Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Tourist photos of hijacked bus tacky?

The Philippines is mourning after a bus hijacking left eight tourists from Hong Kong, China, dead. Despite the national day of mourning, tourists have been snapping away photos of the bus that had been hijacked.

 

Several iReporters from the Philippines and Hong Kong expressed their anger and frustration when photographs surfaced of Filipinos and officers posing in front of the damaged bus.

 

"Would it be so hard to refrain from posing and having your pictures taken near the hell bus that claimed several lives?" asked iReporter ElBar.

 

"Would it be too much to ask to show some respect to the people who have been injured, traumatized and robbed of family? Can we not show some decency and propriety at a time like this?"

 

Another iReporter, HongThai, summed up his feelings in one sentence: "Conduct unbecoming an officer, a nation and its people."

 

iReporter carloice photographed a flock of tourists taking photos of the hijacked bus. He did not feel disrespected, as "it's natural for people to be curious," he said. He and his family watch the saga unfold on TV and they were shocked when some of the hostages were killed.

 

Manila resident Sherbien wanted to apologize to the victims. "On behalf of all Filipinos, we are sorry for what had happen to the tourists who visited our country." He was on the scene two hours after the hostage incident, saying he smelled tear gas and blood as he covered the story.

 

What do you think of the tourists posing in front of the bus? Is it in poor taste, or is it just innocent curiosity? Send us an iReport or share your thoughts in the comments.

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August 25, 2010
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As a representative of the Filipino youth:

We Filipinos really feel sorry for what had happen to your fellow citizens during their said vacation tour here in our country. We ask for your forgiveness because of what Police Senior Insp. Rolando Mendoza has done to the Chinese nationals who visited our country, don’t get mad at us, because we didn’t expect and we don’t want that kind of thing to happen, because here in our country we treat foreigners as our own family and as our own brothers and sisters. It is just that sometimes people commit mistakes and we apologized for that kind of behavior that our fellow citizen has done to yours. We know that you’re in great pain right now but hatred cannot make everything alright it will just boost your grief, your sorrow and your pain but it can’t bring the life of your love ones back. 

Yesterday has been a national mourning day for the Filipinos, we know that our apologies can’t bring your love ones back but we hope that this could at least lessen your burden and your pain. WE also feel pain, WE also feel grief and WE also mourn because of that tragic hostage taking incident, and not just because WE lost our country’s dignity but because WE lost YOU, it seems like we lost a peer and a bestfriend. We love you and you’re like a friend to us and we care for you like our own siblings. “The time will come when we will leave this world, and the injustice and the pain and the sin will fall away from us, and only the spark of the spirit will remain--returning to God who created it. You must never lose Faith, you must never lose Heart God will restore your trust and I know you're afraid I'm as scared as you are

But willing to be brave, Brave enough to fight what’s right.” And if you hate us for what had happen, we sincerely apologized, we don’t force you to forgive us, we’re just really sorry, if you think it is not yet time and we are willing to wait for that time where you will forgive us and that time wherein you will accept us again as a friend and not as foe.

 

August 25, 2010
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Any response to my comment will be gladly accepted, whether good or bad.

August 25, 2010
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the news is a very sad one... and the danger a society is facing is almost in all forms.

 

about the 'tourist' --- after looking closely at the photo, i do not see any individual posing in front of the bus but mainly some people (from the general public) took time to check the place of the event out of curiosity, probably to see (or imagine) how worse the shooting was... in their very own eyes, and maybe took a photo of their own to remind them of this horrible incident. Just an opinion.

August 25, 2010
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re:MEISJE

 

Actually, this morning I saw couples of pictures, in which police officers are posing with big smiles on their face in front of the bus.

August 25, 2010
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Inspector Mendoza, the man who killed those tourist, had served the PHilippine National Police for over 25 yrs.- He was accuse of something heinous, was fired,even before they could reach the conclusion of his, a clear violation of his due process in court,He was awarded as a Police officer of the decade,sometime ago, and all of the charges against him was dismisss and was aquitted of everything...Inspite of it all, the Ombudsman in our country, went ahead and decided to terminate him, from the only job he knows,and has been doing for so long, and would hear him out...The ombudsman in our country( Merceditas Geutierez) has been the target of many investigation, and many people has been calling for her dismissal, but the corruption in our country was and has been so bad and prevalent, that they haved ignored those people that truly have a claim, but does not have any grease money to give, to this official, and that is why this man, who after so many years, was treated like a common criminal..Each time we get a new President, we get new in-experince people, that are getting promoted ahead of the ranks, thus create this kind of animosity...The President and his people clearly ignorted this tragedy..The Media, who are also on the take in our country,  should not have the clearance to be broadcasting on-going crisis, and the hostage taker was relying on them,listening to the media, most specially, when the suspect saw his brother getting arrested on live T.V.- could have made up his mind to kill those innocent civilians...I AM ASHAMED OF OUR LEADER, I AM ASHAMED OF THE MEDIA'S MEDDLING IN A CRISIS, AND MOST OF ALL, I AM ASHAMED FOR WHAT HAPPENED...MAY GOD BLESS THOSE FAMILIES THAT LOST THEIR LOVED ONES..

August 25, 2010
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Could anybody tell me: 1.Why your government rejected Mendoza's condition of resume his post as the cost of releasing the hostages,which was so simple to be handled? Compared to the event in 2004, to save a Phllippine bus driver hijacked by Iraq terrorist, your government promised to withdrawl Phllipine troops from Iraq----WHY WAS THERE A SO GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO EVENTS, AT YOUR GOVERNMENT'S ATTITUDE??

2.I just don't want to talk about how rubish the Phllipline police's 'RESCUE' was anymore.BUT COULD YOU GUYS JUST DON'T TAKE YOUR 'INNONCENT' BIG SMILES WHEN YOU TAKING PHOTOS IN FRONT OF BUS AS IF THERE HAVEN'T ANY PEOPLE DIED AND AS IF THIS IS A LOVELY KILLER GAME??

 

I'm really really doubted with these two questions, and really sad with my HongKong compatriots.

Phllipine is no doubt a beautiful country, and the peple very friendly. But I think my friends and I won't go to this place, all my live---Not for discrimination, but for your thoughtless attitude for others' live.

August 25, 2010
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Poor Philippines.. all of a sudden they are hated by other countries..I am so sad for them. I understand the grievances of the other people affected, but they do not need to disrespect all the Filipinos because I do believe even them do not want that incident to happen because they are humans too.. It's just they did not expect the unexpected..

