is gonna cost you, Jacko!

                          Super Rich Jack

          Go for it.

Ordinary folks.... lets deport Robert Amsterdam from Thailand !!!!

May 19, 2010
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That video, the guy in the blue shirt said "say bye bye to the soilders, kid..."

I'm Thai living in Los angeles. I talk to my family and friends in Thailand every day about the crisis. Everybody hates Red Shirts. They burnt down buildings, broke ATM machines, set fires at the train stations, broke into stores to get food, supplies and of course-money. My girlfriend who works on Silom road Bangkok said she was stopped by Red Shirts (the Red set up their own check points to search the weapon at anyone who pass by their way)and they took cash from her wallet. What will you do if somebody trying to burn down your house? We support the government and this protest only caused by one man greed-Thaksin.

May 19, 2010
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While I agree with CNN wanting more people to confirm/add information to the report, etc, why is it that you do not want to put up any information about the context, behaviour of people on both sides and anything else which will help readers get a more complete overview of the situation at hand?

 

I'm sure it is known to CNN by now that the Red shirt leaders specified some time ago that they will use "human shields" to deter a crackdown by the military. As of today, everyone has seen them put it into practice. The old, the young and the women have been deployed strategically to prevent the military from using firearms in those areas.

 

In my opinion, it is time CNN stop omitting important contextual information. The kid in the video being there cannot be justified in any way, he/she is just being used as a tool by the Red shirts (per order from the leadership figures). The world should condemn their actions, before these misinformed protesters start taking ever more unethical actions.

May 19, 2010
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For me, CNN has lost a lot of credibility as a news provider. A lot of my friends now think that CNN news are bias. Many even believe that CCTV is better.

May 19, 2010
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I believe THANETCNN had explained the reason why the red shirts have to put up with this fight. The red shirts are mostly farmers, they did all the hard work, they live the poor lives and contribute to the wealthies, but they never get the equal rights of education, employment, health care, respect as a human being and etc. I think the red shirts have a legitimate reason to stand up and fight for their rights.

May 19, 2010
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They never get the equal rights of education, employment, health care, respect as a human being???

Do you know that this government enact a law that allows free education up to grade 12? Do we have any law that suppress the poor?

Do you think think that Red Shirt is poor? They have enough money to buy more than 10,000 of tyres to burn down. That's more than several million baht.

May 19, 2010
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I have been to Thailand off and on in the last three years and in general the Thais are very friendly folks. The last two years had been tough on the country since the Yellows took to the streets and now the Reds.  The Yellows occupied the airport and stuff, but you never saw anything like this happened since they are mostly middle class and better educated folks.  The Reds are poor folks and are controlled by a small group of thugs.  They are paid to be there and they get free food and a small stipend. Life is good for most of them while they are there protesting. They don't know any better.  They have no problem destroying the city, burning down stores, cars, buses or kill other as needed to achieve their goals.  No government would tolerate this kind of thuggish behavior.  This would not last a day in the US, UK, or anywhere in Europe.  Now the Human Rights group is concerned?  That is a bunch of crap.

Regarding the kid, this speaks volume of the Reds.

May 19, 2010
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10 mins ago from Tweeter:

 

"All members of Thai and foreign media are warned to be very careful as protesters now targeting journalists"

 

Your bias reports would not help your reporters at this moment. Take your staffs out before something happen and blame our government and military. Thank You!!!!

May 19, 2010
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CNN - where are report about this incident?!?

 

few minutes ago from Tweeter:

"There are incidents where firefighters have been shot at to prevent them from putting out fire."

May 19, 2010
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i find it a bit BIAS and contradictory that such thai ppl like THANETCNN calls CNN bias when if you listen to ANY of the THAI TV news or NATION news or government news, EVERYTHING is bias to the government's view. All broaddcasts from this government is censored and one sided. they only bring news that justify their methods and condemn others. they show army snipers doing their duty in shooting with legal rights, but they don't show who was killed on the other side. they tweet news that only hide half of the story.  AND if you look at any of the NEWS, none of the news footage are ever live with live pictures and videos from the inside of the protest and area in concern. most reports are done from phone to the thai hosts but don't send any pics or live footage.  HA, but a bit ironic that CNN has live pics from inside and video footages as it happens.  So really who is bias on news reporting?  This is a trait of thai people who only care about face and what looks good to their reputation and like to bat their eyes away from reality.  i'm thai and i work on all sorts of news from human trafficking documentaries to political corruptions to everyday thai living. i live in the protest right behind the hyatt and i walk through the protest sites and i hear it all day their protest speeches. i understand everything and don't agree with it all nor am I a redshirt.  i watch CNN news, i subscribe to nation news, watch thai news, and i watch live feeds from UDD as well and i understand every single word of each report. nothing is more BIAS then the government's report. i can vouched that though, us thais are friendly, we need to get out of our dreamy world of trying to be this cute, pretty if light skin people and take a look at reality.  if you want to write an open letter about bias news broadcasting, try sending it to the government and nation news that have created this unrealistic reality for you with your fake thai lakorn worlds and dreamy world reporting.

