Friday, June 11, 2010
Gulf journals: In the oil zone with Johnny Colt

Johnny Colt wears a respirator mask while leaning over the side of a small boat. He scoops up a handful of batter-like brown muck. The signs of the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico are in his hands.

 

Colt has been traveling around the Gulf with a crew, observing the toll of the oil disaster first-hand. He went through Hazmat training and collected samples from a bay in Grand Isle, Louisiana. Since then, he’s met the mayor of Grand Isle, interviewed an inventor of a valid oil slick solution and traveled to rare dune lakes in Florida.

 

When the news of the oil disaster first broke, Colt, a musician, left his Atlanta home and sped off for the Gulf Coast.

 

"I've been coming down to the Gulf to vacation with my family for 20 years," he said. "I couldn't believe how little information we were getting. I didn't like feeling like a victim."

 

Colt talked about his journey with CNN Newsroom’s Tony Harris on Tuesday. Live from a beach in Destin, Florida, he shared the environmental horrors he’s seen.

 

"When I arrived at Grand Isle, [Louisiana], I walked beaches full of oil, I bobbed and weaved through the National Guard, there are protest cemeteries in people’s front yards …" he told Harris.

 

Even though oil slick images were all over the news, nothing could have prepared Colt for what he actually saw. "I was shocked by the epic proportions of the disaster. I expected it to be bad, but not that bad," he said.

 

Look out for Colt somewhere out on the Gulf, tracking the mess the oil disaster's left behind. The former bassist of the Black Crowes, reality show veteran and self-described independent journalist is just uncovering the many stories to be told.

 

Editor's Note: This blog post is part of a series of profiles of Gulf Coast residents and visitors directly affected by the oil disaster. If you'd like to share your story, you can upload photos and videos to CNN iReport.

79 Comments
June 11, 2010
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Nice work man. Getting the word and imagery out there is very important.

June 11, 2010
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Do you really need Level C personal protection? Do the people in the oil industry wear this protection?

June 11, 2010
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Concern is valid, however the Hazmat gear is typical of someone who is sensationalizing the issue. Of course its a terrible disaster, one of epic proportions, but the mask is a bit much I think, and certainly diminishes the value of any reporting.

 

I was raised in S. Florida in the 50's, we got tar balls even then, washed them off with boat gas...lol...and amazingly Im still healthy at 65

June 11, 2010
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Hey chevyman 

If you watch my ireport " the facts about personal protection and the BP oil spill " you will see in detail why the expert recommends this level of protection.

 

Hey wyomingguy

I am not picking up tar balls on a beach - watch the videos and get the facts. When you were picking up tarballs in the 50's, they were not saturated with Corexit 9500 or 9580. Nalco's MSDS clearly states the level of toxicity for their product. keep in mind, length of exposure, proximity to source and even the weather have an effect on overall toxicity levels.

 

I am extending an open invitation for you and anybody else to come spend the day with me floating in an ocean of oil and lets see who will be reaching for a respirator.

 

June 11, 2010
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This is an epic disaster to the people and animals that live in the area.   I think it’s great Johnny is helping the locals get their story out.     I mean with no end in sight to this destruction of our beautiful country, something big needs to be done ASAP!  And as we learned during Katrina without the media showing us what is going on, people can be left to suffer.

June 11, 2010
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Well, he we go again, on a spiritual level, this is God's enemy ruining His creation.  Through man, and his weaknesses and mistakes. All the time quarreling about it, shows a human weakness, we waste time looking to pin the blame, rather than pool resources to fight with more strength. Just because BP is guilty, we should not just let BP do the job. That is lame, this is our earth, not BP private property.

June 11, 2010
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you even use the respirator in your comment pick. Most of us know you need one. but it is a bit sensationalistic.

who vacations on the gulf?  I lived there for a year. No thanks.Glad someone has the money to travel.

June 11, 2010
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mrree, as  to your question "who vacations on the gulf", according to Alabama Gulf Coast Convention and Visitors Bureau,  in just Alabama's Baldwin County alone in 2009, 4.6 million people visited the county, accounting for $2.3 billion in visitor spending and the county has 40,000 travel-related jobs!  The total for all the counties affected on the coast must just be staggering.

June 11, 2010
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sensationalizing the issue? 

And I quote, "I was shocked by the epic proportions of the disaster. I expected it to be bad, but not that bad."

 

I think that pretty much sums it up. Unless you've been down there it's going to be near impossible for someone to even grasp how vast the destruction spreads and continues to spread.

 

 

June 11, 2010
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A mind bending thought:  after all the oil comes out will the pressure reverse?  What will be going down?

June 11, 2010
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My Compliments to Johnnycolt ... your reporting is creative and well thought out~

 

Im sure you do need a mask sitting in the gunk and although I doubt Corexit was around in the 50's Im sure the MSDS is in its self serving  CYA way correct. Then again we didn't have MSD sheets in the 50's, and a lot of us are still kickin, man that boat gas tar remover with lead additive we used was a hoot! ( tarballs happened daily btw-honestly did) One of the worst spots was on Sanibel Beach, before the bridge went in and you had to take a ferry to get there!

 

Seriously though this is in my humble opinion a huge disaster, yet often these things are sensationalized to press certain points of view and agendas. The politicians line up like ants getting in on the media opportunities, pointing fingers and making threats, the locals voice their valid concerns and on it goes. The oil/gas people were making progress on educating the public on their issues and this is the Last thing they wanted. Meanwhile the OPEC folks are smiling because they see the next price structure change in the making.

 

Again my compliments, tho Ill pass on your offer to come sit in it, been in Wyoming too long and like it too much to return to that part of the world.

 

Regards

 

June 11, 2010
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Thank you Johnny for this report. I've started a Facebook group called. BP, We Demand Respirators for ALL Clean up Workers. Please join. I'm going to link to your reports on this.

 

It looks like we will have a repeat of some of the respiratory health problems after 9/11 ground zero.

