Thursday, August 26, 2010
Your stories: Why I converted to Islam

Two weeks ago, iReporter Maebelle posted a video explaining the various customs of Ramadan in response to our Muslim in 2010 assignment. The video caught garnered several comments, simply put, because she is white.

 

Maebelle, who is from St. Louis, Missouri, said the most common question was why she converted to Islam. She decided to post another video explaining her decision. As a high school student she was interested in several religions and after her friend Eddie converted to Islam, she eventually decided to convert as well.

 

"He was always a hyper kid; he was never really grounded," she explained. "I started to see a more 'yin-yang' type of Eddie. ... He seemed just really peaceful, happy and grounded."

 

kszremski, who also shared a Muslim in 2010 iReport, posted a similar iReport responding to commenters. "Some people have been questioning -- after my posts on CNN iReport -- my nation of origin," she explained on video. "To me, it doesn't really make a difference," she responded. "The United States is a nation of immigrants, our forefathers were immigrants, and we are a large melting pot of a society – I think that’s what makes this country so special."

 

For the record, kszremski is American. She converted to Islam in 2001 and is now the media director for American Muslims for Palestine. She’s obviously proud to be Muslim, even when it means she’s the only person wearing a headscarf at local high school football games.

 

"We’re part of the great diverse fabric that makes up this country," kszremski said.

 

We’re glad Maebelle and kszremski are part of the diverse CNN iReport community and continuing the conversation about Islam. We look forward to seeing more from you both in the future!

606 Comments
August 26, 2010
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I still cannot believe people don't know that Muslims are Americans, can be Americans, etc.  Their country of origin is here, if they were born here.  I fail to understand why people don't understand it is a religion not a ethnicity or race.  It would be like telling someone to go back to their country of origin if you heard the word "Catholic"....that could be MANY countries including America!

August 26, 2010
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I cannot belive people would follow a religion invented by a guy that started by stealin from caravans, raping and killing. The ignorance in the west is imense. Western countries will unfortunatley learn the hard way as the christians did 1000 years ago as Islam conquered 2/3 of the christian world converting by the sword and raping and enslaving people. The result was the christian raising armies in the crusaids after they have had enough of Islams murder. Thsis is likely to repeat here again.

August 26, 2010
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Islam = Tyranny. Female muslims are laughable. Liberal Left wing Americans turned muslims are even more laughable. Go to afghanistan and be a good muslim woman then get back to me after a few weeks.

August 26, 2010
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I wonder if these folks have read the Quran and Hadiths in their entirety yet. And if so, I wonder how they will interpret those surahs and hadiths... I myself have read them out of sheer enthusiastic curiosity and have come to a grim conclusion about the doctrine.

August 26, 2010
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Why belong to any religion at all?  Being that there are hundreds, and all contradictory, shouldn't that be some kind of clue that they're man made?  Greek gods looked Greeks that created them, Chinese gods looked and dressed Chinese, and Abrahamic gods looked like their creators too.  Even within religions, there are countless denominations, sects, and disputed prophets.  Perhaps nobody can get it right because it's being made up as we go along.  Islam has it's origins and branches.  Christianity borrows a lot from Pagans.  Go far enough back, and religion was simply an answer (excuse) for weather patterns.

August 26, 2010
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If they like the Islamic religion so much, might I suggest they move to one of the Third World Islamic hellholes and see just what Islam in the real world, not what they read in some comparative religion class, is like.  Get real ladies!!

August 26, 2010
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I just hope US government continue to stay aggressive against terrorists and I hope they realize that governments of countries like Saudi Arabia were never their allies. They are part of the problem. Unless Saudi Arabia changes to a democracy and stops preaching hatred to poor Muslims in various parts of the world it is not going to end.

 

I don't think Islam is the problem. Its the so called moderate Muslims ignoring the extremists and saying they are freedom fighters is the real problem. And our government taking their side for so many years before 9/11.

August 26, 2010
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who cares

August 26, 2010
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Yes CNN, we know you support Islam.  We get it.  Article after article that you have sponsored on your website shwoing the great and wonderful things that Islam has to offer, proves it.  I dont care about this woman's white guilt okay.   I dont have any to speak of and I am glad who God made me and who my parents raised me to be.  I spent 16 months in Iraq and trained the Iraqi army and I know first hand the type of spirit and mindset that Islam demands of true believers and its violent and tyranical.  No thanks.  Preach all you want CNN, but people like me that know better aint buying it.  Islam = Evil.

August 26, 2010
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Why is CNN bent on doing story after story, day after day, about islam? Do they get a nickle for every convert? Would CNN do a story about someone converting to Judaism or Buddhism? Any article on someone embracing Matreya or Gutatama? CNN has become the American outpost of Al -Jezeera. Enough already.

August 26, 2010
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Okay, so you adopted a system of beliefs about the universe because it makes you feel good?  What does feeling good have to do with understanding the way the universe works?  If you are just interested in self-help, fine, read a self-help book.  But why profess all the mystical nonsense that comes with religion?

August 26, 2010
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Organized religions are almost always a bad idea.

August 26, 2010
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Ignorance breeds religion and religion breeds ignorance - Please focus on being respectful and kind to others, and not take off with one of thousands of interpretations of what is "sacred" - this is a real world make up of real living beings, humans being among the newest kids on the block - my imaginary super-being friend is no better than your imaginary super-being friend, we only have each other, let's learn to make the best of it!  Thank you!

August 26, 2010
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CNN posts stories about Islam, because Americans are fascinated by Islam, albeit in a mostly negative way.  Every time they post an article about Islam, the commentary is through the roof.  If you are a news outlet and you want to attract readers, you give the people what they want.  Duh.

August 26, 2010
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Slavery of women is always a good draw...isn't it?...I feel bad for this lady, but clearly, promoting ancient philosphies that are harmful to the human experience is hard to believe. Automagic...I think Jesus is the only one that said that he died for the world's sins, and that he was God...Budha said that he believed in one God, and that his followers should not worship him when he died...they did not listen...Hindu worship animals??? Iknaton, Pharoah of Egypt, said there was only one God, but when he died they went back to old ways. So clearly the religions of the world are not all the same, and it is your lifelong commission to choose the right one...Choose wisely, and seek and you shall find...that is what I believe will get you your answers, but many choose not to seek...

August 26, 2010
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yes, islam is peaceful and more and more people are realizing this. more power to you kszremski! he people who have "grim" conclusions about the religions are reading the verses waaaay out of context. i understand your concern not simply put, ask someone who knows.

August 26, 2010
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I'll pass on this whole religion fiction.  I can think for myself and reach the logical conclusion that god did not create man.  Man created god.

August 26, 2010
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The face of Islam being reported here: A progressive, honest, spiritually inclined bunch of converts is not the true face of Islam.

It is far removed from what Islam really is for billions of Muslims and is not the social objective of Islamists. This is nothing more than PR and these people are powerless to affect real change and therefore are nothing more than trophies. To the Islam bosses, it simply arithmetic. Get some westerners to convert and you can start to control the public debate!

August 26, 2010
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"Choose wisely, and seek and you shall find...that is what I believe will get you your answers, but many choose not to seek..." of the world's 9,000+ religions (and growing daily), do choose wisely - and remember, the only one that is usually correct is your own, everybody else is wrong when it comes to their beliefs!

August 26, 2010
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Wth is wrong with you guys? SHe muslim then shes muslim! Nobody asked for your opinion on the religion! Sthu plz and everyone would appreciate it a little better.

August 26, 2010
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@inSouthbay

 

Although I am a Christian and believe in God, I agree 100% with what you said.  Humans as a whole are more concerned with putting ourselves into clicks and groups based on our differences instead of embracing each other on this small speck in the vast cosmos.  People have no grasp of how small we really are, how fragile our world is. 

August 26, 2010
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Please don't mind if I call you IGNORANT, because most of you are.

Islam was not spread by force and it says in the Koran that there is no compulsion in religion. Crusaders were the ones who killed and raped the innocent people including kids and women just to take revenge. If you read about Salahdin (who even non-muslims praise) let go of the POWs, treated them like a real human being, spread rose water on the street after the war and therefore his name is written in the history with golden words. Same thing with Tariq Bin Ziyad (Gibralter is name after him meaning the rock of Tariq), never treated a human unjustly because Islam does not allow that.

Many Muslims have interpretted the religion their own way and acting as individuals not portraying the true face. Same thing with any other religion...you name it.

By he way, you have to cover your whole body including hair and bossoms in Christianity. That's why Nuns are still the same way. Why don't you go ask the nuns to go to afghanistan? You are not supposed to drink, eat pigs meat, sleep with neighbors' wife, back bite, hurt innocents etc etc as written in Bible but most Christians have not read the old testament and new one and just blindly follow the media like God's word and believe it.

Keep hating and it will not hurt anyone but yourself.

Read the history and not just CNN for your thesis material. I rest my case.

And I appreciate what she is doing and God will help her through, God Willing, Amen.

August 26, 2010
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who the heck cares why they became muslims...no other religious group in America has committed as much harm as muslims have to our country and to our fellow citizens. That's something to think about and to be ashamed of. This country is as diverse as a country can possibly be...but there's one thing that unites us all...and that is that we're all Americans...and none of us would ever commit treason, harm other Americans, or conspire to attack our country...yet muslims have done all that and continue to do more of the same. There's nothing they can say in their defense. None of us heard their voices repudiating 9/11, Ft Hood, Northwest flight 253, Times Square bomber, Riverdale synagogue bomber,...nothing...not a peep out of them. That's disgusting and despicable...

August 26, 2010
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LOVE those wife beatings and mercy ki11ings huh?

August 26, 2010
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you should read the Qyran first before you declare yourself a Muslim.with all due respect converting for celbruty sake is worse than keeping a faith you dont beleive in. how do you feel about the "adult men breast feeding by you?" how do you feel about woman being less equal than a man? how do you fell about killing for Jihad?how do yo feeel about tolerating other non muslims?

how do yo plan to make an impact to change humanity for the better? good luck. may allah reward you here on earth bc for sure there is no reward in heaven. how do you feel about a 60 years old man marrying a 12 years old? its a very long list.go educate yourself before you become a proud Muslim.welcome to Islam  lady.

August 26, 2010
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We are witnessing the Islamization of America. God help us.

August 26, 2010
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Why did they convert to Islam?  Simple - they thought that an illiterate bandit, thug, mass-murderer, and rapist of women and children would be a great guy to emulate!

 

I have nothing but contempt for these idiots, and I disown them as fellow Americans.  They have made a choice to become enemies of the human race.

August 26, 2010
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Flipper...you will flip in those 3...2...1...seconds because she is the chosen one and not like a women that you have experience with...you know what I mean?

 

And mercy killing is not part of Islam and yo ucan blame the rituals, not Islam. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is the Islam's way and not to kill innocent women who did not commit any crime.

August 26, 2010
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As the American parent of a Gay child, and as an Atheist let me be quite clear and tell Maebelle that I consider both her and her cult the enemy of my family, an enemy of women and an enemy of freedom.  You support a religion that is without a doubt genocidal to Gay human beings.  How does that word sound Maebelle?  Genocide.  Puts you right up there with the Nazis in my book.  I think the word "evil" is being too kind to you.

August 26, 2010
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islam is a one man invention and is totally false.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99,

Islam was absolutely spread by the sword starting in the arabian peninsula and you're factually incorrect in denying that it was. I know you're not on something because that is not allowed in Islam and so I am totally perplexed about why you are denying history.

August 26, 2010
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Kszremski, the article says you are media director for American Muslims for Palestine.  Do you believe the Jewish people also have the right to live in the Middle East, to live in peace, and to not be second class citizens?  If not, why not?  Does converting to Islam generally mean you have to side with other Muslims, even if they are not necessarily in the right?

August 26, 2010
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This whole conversion to Islam in the US is a fad just like Kabala, People are angry with the institution and this is their way of getting back at society. Want to really experience your new found faith? Move to the Middle East

August 26, 2010
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Well it is called freedom.  You can become anyone and worship ANYONE and be anyone.  Today you can be a Hindu, or Christian or Muslime... but try to change to any other... after being a Hindu or Christian you can become any other religious follower.. but try that after becoming a Muslime.... they will kill you .. if they cannot humiliate or chase away from the community because thru your example other may follow you to any soome other religion which the can not tolarete.. as a western you may not notice it but go to Asia or middle east... they have to escape with their life if THEY WANT TO LIVE TO WORSHIP THE GOD OF THEIR CHOICE... (To me there is only One God... and we are all fighting over it...how ignorant and short-sighted are we?)  Earth is not all... nor the universe... nor the milky way.. nor the thousands or milky way out there and God is bigger and yet 1000 time smaller than nucler... that is God).  So live and let live and let us enjoy shoter days that we all have....

August 26, 2010
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islam, peaceful? mormex, "Put them to the sword; that is the punishment for such unbelievers.  Fight against them until there is no more disorder and Allah’s supremacy is established." Dr. Mahdi this is an OPINION forum, unless we have succumbed completely, as in muslim countries, were criticizing islam  is a capitol offense.  Were this victim  not a muslim, CNN would not touch the story. This is PR, and Good Atheist (an oxymoron addressing a moron) people want more than biased media apologetics.

August 26, 2010
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Islam is a religion of dehumanisation and death. Even the name "I Slam" has violent connotations, of submission to cold hard dogma. If you want to "slam" yourself, you want to slam everybody else too. And fanatic idolatry towards a book rather than the universal and invisible God of all men.

August 26, 2010
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There are indeed Muslims who want to suppress women and forcibly convert or oppress non-Muslims.  There are also Christians and Jews who want to suppress women and some who may want to forcibly convert non-believers.

 

However, I have visited two majority Muslim countries - Turkey and Morocco, and found that many women wore western dress and were very free.  Many other women (or perhaps the same women at different times) wore more traditional garb but still seemed quite free, and not a single person I met treated me with hostility because I am a non-Muslim.  In fact, most of the people I met in both countries were very friendly and extremely hospitable.  I felt much safer walking down Turkish streets in several different cities and towns than I do in much of my native Baltimore in the U.S.

 

I'm not a religious person myself.  I don't want to join any religion.  However, I strongly believe that the vast majority of religious people of ALL of the common faiths are pretty good people whom anyone would recognize as such if they got to know them.

 

Please don't condemn people because they are Muslims, or Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or whatever.

August 26, 2010
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Im with Spoton12, how can you deny all of that Tracy?

August 26, 2010
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The question is not why Islam. Its the hottest topic around the world for the past 15 years, I would say. Back in the 60's no one knew Islam existed as people know now days.

 

I see it as this "fashion" statement - I hear all these stories about bad boy rappers, and drug dealers and girls who party 24/7 convert to Islam and now they say thats the best thing ever happened to them and thats all because of Islam. And I respect that people find some kind of peace with a help of a religion. But its not more mystical or deeper than Buddhism, Atheism or even Yoga. Its all about understanding yourself and how can you be a better person, and how can you help others, inspire others to get ahead in life.

 

But as time is passing by people would find new "fascinating" things to believe in. But that doest change the fact we are all need to step back from our own comfort zone and say - what can I do to make things better around me and help others to do the same.

August 26, 2010
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Let's hope she works to stop that monument to terrorism being planned next to Ground Zero. And, we wish her well in her new beliefs. Just hope she doesn't get the itch to cheat......

August 26, 2010
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The problem is the fanaticism that seems to highly proliferate the present Islamic world view.  JusticetoAll--not a good comparison given the senseless murdering of just about anyone that happens to be in the way is presently inflicted by the extremes of Islam.  What happened hundreds of years ago happened hundreds of years ago.  While there are some extreme evangelical aspects to modern day Christianity, Christians don't intentionally blow up innocents, let alone other Christians.  The tolerant and liberal minded in America and the rest of the world need to understand there is no tolerance in the extremes of Islam.  If that extreme gains dominance, then the freedoms we hold so dear, and liberal freedoms I might add, will become crimes of the state.  For the record, I am a very liberal minded person, but I decided a long time ago to try and see things beyond the scope of my nose.

August 26, 2010
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Bunch of morons are writing stupid comments about a courageous woman who embraced Islam ( the best religion on the face of the earth that is not man made).

Every now and then you guys made changes into the Bible to suit your convenience. You have sex in your church, abuse your own kids, many priests do the same, invading other countries for the name of democracy, scare the world about false WMDs that led to a wrong war that killed hundreds of thousands of people.

You did the same with Japanese, American Indians, Germans, Mexicans and many others who are the victims of your hate in this country where the freedom of religion is supposed to be practiced but it is not.

You are nice with smile on your face but in reality you are full of poison and it is showing right here.

One dumb guy said that Jesus said that he is the son of God and he dies for our sins. Show one line in Bible where it says. He never said that and it states in the Quran that he can not say something what he is not supposed to say.

A human's kid is human, an animal's baby is animal and how come a human be a kid of somethin that no one has ever seen. Laughable. Truly laughable.

August 26, 2010
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So the reason you became a "Moslem" is because your buddy Edie did? Wow, that's really checking to see if something is "TRUE" or not! Perhaps it would be a good idea to understand what it is that Islam requires and to read the Koran and Hadiths beforehand - at this point, all you really are is a person who doesn't know what she believes or why you believe it, but since you want to "feel good" about yourself and a group of people whose religion is evil. As others have stated, go and try to live your "faith" where it started and see if you survive or still believe it will make you "feel" good.

August 26, 2010
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I've read the Koran thoroughly and I've read the bible thoroughly.. My conclusion:  Children are indoctrinated to believe in dangerous religions.  Imagine a bunch of people gathering around and throwing stones to kill a girl in front of her parents! 

 

Give it up... It is MUCH MORE PEACEFUL to enjoy nature and watch the miracles of a child learning how to play the piano or plant a sunflower seed.  RELIGION SUCKS BECAUSE IT wrecks the minds of youth, creates wars and leaves people wondering why their prayers are not answered.  Prayers are not answered because mythical things do not exist.

 

Ministers and Priests who claim to believe these things as true are LIARS and are wrecking our planet.. Why do adults, pay lying men to wreck the minds of their children?  It IS INSANE. The emperor HAS NO CLOTHES.  Children should NOT BE TAUGHT a human sacrifice was made to benefit them.  The bible is a GRIM fairy tale.

August 26, 2010
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"We are witnessing the Islamization of America. God help us. "

 

Oh

puh-leaze! Proud Pagan here. I wont be converting to Islam, or any of the other Abrahamic faiths anytime soon. With that being said If this girl finds spiritual fufillment in her chosen faith, let her be! No one said YOU had to convert to Islam.  freedom of religion is a great thing. It's too bad many Americans freak out when they learn of someone of a different faith. I leave you with the words of the band Spiral Rhythm,

"Well you take your path

And I’ll take mine

A little tolerance

And we’ll both be fine

Keep an open mind

It’ll set you free

And Goddess bless,

so mote it be"

 

~Kelly

August 26, 2010
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"You should not take friends from their ranks unless they

immigrate in the way of Allah; and if they do not, seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and do not take any of them as protectors or helpers."

August 26, 2010
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I hate to break it you but you are not a muslim.  You are practicing a faith deeply rooted in islam... but it isn't islam.  You do not get to pick and choose which rules you are going to follow and still call yourself a member of the club. 