August 25, 2010
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I don't get it why hijack some tourist bus when he can go directly at those responsible for terminating him from his old job. Then the authorities did not handle the situation very well. To me the hijacker and the authorities that handled the incident are all at fault.

 

 

August 25, 2010
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user :Bestfriend from Philippines, as what you said,"because here in our country we treat foreigners as our own family and as our own brothers and sisters." Will you go there to take a photo with a big smile where your brothers and sisters been hijacked or died?

 

Sham !

 

Some Filipinos' attitude is more malicious than Mendoza!!!

August 25, 2010
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I'm appalled that this bus is now a tourist attraction. And what can you possibly learn from taking a photo of a bus that went through a lot of hell and its not even over for those families left behind. I'm not surprise that some Filipinos would do this.

August 25, 2010
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Ppl just have unconscious habit of taking some remembrance like photos from place of incidents though it may be infamous.

 

Those things are happening anywhere in the world. I doubt if that happened in your country too and no one will take photos with bit smile at camera. That maybe looks insensitive and annoying but understand how ppl acts like anyplace in the world

August 25, 2010
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I don't try to rationalize it, but look how ppl did in remnants of WTC in US, people from different races alike did the same. pls understand.

August 25, 2010
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I have already submitted the images of those students who treated the hostage scene as a tourist destination to their respective schools for disciplinary action. 

August 25, 2010
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I felt so sorry for what had happened...

August 25, 2010
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Not whole Filipino Nation are Bad...Just Filipino stupid SWAT dont know how to do there JOB...

August 25, 2010
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To Clart:

Will Phllipines also smile in their relatives' funeral ceremony? If it is just as what they said "because here in our country we treat foreigners as our own family and as our own brothers and sisters." ??

8 people died directly beacause of the polices' rediculous 'RESCUE', nobody feel guilty?? And smile??

 

OK,this is not what the most important.Nobody tell me the answer to the first question----

1.Why the government rejected Mendoza's condition of resuming his post as the cost of releasing the hostages,which was so simple to be handled? Compared to the event in 2004, to save a Phllippine bus driver hijacked by Iraq terrorist, your government promised to withdrawl Phllipine troops from Iraq----WHY WAS THERE A SO GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO EVENTS, AT THE GOVERNMENT'S ATTITUDE??

 

IS THIS DISCRIMINATION towards OTHERS' live ?

I know most Phllipines are inculpable,but pls just respect others' lives and feelings before you talk about respectations towards you, please...

August 25, 2010
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To Bestfriend: When I saw that Philippines president smiled at the crime scene and press conference, and lots of Filipinos and policemen took pictures at the crime scene with very big smiles, I think your country is hopeless.

 

For those Filipinos who do not know the word "shamefulness" and still saying "hahaha": No wonder Philippines is almost a TURD-world country because of people like you.

August 25, 2010
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Bestfriend:

I have been seeing these letters from written by Filipinos these 2 days. But you know what, no matter how you say how friendly your people are, & how sorry you are doesn't really help anything. You gotta ask the questions why your whole nation as a whole was to blame, what happened there is the result of your corruptive gov't and whoever contribute was the people there. And it's not something that a small group of people did, it's a large group of people, large enough that actually foreigners visiting Philippines can tell that these things happened. If the gunman's situation was handled properly or just even one person realizes that MAYBE he has a case, that I think the 8 people wouldn't die, or maybe these things just happened to often that no one really cares? Injustice, corruption, people don't even know what's the truth and what's wrong? Just about a week or so, there was the footage released how the police was torturing a suspect during the interrogation, again it was a known practice but no one is convicted because there's no evidence but no one even thinks that it's wrong?!

 

Okay, let's just say that even someone can do something and handle the gunman's case but he still hijack the bus, no one on the bus thought they are going to die, literally, they believe in the Filipino govt will fix their own shit with the gunman, the gunman even assured them that the wouldn't kill. First of all, he got a letter from the negotiator that his request to have his job back is rejected. Are you really kidding? and arresting his brother all this crap. Of course, all the acts were just retarded, but I see no one in there or behind the screen sincerely cared for the safety of the hostage. When the driver escaped and said all dead, they just TRIED to raid the bus as if really all the people were dead. I'm 99% sure there were innocent people killed by the police. The Police were not there to save the hostage, they were there to kill the gunman at all cost even it means to lose all the respect from the rest of the world especially us the people from Hong Kong so no one can tell whatever secrets the man has to blow out.

 

And look at your president, i can't even put a word to describe him. Blaming the media for what happened. Comparing this to what happened in Russia. Again, they were terrorist, this is just a person who feels he lost hope to his own country and the only way he thinks he can do is to get international attention by hijacking a bus full of foreigners. Really, I really do hear how shameful it must be for all you Filipinos. But everything happens for a reason, and the reason is how your country operates and the people live every day, this is what leads to innocent people died. and no matter what you say Filipinos are not as bad as you think, I will try to believe so, but that is definitely not what your gov't, your president has shown us, really am sorry just cause you take some time writing about it really doesn't help much

August 26, 2010
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it's funny how filipinos accuse chinese of being racist because of their angry reaction to this tragedy.  anger, sadness, grief is all part of the grieving process.  and seeing all the smiling faces of the philipines president blaming rather than taking responsiblity and all the police, students, out of town tourists taking happy smiling photos in front of the bus, of course anyone who isnt' a psychopath would feel angry.  a very natural reaction and it's taken as racist. 

 

the only racists i see from FACTS are filipinos.  all filipinos were freed from the bus without harm.  once the last filipino, the driver, left the bus, the police/swat freely shot at the bus like it was target practice.  these actions of both the hijacker and police point to an inherently racist society against the chinese.

August 26, 2010
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It is a sad day indeed for the Philippines.  I cannot blame other countries for feeling some grudge and ill feelings towards Filipinos.  It's human nature.  I hope they also realize that it is unfair for other Filipinos who have nothing to do with the incident.  Their only fault is the fact that they are Filipinos.  I feel for the loss of our Hong Kong brothers and sisters.  There is no excuse for this.  This will send the Philippines 50 years back.  I will not apologize for being a Filipino.  It is but natural to find someone at fault with the loss of a loved one.  We as Filipinos should just accept the criticism and bad mouth.  We know better - it's but human nature.  People tend to say and do things without much thought when emotional.  We Filipinos should accept this and know better, moving forward.

August 26, 2010
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@echo11019

 

man oh man... I don't even want to start here. Forget all the raped, abused and unpaid Filipino maids and workers in HK.  That has nothing to do with this.  And the rude and racist remark by an HK journalist - for which he wasn't sorry for. 