 

This is because of the EPAs lack of air quality measuring toxins at the worker level. We also have disputes about the toxicity of Corexit from its creator.

 

We need EPA to do accurate measuring because they tell OSHA to require them and then BP has to provide them. But that doesn't stop people like Johnny from wearing them now until the official EPA data arrives.

 

I'm also concerned about macho attitudes from people who think they aren't necessary. I hadn't seen them until I saw them here.

June 11, 2010
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The respirator mask and thick gloves remind me of the Coast Guard turning reporters away early on and why?  It's a hazardous environment, and the last thing clean up crews need is a boat load of yahoos getting in the way.  If someone got hurt then the blame game starts.  BP?  Obama?  Not the reporters for heaven's sake.  Good on you, Johnny Colt for citing a good example.

June 11, 2010
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I have no words for this I have lived in Florida all of my life and this just leaves me without.

June 11, 2010
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Hey Johnny...  Thanks so much for your help in getting people to realize just how devestating this disaster is.

luvnole

June 11, 2010
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It is clear that BP believes that the only person that can fix the problem is one of their engineers with a slide rule and a pocket protector loaded with pens and pencils. The first agenda should be to stop the flow of oil , then do the cleanup. Their ideas of doing this by  using golf balls, plastic toys, and other junk to plug the pipe was a joke, and this diverter pipe cap is another silly idea. If the truth were known, probably a lot of the so-called recovered oil is seawater being forced into their recovery pipe due to the high pressure at the cap.  I have responded  to the BP suggestion page site for the last 3 weeks a solution to recover ALL of the oil, but as I expected, no response. The suggestion is to  (1) Remove the cut-off pipe at he flange at the top of the diverter. (2) Install a double (side-by-side) shutoff valve on the lower pipe and secured at the flange. If they do not have access to a proper valve, one can be made by using a "Y" connection pipe and a single shutoff installed on each of the upper legs. I believe that one of the newscasters stated that this is about a 21" pipe.  The assembled shutof would be in the opened position and lowered onto the lower pipe. (3) Once secured, the valve on one side would be closed and a distribution pipe be attached to the top of the closed valve to the surface. (4) once completed, the shutoff valve can be opened slowly while the opposite one is being closed, thereby sending "All" of the oil to the surface to be collected at the top. A distribution pipe would then be installed on the other valve giving two supply lines.  I am sure that BP should have the technology to replace a valve at that depth with their hydraulic equipment and robots.  The correct amount of wasted then can be measured at the correct amount , not just (educated) guesses.  BP will have the best of both worlds, they will have all of the oil that will probably cover most of their fines and penalties, and they will have the oil stopped.  TELL ME BP, WHY CAN'T THIS WORK?

June 11, 2010
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Does BP really want to "plug it"?  Or do they really just want the oil?  I mean are they still collecting oil?   What happens when the succeed in plugging the leak, can they re-open it and start drilling again?  Or is it in BP's best interest to keep the leak open so they can collect the oil and or put a new pipe on it.

June 11, 2010
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If that were me I would have worn the whole hazmat suit (yellow booties and all). Sensationalism at its best folks.

June 12, 2010
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I want to warn homeowners. If we get storms that drive the oil into/through your property, insurance companies are going to deny all claims. They will indicate it is due to pollution. Should we have a hurricane, it will be identical to the water vs wind argument.

June 12, 2010
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makes me sick

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THEKPV

June 12, 2010
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@retireddon1

 

1.With 6-10k p.s.i. and 10-15k b.p.d. any attempt to try to "insert a pipe into it," "place a valve or fitting on top of it," will be an excersize in futility.

Its like trying to shove a wet noodle through a brick wall.

2.Bauxite, interprop,sand,rock,and God knows what else, is being flowed back from the well (because it is currently being run "full bore") will "wash out" any fittings or valves that would be placed on the riser.

I suspect....again I SUSPECT, there has been an underground blow-out.

IF this has happened the well cannot be "just closed in."

An underground blow-out would mean that the concrete around the caseing,the screens, the concrete at the zones and probably the packers are gone.

The blow-out, (which I also suspect is the culprit of this disaster), has also distorted the rock formations, the original perforations and fractures that were done to produce the well.

If you close in the well, fissures in the rock will push the oil to the ocean floor,and then to the surface... you'll have leaks in 100 different locations all around the well

The only solution is un-fortunetly the relief wells...Providing that there still is a caseing to drill into..

If there is no caseing, or it has been compromised, you can say good-bye to August....closer to Christmas would probably be more accurate.

sorry

 

 

June 12, 2010
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to John109--The solution that I suggested would at no time restrict the flow of crude oil any more than what it is flowing right now. I agree that if the flow was capped or stopped in any way, that all hell might break loose. The double shutoff idea would not restrict the flow in any way.  If the pipe casing is 21" and the shutoff valves are 21" flow would remain the same and not be affected. The only reason for the two valves, is that only one side would be closed while the distribution pipe to the surface is installed. Once installed, that side would be open dispensing all the oil to the surface after the opposite valve is closed. Once the second valve distribution pipe is installed to the surface, the only problem that BP might have then is getting  enough tankers to the site to fill.  This is only a idea to transfer the oil from the bottom of the gulf to the surface. The pressure on the pipe will at all time be the same as it is now. The special shutoffs valves that are on the market will far outlast the pipe coming out of the diverter. If BP is capable of drilling relief wells a couple of miles below the surface in hopes of intercepting the affected casing taking a couple of months, that a repair of removing a flange and installing a double (side-by-side)valve could be done in less than a week. The only way that a effective cleanup can be done on the surface is to stop the flow at the bottom.  That silly diverter cap has to be discarded because I am sure that a lot of that so-called crude oil is seawater being sucked up through the area of the cut-off pipe.  I am sure that (hopefully) a more permanent repair could be made at a later date, but this is the only logical way to get the oil to the surface at the present.  Sometimes the simplest solution is the best solution.