 

Idiots like Osama bin laden are not fanatics or extremists they are simply Observant muslims.  They observe the religion in its entirety.  Whatever rules the koran lays out they follow to a T.   The longer you lay claim to the same faith, by the same name, the longer people are going to hate and fear you.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Good Atheist,

Is the mystical nonsense you're talking about dark matter, dark energy, inflation, punctuated equilibrium and ort clouds?

August 26, 2010
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Have a child and see how Islam treats that child, females in particular. By 13, she'll have her clit cut and sold to some relative as a 'wife'.  God is great.

August 26, 2010
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LOL @ Tracy99!!!

August 26, 2010
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Wyatt22: A little learning is a dangerous thing. Unfortunately, your comment about each religion is laughable. Buddha never said there is God. Buddha say take my teaching and experience if it is true and if you think it does good to your and to humanity, then you have the choice to continue to follow Buddhism. As often, the good and the evil exist in each one of us. Only your free will to choose the good and knowledge of knowing good deeds beget good deeds. Or what comes around goes around mentality will you know the true knowledge of what humanity is all about and the true nature of things.

August 26, 2010
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Pathetic.  Why not proclaim that you feel the need to be tied up and muzzled?

August 26, 2010
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I have heard nothing you say that seems intelligent. The fact you use growing numbers to legitimate your cause is inane.

 

All religions are intolerant and willing to kill for their causes. I do not care what you believe but, I will not be told I have to follow a cult who's treatment of women and anyone who disagrees with your cause.

 

 

My non-belief does not affect you but, I get told to conform or the infidel will be murdered.  Live your life stop intruding and insisting everyone has to bow to your ideology.

August 26, 2010
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Who cares about the flake of the moment. Jim Jones found followers to drink cool aid too, so what.

August 26, 2010
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A cult that follows satanic verses written by satan

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99-you speak emotionally and with speculation.  You are the very exact of those you lambaste.

August 26, 2010
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pagan? Do not marry pagan women until they become believers; a believing slave woman is better than a free pagan woman even though she may be more attractive to you. Likewise, do not marry pagan men until they become believers: a believing slave is better than a free pagan even though he may be more pleasing to you. These

pagans invite you to the hellfire while Allah invites you towards paradise and forgiveness by His grace. He makes His revelations clear to mankind so that they

may take heed.

August 26, 2010
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Muhammad took advantage of pagan arabs to concoct islam. He wanted to create an alternative religion to christianity. At the end of the day he confused billions of innocent people who are heading for hell. My biggest question is why didnt muhammad come up with a totally different religion? Why did he copy from the Holy Bible if he felt this holy book was not correct? There is nothing sacred about Islam and that is why it encourages killing. Why do you expect from a religion concocted by an ordinary human being?

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99 is obviously a hydrocephalus victim.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy 99... go out and view nature.. that is the stuff we are made of.

 

ALL religions which teach young minds to believe in myth as though it were fact DO AFFECT each and every one of us in very negative ways.  I am SICK of people taken in by ceremony and song and statues and churches when it is all false lies. 

 

Instead teach your children to dance, play a musical instrument, play sports, and go on family hikes and picnics... LET's put the books of religion where they belong... in the FICTION section of libraries.

August 26, 2010
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may god show all these illiterate uneducated people a fair punishment im so proud of you 2 ladies clearly you have been of the chosen ones may god protect and guide you all to the straight path

August 26, 2010
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To those of you complaining that we should not talk about her decision and that we should leave her alone for her choices, all I have to say is that she made this our business by posting a piece about it and allowing it to headline CNN. Thus, we're free to express our opinions, whether positive or negative, just as she is free to practice whatever religion she chooses. Just because you don't agree with an opinion doesn't make it wrong nor does it take away someone's right to express their views.

August 26, 2010
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Islam is the biggest scourge of mankind. Every Muslim is a reasonable person until the topic is Islam - then they reveal their extreme terroristic nature.

August 26, 2010
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DavidS17, No, its a massive black hole int he center of a galaxy cluster whos singularity jet streams x and gamma rays into our minds, casuing mass halucinations.

 

By the way, once man discovers the secret to black holes, where Einsteins theory of relativity breaks down into utter nonsense, then we might close to even thinking about the complexities of what gave birth to the beginning. 

August 26, 2010
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Please don't let becoming a Muslim be the next cool fad..  Were just trying to recover from becoming a born again Christian

August 26, 2010
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@Wasabiwahabi  "Do not marry pagan women until they become believers; "

 

Well it's a good thing I am not married to a Muslim Man then :-)

August 26, 2010
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The quote is totally non-Islamic since this a cultural thing in Africa and not part of Islam. Like I said earlier...educate yourself before passing the stupid comments.

Wasabiwahabi "You should not take friends from their ranks unless they

immigrate in the way of Allah; and if they do not, seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and do not take any of them as protectors or helpers."

August 26, 2010
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People convert to Islam because they are in search of an identity, and are usually frustrated with being continuously ostracized from other typical social groups. This war is about converting people over to your particular brand of religion, until one or the other is finally erased from Earth.

August 26, 2010
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They ascribe daughters to Allah - Glory be to Him! -

But for themselves, they would like to have what they desire, sons. Whenever the news of a female child is announced to any one of them, his face darkens and he

chokes with inward gloom.

August 26, 2010
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Why did she join Islam? After reading the Koran, why would anybody join Islam. But then, people join all kinds of crazy groups.  The Ku Klux Klan, Branch Davidians, Jonestown, the list is too appaling to go on.  Some even joined a crazy cult thinking they could ride Haley's comet into eternity.  So I guess the hope of 40 virgins in Mecca is a pretty strong motivation.  But what do women get?   40 Islamic male studs? 

August 26, 2010
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I agree Nicholsoncj.  Tracy99 must be one of the most naive simpletons I have ever seen post.  Obviously Tracy99 doesn't have any Gay friends...because they would spit on that piece of trash and walk away.

August 26, 2010
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Either of the monotheistic religions of Islam and Christianity foster fanaticism. Personal rights and freedoms exist in inverse proportion to religion's power in any society.

 

An America ruled by Biblical Law would be no more tolerable than an America ruled by Sharia. The world would be better off without either one.

August 26, 2010
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She's an idiot.

However, one day it will be mandatory in this land to be Muslim.

August 26, 2010
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Muslims are in constant denial of what the religion is. Every religious book, history and it current practice in islamic countries  make it so despicable to everyone with an open eye. But yet devout muslims they see the opposite of what it really is. To convert you truly have to be misinformed about what islam is all about or you are drawn to its evil ideology.

August 26, 2010
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Bunch of morons are writing stupid comments about a courageous woman who embraced Islam ( the best religion on the face of the earth that is not man made).

Every now and then you guys made changes into the Bible to suit your convenience. You have sex in your church, abuse your own kids, many priests do the same, invading other countries for the name of democracy, scare the world about false WMDs that led to a wrong war that killed hundreds of thousands of people.

You did the same with Japanese, American Indians, Germans, Mexicans and many others who are the victims of your hate in this country where the freedom of religion is supposed to be practiced but it is not.

You are nice with smile on your face but in reality you are full of poison and it is showing right here.

One dumb guy said that Jesus said that he is the son of God and he dies for our sins. Show one line in Bible where it says. He never said that and it states in the Quran that he can not say something what he is not supposed to say.

A human's kid is human, an animal's baby is animal and how come a human be a kid of somethin that no one has ever seen. Laughable. Truly laughable.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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If Muslims favor sons, then it sounds like that very well could be the source of your tension.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99, Let the Koran speak for itself, as I have. The book cannot be truly translated with complete accuracy, and I am certain there are many more here who will rightly correct me, but do not say what is contained in the Koran is not from the koran.

August 26, 2010
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This is sad.  Religion has no answers.  What a waste of a mind.

August 26, 2010
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They're all cults.  The christian cult is no better than the muslim cult.  They're all superstitious, based on no evidence, contradict reason and logic, and force people to believe or burn in some imaginary torture dimension for eternity.

 

At least the greeks were more ORIGINAL.  I mean the whole jesus thing was borrowed from myths existing hundreds of years before even the old testament (story of mithras, poseidon's flood, prometheus...).

 

I may not follow any of these silly religions but this country was founded on freedom of religion for a reason.  And I love this country, enough to fight for anyone's right to practice their religion whether or not I believe in it.  This is not a christian nation, in fact many of the founding fathers were atheist.  The constitution has provisions in it to keep church and state separated.

 

I'm glad there is more diversity in america.  The more religions that exist the better perspective people have on what a religion is - a bunch of superstitious faith-based beliefs based on no scientific or logical evidence whatsover.  Your religion is no better than anyone else's because most likely, they're all wrong.

August 26, 2010
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After studying all different religions, I can not imagine anyone choosing Islam on their own. I can see if you were raised in the faith and that the entire country is Islam or you are forced to be Muslim (like in most Islamic regions) but to have choice and the ability to study the religion and decide to embrace it?? If you read anything about Islam, you can readily see how it was created by a man who took ideas from both Judiasm and Christianity. Worse, its history is not full of saints or charities or inspiring religious leaders. There is nothing about it that is attractive at all on a spiritual level aside from saying prayers many times a day. But all world religions do offer daily prayer. Look at nuns who say prayer seven times a day called the Divine Office.

August 26, 2010
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Emerald...Hey you believe in nature's wonders...God created that for all of us...and for those that have never heard of Jesus that qualifies them for eternal life, but rejection of Jesus is also rejection of that gift. Science has said that our bodies are made to last forever, but a signal goes out at about 32 to start to die...Not Biblical, but my opinion only, Christ died at 32, and he lead the perfect life. Science backing up spirituality...What do you think?

Oh one more...Man can ruin religion...so belong to the church of God which is all the people that believe in HIM not a particular sect...Jesus is God, and he dwelt among us...

August 26, 2010
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I can't believe humans still believe in any religion(my invisible daddy is right and yours is wrong LOL). It will be the death of us because it is all fairy tales. I believe there will be an "End Time" not because it is a prophecy but all the religious nuts will make it happen.  Christians have murdered Jews for centuries than after the holocaust started feeling guilty and caused more problems by giving British occupied land away to the survivors creating even more issues.  It is funny how Christians say that it is such a miracle that god formed Israel again LOL.  Christians have also hated the Muslims causing murder and wars. Muslims have committed terrorism which is true, but in comparison they don't hold a candle to the Israeli and Christian Massacres.  Religion must die to preserve Mankind.

August 26, 2010
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May the "blessings" of religion one day fade into the deep past to create a more sane & more just human race.....

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99

Bunch of morons are writing stupid comments about a courageous woman who embraced Islam ( the best religion on the face of the earth that is not man made).

Every now and then you guys made changes into the Bible to suit your convenience. You have sex in your

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Do you want to know the truth about Islam?

 

- Mohammed on his own admitted that he thought the earlier revelations were given by Shaitan (devil) and tried to kill himself.

 

- He called the 3 daughters of the Moon God (al-ilah or allah) of Arabia blessed. Do you know why the crescent moon is so important in Islam. Now you know.

 

- The black stone at Kabah was worshiped by the pagans of Arabia for a long long time, before Mohammed decided to

take over.

 

- Mohammed was married to Aisha at the age of 8 when he was 56 years old. In short he was a pedophile.

 

- Quran claims that the Sun sets in the muddy waters!

 

- Quran claims that the first man Adam was made from blood (where did the blood come from, dirt, semen (where did the semen come from), water, mud etc!

 

Almost every month there has been at least one arrest where another terrorist has been captured in North America or Europe, all inspired by the violence preached by the Quran.

 

I could go on and on, but I will stop here.

August 26, 2010
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There appears to be a racist rheoteric and streak that has showed it's ugly head in our beautiful country. Let me draw the picture: White, Christian, finnancilay struggling and socialy inadequate Republican male.

The lady has very right to convert to whatever religion she sees fit and I am sure all those "expert" opinions I have read above comes from indivisuals that have really studied Islam/Judaism and christianity. LOL.....Enjoy your Tea party and dont forget to dry cleean your Klan sheets....

August 26, 2010
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Time for my favorite game . . . picking completely random quotes from the Quran, and seeing what kind of "enlightenment" is provided.  Here is the first one . . .

 

"Indeed, those who came with falsehood are a group among you. Do not think it bad for you; rather it is good for you. For every person among them is what punishment he has earned from the sin, and he who took upon himself the greater portion thereof - for him is a great punishment.  Why, when you heard it, did not the believing men and believing women think good of one another and say, 'This is an obvious falsehood?'  Why did they who slandered not produce for it four witnesses? And when they do not produce the witnesses, then it is they, in the sight of Allah , who are the liars." 24:11 - 24:13

 

I didn't read anything surrounding this quote, so I am not sure what it is about, but I see it warns of punishment.  The Quran loves to warn people about dire punishments.  Fear is its main motivator.  It accuses people who disagree with slander, and calls them liars.  Notice the "with us or against us" mentality the Quran fosters?  It asks why someone does not produce four witnesses.  How many crimes that do not occur in broad daylight have four witnesses?  That is an unrealistically high burden of proof.  If this were really written by a deity, he would make a bad legislator.  I see no enlightenment in this small part of the Quran.

August 26, 2010
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I was referring to a different comment and not yours. My apologies. Koran is the most truthful thing ever assembled.

August 26, 2010
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Hey Yasii!  I'm afraid it is you that is the illiterate and uneducated one.  What punishment will allah bring upon us?  Oh wait, he can't do anything.  He leaves it up to people like you.  Eff off.

August 26, 2010
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Personally, I think Americans (usually young ones) choose Islam just to "be different". They get to wear clothes that stand out. They get to be part of an isolated community (and Muslims do tend to isolate themselves, send their children to only-Islamic schools, avoid American culture and holiday, etc.). With the headscarf, they can appear different. Honestly, though, you need to ask God to help you find the truth because Islam is FAR FROM IT.

August 26, 2010
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religion is for idiots. But, I realize that people willfully sacrifice themselves in the name of God, which provides a nice comfy, cozy freedom for me to enjoy! Duke it out you dumba55e5, while I sit back and watch it all on TV.

August 26, 2010
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P54

FREEDOM OF RELIGION.  WAKE UP!

 

 

What would you do if you received a letter like this, a letter saying that living for Christ could mean dying a violent death? What if the letter also included a real bullet? Would you tell your children? Would you leave your home or would you stay and face the consequences?

 

 

Letters like this are being sent to Christians living in a Muslim nation.These death threat letters to Christians are often accompanied by real bullets. The message is clear: convert to Islam, leave or die.

 

Following is a copy of the letter:

 

 

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,

 

AND OF HIS FINAL PROPHET,MOHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)

 

The true religion of Islam WILL RISE in your area,you cannot stop Allah's will.

 

We have been watching your family;we have seen you go to church and seen you pray to your false god. We know that you are infidels, and we will deal with you as our holy Quran declares:

 

In Sura 9 verse 5,it says TO SLAY the idolaters wherever you find them; take them captive and besiege them.

 

It also says in Sura 9 verse 29 to FIGHT those who have been given the scriptures and believe not in Allah or the Last Day or follow not the religion of truth.

 

If you and your entire family do not leave your false religion and follow Islam, you will be killed. Your sons will be slaughtered and your daughters will become Muslim wives, bearing sons who will fight for Allah in this region.

 

Your ONLY other option is to FLEE TONIGHT. Leave your home and everything behind.

 

ALLAHU AKBAR!

 

(THEN FOLLOWS A PICTURE OF A BULLET AND BLOOD).

 

IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE INVITING TO AMERICA? IS THIS THE FREEDOM YOU LONG FOR? SAY NO TO ISLAM AND YES TO JESUS CHRIST.

 

August 26, 2010
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I hope this woman got to date Eddie, because it seems she changed her religion just because he did. I hope it worked out for her. In any case this is a stupidest reason I have ever heard to convert to Islam. Try again.

August 26, 2010
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Can I get a single Muslim to denounce Muhammad's massacre of the Banu Qurayza?  Just one Muslim?

 

Waiting ...

August 26, 2010
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Wyatt..."science" says nothing of the sort lol

 

aging is due to a lifetime of mitochondrial oxidative damage, and a failure of the telomeres of DNA to replicate perfectly due to imperfections in the telomerase enzyme.

 

There is no magical age.  Thanks for proving why people believe in religion though: because they don't know any better

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99 and Wasabiwahabi here's your religion of peace...

 

ANKARA,(IRIN) - Human rights groups the world over have strongly condemned the recent execution of two gay teenagers in northeastern Iran.

 

"It's entirely unacceptable that people are actually killed because of their sexuality," Kursad Kahramananoglu, head of the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA), the oldest and only membership-based lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) organisation in the world, maintained from Istanbul.

 

While exact details of the case remained unclear, he vowed if confirmed, ILGA would pursue the matter to the highest level, including the United Nations, noting a rise in homophobia in the world today. Kahramananoglu was not alone in his condemnation.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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the first time I wrote to a Muslim about Islam and asked some questions, he called me a "Racist", many times since then I have been called racist for questioning the rationality of Islam....it's Muslims themselves which are mistaking Islam for a race, or else the lack of acceptance of Islam as racist....to me it's a matter of common sense, if you read the Quran it's unbelievable, like any other

"Holy Book" they are all utter non sense and are obviously fictional, take the animal Muhammad supposedly rode on, it could step to the horizon, the jinn...made of fire eh? what about the Sun prostrating itself under the Throne every night? Hadiths are nutty, trying to explain the fiction as well as quoting Muhammad who knew nothing about.......the Sun for one thing...no use telling me about Miracles, they are all non sense and exaggerated claims about non sense.

August 26, 2010
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I see many American non-Christians(pagans, new-age types, Wiccans, etc) say "Both Christianity and Islam are oppressive"

 

True, organized Christianity can be quite oppressive. However it doesn't hold a candle to Islam which takes oppression to a new level. ( Beheading, Stoning, you ain't seen nothing yet)

August 26, 2010
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I have absolutely no issue with muslims, all I ask is that they respect everyone else's religion as they would like their religion respect and it would be nice if they gave up the idea that they are the true believers and everone else is an "infidel"

 

OBTW it would be nice if they were to treat women with a modicum of respect.

 

If the Muslim religion is being hijacked but radicals why don't we see the mainstream muslims rising up to reclaim their religion or the lack of action an indication that the "Radical" are main stream

August 26, 2010
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It's not about Islam or Catholicism or Buddhism. But it’s about knowing who the real God is and know who he is. Are we sure we are worshiping the true God? Religion will not save you. If we die tomorrow (May God will not forbid it), are we ready to meet him if we don't know him?

From The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1. “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me.

I encourage everyone to read the Bible,King James Version  from cover to cover and find out all about God.

August 26, 2010
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Wyatt...there is no magical age of when people start to die.  Aging is due to a lifetime of mitochondrial oxidative damage and a failure of the telomeres of DNA to replicate due to a progressive deterioration of telomerase.

 

Thanks for proving why people follow a religion though: because they don't know any better

August 26, 2010
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P54, again educate yourself since this is not Islam and it is a Taliban like force which is not allowed by true Islam. They are doing it wrong since they themselves did not learn the true message of Islam. You can not blame the DVD player but yourself if you are watching porn on it.