 

To answer your question:

 

.Why the government rejected Mendoza's condition of resuming his post as the cost of releasing the hostages,which was so simple to be handled? Compared to the event in 2004, to save a Phllippine bus driver hijacked by Iraq terrorist, your government promised to withdrawl Phllipine troops from Iraq----WHY WAS THERE A SO GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO EVENTS, AT THE GOVERNMENT'S ATTITUDE??

 

The difference is - this was during the presidency of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.  This was a political decision since she wasn't getting much support for sending troops out there anyway.  Get it? 

 

For Mendoza's demands? They actually did give him a written document that they will hear his case.  His punk ass just rejected it.  I'm no expert, but I'm sure you would agree that you do not give these people what they want - you only want to appear to do so... yeah?

 

And please buddy, it's not an issue of race here - so don't make it about race.  I'm sure that many Chinese people are very nice people - no matter how rude they may be to the average tourist.  But, you know what, Filipinos are abused, taunted, mistreated by scores of your countrymen on a daily basis all over the region. 

 

That's not to say Filipinos are all innocent or the clowns that the people of the world would like to make em up to be.  That's hardly the case.  I'd say Filipinos are just like everybody else - they are made up of different kinds of people from different parts of the world with different sorts of temperaments. 

 

This was very tragic.  This is turning into an even more tragic thing with this racial row coming from a minority of people. 

 

As for some who can't accept apologies.  That's ok... I won't loose any sleep on it, really.  I suppose the government will try to make it right with you guys. 

 

Think about this though... I've never heard of any of government apologise for an abused, raped, killed, maltreated, unpaid, ridiculed, racially alienated Filipino in any part of the world. 

August 26, 2010
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What do you think of the tourists posing in front of the bus? Is it in poor taste, or is it just innocent curiosity? - It's in poor, disgusting taste absolutely. I'm from the philippines, and while a lot of filipinos are also grieving over the victims, we also cannot believe that some of us would gave the gall to even go out there and take pictures. I can keep on saying sorry over and over again on behalf of the Philippines but I know it won't be enough to ease the pain.

August 26, 2010
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I understand the anger felt in HK but this racist comments i read here make me sick. Specially because the chinese people treat the other people in Asia like rubbish.

August 26, 2010
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To: Echo11019

The answer to your question is simple - the low level Philippine gov't and those stupid police monkeys had never put the rescue of hostages as their priority. Without any concern of the hostages' life, they of course never had any alternative and contingency plan. All in their mind is only one simply plan - "don't give in, wait and see". All their concern is "is it going to hurt our tourist income?" This country is hopeless!! I hope everyone in the world stops going to this damn country. I feel sorry for those citizens living in such a country & being lead by such an incompetent and corrupted gov't.

August 26, 2010
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@ Echo

Naturally, no one will smile at relatives burial. But it may be weird to you, when times of they will take pictures, those mourning relatives of the dead will also take some smiles. Smiling while taking pictures did not intend hurting somebody nor ignoring others, it is for them to look good at camera by which unconsciously hurting others.

 

Until now, I still have a feeling of deep regrets about the incident. That could not happen. There are many "if"s in my mind. I'm sorry bro, I have the same question with you. There many possibilities they could handle the situation. First is the simple demand of hostage taker by which they can give in so easily (actually there was report that the demand was given, only the hostage kidnapper's brother became agitated that makes mendoza started to gun shot inside the bus). Well, I hate those stupid government officials who handle the case. Secondly, they have the clear shot on mendoza and why they didnt shoot him from the start. I suspect, in this case, police knew very well mendoza whom they'r compatriots in police department. They just give him the chance, which leads to kill 8 innocent people.

I really feel sorry about this.

I have Chinese classmate too, with my shame, I also apologize to him, though he really disappointed he accept my apology.

August 26, 2010
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hey!! what U will expected??

August 26, 2010
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"For Mendoza's demands? They actually did give him a written document that they will hear his case.  His punk ass just rejected it.  I'm no expert, but I'm sure you would agree that you do not give these people what they want - you only want to appear to do so... yeah?"

 

Mendoza also requested to resume his post, not just the hearing of his case. The survivors also confirmed that he did ask for money as well, roughly US$20,000. The demands were so simple to be addressed. Any promise under force is not valid and even if he is really "resumed" for his post, he could still be arrested for hostage taking. This obviously reflected the stupidity of those people in charge and their ignorance of the risk of the hostages' life.

August 26, 2010
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Bestfriend:

 

Do not hold out yourself as a representative of any group in the Philippines because your views might not necessaruky be shared by those you purport to represent. I am a Filipino living in the Philippines and I am utterly disgusted with what happened.  I know that an apology will not be enough to assuage the anger and hatred, not only of the Hong Kong people, but also of those of other nations.

 

Being apologetic without acknowledging the moral decay fast engulfing Philippine society is more despicable than being utterly insensitive. It behooves us to tell our neighbors about the wretched condition that we are presently in and acknowledge that the hostage tragedy was more of a common occurrence rather than an exception. Do not give a false impression that most of us are holier than the pope because that it is an absolute falsehood.  Our neighbors should be told abut the countless idiosyncracies of the Filipino way of life which, taken together, form a potent destructive force which may soon rip apart our beloved country. 

 

We already know about the bullying politicians and their propensity to pass on their positions to their children as if they were royalty.  We already know about some underpaid policemen who protect drug peddlers on the side.  But what we have taken for granted are the little things that do more than just annoy.  The list is endless but allow me to mention a few:

 

-full-time village captains and their mini militia

-motorized tricycles and scooters in highways and busy streets

-fraternities (awkward yet violent versions of those you find in U.S. colleges)

-airport greeters

-cheap beer and cigarettes

-lavish sendoff parties for workers departing for abroad

-extended families relying on a single relative working abroad

-karaoke bars

-refusal to queue

-ridiculing a person because of his looks or ethnicity (kirat, pilay, intsik, bumbay, negro, bisaya)

-subservience

-bodyguards of VIPs who act like VIPs

-freebies

-media IDs

-armored bank trucks

-fiestas

 

To those who have not been to the Philippines, the list will seem hilarious. But these things have triggered the unnecessary deaths of countless people.

 

August 26, 2010
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My deepest condolence to the victims and all their family members, we, all over the world are all deeply sadden by this unfortunate incidence.

 

I believe BESTFRIEND's statement are most sincere and representing 90% of Philippinos. I have many Philippino friends and they are one of the most friendly peoples on earth. They are feeling sorry for HongKong peoples.