June 12, 2010
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I am a proud oil worker from Northern Alberta.I have an amazing idea to reduce the flow of the BP well.At work I use stainless steel plates to measure and restrict flow from oil and gas wells.100% of the time we have control of our wells.In this case with the BP well we have no control due to the failed BOP.We need to find a way to restrict the flow.A new idea I have is called the choke blanket.A series of stainless steel plates linked and joined together and formed into a large blanket.the choke blanket would then be placed over top of the well and begin restriction,followed by another blanket with a smaller chokes.Continue to layer these weighted blankets over top of the well smaller and smaller with each weighted blanket,this should restrict the flow.This would reduce the flow.The Choke Blankets would not totally stop the flow but reduce the flow until relief wells are in place.If anyone is interested in my idea or would like to see my blueprints please let me know.

June 12, 2010
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I think Obama should order every American Oil company with deep water rigs to have them seal up what they are doing where they are and be re deployed to the Gulf.  Get every piece of equipment on site to suck up the crude.  Put a halt to every tanker we have and deploy them to the Gulf.  Even if it is different companies they should all have to ban together to help fix this.  Make the executive order Obama!!!!  Every tanker, every rig.....  DO IT NOW

June 12, 2010
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I have one question. As BP has lied, dragged their feet and seemingly refused to stop the oil leak, can they be held accountable as commiting a terroristic act on America by Homeland Security? From the live BP videos I have seen they can stop the oil leak with about $3,000 worth of pipe, flanges one valve and one days worth of work by a welder-fitter. I have done this type of work since 1979. It would probably take all of 5 days to install it in place. Let's face it, "IF" someone named Taliban or Al-Qaeda was responsible for the continuing , non-stop death of so much marine life, foodstocks and deliberate destruction of our coastlines, they would get hammered by our federal government. Maybe it's just me, but, I find this ongoing situation more than just a little suspicious. They have received thousands of ideas to stop the flow, yet they plan on trading out one top cap that catches 10% of the leak and will install one that " may " capture 20%. Something smells fishy, and it ain't the dead sardines in the gulf!!!

June 12, 2010
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@retiredon

 

 

 

1.With 6-10k p.s.i. and 10-15k b.p.d. any attempt to try to "insert a pipe into it," "place a valve or fitting on top of it," will be an excersize in futility.

Its like trying to shove a wet noodle through a brick wall.

2.Bauxite, interprop,sand,rock,and God knows what else, is being flowed back from the well (because it is currently being run "full bore") will "wash out" any fittings or valves that would be placed on the riser.

3.WKM,Stockham,Crane even Halliburton...(yes Haliburton, they make valves)will tell you that even with API6A spec...and NACE MR-01-75, they will NOT hold up to sand, Baux, prop for more than a few minutes at this rate. These valves have Monel seats and trims.

These valves are rated for 10,000 psi working pressure.

Haliburton has chixsons and choke manifolds that are rated for 15,000 and above working pressures and none of them will hold up for more than a couple of hours to the sand blasting rate this well is flowing.

Frac pacs, horizonal sand traps and screens are used to stop this event from happening...but ONLY DURING WELL  DEVELOPMENT.

I want to see the crane that will hold up 1 MILE of pipe, 21" in diameter while it is being put together.... even one 20' section at a time...the weight figures to be hundreds of thousands of tons.....times 2 pipes.

We all have a live feed from the incident...but if you and I could hear this thing...we would both need a clean pair of shorts...It probably sounds like 100 locomotives.

Hell I agree with you...something needs to be done...Its very frusrtating to all concerned...

You almost feel helpless.

 

 

Sad part is the relief well(s) are NOT A GUARANTEE!

If there has been a under sea blow-out....

 

 

God help us all

 

 

 

 

 

 

June 12, 2010
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Suggestion for oil spill, Why dont they send a Drill back into the well to stop the oil from flowing, they could then tap into the drill bit to make a relief valve to relieve pressure. if this continues there will be no gulf coast for the future.

June 12, 2010
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The oil spill is the south's 911. People have died, untold numbers of wildlife have died, and a way of life for thousands is gone. I thank God that my children got a chance to see the beautiful shores fo Alabama last year. I doubt that my children's, children's, children will ever get the chance!!!!!!!!!!!Just a tit-for-tat BPBAMA.

June 13, 2010
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I see alot of comments from people who have no idea how all this works and I see comments from people who have worked the patch I think the people who have no clue (but think they do) should keep it to themselves

June 13, 2010
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I wonder why they have not installed a second blowout preventer on top of the fail one? It was in there suggested things to try in the event the top kill didn't work. Seems to me BP does not want to shut the well down but to recover oil from the failed well.

June 13, 2010
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This idea may work for shutting down the well.Maby worth a try. I understand that the pipe is approx,21" in Dia.with some projections. If we could build a ClamShell type container hinged down one side with long threaded bolts at the open side.Closing the device around the head of the venting pipe.The container could be filled with Ballistics Gel before it is closed , as this would squeeze around the blowout and become tighter as you tighten the threaded bolts, wish I had a way to do a diagram. If you picture a water heater split lengthwise, put hinges down the backside. On the front,weld cleats and long bolts that could be swung into the cleats and tightened down. Ballistics Gel or something similar must be put into both halves of this thing and held in place by plastic sheeting. Close the ClamShell around the Pipe, swing bolts in place, tighten down the nuts. To hold the pressure use whatever gauge steel necessary( (NOT A WATER HEATER)21" or 22" opening at the bottom, gasket up the back, across the top and down the front will help the Ballistics Gel make a better seal. By the way, the Gel should already be "SET" BEFORE lowering this thing into place. Does this make any sence?

mussel4627@yahoo.com. write me and let me know if you understand what I`m talking about .