May 19, 2010
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If your reporter "Dan River " said he never seen any shooting from Reds by his eye, keep identify yourself as a reporter and walking on the street right now. He will prove his words.

May 19, 2010
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Thai government are criminals. You don't need more than a week in this country to realize. Ask yourself why the Thai government need to control the media. They've closed websites/TV channels, sacked journalists who report "the truth" changed laws to benefit their fight to continue repressing the poor and vulnerable, not to mention the fact that they use machine guns and snipers in self defence!

 

I have been here for ten years I am fluent in Thai speaking and reading. The more I learn about this country and the way it is governed the more I hate it's "elite". I think it's time I left and start campaigning from the UK. Maybe I should write a book explaining to Thai people how they are being cheated on.

 

A little background on the shirt colours for you.

 

There are two types of Thai yellow shirts the nasty selfish ones with all the money and power (intelligence not essential) and the brainwashed general public, normally holders of a bachelor’s degrees, they are slightly better off than the red shirts and therefore have too much self pride. But, they have little knowledge about the rest of the world. They just believe what they were taught in school as a child, that Thailand is the best place in the world and that Thais are the nicer people than any other nation in the world.

 

Then you have the two types of red shirts. The poor (or slaves as they rightly call themselves) who saw their lives change for better through an elected government leader not wearing a yellow shirt, or the genuinely well educated including some knowledge of the rest of the world. They have respected jobs (ie: some university professors) but they are seldom wealthy.

 

WHO ARE YOU?

 

I know who THANETCNN is! - A typical deluded Thai yellow shirt, not wealthy. It's a shame there are so many of these idiots in Thailand.

 

Maybe MR THANNETCNN, if some of your taxes went to the poor they might be able to get an education and better jobs and then eventually pay taxes themselves!!!!!!!! This is the idea behind the benefit system in other countries.

 

But no.......you wear your fancy yellow shirt you stupid idiot you'd rather support the elites and pay your taxes to them instead. You're a real winner THANETCNN!

 

The real sad thing is that you won't listen to me or anyone else the brainwashing you've been subjected to runs so deep I'd need to talk to your mother first!

 

May 19, 2010
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MESSAGE FOR THANNETCNN

 

Maybe MR THANNETCNN, if some of your taxes went to the poor they might be able to get an education and better jobs and then eventually pay taxes themselves!!!!!!!! This is the idea behind the benefit system in other countries.

 

But no.......you wear your fancy yellow shirt you stupid idiot you'd rather support the elites and pay your taxes to them instead. You're a real winner THANETCNN!

May 19, 2010
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Eventually all Thai will pay for the damage. Some will pay by there lives to believe in there goals.But the people who they leave behind will pay for life. And than it doesnt matter if youre red or yellow.

May 19, 2010
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Mr.Listen2Red:Are you sure you are fluent in Thai reading and speaking? I doubt that!! But if you REALLY do, you still don't know our Thai culture. Foreigners are still foreigners... No matter how long you have lived in BKK... I've been living in USA more than 10 years, I still don't totally know their culture. I can't say myself that I speak fluently or reading fluently.

 

Anyway, that's not the point.. If you are saying our governments are criminals...It means the previous governments are also criminals...or even when Mr.T was the PM...

 

That is so funny when you saying the more you know our country, the more you hate it's "elite"...But you still reside in Thailand....I am not either Yellow nor Red, but I just can't stand how these Red protesters burn down their own country. This country has long history, and it took years to build this peaceful, beautiful country... We are proud to be Thais no matter how our governments are... I know some of them are corrupted, but still they will never ever destroy their own country unlike someone. He just think that he had so much money and can live in any place in the world..