 

But sorry to say, Philippine government and police are one of the most corrupted and incompetent bunch of idiots. My condolence are also extend to the good  Philippinos who have to put up with this kind of shit-heads running their daily lives 24/7.  May God Bless You.

August 26, 2010
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For those who said they did not see any photos taken by Filipinos posing individually in front of the bus, I looking forward to show you those pictures as evidences. Or you can simply pay more and more attention on the news photos these days posted on relevant websites.

 

The response of the Philippines President was totally flighty shown on his smiling face upon the press conference about the tragedy aftermath though apologized. It shows how the nation treats human lives. His poor and delayed diplomatic tactics, as well as the police officer's incompetent action and the tacky attitude of SOME of the Filipinos seriously and devastatingly humiliate themselves, their nation. Don't the nation know that such incident was directly broadcasted in satellite all over the world and it has already become a big international joke??? Aquino III promised of the restoration of the nation's reputation upon his election campaign is completely "accomplished".

 

The national mourning day is just one of the tactics AFTER the incident. They did nothing DURING the incident.

 

The local media of the nation used the word "drama" to conclude the incident, and posted the photos about Miss Congeniality under the tragic photo. Why are you Filipinos so cruel?????!!!!

 

The nation concentrates on the gunman Mendosa, saying that he is the one to be accused for the tragedy. However, the incident could be peacefully solved at the very beginning only if your negotiator and the police force could tactfully dealt, as the survived hostages witnessed that he was not that mad at the beginning and shown his kind attitude towards the hostages, UNTIL the police force arrested his brother and his wife! How could the force do that in such critical moment and then blame the media about publishing the news??!

 

What kind of the president is, so as the government. What kind of the government is, so as the police and security bodies. The individual posing photos of the Filipinos in front of the sieged bus shows how BAD the country is, how CRUEL their nationals are.

August 26, 2010
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i was so shocked and hopeless that I cried like crazy when i saw the photos of young people and even police posed with BRIGHT SMILE on their faces in front of the bus........their are tons of pictures posted on FACEBOOK.......

how could people do this????

everything the PLP did in the past few days was totally unbearable for us....not a single word could express our disappointment and anger

August 26, 2010
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Our deepest & most sincerest condolences to the chinese people for the loss of their nationals during the bus hostage crisis stand off. One reasons why we are fighting corruptions so badly, as you can see the effect and outcome of our police force due to corruptions. When our police forces are so incompetent and their minds corrupted when all they know is how to make money rather than prioritizing themselves with knowledges & trainings to fight crime with strategies. But not all filipinos are in the field of police force. We are a very loving & friendly people that got caught in the middle of someone else's miseries. As a christian living in a christian nation, we were taught to be humble & asked for forgiveness before asking forgiveness to the almighty father, and for that we seek your outmost sincerity of forgiveness for it is not our intention to end something tragically. As i said we have the most incompetent police forces in the world, and for that we seek your kind understanding for that tragic event. It is not everyday that an event like this can be easily dodged nor prevent. It can happen to other countries also where our own citizens may be a victim also in the future, but we pray not even with other nationals. Again we are so sorry for the incompetence of our national police and for the loss of your nationals, and may there souls be rest in peace. God Bless us all.

August 26, 2010
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to all of my countrymen,FILIPINOS,why don't we humble ourselves down?instead of being proud of our own country,why don't we remove the pride?yes i know that our country has its beautiful places to brag about but is it necessary?yes,there are talented people in our country for us to brag about but again is it necessary?and yes,i know that our country is developing and has its potentials to be known by foreign nations but is it necessary?why don't we keep on asking for forgiveness,not only to the tourists but also to GOD?cause in the first place,these incidents wouldn't happen without a reason..and that reason i think is for us to be humble,not to keep our pride...

 

to all the tourists,especially the HK people.,i'm very sorry for all the things that happened...i sincerely ask for forgiveness and i pray that you'll accept our apologies..,yes i know that what my country-men had done was not good(strategy in rescuing the hostages)and insulting(picture-taking scene),but please forgive us,im asking for forgiveness,not for the sake of our tourism nor for our country's name,but for the friendship that our country once have,with your country..,and i hope that as you read this,you'll feel that we are sincere of what we're doing,of what we're asking.,

 

again,to all the filipino people who-remember that we're not playing hide and seek with GOD...its up to you if you'll keep your pride,the only thing i can suggest is for us to swallow our pride,for it is non-fattening...to those filipino who are really sorry,let's just pray that they'll forgive us.,we are all involved in this thing,no exemption...may GOD bless us all...

August 26, 2010
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for Filipinos:

Lets face it. 

 

We are "FREE".  We are free to take photos while others are mourning.

We are "FREE" to criticize people for their failures.

We are "FREE" to show our media can do whatever, whenever...

Did we know this is major major failure in our part.

 

As OFW, i could not possibly be more proud when people are mocking at this case.  They are not mocking at me they are mocking our country.

 

Can we just pause for a moment, and let crime scene be inaccessible to public?  Can we just show Hongkong our sincere and honest sympathy?  Can somebody just please stop smiling?

 

This event proves to be a CHAOS!  are we there yet?

 

August 26, 2010
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What we saw is Mendoza didn't want to kill anybody firstly.

 

What we saw is the crisis could be solved peacely.

 

What we saw is how profession the special force was.

 

What we saw is how sunny smile the president was in the press conference.

 

And finally we saw a bloody end with 8 killed.

 

Treat foreigners as family and brothers and sisters??? Let your brothers and sisters be killed instead of give the guy back to his job???

August 26, 2010
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@ckguan

 

We will hear your anger! and we will keep our silent. Yes, what you just witness are all correct.  Please give us chance to correct these errors.

 

Kind apology!

August 26, 2010
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I feel sorry for the people in the Philippines, cos you have a incapable and corrupted government. Whats worse, look at your president! That explains why you have a police force like that! I don't think any president in the world would have such a hideous smile on his face when something tragic like this happened in their country. Not to mention with people like ProudFlip and JoeGarce....no wonder your country is like that.

 

Why does our country need to apologise for the unpaid or raped Philippino workers in our country? Do you know how MANY of these cases appear compared to all the kidnapping of Chinese businessman....other country visitors...or even your own country's people that takes place in the Philippines? How can you even compare! Even local peoples will encounter problems with their employers such as being unpaid....or rape! BUT we have a fair and uncorrupted justice system that will assure your country's people, if involved, will be served with justice.

 

I'm 100% sure, if it was YOUR people that had the same situation in our country, our police force will do ANYTHING to save your asses! COS, we're not like your country. WE treat all human beings the same and lives r VALUABLE to all of us, it is PRICELESS!