June 13, 2010
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No ideas will work, when the Government refuses to react to this desater ;in which,is a strike against all man kind, and the echo system,  this Oil spill, and the U.S. Government, together will destroy much in our lives at our expences, for the Government is not for the people ,nor does this government respect us nor nature. For some reason, this Government does not want to do anything to assist the Gulf in any issues to help there, it is been going on for a few years , no assistance to New Orleans area for some reason.

   Obama adminstration is no better there , than Pres. Bush, so now Bush is not so bad, who is running the White House, not the President's, it is someone we must not see.

June 13, 2010
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Welcome to hell. Would you like a large cup of sludge to go with that dish of death today?

June 13, 2010
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I am not sure where to post my idea, or how to clean up the oil already spilled, but I think that BP could surround off the area that it is spilling to where the oil goes straight up...like with an extremely wide and long straw that surrounds the rig and they could gather the oil as it goes up. They would not have to worry about the pressure then.

June 13, 2010
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To John109,

 

I am one who has summitted ideas like retireddon1 over the last few weeks.  Your reply appears that you are someone who is either in the oil industry or close to it. Your response is the first I've seen as to why valves won't work, and as to the sand blasting effects which could be present at the pressures that may be present. The only problems I have are how is it possible that BP was able to install a cap that has not disinegrated as a result of the "sand blasting"!  Also, how were they able to even place that "cap" on the well if the pressures are so great that it "would be like trying to put a noddle through a brick wall"?  In addition to this, if it is now being said that any attempt to "cap" the well could lead to multiple fractures in the casings, why is a BOP used in the first place?  A BOP is designed to stop all flow of oil apon activation!  In addition to that what was BP thinking of in their attempts to apply "Junk shots, drilling mud, and concrete to PLUG the well when that proceedure is so likely to cause the casings to fracture?  retiredon1's solution is the same as what Iv'e been saying the past two weeks, and neither of us is suggesting that you PLUG the well by using VALVES. We are both avocating that you CONTROL the well! If what you are saying is all fact, then it leaves the question as to what any oil company in their right mind is doing drilling at those depths in the first place?  Are the margens so narrow that safe methods of extracting oil from those depth are only possible if every thing goes perfect?  Your statements are saying that it't an impossible situation and we may as well all accept the the reality the the Gulf is destined to become an oil sespool!  I,m sorry, but I can't subscribe to that thinking!  If a ball valve is left wide open, and is the same diameter as the pipe feeding it, and it's constructed of tough materials, how is it going to be "washed" out of the pipe? For that matter why are there companies that make these valves for deepwater drilling applications even in the business when their product is so likely to be destroyed?

June 13, 2010
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To : Retiredon1

Ok,

"The Cap," which by the way, I am kinda impressed with from the point of view that they were able to do anything, has vents on the top side of it...this is to allow the pressure that the device itself cannot withstand to escape... auto-clave weep-holes if you will. I also suspect that they are not capturing all they say they are...judging by the flame on the flare stack on the rig above the site.

If you notice they are replacing the cap with another bigger one tommorrow..I suspect it is an effort to try to capture more of the product comming out of the well...AND I feel quite certain that this "cap" has probably had it.

For your next question..

What I suspect has probably happened, that created this problem, is and underground blow-out.

So the question is What is up with this B.O.P. if it will destroy the environment if you use it?

On land, in this situation, you would have the same problem..only difference is...you can see..feel touch the well-head...there would be the initial fire, explosives would be brought in and detonated to extinguish the fire...and then close the tubeing strand valves at the base and the process would be basically over...that is, you can get to it to do something. This would be accomplished within a day. If there has been a underground blow-out on land the original perforations and fractures would still seep to the surface...in a hundred different places...but again you can get to it...put your hands on it barricade it, coffer dams ect.

Now there is sea bottom...which is basically silt...mud not terria-firma.

"The Junk Shot"

Mud pumps are primarily used for drilling procedures, and I believe that they thought they could overcome the pressures of the well with the mud pumps and "put the Genie back in the bottle," And looking like they are trying to do something. But again..I think that they have had an underground blow-out and the resulting "shutting in of the well" would result in the same consequences....Oil seeping up through fissures in the rock, and eventually, the sea bed in a hundred different locations, that you can see, but do practically nothing about.

The Valves... When a well is drilled a "Log" from a "Logging Rig" is run (this tells the driller where the formations of oil are, and where to perforate, frac.

Expectations of sand are made and sand screens, rock, prop, and frac fluids are used. These proceedures slow down substancially the presence of sand traveling up through the tubeing strands and "washing out" the valves on the tree and the manifold. But again if these valves go bad you can walk up to it, touch it, see it, and repair it. A produceing well is NOT run full bore..they are run through chokes to regulate the flow and pressure as not to bring up solids from below. 

And yes, believe it or not, the margins of accuracy are extemely close when you are dealing with these depths, because again....you can't touch it...put your hands on it...see it with your own eyes. If you screw-up...your gonna pay, and pay dearly...as you see.

I know, I know, seems nuts-so doesn't it?

I am currently retired from and oil-field service company and when they were talking about drilling in these depths originally, the discussion came up often...What if you have a problem??? How are you going to fix it?? Call Mr. Limpit? We all laughed about it then...but its not funny anymore..

 

Its tragic  

June 13, 2010
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Does anyone know if there is a drill pipe inside the blow out preventer or not

June 13, 2010
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I think Obama is to blame.  Other than threats of violence he has taken no real steps to clean the oil or stop the leak.  The Obama administration should have at least tried to stop the oil from reaching the coast, it is obvious BP wants nothing to do with the cleanup efforts.  Obama sat by idly for a month as the oil came closer to shore.  Obama is weak and behind the talk there is no action.