Wrong!!! I know one place that he will never ever live again is Thailand. Neither will you, mr.listen2red. Remember, what goes around comes around!!!...

May 20, 2010
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Terrorists use children as a shield. Arrant

 

May 20, 2010
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Bad reporter indeed...

This is what CNN can do? Support the red terrorists

 

Really tired of this media

 

Have you seen the clip when this child cried?

go to hell all red shirts

May 20, 2010
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Education is free if you don't count the books, uniforms, transportation, food, computer lab fees, and so on...I am not Thai but I know for sure that the education is not equal.  I have worked as a volunteer in the rural areas and worked in the city.  The rural area schools don't even have fans in the classrooms while the city schools have air if their parents have paid for them to study in a English Program.  The poor schools don't even have books.  If a student wants to study at a good school in the city they have to pass a difficult test, which most students can't pass.  If they don't pass they can pay 30,000 baht or up to study at the city school.  You can not honestly say education is free ChayaChoka!!

May 20, 2010
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WHY SHOULD A BABY BE PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE REDS AND THE YELLOWS?

 

MY EYES CRY AND MY HEART ACHE FOR THE CHILDREN OF BANKOK THAILAND.

 

THIS IS SO SAD. THAT POOR BABY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

May 20, 2010
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everybody is watching the puppet show (blind as they are)  and they re callin a dragon slayer a hero!!! look behind the scene...Thai culture???? when u went to a tempel and pray to get the price of next the lotto or to get rich????? go and sit on ur ass i really wanna know who will get all those profit from that...who is it to make them believe...tv commercial news papper...who got this will got the mind of everyone, is it brainwash???

May 20, 2010
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every 500th government officials from c.a. 70 million people in thailand 50 millionth bath plug in his

one's own pocket .... But as for who should come to pay??? or is that tradition too

May 21, 2010
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What I would like to say is that the statement "They never get the equal rights of education, employment, health care, respect as a human being" is NOT true. It try to say that this government is treating poor people like animals! despite that government is trying to lift the standard living of every people such as free education program.

This free education programs will pay for every basic expense such as tuition fees, books, clothing, stationary etc. Of course, it doesn't mean that anybody can have their kids study in top class international school in Bangkok for free which is impossible even in the country like USA. However, I still believe that it's a start, education is something that truly important to poor people much more than just hand out money freely.

May 21, 2010
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This is not yellow against red anymore..most people who posts recently are normal citizens who did not previously side with any color and who are now very angry with the red shirt.

 

Smart move red shirt. Now the rest of the country is against you. If you rise again we will make sure you and your family will not live in peace!!

 

If you dont want to live in our beautiful country...move to Cambodia..no one ask you to stay.

May 21, 2010
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YELLOW SHIRTS....you are only big in Thailand. You're not special for the rest of the world you are idiots especially what you believe in.

 

Enjoy your life in Thailand. Don't go out of Thailand.

 

May 22, 2010
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I'm not either Yellow or Red. Both of them deserve jails for acting against laws and create chaos.

However, what I annoy me is some of their attitude. The feeling of Rage and Hate that filled within them make them ready to hurt anyone who oppose them. For me, most of those feeling originated from the bias news they digested.

That's why I really oppose media, Any media on BOTH side, that present only half truth news.

May 23, 2010
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I agree... The Thai Government was too tolerant and should have not let this go on too long. The ""reds" should have stopped when the government gave them a full compromise. They wanted violence and destruction. They had planned to burn down the Central Groups properties, the Bangkok Bank properties and the government's properties. This was not a spontaneous uprising. Thaksin and his people have planned it all.

May 24, 2010
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this is not about poor aginst rich. it is all about tuksin wants to come back to corrupt the country again so he can make more money. tuksin have been paying the red shirt the whole time. he used to paid 300baths per day and now he is paying them 1000 baths per day to stay and protest the government. of couse, the red shirt leader get pay more. he also hired other group to create chaos within and blame it to the governemnt. again, this is about tuksin the "snake." i feel sorry for "listen2red" obviously, he is uneducated person, never got a chance to go to school and learn. he thinks like a caveman. what a shit head!

May 26, 2010
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'listen2red'

Majority of people comments here are Real Thai who loves their own country, thailand. Some of us may live in thailand, some may live in other country but our heart are Thai.