Not to mention our police force won't be as useless as your's, plus our president would not have the same rotten ATTITUDE as yours!

 

Save your apologies, it's too late. Your country have already showed us, how u value the people in our country in that 10 hrs ordeal. Our value is just TOO different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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@BlackIcon

 

Can you please shut up!  Let them have their anger... it is their right to what happen.  We are not talking about other incident here.

 

You have to understand we made a big MISTAKE.  Lets be accountable to that.  And don't get angry at them... save it.

August 26, 2010
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It's all about President Aquino's misinterpreted smile..so sad..

August 26, 2010
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Its a Philippino thing.

August 26, 2010
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The philippines is a democratic country,actually first in asia,the people had sacrifice a lot for this,and the people will continue no matter what will the future holds.keep the true freedom burning!

August 26, 2010
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for those who said he/she didn't see the "hey look what we have here, say cheese!" picture, here's one:

 

h t t p://ss15.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/62037b5ag8ea3c665144e&690

August 26, 2010
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@BlackIcon

 

What are you talking about?  I agree, these "little incidents" have nothing to do with what went on.  May I point out to you that these aren't little incidents - they are only little incidents because you seem to think so (and they don't get enough media coverage).

 

If you follow your own logic (which I think is sound), you really cannot compare these 2 incidents.  Similarly, echo11019 cannot compare the Iraq incident to this one. 

 

So what we're saying here is... stay on point.  Let's not make this a racist thing.  Apologies have been offered, you are angry and we'll take that. 

August 26, 2010
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dotaleavers:

 

I am just angry with Aquino, SWAT, PNP, not your race, you shouldn't apology to me if their behavior dosen't represent your peoples' will.

August 26, 2010
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Those police officers taking pictures on the bus should be fired. 

August 26, 2010
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Taking souvenir photos, is a NATURAL tourist behaviour no matter what the nationality.

 

The only outrage in this case here in Manila, is the continued INCOMPETENCE of the police even the day after. They should have placed the barricade more than 200 meters away from the bus to keep the tourists out of photo-op reach.

 

Don't blame the tourists! Tourists will be tourists. BLAME THE POLICE! IT'S THEIR JOB TO KEEP THE TOURISTS AWAY. What an incompetent law enforcement agency they have here.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Sorry - sorry - sorry already.. we are all victims here.. we are all victims by evil.. that hijacker was evil in the flesh.. evil has grasp that bus.. God the Father allowed it to happen.. so let us mourn and pray for mercy.. -- Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD. -- Job 1:21

 

August 26, 2010
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Haller mga pinoy!

 

We should assume full responsibility for what happened. The whole thing was unforgiveably mismanaged by people we voted into office.

 

What the heck does democracy and the rapes have to do with the issue of the murder of people who were supposed to enjoy our hospitality? Regardless of whether you were not part of the whole tragedy, you already are because you are a Filipino.

 

What a beautiful country my pwet!- that's entirely irrelevant. Did the rigtheousness of the supposedly religious and free Filipinos prevent the murder of the innocents? noooo because of press freedom, fraternal obligations to a former collegaue in uniform and probably xenophobia.

 

Mind you.. I am as brown-skinned as Lapu Lapu but I respect Joselam's sentiments. I will allow myself to be shamed by his invectives because I am a true patriot by bearing the responsibility for the faults of our leaders. Aside from that, I will enrich my sense of humanity by not only doing what is right but by also teaching my fellow Filipinos do what is right.

August 26, 2010
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All the arguments in this blog is fallacious.It is based on generalization and hypothetical assumption.

yes,there has been a crime,yes,there has been victims,yes there has been aggrieved(everyone in this blog included).Reynaldo Mendoza is 1 Filipino,the PNP is 1 organization,the  22 HK tourists are only a part of the HK population,HK is only a part of China.Filipinos dont become Mendoza.Filipinos dont become PNP.22 HK tourists are not the only Chinese peole in the world.The mistake of one could never be the mistake of the rest.BUT when there is a victim..it is just humane to mourn..Taking pictures leisurely of a very sensitive location of an aftermath of a crime scene is not sane.Please let us respect one another.Please understand the victims,the HK people and the Filipino people are all victims of a crime.

August 26, 2010
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I agree with ckguan, if those people's behaviour r against your views, no need to apologise! Maybe u're DIFFERENT from those animals that did all those disrespectful things!

 

Media coverage: Sorry, we DO have fair media coverage! We believe in freedom n democracy, so we won't cover up those news here. I feel awful when i see things like that happen.....but those happen to the locals as well, in fact, on the other hand, we also get coverage of the domestic helper torturing and perform indecent acts on little kids of their employers! Not to mention one of the case was KILLING their employer. So what does that explain? 

 

Ok put those aside, put race aside, our values are totally different. NOT to the civilians of the Philippines, i mean the GOVERNMENT....the PRESIDENT. We would, really do all possible to save your people if the same happened. Why, can't you do the same? Does lives mean so little to you? The hostages were DESPERATE for your help...did any of the police force / president understand that desperation?

 

What comes around goes around! You will have no sympathy from others. Hope people will be laughing at ur funerals !

 

August 26, 2010
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@BlackIcon

 

Just reread your post.  What are you talking about?  Your justice system is 100% incorruptible?  Check your facts man. 

 

And besides, these aren't Chinese businessmen.  These are FILIPINO-CHINESE.  Like myself - and scores of other filipinos.  And what are you saying that it is not covered in the media?  It is... in the Philippines.  Chinese media just doesn't cover it.  Ya dig? 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Indeed, words are not enough to describe the senseless and brutal killing of those 8 Chinese Nationals who were on that bus on that fateful night and on behalf of the Filipino people, I am mourning for the victims and their families, who are at this point in time, still trying to understand exactly what went wrong and why their loved ones had to endure such a tragic end that could have been avoided right from the very start. First, the police obviously didn't handle the situation in the manner in which a hostage crisis should be handled. The Manila police (PNP) lacked the proper training and professionalism, they were not at all equipped with weapons for the task, their firearms were also inappropriate-- some had pistols, some had assault rifles. Ideally they would have carried a short submachine gun, suitable for use in confined spaces.. they lack cooperation and sense of responsibility--their utmost responsibility is to protect the lives of those people inside the bus..Hence, they assumed everyone was dead and with that little knowledge, they blindly fired bullets directly at the bus, which resulted in the deaths of several Chinese Nationals.