June 13, 2010
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BP oil spill the greatest enviromental disaster ever? Really? Every day the mountains of the Appalachians are blown up and the worlds most biodiverse forest, second only to the Amazon, is being bulldozed into the valleys. All for what, 10% of the nations coal. The coal companies call it Mountain Top Removal. In reality its the total obliteration of the land and a culture. This has been happening for decades, but as long as people have cheaper electric bills, who cares about the people of Appalachia, right? I mean rich people love the beach, who cares about the poor people in the mountains, right? If millions of gallons of oil were gushing out here in WV people would turn their heads. Theyre already pumping BILLIONS of gallons of toxic coal slurry into impoundments held back only by dirt and rock dams. Nearly 2000 miles of streams have been buried or polluted by MTR valley fills and toxic run-off. 3,000,000 pounds of explosives are used on the mountains in WV alone every working day. 1 million acres of Appalachian forest and lands have been leveled, but less than 3% have been reclaimed for commercial or industrial use. Top coal producing counties in WV suffer from some of the worst poverty and unemployment rates in the nation. Residents who live in the coalfields live with increased flooding, blasting that damages homes, air filled with silica and toxic coal dust, plus poisoned water supplies. Is the oil spill bad? Yes. However, when compaired to Mountain Top Removal, I hardly see how it can be called the worst. The oceans will recover LONG before the mountains ever will.....if they ever do.

June 13, 2010
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Will any of us recover from the devastation our government has  brought upon us all.  I personally had no idea of the horror show happening in the Mountains.  There are so many atrocities happening to our earth. It is stories like yours that need to be shared.

June 14, 2010
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2010, the year the earth bled death. If you think the gulf oil spill is a problem now, you ain't seen nothing yet. November is a long way away.

June 14, 2010
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This Oil catasphroee is blooody ridiculous.  Now that we all know |BP is NOT or NEVER going to taqke this serious... The solution is something that BP has been doing thier entire life!!  Now that BP has proven to the world that they can operate little robots at an enormous depth... "Knock the friggin cap off and pipe the leak up to the surface as you have with everyother well that has made by BP. Isn't that what you have always done? Drill down 30 meters...stop...retool to lower pipe down ... Stop ... retool to drill down another 30 meters.... Stop retool.... Hey BP get what i mean yet? ... there is to much going on with the cleqanup when the oil is still pouring out...  there are many people on this planet that are capable of stoping or i mean finishing the well for BP... Most importantly ... TOP THE WELL!!

I'm sure with enough men and the right equipment to lower 4-5 lengths to the depths and have these robots place the pipe over the existiing hole/pipe after knocking the cap off!!!!!!

BP is obviously NOT to concerned........lets get moving now.....put the right people on the job and finish the leak by completeing the well!!

Time is of ALL essence...is way past us now!!!!!!

June 14, 2010
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John109!   Glad to hear more from you!  I in fact am thrilled to began seeing some dialog over wheather this well can be tamed or not!  I have hopes that this stimulates some response from others who have opinions on this subject!  Your assessments seem to be well informed.  The only thing that seems to be lacking is any willingness to see any ideas that could lead to a solution! While you explain the obstacales and reasons as to why this or  that won't work, I have to reaserve some question as to wheather we're all doomed or not?  These are problems, and problems provide an opportunity for solutions!  I hope others, with as much knowledge as yourself, will join in on this debate and perhaps offer us some hope for a way to control that well, without having to wait two or more months to pass before we can hope to tame it!  If we can't find a way to do it before the new holes are drilled, then we may  have doomed any prospects of continuing with deep water drilling!  I continue to believe that there has got to be a way to get around  the incirmountable problems you describe, and welcome input from others!  In the meantime I will continue to pursue my hopeless beliefs that the the well can be controlled, long before august or later, if we put our heads togeather and DON'T GIVE UP!!!

 

June 14, 2010
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Hey, back again.  Glad for the information of the pressure on the BOP casing of being anywhere from 2,000 to 50,000 psi,  ?????? What a range. A statement that the idea of a double control valve would not work because the oil flow along with all the sand, rocks, and other debris would wash out the valve and the distribution pipe and render them useless.  Gee, maybe they could construct a superior valve made out of the same material that that diverter cap is made out of and maybe throw in some of those relief vents that are not hindered with all of the debris and waste coming up the pipe.  (No sarcasm intended) If Haliburton  is involved, then they are really in trouble.  Check online about all of the shady practices that they are involved in, oh I forgot, I believe that I read somewhere that they poured the base that the Blow out preventer is resting on.  I have read on line about the many incidents of the BOP failures. It is clear that they do not have enough fail-safe features included in the BOP casing, I have checked online, and the BOP is really impressive with all of that technology built into it. It is pretty, but now they need to get it to work.  Yes , it was stated that the well may have had a blowout below the BOP , so why was BP alowed to drill without any possible back-up plan in place.  How many more of these deepwater wells are approved to be drilled with no plans for a blowout. I have heard that they had numerous safety violations against the well but BP believed that they were exempt from all of them.  (I believe that the reason for safety inspections are to make working conditions safe for the workers.) Now for another solution. The BOP is dead, (not working), and according to a above source the pipe coming up the center of the BOP will be eroded away.. The BOP needs to be completely encased in high pressure concrete so only the top flange of the pipe will be accessable. A form would have to be made and lowered over the BOP, and then filled with high pressure concrete, and another specially designed BOP installed with A larger center pipe that would relieve some pressure on the pipe.  (If the pipe is 21", then the center center of the new BOP could be 24"-28") I know, that this sounds almost impossible to do, but what is BP doing to stop the flow.***** Now here is where I am going to lose a few****When man starts messing with Gods creation to this extent, they are sure to fail.  We were blessed with many different resources that were to be used my man to better mankind.  The industrial revolution is a perfect illustration how these resources and the enviroment contributed to the betterment of man. This is a man-made disaster that we have to contend with due to GREED, and NEGLIGENCE. As most of the people that live in the gulf area know, it is a beautiful place to live and to visit. I have visited the south many times and haved enjoyed Gods creation, and the sunsets are wonderful.  How long will it be before some idiot will decide to drill into the center core of the earth and pipe up heat to the surface.

June 14, 2010
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The fix is simple yet expensive.