August 26, 2010
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DavidS17, what do dark matter and oort clouds (you misspelled "oort") have to do with mystical nonsense?  I do not see the point you are trying to make.

August 26, 2010
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Islam is the enemy of civilized human beings...everywhere not just in the United States.

August 26, 2010
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She obviously did this to get attention.  That's the oldest attention ploy in the book: randomly do something extremely unusual and asinine, then get all offended when people make fun of you for it.  Don't tell me you did it for peace or spirituality.  You did it for attention, or you wouldn't be making videos and sending them to CNN.

 

Why do I dislike Muslims?  The fact is, Muslims are responsible for tons of terrorism around the world every day.  This violence is fomented by Muslim religions leaders.  Right within mosques, madrassas train bombers to kill.  When was the last time there was a terrorist school right in a church or temple?  If I had kids and one of the kids in the neighborhood was a Muslim you can make damn sure my kids wouldn't be playing at their house and they wouldn't be invited to my kids' birthday parties.

August 26, 2010
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Ah, the ignorance of Americans. I am a Christian, but have researched the Islam faith. It is a beautiful and peaceful religion, a lot like Buddhism. It is the misunderstanding/misinterpretation of ignorant people, including the "fundamentalists" that twist it into a violent religion. Nothing in the Quuaran is violent unless taken out of context. The "Jhihad" aspect is an ancient rule, much like the pork will kill you aspect of Juddhiaism.

 

Come on people, let's be open minded and intellectual about this!

August 26, 2010
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"There appears to be a racist rheoteric and streak that has showed it's ugly head in our beautiful country. Let me draw the picture: White, Christian, finnancilay struggling and socialy inadequate Republican male."

 

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!

 

White and male, ok, but extremely liberal.   I voted for Obama, but I regret it. I went to uni on full scholarship and am a member of the Triple Nine Society (easily verifiable since you have my real name).  In fact, my minor was in (PCMC) Religious Studies.

 

Islam is not a race. 

August 26, 2010
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thereligonofpeace.com All you ever needed to know about Islam but were to afraid to ask.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy 99 -

You're right to be concerned about the abused children, but remember that your beloved prophet was a pedophile, too. Aisha, his ninth and last wife, was the ripe old age of 6 when he married her. Of course, she was much too young for sex.

For that, Muhammad waited until she was 8.

No one looks up to sexual predators, do they? So how is it that Muslims believe that God spoke to us through one?

August 26, 2010
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Organized religon was the worst thing that ever happened to man as a species.  More wars and atrocities have been carried out in the name of any god than is imaginable.  If there was scuh a loving god, or just gods out there then they are cowards cause they let a good deal of bad crap happen. I think it is more a series of stories for early man to explain science that was not understood.  As well as creating fear to make people act a certain way. You can have it all.  Islam so far is the worst I have ever seen with breeding violence, and christanity is second. 

August 26, 2010
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All religions are the same, created by men to oppress others.

August 26, 2010
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Freedom is provided by Christian soldiers who are willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good, and we call it patriotic pride. Altruistic Muslims are doing the same thing, sacrificing themselves for the greater good, but hey are doing it because of anomie.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99 is concerned about the abuse of children...unless they are Gay and then she believes they should be flogged until the skin is hanging from their backs in shreds and then hung by a rope until they are dead.  Muslims are such lovely people...NOT.

August 26, 2010
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kerroni, is your mother a vulgar woman who did not teach you manners. You never said anything like that about Jesus who Muslims love also but you have so much hate for a person who is the best of the best of the best of the best (mashaallah) and you will see it on the day of judgement when your own mom will not recognize you. You truly are an educated American and most probably a Christian. Keep spreading the criss crossed religion but you can only do it by giving aids to countries or by your media and by nothing else.

August 26, 2010
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No Muslim can face rational questions about his/her faith without getting angry.

 

This is the failing of Islam - inability to disagree peacefully.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99: P54, again educate yourself since this is not Islam and it is a Taliban like force which is not allowed by true Islam. They are doing it wrong since they themselves did not learn the true message of Islam.

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Get real. Which is the true face of Islam, then.

 

Saudis lead the Sunni branch of Islam encompassing 80% of muslims and Iran represents Shia's that represents nearly 20%.

 

Both are the vilest nations on earth. They have the most in-human laws stifling freedom of religion and human rights. Saudis were the earliest sponsors of the Taliban and still support them.

 

What more need I say!

 

 

August 26, 2010
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". I am a Christian, but have researched the Islam faith. It is a beautiful and peaceful religion, a lot like Buddhism."

 

This is risibly stupid.  How is Islam like Buddhism?  Does it promote the Middle Way?  Does it teach that gods and demons are irrelevant; it is attachment which causes desire which causes suffering?  Does Islam teach that snuffing out is the only solution to suffering? 

 

Does Buddhism teach total submission to Allah, the only god, and that Muhammad is his (final) prophet?  Does Buddhism teach that the Qur'an is the eternal and uncreated word of Allah?  Does Buddhism even recognize the existence of Allah?

 

Ridiculous.

 

I have also studied Islam. If find your learning extremely lacking. 

August 26, 2010
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I converted to "I don't care".

August 26, 2010
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Calmness of spirit has nothing to do with Muslim practice. Anybody who practices some meditation, yoga, martial arts or any other spiritual contemplation become more balanced and happy... unless of course, if they are religious zealots and missionaries forcing their beliefs on others. Those who go out of their way to convert others into their belief system infringe on the freedom rights of others... then of course, karma takes over and is no inner peace to be had.

August 26, 2010
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if you want a good Arab analysis of Islam, go to youtube and look up "AllahTheLeg" or "Christian Prince" he's got a channel and he reads and writes Arabic and will directly translate the Quran, verse by verse he disects it and proves it's utter non sense........then again, he believes in Christianity....but at least you can get an Arab reading and translating Arabic so no one can say that you got a Mistranslation of the Quran....check it out, it's laughable really, I have no idea how anyone can convert to a Religion, they need a doctor to look at their heads.

August 26, 2010
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99% of the converts in islam happen in prison population. this must be the 1% exception. wonder if islam makes people violent or is it inherently violent people who are drawn to islam. Either way, its not good for a civilized world.

August 26, 2010
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Silly ,silly woman. Look at her heavy make-up. It looks like a little game to her.

It is not! Maybe she will end up with a husband of the Islamic faith and then get a dose of Islam(sharia law)

August 26, 2010
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Here is another completely random quote from the Quran . . .

 

"By the racers, panting, And the producers of sparks when striking And the chargers at dawn, Stirring up thereby clouds of dust, Arriving thereby in the center collectively, Indeed mankind, to his Lord, is ungrateful. And indeed, he is to that a witness. And indeed he is, in love of wealth, intense. But does he not know that when the contents of the graves are scattered And that within the breasts is obtained, Indeed, their Lord with them, that Day, is fully Acquainted." 100:1 - 100:11

 

Huh?  I don't get it.  I do see, however, that it scolds mankind for being ungrateful.  It also seems to scold greed.  Typical how religion uses a sense of false guilt to try to control people.  I don't see any enlightenment here either.

August 26, 2010
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Please! Understand the basics of this.  It is about an ideolgy and a way of life.  Islam is not compatible with America because it does not tolerate "the Other." We all believe in religious freedom her in the States and have fought for it against tyrants before. They will use the mask of religion and religious freedom to pull their Trojan Horse right through our gates.  Figure it out soon, or your children's children will be enslaved.

August 26, 2010
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Hatred towards Islam only serves to escalate existing tensions. Let's celebrate positive examples of Islam, rather than looking for negative ones.

 

The reality is that most issues with Islam are actually cultural issues, and have nothing to do with religion except that it serves as a nice excuse for extremist behavior.

August 26, 2010
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To Noport, I am a woman and I lived in the middle east and none of the stuff you mentioned happened to me or any one in my school. You are an ignorant victim of the media who take few incidents and pretend that is the whole culture or religion just to feel superior. Most muslims are peaceful and good people. The Middle East is mostly a great place to live (low crime, no teenage pregnancies...etc.) People who think Christianity is perfect, how do you explain the KKK and their violence and hate? How do you explain the crusades and the holocaust? Get off your high horses and stop being hypocrites.

August 26, 2010
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Taking on account the way muslim women are treated... I am thinking she did not have to convert. She should have just called Chris Brown and save herself some time and trouble

August 26, 2010
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Wadhams is 100% correct.  Right on!

August 26, 2010
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Adios Amigos! I delivered the case. Keep on barking on the religion issue but you can not do zipp because you are as ignorant in this age as the icemen were in that era. What's the difference...you are still a moron. heheheheeeh. See ya. Gotta go catch a bus and have dinner at the top of the Empire States building. Don't be jealous...I can afford it since I teach IT courses at a corp executives there. Byeeeeee. Love ya all. XOXOXO. Tracy.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99 I believe the term for you is "better off dxxd"

August 26, 2010
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Who's cares.

August 26, 2010
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Chrishughes-

The fact that Muslims favor sons and kill and stone daughters through infanticide or other mechanisms, and are consistently turned down by American women, might be the source of their tensions that you speak of...

August 26, 2010
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Wadhams- you got that right. how far do they have to go before you stop being so tolerant. it gets handled delicately because people think of the number 1.5 billion muslims. but islam is a one-way street and does not allow conversion out of it, so how many of those people don't really believe in islam and want out, one can only imagine.

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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google "OSHO video" and watch few of them. You cannot follow any faith. Dont follow any faith - belief system given by someone

August 26, 2010
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P54

Tracy99:

 

The letters are from Muslims, not Taliban. The quotations are from Quaran, Sura 9 and says to slay and fight. Taliban did not write the Quaran, they just do what it tells them to do. Go and do likewise. Or follow the teachings of Jesus and the Bible. The Catholic priesthood were not invented by Jesus, actually the Bible speaks against it.

August 26, 2010
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And one more point for HoustonMom...I don't think you deserve to be a Mom since you are also full of hate. I can imagine your kids, ugly replica of yours, not educated and falling into drugs and being abused by their own Dad (if they still have Dad around them).

Oh sorry, see ya...love ya all.xoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooooooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxoooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxooxoxoxoxoooxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxooxoxooxoxoox.

Do you think Tracy is a Muslim name, you dumb asses:)

hahahahahaha

August 26, 2010
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I'm so glad you converted to Islam. I like to share Qur'an verses for explaination from Muslims. Like 4:34 "Husbands are the protectors and maintainers of wives, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them first; next refuse to share their beds; and last beat them (lightly)..." STRAIGHT FROM MY ENGLISH QUR'AN. Talk amongst yourselves.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99: Adios Amigos! I delivered the case. Keep on barking on the religion issue but you can not do zipp because you are as ignorant in this age as the icemen were in that era.

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You never answered any of the issues raised about the Quran. It is the stupidest of the many religious texts that I have studied (read my earlier posts) written by a pedophile who at 56 had sex with an eight year old girl named Aisha. A man who tried to kill himself earlier, since he thought he received revelations from Satan (as revealed in the Hadiths).

 

Run, run, run... that's the best you can do !!!

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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It's sad how some people use religions as an excuse to hate. There is much hate here against Muslims. I don't hate Christians because of the KKK. Why do you hate Muslims and Islam because of the action of terrorists? It seems like this hate is based on fear and ignorance.

August 26, 2010
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Justicetoall

I cannot agree more with you. Ignorance in the west about islam is extreamly immense, and it is totally evident by you ignorant comments about Islam and Profit Muhammd. It is ignorant biggoted peaople like you who make life hard for others because they are different. Learn first the truth about other religions and people before posting your insulting comments!!!!!

August 26, 2010
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Why should we care about simpletons who get converted from one religion to another? They people are simply pons in a big fricken game of chess. But used properly, a pon can create a check-mate. Christians have them too. They should have sex with more kids, this might draw a lot of Muslim converts to Christianity.

August 26, 2010
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Well yes, America is made up of multiple cultures and ehthnic backrounds, but over time we developed our own kind of culture.  The cultures all came together in a mix and we made one of our own.  Yes America has a culture and up until now, it did not include much influence from Middle Eastern cultures.  This means middle eastern culture and the introduction of more Muslims there is a threat to what people know today of the American culture.  I would hate to see Americas traditions start to go out the window with so many people saying we are a mix of cultures, we still have our own and I hope that Americans and Middle Eastern immigrants stay true to that culture.

August 26, 2010
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Watch this movie  ,  a true story “Stoning of Soraya M”, you will come to know the reality.  Some smart people are writing Middle East is peace.  Where is peace in Middle East.  They kill each other in spite of  their strict and rigid  laws.  If they have Freedom like America, by now half of their population  would have been down .  That’s why they are coming to USA to disturb our freedom. 

August 26, 2010
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mo67-

And while you watch your PC ps and qs, you won't eve know what hit you until it's too late. You'll be speaking Arabic and turning towards Mecca before you know it.

August 26, 2010
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I am so happy to see content American Muslim women, To those who think our religionwas started by somebody raping and killing inncoent people is totally ignorant. They just need to read some reputable boooks of religious history. Islam does not treat wome bad it gives them equality and any "translation" that says otherwise is just incorrect. Ignorant. And people from any religion can be mean and cruel and so can be some unfortunate Muslims.I will never defend a "bad" person, no matter what their religion but you cannot blame that onto our religion, Islam teaches respect for all religion, tolerance and peace. who every thinks otherwise just does not know.

August 26, 2010
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America is attacked in the name of Islam in 2001, and she converts. 

August 26, 2010
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Holy Quran Surah(Chapter 2) verse 6 through 12

 

2:6 Those who disbelieve — it being alike to them whether thou warn them or warn them not — they will not believe.

2:7 Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing; and there is a covering on their eyes, and for them is a grievous chastisement.

2:8 And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the Last Day; and they are not believers.

2:9 They seek to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they perceive not.

2:10 In their hearts is a disease, so Allah increased their disease, and for them is a painful chastisement because they lie.

2:11 And when it is said to them, Make not mischief in the land, they say: We are but peacemakers.

2:12 Now surely they are the mischief-makers, but they perceive not.

 

It is amazing to have read such a beautiful sorry and then see so many idiotic and bigoted responses. Dear ignorant idiots what do you think the end of your bigotry and hatred of Muslim will be? Do you think that whatever God you claim to serve will be pleased?

August 26, 2010
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We are 16 days into this holiest month of Ramadan and muslims worldwide have already racked up 472 murders in the name of their "religion of peace". 1060 murders last month. (www.thereligionofpeace.com). Liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder and this idiot is proof.

August 26, 2010
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I'm getting tired of CNN hawking Islam.  Why don't you balance this with the story of one of the many women who've fled the repression and violence of Islam?

 

Maebelle is a fool and her children will probably be violent.

August 26, 2010
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Hey Caspiansea99...which is a fake name ,of course.

Aisha was a blessed woman and the dearest. Again read and educate yourself and do not compare things with todays time where people are not marrying until they are 50 or having sex with same sex and marrying with same sex. In that time, even in Jesus' time, people used to get married at young ago and she was more mature that your mother is today (of course) and well grown with command on religion and social affairs. There are so many questions I have no answers for but I submit to the higher power. You guys don't even know why yo ucall this beautiful human being a son of God even though he never said he is the son of God. But you guys made it up like you did many things. The biggest of the biggest crime on th eface of the earth is associating someone else with GOD. Think about it, your mind will tire.

Hey...go home, enjoy your wife and kids and leave the hate here and do not pass on to your kids if you are really serious about this so called peace Americans talk about in the media.

Bye for good.

August 26, 2010
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Fear and Ignorance?  You have got to be kidding!  We are talking about examples from history and the fact that it repeats itself.  We have seen the intolerance of others form powerful movements and waves of domination since the dawn of time.  Islam is another means by which one group controls another.  Stop this bleeding-heart business and see the truth. CNN will be a memory (as will free press everywhere) if they have their way. Too many in my family have fought and bled (starting with the Revolutionary War and every one since) to preserve freedom and liberty. As Ronald Reagan said, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."

August 26, 2010
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Here is my favorite Qur'an verse. I hope you converts can explain it thoroughly so I don't misinterpret and spread lies about Islam...verse 33:50 "O Prophet (Muhammad) we have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have paid their dowers; and those whom your right hand possesses out of the PRISONERS OF WAR whom Allah has assigned to you; and DAUGHTERS OF YOU PATERNAL UNCLES and AUNTS; and DAUGHTERS OF YOUR MATERNAL UNCLES and AUNTS who migrated from Makkah with you; and ANY BELIEVEING WOMAN WHO DEDICATES HER SOUL TO THE PROPHET IF THE PROPHET WISHES TO WED HER; THIS ONLY FOR YOU, NOT for the believers at large...." Pretty incredible, these "revealations" seem to favor ol' Muhammad...

August 26, 2010
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Well the only thing that makes sense to 'convert' to is nothing - that is atheism. why trade one false god for another?

August 26, 2010
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All i can say like other media CNN is milking on this whole mosque controversy.

August 26, 2010
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Ramadan mubarak.  It's the 16th day of fasting, and alhamdulillah it's going smoothly.  May God forgive us and reward us with the best. 

August 26, 2010
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Enemies of America =

1. ALL RADICAL MUSLIMS WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT DECENCY IS

2. LIBERALS WHO THINK "POLICIAL CORRECTNESS" IS SAFER THAN COMMON SENSE

3. THE TERM "RACIST" IS THE NEW AGE MCCARTHYIST "COMMUNIST"

 

The day Republicans and Democrats can come together, is the day we can put our collective heads together and rid this Earth of the scourge that hates all western civilization. If it is now U.S. to protect the Earth, then who in the hell is it going to be?

August 26, 2010
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"For the record, kszremski is American. She converted to Islam in 2001 and is now the media director for American Muslims for Palestine."

 

What they aren't telling you is that kzremski is media director for cleansing all Christians, Jews, and Druize from Israel.  Another Islamic imperialist.

August 26, 2010
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I cant believe why any women would want to be a muslim, knowing very well that Quran instructs men to treat women as their sex toy, marry 4 wives and younger the better most of the time teen age girls...  Islam was started by Mohammad who was just a thug, raping young girls and killing people that came in his way. Islam allows men to be dominant and give no rights to women , which suits muslim men well so they rape girls and then have sex all day, without thinking how to feed their kids nor worry about how to better themselves or their country / society...   Read chapter 4 of Quran..google it..

August 26, 2010
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Islam is the truth. It teaches to worship God without giving him partners of any kind. The only sin that is never forgiven is praying to any besides God most high, who created the heavens, earth, sun, moon, stars, and trillions of other galaxies and planets and creatures in our solar system. Jesus is not God's son, nor is Jesus in God's image. God is light, and the most glorious. Whatever he intends he says to it be, and it is. Just as he made Adam from no man or woman, Jesus was made upon his command. And God make believers, and whoever he leads to the straight path, there is none who can avert it. And whoever God leads astray, there is none who can put them on the straight path.

August 26, 2010
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Wadhams

The thoughts you expressed are common and they are total misconception. you are mixing between Islam and practices performed by ethnicities belonging to Islam. Islam as a religion and idiology is extreamly tolerant to other religions, ethnicities, genders, etc. just read the Quran and it's interpretation and you'll know. one of the basic themes in the quran is God saying "I created you of man and woman, different peoples and tribes so you can get to know each other". So intermingelling with different peaople is at the basics of Islam.judging Islam by the dispicable practiced of some who belong to it is like looking at what the spanish inquisition did to others and conclude that Christianity is a brutal religion. If you want to learn about true islam, ask a western convert, becuase they converted out of true understanding and not because they were born into it.