 

I must say that watching the hostage drama unfold right before my very eyes was like watching a mock operation in slow motion. The police could have done better than that. The gunman, Rolando Mendoza's anger was triggered when the police tried to take his brother away and take him into custody--for what? For being his brother? The Manila police could have used him as an instrument to negotiate with his brother and maybe to try to put some sense into Mendoza to release the hostages and surrender to the authorities. Mendoza wanted his brother not to be taken away but the police didn't give in to his wishes. There should be a negotiator in a situation like this but there was none to alleviate the fury of the hostage taker and with that, he made good his promise that he will kill several hostages. The police should be well aware that provoking the anger of a hostage taker is the last thing they should do. The media however broke standard protocol when they aired sensitive footage of the standoff, forgetting that these would reach the hostage-taker who was not in his right frame of mind. Of course, the primary danger of live reporting and detailed descriptions of what is going on outside in a situation like this is that the hostage taker can be listening, watching and logging on.

 

There's a lot of pointing fingers going on right now--even the President of the Philippines is being bombarded with ugly criticisms for not exercising his position well. I am a Filipino but I must admit I can't help but criticize poorly the actions of those given the power and authority and yet failed to use it in a way that could have saved those victims who were unfortunate enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope that what happened in Manila as well as the display of incompetence of the Manila police will not trigger global hate towards the Filipino people and pave the way to racial discrimination in the future. The hostage taking in Manila on Wednesday raised a host of issues and taught us a great deal. I hope we all learned from this terrible ordeal and just hope nothing like this will ever happen again not just in our country but also in every country.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Philippine is a lovely country, your people is great! Happy?

 

Anyway, i won't b racist to any philippinos, i only hate your government and president. Thus I will never visit your country to support your tourism industry.

 

We're happy with the way we r now. I hope you're too! What goes around , comes around, hope your country have great prosperity!

 

 

August 26, 2010
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@ lytc

 

 

The fallacy of that demand from Mendoza is the main culprit.  Money - that's something that I have not heard.  This is something that you cannot give  to a hostage taker - but you may appear to give, yeah?  That's the tactic that we're talking about that simply wasn't employed by the Police. 

August 26, 2010
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I am from Brunei, and we employ a large community of Philippinos and Pilipinas, they a hard working, dedicated, reliable and have contributed in all levels from maids, to office workers, to managerial/administrative and professionals. As for the Goons running the Government in that country, all I can say is GOONs and MONKEYS. Poor Philippines, please pray as a nation for a Savior to deliver that country from all the corrupted Goons, Monkeys and Baboons and jackarses that they call the government and authorities. We in the other SE Asean countries must learn from this and never have a group of baboons running the country. This only Phils can pray and do, we your neighbours will also pray for you and I feel so sad for your country. A nice smile from a Philippina always make a start to a nice day for me here in Brunei!

August 26, 2010
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For gavin215, BrianSS and Joselam

 

Now, your comments are really mature. How old are you guys? 7-8? These things happen every single day, in every part of the world, the difference is, media wasn't contained that's why you guys saw every single thing. What about those people killed in Israel, Iraq or Afghanistan? they don't get that much attention cause media isn't swarming down there, but its the same...people get killed and the sad part is you don't even saw what happened. STOP RACISM or get back to the kindergarten where you belong! But i would agree that the LEADERS did a horrible job. To those who lost their love ones, my deepest condolences.

August 26, 2010
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Im a Filipino-Chinese but I takes sides more on my Filipino race simply because I can't stand RACISM against Filipinos. I also sympathized with the HK people for innocent lives have been wasted during the course of the tragic incident. It's really disappointing that while most Filipinos try their best to make their country proud, some don't just have the heart! However, this is not the time to be swayed by TOO MUCH ANGER AND HATRED, nor be dominated by TOO MUCH EMOTION to the extent that you are already CURSING THE WHOLE NATION FOR THE MISTAKE DONE BY FEW. If you can't forget easily, then at least LEARN HOW TO FORGIVE! Let bygones be bygones.

I rest my case now.

 

August 26, 2010
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@ Black Icon

 

You're totally missing the point.  The Philippines is a 3rd World country, infrastructure is substandard and public service is absurdly  bureaucratic.  Yeah some spots might be nice.  But it is freaking undeveloped. 

 

The people?  There are nice people sure, but boatloads aren't.  It's an entire paradox that is mirrored all over the world. 

 

Indeed, what goes around comes around. 

August 26, 2010
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very well said shovz07

August 26, 2010
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BlackIcon

 

Do you realize your words would hurt others anyway?

August 26, 2010
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@joegarci

yes brad, alot can be done to save those people.  But it didn't happen. 

 

@blackIcon

Yes, we will discourage you to go... because the way in-competencies were displayed, we cannot even guaranteed our own people's safety.  We also suffered, and we suffered everyday... We hope we can ask your blessing to our country.  Thank you for your understanding.

August 26, 2010
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@bumaboy!

 

I'm sorry if your illiterate.  I am not angry at you. I am not barking at all.  I am trying to ask the pinoy to please give respect to those people who grief regardless of race... I hope you understand the point.

 

No more comment

August 26, 2010
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I don't know why there are many Filipino keep asking people especially Hong Kong to forgive and say that Filipino are friendly or something. Hey, we Hong Kong people are not blaming the friendly people in your country! We are blaming the stupid police forces, and these god damn people (wow, you know, including your stupid fat policemen) who were taking photo in front of the place where the dead were killed. How can we not to be anger? To have no racial discrimination, firstly, please do the best you Filipino, stop doing things that people will hate you. And also, just shut up if you think there are many bloodsheds over the world every day and this event was just slight matter. Anyway, this photo is not the best represent of "tourist photo", there are two more lovely photos, girls, and policemen, search them and see their happy faces (while over 7,000,000 sad faces in HK).

August 26, 2010
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as orlando1120 say :Some Filipinos' attitude is more malicious than Mendoza!!! shame

August 26, 2010
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GuoZeOscar

nice one

August 26, 2010
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Please do not treat others in ways you would not like to be treated..

August 26, 2010
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The philippines is a democratic country,actually first in asia,the people had sacrifice a lot for this,and the people will continue no matter what will the future holds.keep the true freedom burning!

August 26, 2010
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I am Filipino and despite of what happened I am still proud for being one. I do not condone the lapses and shortcomings of the Police authorities who handled the crisis and as a Filipino I wholeheartedly and sincerely own to that on behalf of the Filipino people. When you think of it, hostage taking like this that resulted to the death of 8 hostages do not happen only in the Philippines. Russia for one had the same history, the only difference was that the hostages in Russia were locals unlike here in the Philippines whose nationalities are Chinese-HK. In Russia, as a result of the assault more than a hundred hostages were also killed. What I am trying to point out is that, no government is so perfect, that we are all subject to make mistakes just like Russia, and to think  that Russia is a huge and one of the most powerful nations in the world. STOP HATING all the Filipinos and the Philippines in general because that is not humanly,inappropriate and disrespectful. Hating us will not bring back the lives of those who were killed.