If there was a massive half circle dome placed over the whole leak with a pipe through the top, just like a chimney in a fireplace the oil would go up the pipe

 

If this dome was heavy and cemented into the ground it would provide a means to collect the oil by have multiple oil carriers prepared and on the ready

One right after the other 24/7 collecting oil

 

It would not have to be a multi ton object, as there would be a means for the oil to transfer there would not be so much pressure

 

BP gets its oil and we get the leak stopped

Its win either way

 

Or if they did not want to contain it with sea vessels they could make a very large pipe run the oil from the leak to the shore.

 

This needs to stop now..not weeks from now -_-

June 15, 2010
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Check the date and time.

 

retired driller   June 8th, 2010 11:31 am ET

 

First of all, from ALL of us on this blog, I would like to extend my deepest sympathy to the 11 families who lost their loved ones in this terrible, and tradgic incident.

May God give you peace, comfort and hold you in the palm of his hand.

 

Next, may God give the clean-up workers his providence and protect them in their task.

 

It appears to me that there is enough blame to go around from all parties involved.

I really don't believe that this situation is ALL BP's fault.

Once the well is closed in and the B.O.P. is retrieved some of the answers will be known.

I think that there are some problems with the packers and the service company who did the original completion on the well...Who is this you say? I dont know...I really don't want to know...at this point it does not make any difference.

The original cement job at the formation, and the packers failed.

Looks like a surge of gas came up through the zone, broke the cement job, blew through the packers and now you have product in the caseing.

The wing valves,that open and close from the formations below are toast...BP has tried to close these "vents" and has been able to close one of the four. As I stated earlier, with these types of pressures and volumes, the trims on all the valves on the tree have been washed out...there is not much left to close. Monel trims or not.

Again, nothing will change until the relief well has been completed and the well is filled with concrete.

Mr. Cameron I believe miss-spoke when he stated that you can't close in the well..Yes you can close it in...just not abruptly...hence choke manifolds, which throttle down rates and pressures in a controlled enviroment.

 

June 15, 2010
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@RETIREDON1, MELMAN03

 

Now.... I think you may have something!....I wish I could say more and give you a little insight on whats happening currently within the industry...However I don't want to say much more in a public forum, because I am NOT POSITIVE on what is going on... Theses are multi- billion dollar corporations...hummm... see what I mean? A person can't go around publicly making accusations, finding fault, and laying blame with out winding up in court.

 

 

June 16, 2010
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I think we've finally done it.  We've ruined the world.  Is there really any point in 'Going green' now?

June 16, 2010
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Let me ask the question that I haven't heard asked yet:

Are we trying to cap the leak or "contain" the leak?

There's a fundamental difference between the two. Capping the leak stops the flow. Completely. Plumber do this all the time by threading a broken pipe and screwing a cap on it. Containing the leak means salvaging the existing well in such a way that it is usable and stabalized.

June 16, 2010
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Hmmm....  john109,  I'm having a slight problem understanding why it is that although the abrasive effects of sand, baux, etc. are going to destroy any kind of valve one attempts to put on it, those same effects did'nt seem to eat through the crimped over riser pipe even though it was being "blasted" from the time the drill platform sunk on 4/22 to the time they cut off the riser on 6/03?  Is the riser pipe constructed out of vastly superior materials than any valve could be expected to use?  How can a riser pipe last for almost a month and a half, yet a valve will fail supposedly after only a few hours? I, personally find that hard to believe!  But maybe you can show me where i.m wrong!

June 16, 2010
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Thanks media! Tone it down we might pay more attention to what you have to say.

June 16, 2010
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Obama will do the right thing, stay strong and keep protecting us. Making mistakes gives you the opportunity to learn and change things.

June 16, 2010
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my comment.........i m tired of hearing about all the hullaballou from the media........on and on and on........

 

just give me a shout when the damn hole is plugged.

June 16, 2010
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The Deep Water Royalty Relief Act of 1995 was a Republican piece of legislation signed by then-President Clinton. It came up for renewal under Dubya again in 2005. Let’s not jest. This “act” created an undue risk subsidy, a relief from common sense and controllership, which has disturbing similarities to the repeal of Glass Steagall, paving way to unchecked and over-leveraged risk taking in the industry. As a result, toxic brew spilled over the entire economy. The entire idea, the political platform of deregulation is what had brought us here. The belief that by bending (or breaking and removing) rules to match big business interests, there would be some magical, intrinsic, new value added to the economy at large. If there were any “lessons learned”, any valuable takeways from all this drama, it was that the “trickle down” voodoo economics of Reagan were finally dispelled once and for all, and I am hoping the Kenesian “theorists” are next up on the chopping block. For all of you rednecks, it’s where Obama is from. Just kidding, of course, our President was born in the state of Hawaii. I do see quite a few of foil wrap heads around here…you people are like our own little domestic Al Qaeda, total ragheads, ignorant to boot and all that, but it’s nice to see you at least have a drive. You come here and you post your daily dumb s---t which is hilarious at best.

Obama is left to deal with a string of SYSTEMIC crises - from Wall Street to the Gulf disaster, the government has been consistently declawed and disbarred by Republicans from staying in charge. Do any of you fools actually believe McCain would have plugged the hole with Sarah Palin's new implants? Lol. Get real. Obama has been dealt a horrible hand, thanks in part to his predecessors who could care less about the economic and governance fundamentals, and more about pleasing their corporate masters. Now the same hypocrits are trying to make him a fall guy. Obama is doing what he can, and doing it well. You can bank $20B on it.

 

June 16, 2010
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Use nature's own calcium deposits like white blood cells and make a wire bandage to allow the calcium to grow around the leak stopping it quickly, naturally, and completely.

June 16, 2010
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more mercury and lead for all... three eyed tuna blackened just the way we like it. Let's put a nuclear plant out there and see what happens. zombie sharks.side note: plastic ocean in the pacific. plastic comes from crude oil. need to find alternatives.