August 26, 2010
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So basically.....you converted to a religion because you were an angsty teenager looking for a fad to follow, and one of your friends did it so you figured what the heck.

 

Congratulations on becoming one more emotionally unhealthy people in this country looking for a pack to run with and finding it in imaginary men in the sky.

August 26, 2010
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shazomar:

...........,(1) To those who think our religionwas started by somebody raping and killing inncoent people is totally ignorant. ............(2) Islam does not treat wome bad it gives them equality and any "translation" that says otherwise is just incorrect. Ignorant. ...............(3) Islam teaches respect for all religion, tolerance and peace. who every thinks otherwise just does not know.

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(1) Islam started off by wiping out two Jewish tribes in Arabia that did not accept Mohammed as their prophet. Most of the middle east was Christian and Islam spread by the sword tho these regions. Three million Armenian Christians were killed by Turkish muslim soldiers.

 

(2) Just need to look at how the Saudi, Iranians, Pakis etc treat their women and you will understand. Women are worse than second class citizens.

 

(3) Quran says to kill the infidel and not to associate with Christians and Jews!!!

 

August 26, 2010
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Shazomar...if we read books of history written by Muslims, they will paint a picture of Muhammad that sounds exactly like Santa Claus. Read history written by Hindu scholars, or other non-Muslims and you get the real story. Just as the Taliban blew up those statues in Afghanistan (I believe that is where it was), Muslims have been spinning and rewriting history ever since Muhammad. I just posted two direct quotes from the Qur'an. Let me know what long winded explaination is required to justify them.

August 26, 2010
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stone the loser

August 26, 2010
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I agree with Lorelord. It appears CNN has become completely infatuated with flattering Islam and victimizing it (or providing a pedestal to those who do either). Perhaps it is a reaction to Americans' overwhelming rejection of the slap-in-the-face Ground Zero Mosque; maybe it's just CNN's tendency to side with all things currently at odds with America. Either way, CNN needs to drop the agenda and start reporting the news.

August 26, 2010
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Yah yah yah - some women like to eat feces and have sex with donkeys, but it really hasn't piqued my interest as much as a woman converting to Islam. Yah.

August 26, 2010
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Good for you. You joined the biggest evil cult in the history of mankind. A cult that specifically degrades women and whose "messiah" was a pedophile and murderer. Brilliant move.

August 26, 2010
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Another suburban, middle class girl who wanted attention so she 'converts' to Islam. Sad. I knew a few girls like her in high school. It is really cool and multicultural now, but wait until their Muslim husband backhands them at the dinner table and they run to their new muslim friends, and they spit on her for disobeying her husband.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99 don't worry about my kids, they are pretty cool, oh and their father, he's an ER Trauma Surgeon dedicated to helping save people, not butchering them like Muslims do.  Me, I'm an Economics professor, not too worried about a simpleton peon like you.

August 26, 2010
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CNN is doing this because they are sponsored by Saudi money.

August 26, 2010
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@bromung Muslims consider Jesus to be the Messiah, just not the begotten son of God.

August 26, 2010
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For all the hater, religious racists and Media brainwashed peoples, if you are real Christian and have read the bible and understand it, just go and read the Quran only once, I bet you'll find the reality and join Islam. Or if you believe in God just for a week ask your God to show you the right path by heart, I bet God will hint you and you'll join billions of others, already joined the religion of God ISLAM(it happened thousands of the converted peoples, even with the fundamental racists, priests, bishops and rabbis). So please open your eyes accept the reality.

August 26, 2010
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"media director for American Muslims for Palestine"

 

Hmmm, can we say anti-semitic little white girl ?

August 26, 2010
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bromung Muslims consider Jesus to be the Messiah. Just not the begotten son of God.

August 26, 2010
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Congratulation! Maeblle,

 

You are now a second-class citizen and suddently reduced by 50%.  Children born in Muslim families are forced to be a Muslim.  If a Muslim converts to another religion or become athiest, the Islamic punishment is execution.  Please read the Al-Nesa Sureh of Quran, where your husband is permitted to beat you.  Of course, you will get a lot of sympathy from the other women in your husband's life, except for his wives who hate your gutts.  By the way if you decide to stay single, you would be labled as a prostitute.  Either way Muslim men have the right to beat / kill you according to Quran.  By the way, Quran was written many years after Mohamad died.  It contains a lot of contradictions.  It was created by a committee membered by men only and chaired by Othman - the third Imam (Kalif of Islam)- by the order of Omar - the second Imam (Kalif of Islam).  The majority of it is a compilation of quotes from Mohamad, which where memorized by people many years before his death.  Only a few of the quotes were kept and the rest were destroyed as they were in contradiction with other ones or were not useful for the Muslim MEN.  By this process quite a lot of impurity entered into Quran.  For example in one sureh Mohamad invites people to accept the God of Jews and Chrisians.  In another one he orders killing Jews and Muslims.    Alas, it also contains so much superstition, which takes quite a long time to seive through them.  By the way, when some one is killed "for" Islam, they congratulate their mourners.  So, please take the "Congratulation" at the beginning of the this comment with a grain of salt, as you should with Quran. Unfortunately, Muslims believe that they are word of God and can not be changed not aknowledging that the it was already changed by the Quran Writing Committee.   The great Persian poet Rumi uses an analogy comparing Quran with a walnut, saying that he took the core of it and left the shell for asses (idiots).

If Muslims (and other religious people) follow the good life advises of Quran (or other "holy" books), they would prosper and embrace peace. Otherwise, they would destroy the world.

 

XMuslim 

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99:

Hey Caspiansea99...which is a fake name ,of course.

Aisha was a blessed woman and the dearest. Again read and educate yourself and do not compare things with todays time where people are not marrying until they are 50 or having sex with same sex and marrying with same sex. In that time, even in Jesus' time, people used to get married at young ago and she was more mature that your mother is today (of course) and well grown with command on religion and social affairs. There are so many questions I have no answers for but I submit to the higher power.

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Here is a quote from the Islamic Haidth:

"As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why the prophet peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his male member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his male member not like other believers.."

 

SHOCKING, SHOCKING, SHOCKING!!!

August 26, 2010
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MarsBlackMan,"Do you think that whatever God you claim to serve will be pleased?" Yep. I also believe I'll have a cold beer on this lovely summer night. Sounds like you could use a cold one, yourself. Have yourself a boilermaker and relax. (Now, if we could just buy the whole Muslim community a frosty mug, maybe they'd 'chill out.' a little bit.)

August 26, 2010
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These converts have sold their souls to evil.  What horrible people.

August 26, 2010
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Congratulations on their conversion! I have no issues with anyone choosing whatever religion they want or none at all. To be fair, CNN should also publish stories of "Why I left Islam". I am sure there are many such stories as well. I have heard many claims that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US, but I would like to know if anyone is keeping tab of how many people are actually leaving. Probably not, as it is not less sensational and also at least some people are afraid of the reprisals.

August 26, 2010
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Jesus can lay an egg.. so can Mohammed. They both suck.

They were both wacked by the Romans. It's high time us modern day Romans get to wackin' those Mohammajihads, but they might like that since they kill off all of their women.

 

DURKA DURKA!

August 26, 2010
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Be what you want in this country, wear what you want, pray to whatever god makes you happy but be aware others do not think.....they react out of emotion, ignorance and/or fear. Sooner or later the Muslim murders (let's stop calling them terrorists and call they either cowards or murders for this is what they are) will attack this country again and there will be hatred spilled in the streets.

August 26, 2010
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Liberal friends, enough fuzzy thinking, please. The old canard of "all religious fundamentalists are equally evil" is just plain wrong. Yes, Christianity used to be much more warlike, the Crusades were pretty bloody, but organized Christianity has disavowed violent proselytizing, so the most religiously devout Christians are not a serious danger to anyone. (Nazis and Soviets were atheists, btw.)

 

And Judaism from the outset was never a universalistic religion, but saw itself as a nation among other nations -- read the Bible. It actually tries to dissuade converts (that, and centuries of being massacred, explains their relatively small numbers). When Jews had sovereignty in the ancient world, their fanatics were never interested in world domination, only protecting their own independence -- read Josephus. Today, the most fundamental and devout Jews live in Hassidic enclaves engaged in study of topics such as laws of Jewish holidays and tithing produce, song and spiritual pursuits, eschewing any violence or even political aspirations.

 

Islam, on the other hand, is a missionary, supercessionist religion that seeks to establish a world regime under Shariah. They have never, as a faith, worked at removing hatred or violence from their lexicon, and are as committed to bloody conquest of all lands that were once under Islamic control (Israel, Spain) and everywhere else -- hence Kashmir, Chechnya, Darfur, all of Islam's "bloody borders". This is the problem that Americans whose minds still work should have with Islam, as it is currently being preached. We should demand moderation a la Vatican II et al. before extending our arms and necks.

 

Distinguishing between religious ideologies requires some discernment. It is easy for atheists to say "a pox on all your houses," but we ignore the crucial differences at our own peril.

August 26, 2010
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Shame on these converts.  Saudi bitches.

August 26, 2010
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It is sad to see how the west and particularly people in the US have a bad conception about Islam and Muslims in general.Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance followed by people all over the world from Asia , to Africa , Europe , and here in the US.

 

The Quran teaches us to be tolerant towards other revealed religions and says:”…who who kills an innocent man is like one that killed the whole Humanity “ and :” who who save a man it is like he saved the whole humanity..”

 

Such teachings of justice tolerance and brotherhood among religions cant be from the devil.

 

The views and evil actions of a small group of extremists that give a bad image of muslims doesn’t represent the view of the vast majority of the 1.5 billions of peaceful muslims followers all over the world or Islam which is the fastest growing religion on earth.

 

Furthermore Islam shares more common views with the 2 other revealed religions which are Christianity and Judaism than differences.

 

The only main difference between Islam and Christianity is Jesus who is considered as a Prophet of God as Moses and Abraham and all the other prophets and messengers of God in Islam , Jesus has a particular position in Islam and Mary mother of Jesus has an entire sourate, sourate 19th dedicated to her and to the birth of Jesus in the Quran .

 

Christians believe that salvation can only be obtained by salvation through the Christ and that He is son of God, Jesus never uttered those words he was son of God and said :

 

“Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His

 

who sent Me.

 

Joh 12:49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who

 

sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.

 

Joh 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but

 

the will of Him who sent Me.

 

Mr 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good

 

but God alone

 

Joh 7:16 So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who

 

sent me;

 

Jesus called himself son of man and refused to be called son of God.

 

"And the devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak; for they knew that he was Christ." (Luke 4:41)

 

Some Christians, (not all) claim that Jesus implied that he was God. From the above verses, we

 

see that Jesus denied being God.

It now leaves the Christians who believe Jesus is God to provide just one single verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God". There is no such verse, so we see from the many quotes above, that the House did not belong to Jesus, it belonged to the ONE WHO SENT him.

 

The Quran, informs us that Jesus was a human messenger of God whose sole mission was to deliver God's message; he never possessed any power, and is now dead (4:171, 5:75, 117).

 

Those who consider Jesus to be God, or Son of God, or part of a trinity are "pagans" (5:17, 72, 73). Outstanding Christian scholars have reached these same conclusions (THE MYTH OF GOD INCARNATE, John Hick, ed., The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1977 & THE MYTH MAKER, Hyam Maccoby,Harper & Row 1986). Christianity is the product of Nicene (AD 325).

 

For more info please visit : www.submission.org

 

August 26, 2010
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human65

Congratulations on their conversion! I have no issues with anyone choosing whatever religion they want or none at all. To be fair, CNN should also publish stories of "Why I left Islam". I am sure there are many such stories as well. I have heard many claims that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US, but I would like to know if anyone is keeping tab of how many people are actually leaving. Probably not, as it is not less sensational and also at least some people are afraid of the reprisals.

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There are plenty that are leaving Islam everyday. There is even a good book that tells why.

 

"Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out - Susan Crimp"

August 26, 2010
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You converted because? YOU are an idiot! No american woman in their RIGHT mind would convert to a religion that doesn't respect women. Why would you convert because a friend did? While you may rule the roost the man does everything else including be the last decision. Why on earth would you want to be escourted everywhere by a male in the family and why on earth are you wearing make up?

August 26, 2010
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Mercy19

It is sad to see how the west and particularly people in the US have a bad conception about Islam and Muslims in general.Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance followed by people all over the world from Asia , to Africa , Europe , and here in the US.

The Quran teaches us to be tolerant towards other revealed religions and says:”…who who kills an innocent man is like one that killed the whole Humanity

 

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Really?

 

Is that why leaving Islam is punishable by death, as practiced in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and many other Islamic nations?

 

Actions speak louder than words !!!

 

 

August 26, 2010
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maybe what people should remember is this country was started by christians...who slaughtered and murdered the indians.  I am so sick and tired of people saying that Muslims are terrorists.  If all muslims are terrorists then so are all christians!

August 26, 2010
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OMG! Is that the same person at the top? She looks hot on the left, but for heaven's sake - she should put a damn veil on - quick!

 

that is not the same person.. is it? seriously?

August 26, 2010
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For Marsblackman...Read my previous quotes from the Qur'an as well as these, and as you should know there are so many more passages like these it is ridiculous to espouse what a peaceful religion this is...

 

2:190 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you...and SLAY THEM WHEEVER YOU CATCH THEM, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for TUMULT and oppression are worse than slaughter..."

 

8:12 "Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message "I am with you: give firmness to the believers; I will instil TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers; smite you abover their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them..."

 

8:15-16 "Oh you who believe...never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them...unless it is a strategem of war, or to retreat to a troop of his own, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is hell, an evil refuge indeed..."

 

8:60 "Against the unbelievers make ready your strength to the utmost of your power...to strike TERROR into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides..."

 

8:67 "It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war UNTIL HE HAS THOROUGHLY CRUSHED THE ENEMY in the battlefield..."

 

 

August 26, 2010
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The repressive and corrupt Saudis, flush with American oil money, are on a well-financed mission to impregnate America with Islam.  These "converts" are aiding the enemy, and by publishing these articles CNN acts as an enabler.

 

The word Islam means "submission".  What it means is submission to Saudi Arabian control.

August 26, 2010
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As-salamu-alakum (Peace be upon you),

 

I'm happy 9 years ago Allah guided your soul to Islam.  Sad to see so many misguided quotes here and so many misguided people.  Al-hamdulilah (All Praise is due to Allah) you have found happiness in Islam.  Inshallah (If Allah Wills) you have a blessed Ramadan and a blessed life.

 

Salaam,

Your Brother in Islam

August 26, 2010
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maryann767-

just by looking at your picture, it explains a whole lot about you and your stance.

August 26, 2010
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I don't know much about this religion, but everything I've seen or read about Islam shows abuse of women and children and violence towards those who don't follow the beliefs.  This is what I found on wikipedia about Aisha:

 

Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad.[1][3][4] American historian Denise Spellberg states that "these specific references to the bride's age reinforce Aisha's pre-menarcheal status and, implicitly, her virginity."[3] This issue of her virginity was of great importance to early historians who supported the Abbasid Caliphate. These historians considered that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible regarding the debate over the succession to Muhammad.[3]

 

Aisha stayed in her parents' home for several years until she joined Muhammad and the marriage was consummated.[1][3][4][5][6][7] Most of the sources indicate that she was nine years old at the time, with the single exception of al-Tabari, who records that she was ten.[3] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622; Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already migrated there. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and that Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.

 

What a pervert!  She was little girl playing with her toys and he molested her!  This is a good religion?  I think not!

August 26, 2010
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Please quote everything when quoting from the Qu'ran Liedetector it helps if you see it in full context and not just a brief piece.  It is the same with the Bible, if you just choose one verse but not read what is around it you can very well make something look bad!

 

August 26, 2010
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Anyone who believes in an invisible daddy in the sky is delusional... End of story.... Grow up...

August 26, 2010
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Listen to wisdom25:  "peace be upon you" and "blessed" and "praise due to allah" and "found happiness".  Huggy fuzzy float-on-a-cloud stuff.

 

However, as soon as you violate what wisdom25 thinks is appropriate, he/she will be all about "killing the infidel" because "it's the word of allah".

 

What a crock.

August 26, 2010
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For all the hater, religious racists and Media brainwashed peoples, if you are real Christian and have read the bible and understand it, just go and read the Quran only once, I bet you'll find the reality and join Islam. Or if you believe in God just for a week ask your God to show you the right path by heart, I bet God will hint you and you'll join billions of others, already joined the religion of God ISLAM(it happened thousands of the converted peoples, even with the fundamental racists, priests, bishops and rabbis). So please open your eyes accept the reality.

August 26, 2010
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This confused young lady does not realize that connected to Islam is Sharia law.  She must be very careful not to get involved in fundamentalist Sharia law.  I am sure she is not cool with their treatment of women.  

August 26, 2010
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"Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out - Susan Crimp"

 

Collected here are the powerful and brutally honest personal testimonies of men and women who have left Islam - at the risk of death. What compelled these individuals to free themselves from Islam's tyrannical grip, how did they do it, and at what cost? Why We Left Islam provides the shocking, disturbing answers.

 

The penalty for renouncing Islam is death, which makes the stories in Why We Left Islam -- and the lives behind them -- all the more remarkable.

 

Contained in these brutally honest personal accounts written by former Muslims is an urgent truth that the mainstream media and cowed politicians won't admit -- that far from being "a religion of peace," Islam is instead barbaric and repressive, a nightmare for those living under it and those seeking to confront it.

 

Here are some of the voices from Why We Left Islam...

 

"I still remember my sister's black eyes; she stared at the sky while she was dug into the ground. She was wrapped in white sheets and her hands were tied to her body. She was buried up to her waist. The rabid mob circled her with stones in their hands and started throwing them at her while the roars of 'Allah-u-Akbar' added to their frenzy..." -- Yagmur

 

"As a Muslimman, the fact that my mother had only given birth to three girls made him really angry. He beat my mother very badly and the doctors were forced to remove her womb...When she awoke, my father was kind enough to tell her that he was divorcing her now that she could no longer have children, and being a man he needed a son." -- Shara

 

"The Koran is full of verses that teach the killing of unbelievers and how Allah would torture them after they die. There are no lessons on morality, justice, honesty or love..." -- Ali

 

These shocking, real-life stories from those who have escaped the Muslim yoke make Why We Left Islam a powerful communique -- and a warning -- to the West.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Its Funny how all these people are only focusing on the extremist side of the religion. If people would pick up a history book then they would realize, especially Christians, that Christians did the same thing if not worse in the Spanish Inquisition. So don't judge a religion based on what you hear in the news and think your religion is perfect because it is not.

August 26, 2010
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@Raja01:  The reality is that it's all made up.  You believe in a lie.

August 26, 2010
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Here's the fundamental question before you can get me to convert to Islam:

Once we are all converted to your particular brnad of religion, will science still exist? Will we still pursue a space program? Or will we just be forced to sit down and sing koom-byah all at the same time like they did in Avetar?

 

Sounds fishy to me.