August 26, 2010
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No reason for me to visit the Philippines anymore in my life.....Don't just ask the others to forgive the philippinos.

If ur government or the police has ever considered the issue seriously, I am sure the innocent tourists won't get killed.

If the police force won't have proper weapons/trainings, how can they waste more than 1 hour to break the car by using an AX? All the wrong doings of ur police force & ur government which tried to shed any responsibility away really makes me feel disgusting.....

 

If ur stupid police force & students took those stupid photos, is it the way the philippinos show their respect to the death?

I really urge everyone to think twice before they want to visit the philippines in the future....

Their government/ police/ part of the citizens  won't care about u when u are in danger....

 

August 26, 2010
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This to all those getting crazy about people taking pictures and posing in front of the bus and crime scene. I really don't understand why all of you are mad about it. It is simply taking a photo of yourself being able to be on the scene where a historical tragedy happened. If you mad about this then I guess it is much worse when I see people posing at ground zero in new york where thosands actually died there... be more mad when people go to concentration camps and have their pictures taken when we all know millions have been tortured and died there... people even pay just to be able to see the site where it actually occured... I am not personally happy with what happened in Manila, but that will be part of history and the only thing that could come out of it would be learnings which could prevent deaths such as this from recurring... I welcome your comment but then again... stop complaining about picture taking...

 

 

August 26, 2010
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in behalf of filipino people,,we would like to ask apology for what had happened last Monday.we feel very sorry for the unexpected incident.but neither of us are happy of what mendoza have done to our tourists.what he did is very much shame not only to hongkong but to the whole world. but i think we didn't deserved the prize of what he made.though we're the same filipino but we didn't have the same in mind. we are innocent.all we want is peace in our country!!!but some things really happen beyond control,whether we like it or not.

    but it's our sincere apology to everybody especially the victims' family for what our fellow citizen have done. we just hope that through our apology,it can lessen the pain,burden, anger to them.

August 26, 2010
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u took photos in the concentration camps only if the issues happened after a long period of time....

 

Will u take photo right after a day when innocent tourists were killed over that place?

 

The tragedy happened not because of a war or racism, but because of the stupidity of the filippino government & their police...

 

Don't just try to defend.... u have to admit that part of the philippinos who smile in the photos never show their sympathy.........

August 26, 2010
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stupid

August 26, 2010
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As a HK citizen, i do not think HK people are HATING Filipino as mentioned by ladybee0326. In fact most of us are rational, and it is poor for them to have such government (lots of bribe) and police force who fail to protect their citizen.

HK citizen are angry, not because it happened on our people, is that we think the tragedy could be prevented under different treatment handled by Filipino Govt and their Police. We are watching the whole process from the victims who were alive until they were shotted, it is sure unforgettable scene for us. We are just asking for a little respect from your country, by not taking stupid photos or making jokes on the event, which is simple and reasonable.

Philippines as a Catholic country, i hope their people can value people's life. God is watching all of us and fully know what we are doing.

August 26, 2010
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The philippines is a democratic country,actually first in asia,the people had sacrifice a lot for this even foreigners,and the people will continue no matter what will the future holds.keep the true freedom burning!

August 26, 2010
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I am a Filipino. As much as I feel ashamed of what is happening, I also feel hurt by what other nations are saying about the entirety of all the Filipinos. I was raised by my parents to be a good person, to be respectful of other people no matter who they are, Filipino or not. And I believe that it is a trait that most Filipinos have, to be respectful. But we are very much aware of the political situation that has corrupted so many people in our country, but even so, Filipinos are good people. We are loving people, despite of the many criminal foreign visitors and migrants that live in our country which is very rampant then and now, we still embrace their nationals as if they are ours. There are mistakes and embarrassment that that our country has committed, but please do not forget the other million things that we do good which unfortunately has been forgotten now by the smiles of those disrespectful policemen.

August 26, 2010
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ladybee, you're comparing one gunman to russian terriosts? are you joking? This is 1 gunman and the point is there were a few times where the police could have taken the gunman down, if the police force was remotely competent, but as we all know, they are not.

 

apology??? it's not about forgiving phillipines, the role of the police force is to protect the public, and it is apparent the Phillipine police force fails... Those victims should not have died if the police has been a tad more competent. No one is pointing fingers to other philipino, but it's a fact that the Phillipine police is useless and has caused this tragedy getting out of control.

 

If the so-called Phillipine president had some respect to the victims, why didn't he at least restrict the general public taking pictures aftermath? how on earth the local high school students (i am surprised those ppl go to school) and police could still pose in front of the bus and ffs, smiled? a bunch of fuktards.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Siuman21... when do you expect to take pictures when the bus is not there? might as well take a photo after 40 years... 1 day or 40 years after doesn't matter... it's all after the fact...

August 26, 2010
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Totally agree with Siuman21 and Silly kel, well said.

 

My words or sarcasm is meant to HURT the philippino govt and the police......for their impotent acts!

 

Sure will not have any HK tourist there after all this tragedy and disrespectfulness to the dead!

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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@SimplyWABS

 

So does that mean ppl can take photos at funerals? Say CHEESE????? Just cos its a FACT? How uneducated to have this sort of behaviour!!!

 

We pay respect or tributes to the dead! Not treat it as a historical tourist attraction just ONE day after the massacre!!!

 

It DOES make a difference! It DOES matter ! Probably not to the people that were not taught how to respect the dead! BTW, WHY needa take a photo of the BUS?????? You've got nothing better to do?  I'm just in disbelief . I dun see people posing with smily faces after 911 or Bali Bombing!

 

 

 

August 26, 2010

The majority of comments here are so typical of the human race.  You are all generalising way too much.  At the heart of this henious and selfish act of murder is two things.  One - a pathetic loser who took out his anger on innocent people, and Two - a police force who perhaps are not overly experienced in these types of crimes who were simply unprepared. 

 

The blame lays soley with the gunman, who through his actions alone has caused unimaginable pain and suffering to many.

 

This gunman is not a reflection on the Philippines, nor its people.  To cast hatred and despise on a country whose people are just as upset as the rest of the worlds people about this tragedy is ignorant and pathetic.

 

People of the world, we are all one and the same.  We know that there are many troubled, sick and evil people amongst us and our lands whom cause pain and suffering every day.