June 16, 2010
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I feel for the people in the Gulf.. Very few understood (or still understand) how much suffering was felt by the people of Bhopal (India) which was the scene of the worst industrial disaster perpetrated by Union Carbide (Dow chemicals)... With these disasters, it is harder and harder to trust large corporations. In both cases, the people who suffer most are the ordinary people (in Bhopal, the people were downright penniless).

June 16, 2010
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tell us how to help, the nation and it's people want to help.  Not all of us can go there but we want to help !!!!  Give us instruction that we can use... Change our thoughts on how we as a nations watch what is happening. Let us help you help yourself, let us prop you while your tired and changed.  Let us help...

June 16, 2010
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Remove the remaining sheared flange-piece from the top of the failed BOP Stack (about 6 visible bolts).Should leave a flat-surface for this suggested repair..Use the ROV's full video,tool,torque & wrench capabilities.Bring sheared piece top side for flange match.Weld & construct a new straight riser-pipe of equal dimension ,4 ft.high.Locate a New Dual or Tripple Ram-BOP(blow out preventor 4-6 ft.in total height). Assemble the two pieces on deck.Lower onto existing subsea BOP Stack or tree & re-assemble (bolt).BOP Valves will be in full-open position & the flow will not be impeaded at this stage.The reason for the new 4 ft.riser-pipe is to improve the ROV's working room & visual capability during the assembly (repair) process.Next shut-down the BOP's closure valves mechanically(slowly to compensate for pressure, until closed off).The ROV is fully capable of the task. See just released Hi-Res Video Capture just after the bent-riser was sheared-off.The idea might be feasible.One sure way to determine leaks from sea fracture,the casing,cement job or lower stack damage!The BP capture system can still be placed over this suggested repair solution.

June 16, 2010
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I know exactly what to do: send Republicans and Wall St and BP to clean up the mess in the Gulf. I completely agree with the comment on this page which said that Obama has been dealt a horrible hand by the Republicans

June 16, 2010
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Just get in line on that $20 billion gravy train. Getsuumm!!!

June 16, 2010
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Obama should have taken the Dutch up on their offer to bring ships over a week after the spill and start cleaning up. He is using this tragedy to push the agenda he has had from the beginning- Cap and Trade. The death of every animal is on his hands, while he hangs out at social affairs. The joke is on all of us.  

June 16, 2010
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We can run our cars on wind power- Obama's full of hot air. That's a good source of clean energy right there.

June 16, 2010
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We have to remember that this is a man made disaster, not an act of God. The disaster is still happening, too. There is also no assurance that the relief well that will be finished in August will work. Some experts say it could trigger a new explosion and make the problem even worse. The oil that has come ashore so far is only the start. It's going to keep coming, and coming and coming... 2.5 million additional gallons a day. It's possible that the well may never be capped. We may have unleashed something we cannot control.

 

At this point, beginning clean up is almost silly. It only serves as a publicity stunt for BP. It doesn't matter how many booms are out there. When rough weather strikes, the oil will be coming ashore. We haven't even begun to see or fully realize the magnitude of the problem. This will surely bankrupt BP in time, and U.S. taxpayers will be left with the bill.

 

When the next election comes around, just remember which party was out there shouting "Drill, Baby, Drill."

June 16, 2010
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RED TAPE WITH MONEY MADE FORM ALL ON EARTH MAKES US ALL WAIT UNTILL ITS TOO LATE. WE ARE ALL ON THIS ROCK TOGETHER . We  all need to start understanding our past problems here on earth now.  Not have them happen on and on to where its not if, its when will be too late to do anything about it. EXXON Val Alaska still has oil on their coast line 2010. Why do we wait untill its too late ? MS Gulf Coast is my home ! I am doing the clean up work with the Vessels of Opp and can tell you that its realy a nightmare now that it will soon become reality in our way of life for ever.

June 17, 2010
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The press conference broadcast on c-span 06/16/2010 offered some amazing news.Robert Gibbs, Admr. Thad Allen & Carol Browner (assistant to the Pres.on Energy & Climate Change).Ms. Browner announced the impending removal of the sheared-flange piece from the top of the failed BOP Stack.The replacement riser piece (of unannounced configuration),"is being forged in the foundry as we speak!"..."this has never been done before"..."the sheared riser pipe will be unbolted & replaced with the new forged riser pipe"..."it will then be bolted on to the existing flange"...

 

An attempted shut-down cure is on the horizon !

 

Hopefully this will be attempted before BP's larger capture dome is sent to the mirky depths !...

June 17, 2010
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Thank You JOHNNY COLT!  My hubby takes care of hazardous waste in order to support his family and he suits up everyday to proctect himself BECAUSE he loves his family!  My father was born in Mobile in 1939.  When his family moved away from there in the late 40's they always returned for their vacation.  Then, my parents started their family and guess what...they decided there was no better place to go than Gulf Shores, AL.  Now, my hubby and I do the same for our kids.  It IS the most beautiful beach you will ever see or walk on!!  I pray for the communities and people that live and work along that beautiful coast...I pray it will soon return to the coast we dream about.

June 17, 2010
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In response to MECENG: 

(this is straight from  Wikipedia)

 

Deepwater Horizon blowout

Main article: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

After the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion on April 20, 2010, the blowout preventer should have activated itself automatically to avoid an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Underwater robots were used to manually activate the mechanism's switch, to no avail. As of May 2010[update] it is unknown why it failed.[4] Chief surveyor John David Forsyth of the American Bureau of Shipping testified in hearings before the Joint Investigation[5] of the Minerals Management Service and the U.S. Coast Guard investigating the causes of the explosion that his agency last inspected the rig's failed blowout preventer in 2005.[6] BP representatives suggested that the preventer could have suffered a hydraulic leak.[7] X-ray imaging of the preventer conducted on May 12 and May 13, 2010 showed that the preventer's internal valves were partially closed and were restricting the flow of oil. Whether the valves closed automatically during the explosion or were shut manually by remotely operated vehicle work is unknown.[7]

 

The permit for the Macondo Prospect by the Minerals Management Service in 2009 did not require redundant acoustic actuation means.[8] Inasmuch as the BOPs could not be closed successfully by underwater manipulation, pending results of a complete investigation it is uncertain whether this omission was a factor in the blowout.