August 26, 2010
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I am surprised Mohammed discussed his "male member" in his holy book, especially in the context of a six-year-old girl.  Strange.  How was this guy different from David Koresh or Warren Jeffs?

August 26, 2010
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P54

 

     

40caliber818

 

"Islam is the truth. It teaches to worship God without giving him partners of any kind. The only sin that is never forgiven is praying to any besides God most high, who created the heavens, earth, sun, moon, stars, and trillions of other galaxies and planets and creatures in our solar system. Jesus is not God's son, nor is Jesus in God's image. God is light, and the most glorious. Whatever he intends he says to it be, and it is. Just as he made Adam from no man or woman, Jesus was made upon his command. And God make believers, and whoever he leads to the straight path, there is none who can avert it. And whoever God leads astray, there is none who can put them on the straight path."

 

How can you say Islam is the truth? Jesus said "I AM the TRUTH, way and life". Who is Jesus? And everything that is created is created BY HIM and for Him. He is the WORD, and the WORD was with God and the Word was God and the WORD became flesh. Jesus Christ is God the Father revealed in the flesh, as He said " if you have seen me you have seen the Father". He also said that before Abraham I AM. The eternal ONE, from everlasting to everlasting. Death could not hold him, and He rose from the death after He voluntarily gave up His life to die for our sins. Neither Islam nor Mohammad teaches that, and Mohammad was part of creation just like us. Hope I don't just waste my time as the Bible talks about not casting pearls before swine.

August 26, 2010
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GoodAtheist:I am surprised Mohammed discussed his "male member" in his holy book, especially in the context of a six-year-old girl.  Strange.  How was this guy different from David Koresh or Warren Jeffs?

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These  are in the Hadith, which describe the life and teachings of Mohammed. These are accepted books and followed by most Muslim everywhere. The Quran is rather a short book, the size of a paperback. But has more of the vitriolic teachings of Islam.

August 26, 2010
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I am getting tired of leaving comments trying to get people to not be ignorant spreaders of hate. Islam is not a false religion nor is it a religion of murder or hate. What is wrong with you people? You think that everything that is different must be evil. I am tired of it, people we are not clones. Diversity is the spice of life. I am entitled to my opinion and beliefs just as much as you are. Stop the hate and let others live the life they want to live. If Islam makes them happy then let them be Muslim.

August 26, 2010
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Another completely random quote from the Quran:

 

"Did We not expand for you, O Muhammad, your breast?  And We removed from you your burden Which had weighed upon your back And raised high for you your repute." 94:1 - 94:4

 

How convenient that the book Mohammad wrote says he is the chosen one.  That worked-out well for him, didn't it.  Not much enlightenment here.

August 26, 2010
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maryann767...As much as I dispise, dislike, and basically hate Islam, I will openly acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are nice people who want only to live a nice, peaceful life.

 

Unfortunately, their religion, if you believe it is a religion, sucks.

 

Islam was started because of a dysfunctional family's inheritance feud so it is rooted in distrust and hate. It was advanced by a cut throat psycopath who recognized that cutting off heads was pretty much the ultimate act of terror, so that became his modus operandi. His so called revealations were taken in part from the bible.

 

The Muslim claim to the Temple Mount is that it was the landing spot for Muhammad's night journey in which he claimed he rode on the back of winged horse, landed there and was instructed to build a mosque there.

 

Riiiiiight.

 

If you and the naive fools in this article want to promote this cult, go for it. But you are, as I said, naive fools. Incredibly, this religion is growing at an alarming rate, mostly in backwards, uneducated, third world countries. Soooo, jump on board if that is the level you funcion at.

August 26, 2010
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I am so surprised that there are so many atheists on this sight..Liberals I know lived here, but atheists..wow  Of course, misery loves confort and with only 4% of the world not believing in anything, you guys have to stick together.

In that case time is short for yons, but the Bible says that all knees will bow, and proclaim the name of the Lord..Kinda of scary when you realize that all the prophesies  of the Old Testament have come true...But it is between you and God, and has nothing to do with me...I hope you make it because this life was too short for me, and my family...Maybe this will help...remember when the City of Troy was just in a myth written Homer...Kinda shakes up your faith, and it is faith that there is no God...What a shock it is going to be...Sad too.

August 26, 2010
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They killed Jesus, didn't they?, does that make all Jewish population, Christian haters?, . Hitler was a Christian, does that make all Christians Nazis?.Why not smarten up to realize what politicians are doing as they usually do: To get us fighting each other to forget about the real issues: UNEMPLOYMENt, ECONOMY, WAR, etc, etc...

" FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO...",

Sounds familiar good CHRISTIANS????...read your bible again. Let love and forgive, WE ARE ALL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY,  JEWS, CHRISTIANS, BUDDHIST, ATHEEIST, MUSLIMS, Above all, WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD, LETS LOVE AND FORGIVE EACH OTHER, LETS LIVE, tell politicians to talk about the real issues instead of spreading the hate.

LETS READ QURAN AND BIBLE again, none of them spread hate

and killings, they are all about brotherhood and friendship of humans. REMEMBER, 1400 years ago, when all religions, including Christianity, did not give women any credit or rights, Mohammed, Gave women the right to inherit, be educated , loved and respected, indeed his own wife was a famous business woman, very powerful in the society they lived. In Christian ENGLAND women's inheritance was controlled by their husbands(MEN)til 19th century, PLEASE STUDY THE HISTORY BEFORE GIVING MUSLIM WOMEN ADVICE TO MOVE TO AFGANISTAN or other areas controlled by hardliners, REMEMBER, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD ANY MORE THAN HITLER REPRESENTED YOU.

I AM A JESUS LOVING MUSLIM.

GOD/ALLAH BLESS 

August 26, 2010
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@NaoOkami: You're tired of the hate against Islam?  You must be kidding us.  I bet not one of those exposing Islam harbored any hate for it ten years ago.  However, we've become wise to all the hatred infused across the world by Muslims against Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, other Muslims, all in the name of the Koran and Allah. 

 

People who protest Islam are people protesting AGAINST hate.

August 26, 2010
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CaspianSea99,

 

There is no compulsion in religion according to the Holy Quran , indeed the verses below from the Holy book is teaching us that nobody should be forced into a religion:

 

There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. (Qur'an 2:256)]

 

 

The Disbelievers Sourate 109

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

Say: O disbelievers!

O unbelievers!

 

I worship not that which ye worship,

I worship not that which ye worship;

I do not serve that which you serve,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

Nor worship ye that which I worship.

Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,

 

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:

To you be your Way, and to me mine.

Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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OSB

After reading all of these comments, I am saddened by how much ignorance and xenophobia is expressed within them.  Over time humans of all types of creeds and origins have carried out barbaric acts in the name of God, who is no doubt heartbroken to see his children at each other's throats.  Who are we to judge who is right and who is wrong when it comes to interpreting the will of God?  The central message in each interpretation is clear: love each other and be kind to each other. 

 

Every side of this argument can obviously present biased evidence of why the other side is evil and wrong, and it looks especially damaging when taken out of context.  There are wife-beaters and murderers all over this world, regardless of creed or race.

 

To anyone who would use their faith to justify xenophobia and violence I would say that they have missed the point, and are using portions of the Holy texts out of context to justify their own, vile objectives.

 

Peace

August 26, 2010
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Faith is belief given by others and belief is conditioning. A conditioning to live your life by which does not come from within but once you believe in on faith, you follow the conditioning mechanism of the belief system. I see post going back and forth from christians and muslims trying to prove the belief system of their own choice is the best including the blog which started the discussions.  What if you eat during day time, will you not reach to heaven?  Is god that cruel and foolish that he/she will be pleased from your stupid gesture? If you want to follow faith, follow eastern faith because eastern faiths are open to each family members including spouses freedong to choose faith and will not force food/clothes/life style on them. Please watch OSHO video discourse " Anybody Who Gives You a Belief System Is Your Enemy".

 

August 26, 2010
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Here are some nice passages for you all:

 

 

Torah:

 

That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.

 

That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general.

 

A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonored.

 

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348

 

The Bible:

 

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." –

 

Would you all agree that both Christians and Jews have moved quite a bit away from the practices these “holy books” endorse? If so, why can’t modern Muslims do the same? Remember, for many centuries, Muslim has been isolated from the modern world. In the last 50 years or so, they have been slowly being modernized. Their faith will also, IMHO, be modernized to some degree. The extremists, as in Christianity and Judaism, are fighting this as they always have done. These are the people who make the news, not the other billion or so who quietly live their lives.

August 26, 2010
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Maryann767..."Please quote everything when quoting from the Qu'ran...it helps if you see it in full context and not just a brief piece." Um, if you read the Qur'an you would know that most of it is just passage after passage of unrelated writings. It is like Muhammad just wrote whatever came to him at the moment. I have been admonished before about taking things out of context, and always it ends up requiring a long explaination to clarify what the passages are supposed to mean. So, it really just depends on who is interpreting the texts as to what meanings are devined, hence, Whahabism (sp?), the so called extremist version of Islam. Muslims need to sit back, take a deep breath, and decide if they want to join the 21st century or continue to try to live in the 14th century while blasting everyone else for not following them. Blasting, as in yelling at, arguing with, not literally blasting them - except in A LOT of cases...

August 26, 2010
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Why do you wear a hijab? It is not mandatory in The U.S.A. It is also not religious.

You are a foolish misguided woman!

August 26, 2010
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Hey, I have converted to Christianity from Muslim. Islam is a religion of fascists, whereas Jesus sends message of peace.

August 26, 2010
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Of course, the Muslims say they want to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth, and that keeps getting in the way of that loving faith that I keep hearing about.  Who is the father of the Jewish nation?  Who is the father of the Arab nations?  Abraham...yes that Abraham...So we have a family feud, and we know how that goes..It has been going on for thousands of years with no end in sight...God only knows. It is brother fighting brother...

August 26, 2010
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Mercy19

CaspianSea99,

There is no compulsion in religion according to the Holy Quran ,

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Let me quote from the Hadiths (the life and teachings of Mohammed) that are followed by Moslems. And is practiced in nations like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc, where apostasy is punished by death!

 

Muslim 623 The Prophet said: "It is not permissible to take the life of a Muslim except in one of the three cases: the married adulterer, a life for a life (if the person is Muslim), and the deserter of Islam."

 

Bukhari 9:89:271 A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism Mu'adh said: "I will not sit down unless you kill him as it is the verdict of Allah and His Apostle"

 

Bukhari 4:52:260 Ali burnt some people (Zanadiqa, atheists 9:84:57) although the Prophet had said, "Don?t punish anybody with Allah's punishment (Fire)" if a Muslim discards his religion, kill him"

 

Need more?

 

August 26, 2010
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Muslims descended from Ismael in the Bible and the Jews descended from Issac. They are half-brothers with Abraham, being their father.God made this two groups of people.What God has made, let no man destroy.His wrath will come down on you like fire.

August 26, 2010
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Religion is like a cancer. It can erupt without warning while killing you slowly from the inside.

August 26, 2010
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Totally off topic but: Awesome, Katie! You have an ekkie too! :)

August 26, 2010
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The woman is wearing a makeup. I thought it's a big no-no in an islamic religion.

August 26, 2010
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I am neither religious nor atheist, but I love these quotes....

 

“Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"”

 

      “I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.”

 

“All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.”

 

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

August 26, 2010
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^^ meant for Maebelle ... I'm not the only Muslim with an Ekkie!

August 26, 2010
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Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98 On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161 Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191 Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39 Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216 (different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you. ..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43 If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8 You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71 Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74 Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76 But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89 Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14 O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54 Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

August 26, 2010
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From "The Cow," Allah is encircling the unbelievers from all sides. The lightning terrifies them as if it was going to snatch away their eyesight; whenever it flashes they walk on; when it becomes dark, they stand still. And if Allah wanted He could have totally taken away their hearing and their sight; for Allah has power over everything.

 

Someone's gotta switch to decaf.

August 26, 2010
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liedetector--

 

I am reading the Qu'ran and as i stated if you just take one little piece out it does look bad, but if you read the verses before and after you will understand.

 

I do not believe that I am trying to convert anyone to Islam.  It states in the Qu'ran not to do that.  What I am doing is trying to get people to understand that not all Muslims are bad people. 

 

Not all Muslims are terrorists, just like not all christians are terrorists.  In both religions though there ARE terrorists, that I do agree with. :)

August 26, 2010
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In a never ending battle between good and evil, why wouldn't the greatest criminal of all time cloak himself in a "religion" that appears to be like the good guys. God vs Satan has been an ongoing war since before we were here. So if its a battle for souls why not approach the war with a tact that makes the oppressed and indignant and uneducated succumb to the "peaceful" teachings of Muhammad. Then get them all to die for their cause and reap the souls in hell. Muhammad promises you to have sex (virgins) and all the "worldly" possessions in his heaven/hell. God lets us have sex for procreation not for reward. God doesn't teach hate and conversion and virgins and to pray 5 times a day. God wants us to love one another, and be respectful of his creations. God will take his souls as they pass thru this life as a loving, respectful beacon for him. You can live a life of love and respect and become an angel for God, or convert non-believers, kill and mame for Allah and get virgins in "heaven". I choose to be an angel.

August 26, 2010
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alfonds

Muslims descended from Ismael in the Bible and the Jews descended from Issac

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Are you sure that Muslims descended from Ismael?

 

There were millions of people living in Arabia when Ismael was born!

 

Ismael was just one of the many who lived in the land. Not all Arabs descended from Ismael! That is a false myth invented by Islamists to gain credence for their religion and that Arab Muslims are half brothers of Jews. Facts don't support that !!!

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Islam: how the Saudi Arabians we able to control 1/5 of the world.  Europe tomorrow, America the day after.

 

The name of the religion means "submission".  I guess they were honest about that.

August 26, 2010
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WHOEVER SAYING ISLAM IS DEVIL RELIGION, FIRST ASK YOURSELF WHO IS DEVIL.

 

- BIN LADEN WAS AMERICAS FRIENDS B4 SEP 11.

- BUSH LIED SEVERAL TIMES B4 GOING TO IRAQ BUT STILL HE IS YOUR BEST PRESIDENT.

- ISLAM NEVER ATTACK AMERICA, YOUR FRIEND BIN LADEN DID. AND I BELIEVE, AMERICA WAS BEHIND SEP 11 TO DO WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING NOW.

- THERE ARE 1.7 BILLLON MUSLIM, IF THEY ALL ARE TERRORIST, YOU ALL WOULD GONE TO HELL ALREADY.

- FIRST WORLD OF QURAN IS "IQRA" MEANS READ. I WOULD REQUEST TO READ FIRST. DON'T BE ACT LIKE STUPID.

- GROUN ZERO MOSQUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEP 11. IF YOU ARE MIXING UP THAT WITH SEP 11, WE ALL ARE HEADING TOWARDS END OF THE EARTH. YOU WILL KILL ME AND VISE VERSA.

 

I WOULD REQUEST EVERYONE GO TO ONLINE AND TYPE WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM B4 YOUR WRITE SOMETHING STUPID.

August 26, 2010
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who cares another white female that cannot get a date trying to be different

August 26, 2010
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I will say this for Islam: I have known some Muslims through school, association and simply in passing. Not once has a Muslim treated me with any disrespect. I can't say the same for Christians and I have been one.

August 26, 2010
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Good vs evil...You get to decide based on today and tomorrow..forget the past..who is doing the good and who is doing the evil...Now don't tell me you can't decide.  WOW

Just like the polls when they see the 10% undecided..No wonder the planet is so messed up. Who is in charge of this planet...Jesus???...not yet, but poised to return. Hurry it is not too late to save yourself...Thy Kingdom come, thy wil be done on earth as it is in Heaven...Prophetic...Yes So hurry..

August 26, 2010
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Ya'll are hilarious. Especially Tracy

August 26, 2010
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MargaretG--

I agree with you.  I have actually gone to a Christian college and have converted to Islam.  I have found every Muslim I have come in contact with has been very polite and courteous. 

 

I am tired of people saying that all Muslim women are oppressed.  We are NOT!  My husband insists on me learning and being myself.  I am the same person I was before converting besides being Muslim now.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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mleader

WHOEVER SAYING ISLAM IS DEVIL RELIGION, FIRST ASK YOURSELF WHO IS DEVIL.

- BIN LADEN WAS AMERICAS FRIENDS B4 SEP 11.

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Let me answer this ignorant crap of yours.

 

Bin laden hated America with the same hate that he has today, while the US supported Mujihadeen later known as Northern Alliance in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Bin Laden was not a part of the Mujihadeen and US never provided any support for Bin laden. He received support from his family in Saudi Arabia.

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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If the US has to have Muslims, I'd rather they be Americans.  What will be our downfall are the Muslim immigrants.  Let's see, no rights for women, polygamy, arranged marriages and honor killings.  Who are the idiots who should be guarding our borders?!  Importing Islam in the US is making the west go backwards.  If anyone deserves access into the US, it's muslim women.  Leave the men in the middle east!

August 26, 2010
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Wyatt, hate to break it to you brotha, Jesus died. He did not rise. He will not be back. Life goes on.

August 26, 2010
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Maybe she should complete her transformation and immigrate to a Muslim country. She would REALLY be fulfilled then.

August 26, 2010
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Stop defending and talking about muslims people. Getting on my nerves. You are starting to show your hate for every other religion, and it is driving me bananas. Stop it while your ahead. Muslims are the anti christ.

August 26, 2010
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@maryann767: you converted because you are a weak person.  You find fulfillment in taking your directives from Mecca.  Finally, someone/something to tell you what to do.

 

Saudi Arabia provides (and manipulates) the world with two toxins: oil and Islam.

August 26, 2010
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Wake up America before it is too late! The plan of Saudi Arabia is to spread Islam through out the world. They finance the building of mosques every where.  They see their plan to materialize. Wake up America. Learn from History before it is too late. Just look what happened to all Christians in every country in the middle east. WE do not get a lesson? We pay for it.

August 26, 2010
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GoodAtheist --> The story behind the verse you mentioned is to protect a woman against false hood and rumor. Some people start spreading rumor that an innocent lady did some wrong things.  There was no CCTV in those days (1400 years back!!) so human witnesses was the alternative way to judge any crime/allegation. But as there is always a chance that a person can come up with false story and alleged someone so the verses challenged them to come up with minimum four people (considering the graveness of the allegation) as witness. So the reason is simple -> it is impossible to make a consistent lie when multiple persons are involved in manufacturing it.

If you are enthusiastic then you can easily find the name of the lady!!

 

August 26, 2010
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Telling these women to go move to an "Islamic hellhole" if they want to be Muslim is like telling all Christians to move to Colorado City if they want to be Christian. Get a grip, people. Islam, like any other religion, has its fanatics and its peacefuls, and guess what? These women, along with the millions upon millions of others all across the world (yes, that includes native-born Americans and Europeans too), qualify as peaceful Muslims.

 

A lot of people seem to be thrown when women convert to Islam because they assume that Islam treats women as subhuman. Well, guess what? So does Christianity. So does Judaism. So does Hinduism. So does Buddhism. (Actually in Buddhism women are even spiritually inferior.) I do not know of any religion, at least not any which survived the Abrahamic faiths’ cultural purges to any great extent, which practices or preaches gender equality. So when you eliminate that factor, Islam is pretty much just another religion to look into for any woman who is searching for ‘grounding’ or ‘purpose’ in her life. (Why people are still choosing religion to fulfill this goal at all is a mystery to me, but I’m trying really hard not to judge.) 