 

it's our freedom to stay in/or go out side Thailand since we never burn our motherland like Red Shirt have done; and most of all it's not your business.

 

By the way as a Real Thai who is the real owner of this country, I do say to the person like you, the person who betray king, their ancestor and their mother land, Get out of Thailand if you are here / or Do not step on the 'land of Thai people' if you are not in this country right now. You should be happy I'm saying this since you also want it this way, win-win.

 

 

May 27, 2010
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The comment by listen2red is true. It is what really going on now in Thailand.I have been talking to a lot of Thai(not reds or yellows) and foreigners who has stayed in Thailand for years. They have said the things similar to this comment.This is what the rest of the world see Thailand now.

listen2red: Thai government are criminals. You don't need more than a week in this country to realize. Ask yourself why the Thai government need to control the media. They've closed websites/TV channels, sacked journalists who report "the truth" changed laws to benefit their fight to continue repressing the poor and vulnerable, not to mention the fact that they use machine guns and snipers in self defence!

I have been here for ten years I am fluent in Thai speaking and reading. The more I learn about this country and the way it is governed the more I hate it's "elite". I think it's time I left and start campaigning from the UK. Maybe I should write a book explaining to Thai people how they are being cheated on.

A little background on the shirt colours for you.

There are two types of Thai yellow shirts the nasty selfish ones with all the money and power (intelligence not essential) and the brainwashed general public, normally holders of a bachelor’s degrees, they are slightly better off than the red shirts and therefore have too much self pride. But, they have little knowledge about the rest of the world. They just believe what they were taught in school as a child, that Thailand is the best place in the world and that Thais are the nicer people than any other nation in the world.

Then you have the two types of red shirts. The poor (or slaves as they rightly call themselves) who saw their lives change for better through an elected government leader not wearing a yellow shirt, or the genuinely well educated including some knowledge of the rest of the world. They have respected jobs (ie: some university professors) but they are seldom wealthy.

WHO ARE YOU?

I know who THANETCNN is! - A typical deluded Thai yellow shirt, not wealthy. It's a shame there are so many of these idiots in Thailand.

Maybe MR THANNETCNN, if some of your taxes went to the poor they might be able to get an education and better jobs and then eventually pay taxes themselves!!!!!!!! This is the idea behind the benefit system in other countries.

But no.......you wear your fancy yellow shirt you stupid idiot you'd rather support the elites and pay your taxes to them instead. You're a real winner THANETCNN!

The real sad thing is that you won't listen to me or anyone else the brainwashing you've been subjected to runs so deep I'd need to talk to your mother first!

May 29, 2010
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Great to read some inside perspectives on this really sad episode in Thailand's history.  I hope peace and unity is restored one day soon.

June 3, 2010
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May I say something?

Who was it that passed the law giving all thai's the right to free education?

And yet that is the problem- education.

People are uneducated full stop. They are easily swayed by the media, or they know nothing outside of the comfort of their own home. Thai's are people who like peace and for most of them it means their home. How many of the 70million people in Thailand have traveled outside of SEA? How many of the 70 million people in Thailand have a foreign degree? I don't include the Thai degrees because it limits the Thai people even more. If education's main purpose it to allow people to think for themselves then Thailand has one of the worst education systems. Students simply memorize, they don't know how to adapt and solve.

But then this leads to the bigger problem of politics. Hands down Thai politics is messy. The country has gone through as many constitutions as Prime Ministers. The Red Shirts block out a whole section of the richest district in BKK. The yellow shirts block Thailand's airport causing tourism problems. The government puts in new laws to protect themselves. When will it end?

Its not as simple as good and evil, its not as clear cut as black and white. Thailand is a huge grey area. The so called politicians, where do they get their money from? The military generals, how come 7 of them are the richest people in Thailand? What happened to the similes? What happened to peace?

This is Thailand, a land now confused of which way to go. Which road to take. It's a decision that should not lie in parliament, not in monarchy, not in politics, but in general consensus- this looks bleak.

June 9, 2010
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The world is getting crazy. Curruption and greed can be talked about all day long but will never be defeated.

 

www.myspace.com/timothysimpson

June 19, 2010
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people needa stop lookin into that in such detail....

different country different rules you dont like it dont watch it....and if i was still a lil guy i would probably be watching it to see whats goin on too

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