 

We all need to embrace one another in these testing times and help each other heal.  Casting stones and accusations at one another is so damn typical of the human condition.

 

Photographs of the bus I can understand, but smiling in front of such a horific crime site is tacky to say the least. Those who smile at such a location do need to have a good look in the mirror.  But for the rest of you, keep your negative and ignorant comments to yourself.

 

The Philippine people are the most loving and welcoming people I know.  They live under harsh conditions with corrupt police and poverty throughout thier land.  They are a kind people considering what they have to put up with.  More power to them.

 

My thoughts are with all those who are hurting.  May peace find you all, Godspeed.

August 26, 2010
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bus hijacked by officer <- that can happen anywhere

 

negotiator <- fail

 

gunman in open range in many occasions, sniper <- fail

 

logic rules in keeping the gunman calm thus ensuring hostage safety <- failed

 

blitz the bus, took an hour (when the world standard was less than 1 min) <- failed

 

firing straight at the bus without identifying hostage position - fail (youtube clips shows clearly at least one hostage was killed by police sniper shot)

 

president couldn't be reached during the seige - fail

 

president kept avoid any blame during press conference, not to mention that disrespectful grin on his face - fail

 

filippino press opening the victim's coffins and taking pics - fail

 

general Filipino citizens and COPS, posing and smiling in front of the crime scene and posting them around internet  - fail

 

now pls tell me, all over fellow earthlings, how are we supposed to take these events without anger? the country's incompetency is one thing, but the disrepectful attitude towards HK, and human life in general, is something very hard to 'forgive and forget'.

August 26, 2010
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Hi everybody, at the end of the days and days ahead. its everybody that gets hurt, its everybody that feels the sadness, anger,remorse and what have you...time will heal everything... we are all humans, we make mistakes, feel sorry and ask forgiveness, its human nature,, yes , its so sad to lost somebody we love, specially in a foreign land, and no amount of comfort will ease the pain that is now raging inside ..There are people who listens, people are sensitive to issues.. lets make this a lesson that nothing like this will ever happen again...of course there will be people responsible for this tragedy, and they already feel so sad and so sorry.. as a citizen of the world, regardless of what race,lets all pray together for the eternal repose of those victims.. and to our friend Mr. Joselam and Gavin 215, lets refrain from using such bad and degoratory words, we all understand.. we are all children of ONE GOD, whatever religion ... I feel pain too, I am one with you.. I am also one of you...

August 26, 2010
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As a young filipino. I apologize all the chinese who feels anger to us filipino. We are not the suspects, Philippines is just like other countries that has something happenings... I hope you will give a chance for us filipino waiting for peace among the two kinds of people, we don't need to argue because chinese and filipino people have a common ancestors. Aside from that, we are only observing my country and the world. I love both chinese people and filipino.

August 26, 2010
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The government and police system in this country is so awful!I just wonder how can those people surrive in that country?

August 26, 2010
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@Blackicon

You said that you would do everything to save our people,then I guess you should start now because there are countless crimes done in our country by this foreign blood, drug and child trafficking, kidnap for ransom, illegal businesses, smuggling,etc., these are all organized crimes. Foreign blood taking advantage of poverty stricken people to feed themselves in our own land as they sit on their golden chair. It is a reality that is happening in third world countries which is really sad. There is so much to be done to straighten our government and erase poverty, that's a fact that even Filipinos are well aware of, but we do not lose hope and continuously pray that someday it will change. We are all grieving and are sincerely sorry that this had to happen and right now what we really need is a simple prayer of hope not just for the victims but for everyone who lacks knowledge and heart of the real situation.That's what everyone right here should do. Thank you very much. Signing out...

August 26, 2010
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the filipinos are the most hospitable people in the world. if there is no filipinos in hongkong, no progressive hongkong can you see now.

August 26, 2010
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The philippines is a democratic country,actually first in asia,the people had sacrifice a lot for this even foreigners,and the people will continue no matter what will the future holds.keep the true freedom burning!

August 26, 2010
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@Tina13

 

What are you talking about? Orgainized crimes? I said, IF the same ordeal took place in HK with people of your country, our police force, government will do anything and prioritize your lives, because they're all valuable.

 

It is NOT up to our civilians nor government to stop those ORGANIZED CRIMES in your country!!! For, whoever it's responsible for it! Perhaps corrupted cops in your country play a BIG part in it? We don't know, you know what's true! BUT our government don't have the power to stop those underground organized crimes!

 

Yes, i feel the same that i hope the conditions of 3rd world countries will change. Though it is hardly visible with the attitude of your police force and president in this incident.

 

THis is a lesson that taught all HK people to not take holidays....nor support the tourism industry of THESE kinds of 3rd world countries.

 

Please bear in mind, they're all normal healthy families, their identities are revealed in media coverage, they're NOT DRUG SYNDICATES!!!!!! Don't blame others, society crimes.. look what kind of people you have in the police force.....Where are the money for your police force equipment? We are blaming the government, NOT those that r suffering from poverty and society injustice.

 

Yes our country is not 100% crime free, but your country's is scary!

 

August 26, 2010
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SimplyWABS 

i dont want to argue with u.

but if u think ppl should take a photo full of smiles right after the happening of the incident, u can just feel free to do it to show ur sympathy & we won't stop u......

If it is ok, it won't trigger so much debate.........

Again, after this incident, i will never visit the philippines, not becox of the ppl over there, but becox of the poor police & irresponsible government & some of the inhumane & indifferent philippinos.

Besides, I urge everyone to think twice before visiting that country for the sake of their safety.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Tactically so many options were open for the "professionals" lined up outside the bus, seriously the bus is open all around with windows, how hard can it be taking a lone gun man out, it's not like he strapped bomb to himself with a heartbeat counter...

August 26, 2010
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It's not only the foolish cop, but also the weak president, the selfish mayor......

 

In these few days, we Hong Kong Chinese experience what's the difference on the values of life amongst the Filipino!

 

In fact, someone must debrief on why this "democrative" country performs like a mess!

August 26, 2010
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Matter of shame for Police & Media , as we all belive its bcoz of their negligence and unprofessionalism such a tragedy happend rather of Mendoza's act.

August 26, 2010
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It really was a shameful scene. The government could have done something else if the president was present. If the president paid attention on the hijacking, he would have approved the demands of the hijacker. The demands were very simple. It was a negligence on the the president's part, which led to inefficient and neglegent handling by the PNP on the situation.

August 26, 2010
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not all filipinos are as what you negatively think...

 

to blackicon....before you comment my question is did you already travel to my country?

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