 

August 26, 2010
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Unbelievable,this woman is either mentally ill or a traitor to her own kind.in either case I cannot believe that she would be given any chance to spread her illness.

August 26, 2010
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Finksterly

Wyatt, hate to break it to you brotha, Jesus died. He did not rise. He will not be back. Life goes on

 

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Its the other way around, my friend.

 

Mohammed died and is buried where he remains today.

 

 

Jesus died and rose again, and those who believe in Him will have eternal life !!!

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Religion is not the problem. It's the dumb a55es practicing these religions.

August 26, 2010
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CaspianSea99

 

You are citing from Hadiths written by the prophet Mohammed ( peace be upon him ) companions not directly from the Quran . Even though Hadiths are very important in Islam, they are written by humans and humans have that tendency to interpret messages according to their understanding thats why the bible have so many contradictions because it was written by the disciples of Jesus ( Peace be upon Him ) such as Peter, Matthew who changed his true original message , the message of Christians , jews , muslims patriarch Abraham which is One God and reinforced by the first commandement :

'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

 

Therefore One must be cautious when not quoting from UNVERIFIED hadith and rely on the Holy Quran for guidance.

 

May God the Merciful put US in the right path ...

August 26, 2010
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@CaspianSea99

 

WHAT ABOUT MY 2ND PARA

 

- BUSH LIED SEVERAL TIMES IN ORDER TO GO TO IRAQ.

 

AMERICAN TAX PAYER (YOU AND ME), WE BOTH KILEED MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY REASON. WE RAPED AND KILLED IRAQI WOMENS AND KILLED THOUSANDS OF KIDS.

 

STILL WE ARE KILLING.

 

ASK YOURSELFS WHO IS EVIL.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Jesus and Mohammed would be ashamed and embarrassed by what people do in their names.

August 26, 2010
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Islam does not have fanatics True Islam is fanatic. It teaches that one MUST enslave the infidel. It is a fascist religion. This woman has been brainwashed. Unfortunatley there are many ignorant useful idiots in the west.

August 26, 2010
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@Mercy19:

"May God the Merciful put US in the right path ..."

 

Yes, toward Saudi Arabia, in your opinion. 

 

Let's let the Saudi Royal Family be the kings of the world.   Surrender your freedom, America, and peace be upon you!  (Just in case you don't "submit", we'll send a few of our misguided to blow up some of y'all...you'll get into line).

August 26, 2010
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My religion is better than your religion, nah nah nah nana nah....

August 26, 2010
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@mleader

You lie.  It was Muslims who did almost all the killing and raping in Iraq.  If the US hadn't intervened, it would have been much, much worse.

 

Typical of an Islamist, you project your failures onto the US.  Guess what: the ways of the Koran (and its followers) are faulty.  It's not perfect after all.

August 26, 2010
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promixuous--I converted become I'm a very strong person who researches something.  I did a lot of research and reading BEFORE i converted to Islam.  I am far from a weak person.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Peaceful Moslems?  Yes! there are good Moslems. But once the Imam is preaching to the masses against the infidels (that means us) through the loud speakers, then come and tell me how good their religion is.  History says it all.

August 26, 2010
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religion is fake, created by man to explain his existence in primitive times.  Unfortunately for us smart people religion has persisted into the modern day and is the root of most problems in the world.  wake up people

August 26, 2010
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Very unfortunate decision, the materialistic Christianity distance people away from God and into cults like this. I am sure this lady has no idea what the true Islam is...

August 26, 2010
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Mercy19

CaspianSea99

You are citing from Hadiths written by the prophet Mohammed ( peace be upon him ) companions not directly from the Quran . Even though Hadiths are very important in Islam, they are written by humans and humans have that tendency to interpret messages according to their understanding

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I can only feel sorry for you. May God open your heart and mind to His truth.

 

The Quran is written by a human being just as the Hadiths are.

 

There are so many mistakes in the Quran, that you will see if you are willing to open your mind.

 

Quran claims that the Sun sets in the murky waters.

 

Quran claims that the first man (adam) was created by:

- water

- dirt

- congealed blood (where did the blood come from)

- earth

- semen (where did the semen come from)

- clay

- and more

 

It is full of contradictions. And as you read the Quran from the beginning, you will notice that Mohammad raises his vitriolic against Jews and Christians as he goes into later chapters, when he sees that the Jews and Christians fail to recognize him as a prophet.

 

Again, may the truth set you free, as Jesus said! Only God can open your eyes!!!

 

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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@PROMIXCUOUS

 

WHY YOU WENT TO IRAQ? TO GET THE OIL? YOU ARE THE EVIL. LOOK INTO THE MIRROR PLEASE YOU EVIL.

August 26, 2010
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"Why I converted to Islam" thats easy to see.  She was foolish and made a poor choice without understanding the true nature of Islam.

August 26, 2010
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Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West, especially among college educated religion. American Muslims of Anglo descent are everywhere and love their country and their religion. You must accept this fact. They are educated and making decisions based on logic and not being forced by anyone.

August 26, 2010
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@MLEADER

if you beleive what you wrote I have a few bridges I would like to sell you. You are obviously very disturbed. You can count in a few fingers the amount of rapes that occured by american forces. They went there after Sadam the Islamic hitler. He murdered 500k kurds in mass graves. He was a brutal dictator like Muhamad. America has spent trillions from Kosevo, Afganistan to free muslims from their murderous leaders. However, I personally disagree with this strategy. I believe that Muslims should be allowed to do what they do best kill each other. I would also not allow immigration from those countries and let them enjoy their chose aamoung the 57 islamic countries.

August 26, 2010
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Actually, Khaelis, religion is quite real. This entire forum proves that...

August 26, 2010
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@Tracy99: Islam spread by sword. That is a historic fact. Do you know most of middle east was Christian and Jewish before Islam started and when Islamic armies defeated other countries and controlled,occupied all of middle east only after that people there converted. So you are telling me Islam had better philosophy than Judaism and Christianity and people just converted without any coercion or force. Give me a break!

 

The fact is that Christianity and probably other religions also spread at times by force. And Islam to Indonesia, Malaysia etc did not spread by force. But most of the places such as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, middle-east etc it spread by naked force. That is a historic fact.

 

Again I think Islam -just like any other major religion of the world -has a peaceful message. The problem is that moderate Muslim (i think you may be one of them) think that terrorism is justified because Jews are occupying Jerusalem by force. This is total bull.

 

Unless all the world (and especially moderate Muslims) are willing to confront terrorists head-on this problem of terrorism is not going to stop. We are already paying a high price in terms of reduced economic activity, more expense of security, ethnic tension, wars etc.

 

Only other way is US and other western countries unite and fight this menace vigorously.

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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just lots of people trying to save their skins imo

August 26, 2010
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What i find very funny on here is that there are plenty of christians saying how wrong Muslims are and attacking those who have converted, but how many Muslims are actually stating that you are wrong.  We are simply defending ourselves stating that noone has a right to say that all muslims are terrorists???  why is this?  Why are we being attacked because of our beliefs? 

August 26, 2010
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There is no god, just humans' desire to not take the blame for their own actions.  But, each to his/her own.  Just leave me out of it.

August 26, 2010
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mleader: typical muslim tactic; point the finger at someone else while pulling the trigger with another. Greatly exaggerate what you see as wrongdoing by others when you, yourself, know that what YOU are doing is DEAD wrong. This thread is about someone who made her religio0us life an international subject for opinion, NOT about the PLO, the first hijacking, the '72 Olympics,the public stoning of women, corporal punishment,killing Christian missionaries, Jews forbidden on muslim soil, the destruction of all Buddhist shrines, or the murder on nuns.

August 26, 2010
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For Christ's sake mleader, turn off the caps lock.

August 26, 2010
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@maryann767, yes, you did a lot of research, and found that if you do what the Saudi Arabians laid out for you, you won't have to question anything in life.  Everything is part of a holistic system.  Anything that goes awry can be blamed on non-Muslims, because, after all, the Koran is infallible so its failures must be others' fault.

 

Why do you think Saudi Arabia is a madly oppressive country?  Why do you think a country who claims its constitution is the Koran lets no one have a say in its governance and is ruled by a corrupt "royal" family?

 

Maybe you've some more to research.

August 26, 2010
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**meant to say "college educated women" in my post above.

August 26, 2010
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@MLEADER No, I don't want your toxic oil which pollutes our earth and funds "submission".

August 26, 2010
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Perhaps the whole of this article should have said nothing more than, "because I am an American, and it is my right."

August 26, 2010
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I respect her, good for you. And good job too CNN's iKate for giving her recognition.

August 26, 2010
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To OSB -

Whatever faggot.

Suck on my first amendment right to call you a faggot! Take your Political Correctness with you back to Mohammedjihad land. We are ready to kick some Muslim ass, and use you for bait.

August 26, 2010
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maryann767

What i find very funny on here is that there are plenty of christians saying how wrong Muslims are and attacking those who have converted, but how many Muslims are actually stating that you are wrong.  We are simply defending ourselves stating that noone has a right to say that all muslims are terrorists???  why is this?  Why are we being attacked because of our beliefs?

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It is not too hard to see where you are getting your victim mentality.

 

No one is attacking you or any muslim here. We wouldn't even be discussing this if this article wasn't posted here, where muslim faith is exalted over others, would we?

 

We are just pointing out that historically muslims have attacked jews and christians because of their faith. And that the quran/hadith teaches this.

 

Look at the news everyday and who is attacking who. The ratio is probably 99 to 1 where muslims terrorists are attacking other non-moslems around the world.

 

And where are they getting this hatred from. The quran and the hadiths, which I have read.

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Violence is the only internal political agenda in the muslim world. Without centuries of civil war, muslim countries would have to face problems like health care, education, state-sanctioned domestic violence, theocracy, and hot running water. Take away jihad, and there is no one else to blame, and the muslim world would have to look to itself for solutions. This woman decided to make her personal choice a very public matter. Now, in the wake of her decision, are only what she must see as infidels.

August 26, 2010
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I can never understand why a person would change his or her faith. Not believing in God is understandable. But not believing in one God and believing in another is incomprehensible. Nobody alive has seen God. All we know is what we read and what we are told. So why this hatred and hostility towards other faiths? Why convert to another faith? Every religion tells the followers to be good, to believe in God and to do good. If you say that a particular religion is better than the religion you are born into, it means only one thing: you don't know enough about your religion. And I am pretty sure if miracles are real, they can happen to you no matter what religion you belong to.

All those idiots who tell you that you will face God's wrath or whatever it is if you don't pray to a particular God, they are just lying for reasons ranging from it being their livelihood to psychological issues. So quit fighting over religion and try to be good human beings.

August 26, 2010
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"Religion is the opiate of the masses."  (Karl Marx)

It doesn't matter who said it, it still applies.

August 26, 2010
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@Wasabiwahabi:

"Without centuries of civil war, muslim countries would have to face problems like health care, education, state-sanctioned domestic violence, theocracy, and hot running water."

 

Without an external enemy, Muslims would have to realize something is internally wrong.  However, they believe that the Koran is perfect, so if they live by it and there are problems, it presents a terrifyingly disorienting moral contradiction.

 

Islam needs enemies...a "House of War"...to cover for its fallacies and fallibilities.

August 26, 2010

If muhammad the false prophet was alive today and was caught pumping a 9 yr old girl hed be locked up in the slammer and getting it up the tail pipe by his newly aquatinted boyfriends. I honestly cant believe that billions of people are so blind to realize that muhammad was and is a pedophile. It just shows how ignorant people are of the truth, that they will follow anything even an evil child molesting murderer. READ THE QURAN AND THE HADITHS IF YOU DONT BELIEVE  ME BECAUSE I HAVE!!!

August 26, 2010
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"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

 

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

 

"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:24)

 

Those who claim to be experts in Islam after learning some buzz words from Fox news, read the bible first. Don't rely on the child molesting priests to tell you what's in the bible, read it yourself.

August 26, 2010
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To all you evil cult following morons that are defending islam by typing paragraphs of nonsense. NO ONE IS READING!! Anyone is with half a brain and at least a shread of decency would not follow a cult whose founder molested children, murdered people and treated women with such disrespect. I can tell you people if ONE MORE ATTACK happens in the USA by muslims you better get out of our country quick because you wont like what will happen next. The backlash will be ugly.

August 26, 2010
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Caspiansea99

 

 

The bible has been revised more that 250.000 times and even after the council of NICEA met and deleted some part of it we still have contradiction in it :

In the Bible Genesis it says in day 3 there was light and God saw the light was good.

Science show us that light can be explained by the rotation of the earth around the sun, so how can light be if the earth wasn’t completely formed ?

There are many copies of the bible with so many contradictions in them due to human interference.

Unlike the bible that was written by humans  the Quran is a message from God and was revealed in a  unique way : the Quran was revealed from the Angel  Gabriel to Mohamed who wasn’t literate and who memorized those sourate each time they were descended upon him by the Angel Gabriel, he would memorize it then when he go to his people he will recite it exactly how it was revealed and scribes would write it down , that’s why the Quran didn’t change over centuries , the Quran of the 6th century is identical to the Quran today point by point without even a comma change.

The Quran describes the phases of the embryo in the mother wound , such knowledge couldn’t be detained by an illiterate man of he 6 th century , the Quran describes the different galaxies in our solar systems and so on , things that has only been just discovered until recently .

The Quran has a mathematical proof and coding and every verse and sourate is a multiple of 19 .

Furthermore Islam did promote equality between men and in his last sermon the prophet Mohamed (pbub) tell us that no race was better than another race or color and that the best man is the one who follow Gods commands.

Christianity did not object to slavery. Politically or economically, it did not encourage the believers to oppose the traditions of their generations as regards slavery. Christianity did not even discuss the problem and said nothing against the rights of slave owners. It did not urge slaves to demand their freedom and did not basically ask to free the slaves."

In the Grand Larouse of 19th century one reads: "Man does not wonder at the presence of slavery and its being common among the Christians till now. The religious representatives approve it and believe that it is legal. In brief Christianity approves it completely till our time and it is very hard to prove that Christianity tried to abolish slavery."

 

It is no wonder that Christians continued to practice slavery until very recently.

The Bible, unlike the Holy Quran, widely promoted the institution of Slavery; Muslims cannot believe that God could have inspired the following on the issue of slavery found in the Bible:

"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed." (Timothy I 6:1)

"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you." (Leviticus 25:44)

"If a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave, betrothed to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, an inquiry shall be held. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free" (Leviticus 19:20)

"When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money." (Exodus 21:20-21)

And the Lord said, "When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if its answer to you is peace and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labour for you and shall serve you..."

(Deuteronomy 20:10-11)

"And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant" (Genesis 9:26)

"So the Canaanites have dwelt in the midst of Ephraim to this day, but become slaves to do forced labour." (Josh 16:10)

"And all the people that were left of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, which were not the children of Israel; their children that were left after them in the land, whom the children of Israel also were not able utterly to destroy, upon those did Solomon levy a tribute of bondservice unto this day."(I Kings 9:20-21)

"but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him." (Exodus 12:44)

"When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing." (Exodus 21:2)

 

August 26, 2010
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St. Paul asked the slaves to obey their masters as they obey Jesus Christ. In his message to the people of Ephsus St.. Paul said "O slave! Obey your masters in body with fear and trembling in your hearts as you do for Christ, not deceiving the eye as those who please people, but as slaves of Christ working God's will, serving with good intention as for God, not for people, knowing that whatever good you do, it will be accepted by God weather you were free or slave."

St. Peter made a similar recommendation and ordered priests to adhere to it, because slavery is a redemption of human errors, offered by men for the wrath of the greatest Lord.

St. Thomas Aquinas added the philosophical view to the view of religious leaders and did not object to slavery, but praised it, because he, like his teacher Aristotle, believed that slavery was natural case and some people are originally born to be slaves. Also he believed slavery did not contradict the faith and humans should be satisfied with their lowly lot.

Perhaps the above verses in the Bible were the thoughts of men as the Bible itself claims:

"How can you say we are wise and the law of the Lord is with us behold, the false pen of the scribes turned it into a lie." (Jer 8:8)

"And the burden of the Lord shall you mention no more...For you have perverted the words of the living God" (Jer 23:36)

"Behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach, they have no delight in it..From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, everyone is given to covetousness, and from the prophet even unto the priest, everyone deals falsely." (Jer 6:10)

"The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not neither have I commanded them, neither spoke unto them." (Jer 14:14)

"They use their tongues and say, 'He says' " (Jer 23:31)

Many years after Jesus left the earth, Paul says about the Old Testament and the New Testament:

"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." (1 Corin 13:9)

The good news to mankind is that God has revealed The Holy Quran, a perfect Revelation and a Mercy for mankind.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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ProphetOfDoom.net

August 26, 2010
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Why is it we never see any stories about the thousands of Muslims who convert to Christianity?  Oh wait, those people run the risk of being slaughtered as blasphemers if they are discovered.  Anyone still remember Rifqa Bary, who STILL fears for her life?  From her own family? 

 

And before someone says it, I KNOW it isn't all Muslims.  But I see more atrocities coming out of Muslim communities than other communities.  Some of you folks should tak to the Sri Lankan maid who's Saudi "master" drove 24 hot nails into her body as punishment for not working hard enough. 

 

And let's not even START the discussion about the current Saudi slave trade in Africa.  Much better to complain about the 200 year past slave trade in America.

 

Changing the subject to wrongs committed by others does not absolve Islam from the atrocities committed in it's name.

August 26, 2010
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Say whatever you want about Islam, the bottom line is there are more than 100 million muslims out there that believe the so-called "radical" view of it.  It does not promote freedom or equality or human rights or woman rights.  It is the ONLY major religion that has not progressed tos erve all mankind in a humane way.  Every religion has skeletons in ther closet, but all of them except Islam have come around to promote nothing but love, kindness, and humanity.  Islam does not, or at least is not interpretted that way by roughly 100 million.  Their interpretation would have the western way of life destroyed, all Jews rounded up for another holocaust and everyone else FORCED into sharia law.

 

Wake up people.  They are at war with us.  Stop appeasing them.  Time for a new amendment:  freedom of religion... except Islam...

BAN IT!

August 26, 2010
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uhcl

 

Those who claim to be experts in Islam after learning some buzz words from Fox news, read the bible first. Don't rely on the child molesting priests to tell you what's in the bible, read it yourself.

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I quoted the Hadiths again and again to show how Mohammed who was 57 had a relationship with Aisha who was just 9 years old. That is pedophilia !!!

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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@864357: Pro-Islam conversion stories are posted on CNN because (a) CNN broadcasts to many Muslim countries and doesn't want to offend said audiences (b) Oil-rich Saudis make for great sponsors.

August 26, 2010
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In Muhammed's defense, Aisha looked 14.

August 26, 2010
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Sorry that was bad.

August 26, 2010
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I'm not sure who is more foolish, Tracey99 or ruthie666.  I'll dismiss ruthie666 as a Marxist atheist and move on.  Tracey99 however is either ignorant or a liar.  Muhammad started as a common thief and murderer who robbed caravans.  As he gained power and claimed divine inspiration he continued to enrich himself through theft.