 

edit As a metaphor

In the aftermath of the Deepwater Horizon spill, the term blowout preventer has found use in the vernacular, in the sense of a person being accused of speaking rashly or falsely – therefore needing a blowout preventer. It was used in at least one case by White House spokesman Robert Gibbs in that sense.[9]

 

 

June 17, 2010
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Wow

 

does every commentor have an agenda to push?

 

Well, everything included: coal mining, blowout preventors, the oval office address, the $20bill cash train, the FELLOW AMERICANS so easily classified as leaches...all of it is an argument about environmental accountability; secondary to that: an argument about Federal regulations pertaining to the profitability of exploiting the scarce resources in said environment (which happens to be the private land OWNED BY US CITIZENS).  Everyone's a critic.  We all fight for a cause; but who dares to offer a solution??  It only matters when you can change our future culture. Critisizing our current situation...how does that help us? Does it ever help anyone? Anywher?

June 17, 2010
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I would like to see more coverage of the media blackout that BP & our government are still imposing according to an Associated Press letter sent to President Obama and made public yesterday just yesterday. Why is this getting so little coverage by CNN?

June 17, 2010
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Wow, I didn't realize the Brown Pelican was Christian, stop being a whiner and CONTRIBUTE to the solution, what your doing is the equivalent of taking pictures of someone that is being attacked and doing nothing to stop it, I’m sure the victim would be so grateful. If it really bothers you go get a degree in some field that will help with this disaster and contribute to making it better again.

June 17, 2010
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2-months of complaining is old and I'm tired of the constant media attention to it.  BP is cleaning up and paying up, which doesn't mean they should be congratulated, but at least they're doing that.  Furthermore, both the government and BP are working hard.  Unfortunately, this is a bad accident that will take time to cure if everything is curable.  The whining and complaining need to cease because it's not adding anything to the solution.

June 17, 2010
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I love it. But how many trees did they cut down to make those signs? think about it<> is there a better way?

June 17, 2010
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Making all those trips to the Gulf uses up a lot of gas doesn't it?

June 17, 2010
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Could somebody explain to me why the US government did not act quickly on this disaster? Seriously, who's in charge when something like this happens?  What we needed from day one was somebody to step up and establish two teams: one team to stop the leak and the other team to contain the oil before it reaches the coastal areas.  Let me repeat… before the oil reaches the coastal areas!  With the first team continuing to work on the leak, the second team could have constructed a flotilla of thousands of vessels (navy, coast guard, commercial ships, containment ships etc) to form a massive series of temporary man-made barriers (using buoyant booms) to completely surround the slick and keep the oil from spreading out.  During and after construction of the barriers, we should have been skimming and employing other countermeasures while the slick remained out at sea.  Again... while the slick remained out at sea!  Obama you screwed up.  The oil slick made it to the coast and now all you got is words.  Stop playing the blame game.  Words will not solve the ecological impact of this disaster.  We will have have years to "lawyer up" and go after BP.  The wonderful people of the gulf coast want action not words.        

June 17, 2010
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It's an environmental disaster. Truly. Think about who we have become as a society when we decry the death of non-human species with non-secular crosses, yet we abort over 10,000 human beings everyday and think nothing about it. People upset about birds covered in oil eat at KFC. People upset by the suffering of innocent animals watch animal planet while a lion shreds a zebra. Where did we lose our way?

June 17, 2010
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How to stop gulf oil leak, ask an engineer to look at this.

          Take 3x3x1/2, or 6x6x1/2 inch tube steel and build a rectangular frame with the inside of frame a few inches wider than the flanges that would extend from a few inches below the bottom flange to 3 or 4 ft above the top of the leaking riser, on the bottom of the frame put 4 hydraulic cylinders on all sides pointing inward, and on the top center of the frame put a bigger hydraulic cylinder with a tapered metal plug a few inches round at the bottom to 1 or2 thousands of an inch bigger than the inside diameter of the riser, looking downward.

     This outfit can be lowered over the leaking riser pipe and the bottom cylinders all activated inward to get a tight grip on the riser just below the bottom flange, after this activate the top cylinder to shove the plug into the pipe, the taper should take any deformalities out of the pipe for a tight seal. This can be done by using the underwater robots. Thanks randy

 

June 17, 2010
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To 1NAVYMAN    Your referance to a news conferance on c-span stating that an announcement by Carol Browner saying that a plan to replace the chopped up riser pipe and flange with a new riser pipe of some unspecified design, was in the mill, comes as welcome news to those of us who have advocated that very action for the past several weeks!  If this is the case it would also appear that perhaps they are setting up to try something other than the leaky "cap" method! Thanks for the info!  I hope we hear more about this plan in the next few days!

June 22, 2010
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Im in the National Guard from Kansas. A few years back there was a flood and an oil spill that hit the town of Coffeeville at the same time. I was called up to help the community by providing security for the areas affected by preventing looting. I saw the entire area that the oil affected while I was on patrols. Ive never seen anything that resembled the destruction that the oil did to the town. The majority of the houses were considered a toxic area to inhabit and were thus deemed unsafe by FEMA. I can tell you that we were in an area were the oil had been dispersed out into a large area of the community and even then soldiers were getting sick from the air quality. I cant imagine how the air must be down there. Every plant that the oil came into contact with was dieing. There was literally a dead line from the ground to height of about four feet throughout the entire area. It was unbelievable how dead everything was.

 

All that being said, I just wanna say thanks to all the people out there who through generalized apathy and a lack of sense of responsibilty to the planet have in effect okayed this event. Im sure my children are going to be incredibly happy with the results of this one. Our species is nothing more than a virus anyways.

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