 

Muhammad and his followers then spend the following years building a small empire by conquering neighboring towns and forcing conversion.  They also imposed taxes on non-muslims which still in muslim countries today!

August 26, 2010
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"There is SALVATION in no one else; for there is no other name (JESUS) under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.

August 26, 2010
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Always comical to see the atheists on here with their gibberish about how those who believe in God or a religion is non-sensical.  Those who are religious believe there is a God (supreme being) who created science and hence, everything.  Those who are atheists believe science just magically appeared without divine design.  Either way you look at it, it is a matter of faith.  Religious have faith that God is the supreme and created all, atheists have faith they are the supreme and science and everything just mysteriously without explanation happened.  Exactly who believes in non-sense?

August 26, 2010
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I as a Muslim think it’s really wrong that people don’t learn about Islam by themselves but they listen to the media or people that do not know much about Islam or represent the Muslims. Peace for everyone  

August 26, 2010
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I don't think anyone in San Francisco is going to convert to Islam.

August 26, 2010
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How can someone believe in a religion created by a man who raped a 6-year old slave girl.

August 26, 2010
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Tracy99-

 

You have got to be THE most ignorant person, whose comments, I have read. First of all, your posts are VERY hateful. For someone backing the Islam, you make yourself to be a BAD example of the religion. Second thing, your grammar is absolutely horrible for being someone that teaches an IT class. Third thing, preaching about your wealth is frowned upon in Quran (but I'm sure you knew). Which leads me to wonder why you're taking a BUS to the Empire State building rather than a Limo or a Taxi (??)

 

All in all, I've concluded that you defend Islam because this is the religion that you presume to practice? For someone that practices Islam, you really are uneducated on how to conduct yourself as "Follower of Islam" and history of it's entirety. I believe you might just be under-educated in general, really.

 

I'm not going to take the time to point out each and every ignorant post that you've made, that would take me all night. However, I will reflect upon one post that you HAVE made that is a little disturbing:

 

"Tracy99: One dumb guy said that Jesus said that he is the son of God and he dies for our sins. Show one line in Bible where it says. He never said that and it states in the Quran THAT HE CAN NOT SAY SOMETHING WHAT HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY."

 

Here, I'll show you "One line": For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that who shall ever believeth in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. -John 3:16

 

He DID say that, "I" am saying that, too. I do NOT follow the Quran, therefore, "I" can say whatever I want. Before you repost, remember this, no matter what ignorance, unintelligence and hate you might want to get across, no matter what, God still loves you anyways, as much as you don't like it.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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in Islam law non Muslims does not have any rights and must pay tax because they are not Muslims.

Christians are not allowed in important jobs. or role over Muslims. they are being nice in the U.S because of the law. if you want to see the truth go to any of the middle east countries.

 

I want to remind they this lady that your husband is allowed to marry 4 women at the same time, also you don't have the same rights as a man.he have the right to divorce you with one word. and if you want to convert from Islam they have the right to kill you. this according to the Sharia.

August 26, 2010
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I don't care about Islam, I'm tired of hearing of it. Oh, apostates or disillusioned ex-Muslims are subject to being executed by other Muslims.

August 26, 2010
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Mercy19

Many years after Jesus left the earth, Paul says about the Old Testament and the New Testament:

"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." (1 Corin 13:9)

 

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That verse actually goes against your argument.

 

Paul is saying that when the perfect has come (Jesus), that which is part (prophecy) will cease. Jesus has come and prophecy has ceased since then.

 

Remember that Mohammed tried to kill himself in the beginning thinking that he received his prophecies from Shaitan (Satan).

 

 

 

 

August 26, 2010
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If she knew Jesus she will never convert to any other religion.

 

She is trying to get popular maybe.

 

God bless America

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Maebelle, the woman who converted said " "Some people have been questioning -- after my posts on CNN iReport -- my nation of origin," she explained on video. "To me, it doesn't really make a difference," "

 

And this shows the BIGGEST difference between Muslims and non-muslims. Ask a non-muslim who they are they will almost always respond with their country, profession, marital status, etc. before they mention their religion. Ask a muslim, and religion almost always comes first. To most muslims, religion is more important than country, family, etc.

 

Many muslim countries are or are near theocracies, which is unheard of in other religions anymore. Western and Eastern (Japan, Korea, China, etc.) countries have advanced beyond theocracies, but the middle east and most muslim countries are stuck about 4-500 years behind the rest of the world in social development.

August 26, 2010
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If people want to convert, more power to you. But why in the past few weeks have we had Islam and Muslims shoved up our @$$'s. Sick of hearing about it on a constant basis, if this makes me "racist" or any other label that can be placed upon me then so be it. Do your thing, go away so news can be reported without having this rammed down our throats.

August 26, 2010
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And I care ... WHY?? Oh, wait, I dont... to each their own as long as they keep it to themselves, dont try to push it on me, and dont go spouting it where I have to hear it.. cause believe me, I will take the devils advocate in a real quick hurry if I have to listen to it... and I will do it while lighting up my Marlboro's with my hand within reach of my guns...

August 26, 2010
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North American women who convert to Islam are fools. If they love Islam so much why don't they try being a woman in a country where the Government is Islamic.

 

Then let's see how they love Islam.

 

Have you heard of the term "useful idiot"?

 

Fits you perfectly.

 

 

August 26, 2010
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Is this Tracy99 just typing random phrases and expecting them to make sense?

August 26, 2010
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God Bless the girl that converted and I would like to encourage her and give her my regards. I have met so many people in the US and the only reason they are here is because of jobs and money. The US used to be a smart country but with all those dumbasses, no wonder all the physicians and business people in this country werent raised here. You are a jewel among garbage, and you are the clean among filthy, and you are the smart and awake among dum and stoned. This country was built on immigrants who work hard and not those lazy people who only know how to spread hate and smoke joints. Allah akbar and may allah bless us all .

August 26, 2010
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I'm sorry, but I found a bigger fool in Mercy19.  First, the Earth doesn't rotate around the Sun.  The Earth rotates on an axis and revolves around the Sun.  Either way, science tells us nothing about light being created by the earth doing this around the Sun.  The Earth could disappear tomorrow and the Sun would shine and light would spread through the Solar System.  On this alone we should banish you from further posts.

 

As to your bizzare claims about the accuracy of the Bible vs. the Quran, you really have gotten it a bit wrong there. You forget that the old Testament was maintained by Jews for thousands of years, being replicated by thoughtful hand and tradition.  While the New Testament can't make this exact claim, portions of both were found in the Dead Seas scrolls and indeed they matched what we have today (translations excluded). You have no such comparison for the Quran.

 

Finally, if you want to start throwing some verses around, how about these:

 

Sura 4:24 And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands as prisoners of war ---I guess that this is not slavery

 

Sura 4:3  And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession.

 

4:34  If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them of the teaching of God, then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great

 

I could go on forever, but never for a moment think that the Quran promotes peace, love equality or justice.

August 26, 2010
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Her heritage goes to those who have wrote the deceleration of Independence.

August 26, 2010
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Jennifer22:

 

I am confused! If Jesus loves all, why do we see all these hateful messages against Muslim from loving Christians? I guess the guy who attacked the NY cab driver was expressing his christian love!

August 26, 2010
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@mak2000: speaking of physicians, interesting how many Muslim Arabs come to the US for surgery (i.e. the Cleveland Clinic), rather than staying in their home countries.

August 26, 2010
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@ Eagle1960, Jesus is merciful, not me.

August 26, 2010
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hey does anyone know the history behind the "scarfs" the catholoic nuns wear??? i believe they copied it from the muslim women. jsut some food for thought since everyone keeps hating on the hijab.

August 27, 2010
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nuns hats are gay too. There is your answer Farahs75

August 27, 2010
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i think the media should interview the nuns just to see there perspective on such matters, i mean i dont i have ever seen a catholic nun on lary king, that would be some show.

August 27, 2010
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i don't think

August 27, 2010
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I always see this crapy news "Why I converted to Islam", but why the media never publishes "Why I left Islam". I am from Pakistan and have quit this evil and violent idealogy by a mentally deranged, pyschopath, pedophile arab

August 27, 2010
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@promixcuous what you just said illustrates what I said, I have great respect for the american system and those few people that wrote the constitution. This led to the smart immigrants building up america and not the stupid idiots here. When the Islamic system was followed properly the muslim world was the destination for europeans during the dark ages to get their education. But when hate started dividing the muslim world, it weakened it, and the US is now on a downhill because of the hate against muslims, mexicans who do all the hard work in this country and other minority americans, so soon in this country only the bums will be left and that explains how countries like CHINA OR INDIA moving the US aside soon

August 27, 2010
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Wouldn't be too interesting of a show, I am guessing you have never talked to a nun.

August 27, 2010
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@twackman, It is easy to be a Christian: You believe in Jesus and then whatever else you do you are forgiven!!! In that sense hateful people like  Rev Franklin  Graham are true Christian! Foolish me, I thought you have to follow Jesus footsteps to be a true Christian. 

August 27, 2010
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Like you guys follow in the steps of a warlord?

August 27, 2010
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maybe the nun woujld disclose all the secrets behind the closed doors of how all nuns are lesbians and do all sorts of kinky stuff....they should have there own reality tv show. Good ratings thas for sure!

August 27, 2010
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rs1201, you have got to be one of the dumbest responders here and believe me there are some real boneheads here.  I guess you forgot about the Christian rednecks down South that committed treason against the United States.  They were the same Christian Southern bigots who were then with the Christian Northern bigots that almost totally wiped out the Native American.  When was the last time the American government, established on its Christian principals, apologized to Black people for all of the wrongs done against them by the government?  A half written apology was given last year that passed only because liberal democrats controlled the house; and most of them reluctantly signed on.  The same Northern, Southern, Western and Eastern American bigots who now mostly call themselves conservatives voted against a simple apology.  So yes, Christians in America have done worst.

 

August 27, 2010
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there is probably a reason they are all covered up

August 27, 2010
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2nd picture....I am cornholio...need TP for my bunghole.

August 27, 2010
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Tracy99 : "Bunch of morons are writing stupid comments about a courageous woman who embraced Islam (the best religion on the face of the earth that is not man made)."

 

You have to be kidding.  Islam is a religion that a guy supposedly wrote while hanging out in a cave, fasting, and hallucinating.  They don't get any more man-made than that and it is certainly no less man-made than any other religion.  Every religion on this planet is man-made and it is exceptionally clueless to claim otherwise.

 

 

 

August 27, 2010
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@Farahs75, Head covering for women is pre-Jesus. Jewish women wear that as a sign of modesty, especially during religious ceremonies. I guess, both  devoted Christians and Muslims followed that principle.

August 27, 2010
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they talk about Islam and forget that the whole christian religion is about preachers raping kids cause they cant get married, what kind of religion is that. plus jesus was supposed to have told christians to love others, I see how they do that from the crusade in the past, to the wars they wage and the bombs they drop on women and children all over the world. If anything doesnt make sense its the christian religion

August 27, 2010
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@Farahs, I think the whole nun thing is absurd, the bible never promotes a life of celibacy yet that is one of the main pillars that they live their life by, I always thought it was crazy. Sorry you just got me going on the nun thing.

August 27, 2010
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Religion is at it's root sacreligious, it's about people claiming to know the mind of God.  First rule of religion/faith/believe/etc - if you think you're right, you've gotten it aaall wrong.

August 27, 2010
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cutting peoples heads of and stoning women and everything about shariah law makes no sense to me.

August 27, 2010
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at least muslim woman have more liberal rights than a catholic nun who secludes herself from society to live in a convent. Never really made sense to me.

August 27, 2010
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probably not the best comparison.

August 27, 2010
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mak2000,

 

I am surrounded by people who are not immigrants who are bright and productive.  Certainly there are bright and productive immigrants who contribute much to the US's vitality.  I have seen bums whose families have been here for generations and idiots who've just come off the boat.  Your generalization doesn't hold.

 

Unfortunately, a lot of the "hate" directed at Islam in the US is the product of years of Muslims around the world directing hate at us, many other non-Muslim countries/peoples, and other Muslims.  I'm sure it's very very difficult for American Muslims who are caught in the crossfire between Islamists on one end and vocal critics of Islam on the other.

 

China may get ahead because while the US bans stem cell research due to faith issues, China has no such qualms in its pursuit of science.  Faith is in the way of progress for both America and the Muslim world.

August 27, 2010
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actually i see some sense......if u put the fear into ppls hearts such as that law....ur bound not to break the law. simple.....same law is in america...capital punishment...y do some states allow capital punishment???

August 27, 2010
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I am cornholio..need TP for my bunghole.

 

August 27, 2010
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There is alot of hate out there. Why is everyone so pissed off?? I'm a muslim, spend most of my time chillin with American friends, Yeah i know i sholdn't drink bear but than again a preist should't touch little boys but he does.

 

i think we are focusing to much on on eastern countries when the real problem is here in the states with border control. Before we can fix anyones problems we need to fix our own. I love America but those idiots who hate muslims, christians, chatholics, etc... need to focus on their personal issues.

 

Ohh as soon as Ramadan is over, i might wait for a week and enjoy what god gave me "strippers" 

August 27, 2010
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@twackman cutting people's heads is unislamic but some muslims learned it from the crusades who no longer do it cause it takes time and they can just bomb large numbers of people now without bothering..... haha christianity a phony religion followed by phony people, people who claim it dont even follow the sayings of their god or prophet....

August 27, 2010
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The whole celibacy thing with priests and nuns is if anything is anti Christian, nowhere in the bible does it condone it. It just really pisses me off.

August 27, 2010
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I am cornholio...need TP for my bunghole

Hey....where did Butthead go?

 

August 27, 2010
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Reading these comments I find the words of God so true - "The fool hath said in his heart, 'there is no God'."  ... I find it so absurd that intelligent people can actually believe that matter just spontaneously came together in an ordered fashion and then some of it suddenly came to life... so strange to have these living beings talk smack against The One who gave them their life...

August 27, 2010
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ever seen braveheart? they really did torture criminals in the same manner as they tortured  mel gibson....i mean that back in the days, but the same concept still exists around the world.

August 27, 2010
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@mak2000, yeah the Crusades.... So I am guessing the Crusades wrote the Koran?  Really weak try dude.

August 27, 2010
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At some point in time Muslims will have a heart wrenching choice to make. Between their faith and their allegiance to the United States of America. Many scholars, political pundits and constitutional professors would argue that the United States is a country founded on freedom of expression and belief. This may be so, let the truth be told the United States is a Christian country that has its roots in foundation and the Bible. Anyone that believes other than that are delusional to the point of blindness.

As long as Muslims understand that in the near future United States will return to the Middle East to carry out further political and religious and capitalist agenda against Middle Eastern countries.

"I'm neither supporting, nor giving acceptance to this agenda but just pointing out the obvious".

As long as they can maintain their loyalty to the United States first and their political and religious beliefs second they will find it tolerable to be a Muslim in the United States. If this is not possible they will have to come to a crossroads where they may have to choose their faith over their citizens.

This is the truth that many ethnic groups have had to face over the years as American citizens. Native Americans, African Americans, Mexican-Americans, Japanese-Americans, German-Americans, Italian-Americans, British Americans and now Islamic Americans, welcome to the family this is your initiation by fire.

August 27, 2010
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If the Crusades has taught anything it has taught that oppressing the Christians is not a good idea.

August 27, 2010
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What is this Shara @$%*!?.....I need TP for my bunghole....Slayer rules!!!!!!!!!!

August 27, 2010
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Yes Slayer does rule.

August 27, 2010
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I think sharia in this country would keep criminals off the streets and more than likely decrease the number o murders` and rapists. THey should have a law where they castrate men in public and where women can throw rotten tomatoes at them.

August 27, 2010
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Somewhere in the world multiple followers of this peaceful and progressive religion blew themselves up taking innocent lives. I hope Islam in America can be practiced differently than Islam has been practiced everywhere else since it was founded. I also hope CNN stops trying to shove this garbage down my throat.

August 27, 2010
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maryann767 obviously converted because she is fat and ugly and would do anything for the first man who would pay attention to her.

August 27, 2010
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@twackman no but they were supposed to be the followers of the bible.. haha.... so either they beleive their religion is a joke or they are using the religion as a cover, either way it shows that christians dont have beleifs they just know they should hate others.

August 27, 2010
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Ugh....Uhh....anyone like my purple eyeshadow?  Huh...ugh...still need TP for my bunghole.

August 27, 2010
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@Bosanac, If all Muslims had your views we probably would have no issues.

August 27, 2010
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Drama!!! Grow some balls guys and join the army, experiance life, and stop talking shit.

August 27, 2010
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self defense is not hate, it is self preservation Mark.

August 27, 2010
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@Nicholsoncj people in this country dont care about beauty, Im sure people like you would sleep with their mother or sisters if any of them opens the back door for you. Ethics in this country is nonexistant and beauty is rare cause to see outer beauty you need the inner beauty too and I think this is what this girl gained by converting

August 27, 2010
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Faras75, nuns do it by choice, and can, and do,  leave at any time without Catholicism demanding they be stoned to death. muslim women have they right to do as they are told,to be subservient, to beaten by their husbands (don't say it is not sanctioned; it is.)to watch their daughters be stoned to death for marrying out of the tribe, to mutilate their daughter's genitalia, to be forbidden from classes with men,to dress as they please or to speak as they please. Again, your muslim logic points a finger at someone else while pulling a trigger with another finger. Can you go to the beach in a bathing suit? Can you compete in Olympic volley ball or hold a driver's license? Can you go to a restaurant or bar with someone other than your husband without being honor-murdered?

August 27, 2010
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MWankerstein, it's obvious you have never read the Qur'an. Perfect poetry based on the most complex math system known to mankind. Every letter has to fit and has fit for more than 1,400 years. No one has ever met the challenge in the Qur'an to create just one verse to match anyone of the verses in the Qur'an. Childbirth is explained so precise down to the exact of what has just been discovered within the last 100 years with the use of electron microscopes. I won't ask you to explain because better than you have tried and come up just as perplexed as they were when they started. I guess Muhammad (saws) had to have been either a genius or the creator but, no he was just a mortal man given divine wisdom by the Creator.

August 27, 2010
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tell me somtn oh pple of wisdom, how come Christians dont hate  jews? i mean they have every rite to.

August 27, 2010
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You in the Army Bosanac?

August 27, 2010
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Jews haven't really been a threat to anything but our wallets. Sorry you set me up for it.

August 27, 2010
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dude all u have address are cultural practices....how bout u read a real book on the truth of islam and the women role. google aminah asslimi and just see her biography very good informative videos on her perspective. she was a baptist and reverted to islam. so save ur self from sounding retarded and ignorant, u dont have to lecture me bout womens role in islam i know the truth unlike u.

August 27, 2010
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Why would Christians hate Jewish people?

 

August 27, 2010
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twackman i can go on and on complaining about life, relegion, and the idea of bush wasting billions of dollars on this war, people loosing jobs, but thats life.

August 27, 2010
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Ugh....Butthead told me Slayer started a religeon called Islam....Ugh....so I joined them.....they sent me to get TP for my bunghole....Ugh...Ugh...anyone have it?

August 27, 2010
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i dono b/c maybe jesus was killed by jews????

August 27, 2010
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Jesus will return to this earth one day because he owns it all... so why waste time worrying about "American", "Muslim", whatever... One day, "every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord."  So, let your mind be focused on things above, not on things of this earth...

August 27, 2010
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I never said anything about that, I just asked if you were in the Army.

August 27, 2010
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twackman i was in the Bosnian war, soldier @ 17.  But just because that happend doesnt mean i need to hate christians just because few serbs couldnt control their land.

August 27, 2010
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Well now you are just getting sensitive, I just asked if you were in the Army.

August 27, 2010
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so wat boogles my mind is how does love and compassion come b/w a christian and a jew after knowing that fact??? i mean in the back of there minds i'm sure they think about it in there daily lives??? its just natural i suppose.

August 27, 2010
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@Abundum You probably think Mecca aligns with the magnetic North Pole (the basis for the argument of "Mecca time") although it's been proven by scientists to align through North and South America.  The Koran is full of pseudoscience, and you've been fooled.  No wonder the Islamic world is intellectually stuck and progress comes from the US, Europe, Japan, India, and China.  Certainly not Arabia or Pakistan.

August 27, 2010
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I may not agree with your opinion but I will often defend your right to express it, but from my own experience abroad , being in different Arabic countries, is that the majority of muslim people detest , hate anything coming from the west and american culture. It is an unanimous judgment among them. I think CNN should not give so much importance to religious matters , and try to report the real news. 

August 27, 2010
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"Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West, especially among college educated religion."

 

False false false false false

 

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world due to rat-like r-selection breeding.

 

Evangelical Christianity is the fastest-growing religion in the world due to CONVERSION.

 

Wicca is the fastest-growing religion in the West by a long shot. 

August 27, 2010
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Ugh...I am the prophet Cornholio...Need TP for my bunghole.

August 27, 2010
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Last time I checked it was Christians who ended the war and save the muslims.

August 27, 2010
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I'm far from sensitive.  just at work chillin listening to the drama. 

August 27, 2010
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So much hate...

The problem here is in every religion there are many sects.  This is true for Islam and Christianity.  Many atrocities are carried out in the name of religion and in various sects.  This is true for Islam and Christianity.  Muslims throw stones at Christians and Christians throw stones at Muslims.  Both are guilty.  People need to look at this logically and as unbiased as possible.  For most of us that's impossible.  Our minds vehemently protect the ideas we were raised with.  People convert either way for illogical reasons.  People don't take the time to read both books through.  If they did they'd be in a much better position to judge whether or not their beliefs truly make sense.

August 27, 2010
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You say he was killed by Jews. Let's say he was. He wasn't a Christian, never taught Christianity and never even heard of it as far as it is stated in the Bible. Jesus was hijacked by Christianity as their mascot. He didn't even know the name Jesus during his time on earth. Use that rock on your shoulders for something other than storing dirt.

August 27, 2010
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Farahs 75, redirecting to hate Jews does not solve your problems. It only serves to make them much worse. Neither Christians nor Jews flew planes into Towers. Christan and Jews, where I live, worship together several times a year. (What is more, your English is appalling. I think you mean the word "right" and not "rite," the later being a religious ceremony or celebration. Please end interrogatives with a preposition, and begin sentences with a capitol letter. I will eschew spelling entirely. If you are going to try to set Christian against Jew, do it in a language we can understand. To conclude, you, and your syntax, are an abomination, anathema to American soil. We are on to you.)

August 27, 2010
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Islam would be dying out if not for Gulf countries propagating it with American oil money.

August 27, 2010
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No thats not fair, it wasn't the Christians, it was the US.

August 27, 2010
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twackman seems like some of these people need to get laid. to much time on there hands.

August 27, 2010
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u still havn't answered my question.  is it true jesus was killed by a jew?

August 27, 2010
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Farahs75 is exhibiting typical Muslim antisemitism. Try to pin everything on "the Jews". 

 

Farah75, your problems are a result of your belief system and your actions in accordance with it.

August 27, 2010
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What bothers me is that I'm 15, and I know that people much older than me are posting here and they have the most idiotic responses. Like really? What happened to freedom of religon? I'm muslim and proud. If you don't like it, there's a 'X' button on the top of the page.

 

These two ladies are people that I look up too. There muslim women that have converted and are NOT afraid to go out and say it to the world.

 

Most of the stupid people posting above obviously only pay attention to what the media says about muslims, and not how we REALLY are. I don't judge all Christians because SOME Christians have done something wrong, do I? No. I'm much smarter than that, and what people don't realize is that sometimes, you have to read between the lines and really look in to what the real story is.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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TO: Farahs75 - Christians don't hate Jews because God chose that people group as the lineage of Jesus (Jesus was a Jew).  And the Bible states that one day the Jews as a whole will finally accept Jesus as the Messiah. True Christians don't hate, btw... much less do they hate the people God chose to bring Christ into the world.

August 27, 2010
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"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world due to rat-like r-selection breeding." and fear of death squads.

August 27, 2010
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i didnt know this was a blog site on grammer...ooopppss

August 27, 2010
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promixcuous, the Gulf or Middle East makes up less than 15% of the Muslims in the world. Read guy, please...

August 27, 2010
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Laid...yea yea yea....huh huh huh...he said laid.

August 27, 2010
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@Abudum, seriously? are you smoking crack, of course Jesus was never a Christian, the religion was made based on his teachings after his death.

August 27, 2010
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i was simply asking out of curiousity, i saw the history channel and clearly the whole show was on how jesus was killed by jews...google it.

August 27, 2010
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Make sure you wear your berka when you go out or they will STONE you to death. What a pathetic religion:(

August 27, 2010
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"No one has ever met the challenge in the Qur'an to create just one verse to match anyone of the verses in the Qur'an."

 

"The Cow" - need I say more?  I am laughing so hard at Abudum(b)'s contribution that I am crying. 

 

Muslim troglodytes can't stand the fact that the West is superior to them by just about any measure imaginable.  They go to great lengths to invent these laughably idiotic feats in a vain effort to prove their superiority.  How many times have you heard boasting about "Arabic" numerals when they're actually Indian numerals?

 

Islam is merely Arab tribal desert-thug culture with a thin veneer of poorly understood Christianity, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism.  It's a sad copy of its betters and a joke. 

 

The world laughs at you troglodytes, winning less Nobel prizes in the sciences than you can count on two hands - quite possibly one the last time I counted. 

 

Eat your hearts out.

August 27, 2010
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WASSABI u sound like u have OCD tendencies....take a chil pill, no need to be anal retentive on such minor issues such as grammer. u still havn't proven ur point.

August 27, 2010
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People can slam Christianity all they want, in the end it does not change all the murders Muslims are committing in the name of Islam, women are still being stoned and tribes are still killing each other, Ill take pedophiles being my religions biggest issue over that.

August 27, 2010
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And that eye makeup will get your eye lids removed, hope you enjoy the sun.

August 27, 2010
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"The problem here is in every religion there are many sects"

 

Point to a single instance of anything in Islam that resembles the Metropolitan Community Church.  Gay bishops?  Women priests?

 

Compared to Christianity on the most salient aspects, Islam IS a monolith.

August 27, 2010
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Farahs75, The word is GRAMMAR. Creato ex timoro. Dude, you have created that which you have feared.

August 27, 2010
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@ Bosanac I agree

August 27, 2010
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To be fair the Catholic church murder a bunch of people in the name of the lord but I think that they have out grown that, but who knows lets bring out the boxing ring and see who comes out alive. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!

August 27, 2010
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TO: Farahs75 - Why are you fixated on the "Jews killed Jesus" idea?  Technically, it was the Romans. But aside from that, Jesus stated that no one was taking his life.  He was laying it down of his own free will.  He could've walked away from the cross.  He had the power to avoid it.  But the point was that He came into the world for a reason and that was this - Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.  You are either very uneducated about religion or you are not a very deep thinker or you just like to spew hatred... maybe all of the above?

August 27, 2010
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Calling people out on their grammar has to be the lamest way to argue. If one letter misspelled totally throws you off then you have some problems.

August 27, 2010
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i'd be scared to be next to a priest...they scare me!

August 27, 2010
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I'm starting to miss Hitler. i think he forgot one jew to gas "nicholsoncj"

August 27, 2010
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@Nicholsoncj.

 

Lmfao. Wow, you have too much time on your hands buddy. Time to wake up into the real world.

Never in my life have I seen someone as dim-witted as you are.

See, my friend, you are one of the MANY people who follows what the media says and you can't just see how Islam REALLY is.

 

Stop googling things and look at the real picture.

August 27, 2010
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@Nicholsoncj: great posts.

August 27, 2010
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Quoting myself:

 

"

 

Can I get a single Muslim to denounce Muhammad's massacre of the Banu Qurayza?  Just one Muslim?

 

 

Waiting ..."

 

Still waiting ...

August 27, 2010
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You mean there is no Gay Pride Parade in Teheran? No openly gay or lesbian imam out there? Well, at least a woman is allowed to be an imam, right? You are shattering my illusions here. Next , you'll be telling me one cannot have beer during Ramadan.

August 27, 2010
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Does "Nicholson" sound Jewish to you, dumbass?  But thanks for showing the typical Muslim anti-Jewish colors.

August 27, 2010
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no i'm serious i came across many christians who believed that he was killed by jews...not trying to spew anything just want to understand why some think that.

August 27, 2010
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and yes we all know the Jews killed Jesus. But that was in the past. You can't hold people responsible for something their people did lifetimes ago, just like I do not hold current Muslims responsible for the Crusades, I do not gig the Jews for Jesus.

August 27, 2010
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That's strange????? I posted a comment and it is gone. Anyway, I had a couple questions - Why if the muslims have lived here for so many years do they now feel compelled to wear a scarf or burka? This apparently wasn't a criteria befoer about 15 years ago so what makes it so important now? Did the religion eveolve into something backwards? It just seems that there is a real push now to make people accept something that was never a requirement here before.

August 27, 2010
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Why I converted to Islam »

 

"Because I am in America, where it is safe to wear make-up, drive a car, be seen with other men, and take my hijab off for a breather without being stoned to death."

August 27, 2010
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@Nuria16,

 

You blame the media because the media presents the facts: Muslims, inspired by Islam, kill innocents.  All over the world.

 

Once you see the world through facts rather than the prismatic distortions of the Koran, you will understand why the rest of us find Islam somewhere between ridiculous and dangerous. 

August 27, 2010
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maybe your a hybrid

August 27, 2010
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I'm sure jesus wanted to die due to his own will, but ur telling me jews had no role in it? i believe there was some conspiracy towards his death

August 27, 2010
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I am not a Christian, but if you read the NT you can see that it wasn't "the Jews" who killed Jesus.  Jews (according to the NT but probably not in reality) were following Jesus in droves.

 

It was the hypocritical Jewish religious establishment who crucified Jesus - the Pharisees who were like marble tombs with uncleanness within. 

 

If you want to extend the message to today it was the pedophile Catholic priests and the gay-bashing-but-gay-themselves Protestant preachers who killed Jesus. 

August 27, 2010
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@Bosanac

 

"I'm starting to miss Hitler. i think he forgot one jew to gas "nicholsoncj""

 

In the end, you're just another hateful Muslim. 

 

And the media presents those who protest hateful Islam as the haters? 

August 27, 2010
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@Farahs75   I think Jews killed Jesus but I don't believe the faith did. Then again it was before any of us were alive so all we really have to go by is history books I guess.

August 27, 2010
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Farash75, "I'd be scared to be next to a priest...they scare me!" Your bashing of priests serves no purpose. It does not deflect or justify Islamic victimization strategy. Far worse, though, is that you used an ellipses to join two independent clauses. To join two independent clause, one needs a semicolon. In addition, your first sentence had a singular subject. Your second had a plural subject. This is not a terrible faux pas, but it does show an imbalanced mind.

August 27, 2010
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What a lame reason to convert to Islam

its obvious it was for Political Reasons.

She doesnt even mention her love for God,

which is the reason to join any church or

religion. I see she mentions right away

Muslims for Palestine, thats a Political Movement not a religious reason. She wouldnt

even mention she was American as her place

of Origin.

These are the kind of converts that worry

people.

As someone who has been close to God all my

life, this is truley a pathetic reason to

convert.

August 27, 2010
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Back atcha, promixcuous.

August 27, 2010
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Yes Jews did follow Jesus but not all Jews did, the religious elites supposedly were responsible for his demise.

August 27, 2010
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Hey Bosanac, next time you see people protesting Islam, you'll know in your heart what they are saying is correct about you.

August 27, 2010
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Man these are pointless conversations. But work is done time to go home, got my muslim things to do/practice hate/ and all that other crap.  Allahimanet to everyone.

August 27, 2010
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Mea culpa on the 'clause' in the singular. It should be 'clauses.'  I made a mistake and I was wrong.

August 27, 2010
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Woman, I am sorry that no man here attracted to you.  You have tried to convert to lesbian and that didn't work either.  So, you decided to convert to muslim so that you may find a man.  But, too bad, there is no man in your new world.

August 27, 2010
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hey can someone here intelligently speak with knowledge bout islam and womens role..all i hear is garbage and ignorant rants.  google Aminah Asslimi for the truth, shes muslim activist a former baptist , listen to her perspective shes a white american born an raised from this soil, maybe ur hearts will soften after reading her biography.

August 27, 2010
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Alright all you wacky Muslims, I'm going to bed, try not to get in any trouble while I'm asleep.

August 27, 2010
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Promixcous i dont have time to keep track what other people are doing.  You present your self an ass i punch you, you present your self as a friend we drink beer.  Simple 

August 27, 2010
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Jesus Christ, the Romans wanted him executed!  It's ridiculous to hold a people hostage for something that happened 2,000 years ago.  It's not as if said people worship a holy book that celebrates Jesus' demise.  What happened to Jesus has nothing to do with contemporary Judaism and everything to do with political situation two millenia ago.

 

Blood libel.

August 27, 2010
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Nuria16

 

@Nicholsoncj.

 

 

Lmfao. Wow, you have too much time on your hands buddy. Time to wake up into the real world.

 

Never in my life have I seen someone as dim-witted as you are.

 

See, my friend, you are one of the MANY people who follows what the media says and you can't just see how Islam REALLY is.

 

 

Stop googling things and look at the real picture.

 

-


 

I am a member of the Triple Nine Society with a minor in Religious Studies, vermin.  I have read the Qur'an.  If anything - and I say this speaking as a liberal myself - the media bend over backward to make Islam look innocuous. 

 

I dare you, Nuria, to denounce the actions of Muhammad described here:

 

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, 'By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken.' Then he went to the men and said, 'God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel.' Then he sat down and his head was struck off

August 27, 2010
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Farahs75, try spending more time reading books rather than banning them, and, get a girlfriend.

August 27, 2010
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The Koran is true; it says "Assuredly you (Muslims) will be tried in your property and in your persons, and you will hear much wrong from those who were given the Scripture before you, and from the none-believers. But if you persevere and ward off (evil), then that is of the steadfast heart of things.

August 27, 2010
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People who convert to Islam follow a book that is a logical contradiction and believe in a prophet whose entire life and teachings were self-contradictions. In other words, the religion they converted to is a logical contradiction. This is why people find it strange that those who are supposed to be intelligent enough to know better converted to Islam.

August 27, 2010
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"He that has ears to hear, let him hear":  Jesus died for your sins.  If your turn from your own ways and believe this fact as true for yourself personally, you will have Life. Otherwise, you will die in your sins... Now, stop worrying about Jews, Muslims, Christians, Americans, Hitler, Catholic priests... You will face your Maker one day.  And He does not give a fig about your current string of comments.  But He does care about whether you received Him into your life and heart...

August 27, 2010
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@promixcuous

 

No, actually.

Let me put it this way. If there's a robbery of some sort somewhere, they never ever say the realigon of the robber/person who caused the whole problem. BUT if he/she is muslim, the whole entire world knows within 24 hours.

My best friend is Christian, and I have NOTHING against Christianity. I also have many Jewish friends, and I don't judge them by there realigon.

 

I'm only 15 years old, and really, I do see the facts. I've looked through the Quran and read out of it many times. And I do believe in everything in it. There is not one dangerous thing, not one ridiculous thing in it really. Ever single thing that Allah tells us to do, or tells us not to do, there is a logical and good reason behind it.

August 27, 2010
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Denounce the beheading of up to 900 prisoners of war, Nuria.

August 27, 2010
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Abu Saeed said: “We went out with Allâh's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus.  So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allâh's Apostle who is present among us?"  We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."

August 27, 2010
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@Nuria16: There is not one dangerous thing, not one ridiculous thing in it really."

 

The above posts are filled with Koranic quotes of incitement to violence against women and unbelievers.

 

Are they mistaken?

August 27, 2010
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y cant preists get married? its only logical that  the number of child molestations  would decrease? at least imams can have 4 wives. its pretty sad to be a priest. wat a lonely life.

August 27, 2010
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I was reading an article today on how conversions to Islam have accelerated in North America since 9/11. The common reason that sparked interest in these converts was the negative portrayal of Muslims in the media. I find that very ironic.

 

While I may not agree with the tenets of all religion, I must say that as an American, it's reassuring that some people do the due diligence of research rather than shape their opinions from quick sound bites.

August 27, 2010
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The ability or inability of Catholic priests to marry has no bearing on the fact that Muhammad was an illiterate bandit, thug, mass-murderer, and rapist of women and children, Farah.

August 27, 2010
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@Nicholsoncj.

 

I'm a 15 year old girl and I live in America, always have been and always will. I was brought up by muslim parents and I do have muslim background, and I always state what I believe in. You are obviously much older than me, and I respect your opinion.

 

Honestly, I have not read the whole entire Quran (I don't read Arabic that well)but, I do know the rules of Islam and what to do and what not to do.

 

That story that you posted, I've never heard of in my life, actually. Even if it is true, I think that there's a logical reason behind it.

But don't get me wrong. There are thousands of crazy muslims out there. There stupid and do the most idiotic things that anyone can imagine.

 

But what I hate is when people judge EVERY MUSLIM because of these crazy ass people.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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"... it's reassuring that some people do the due diligence of research rather than shape their opinions from quick sound bites."

 

Obviously not those who "revert."

August 27, 2010
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Boy this comment thread has been totaly derailed with misdirection from the Subject.

Which is Why did this woman convert to Islam.

And its obvious it was a Political Move and not Spiritual.

August 27, 2010
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@promixcuous

 

Actually, yeah, you have no idea how many websites out there are just out there to make Muslim people look bad. Its nuts, people have nothing better to do in there free time. Go open up a translated Quran and read it. Rules of Islam aren't what people say they are. Just because some crazy people did some stupid things doesn't mean you have to judge everyone for it, now does it?

 

 

@Farah

Darling, I am muslim, but what you are saying is a bit... well, stupid. If you don't want people bashing on your religon, then respect there's if you want yours respected. Its that easy.

August 27, 2010
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Sister Aminah Asslimi everyone!  thats someone worth researching, her life is a clear example of a muslim womens role in america or any country  is suppose to be.  she represents it truthfuly from the teahings of the koran and sunnah. read her biography if you don't agree but take the lil effort and gain some real knowledge.

August 27, 2010
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If you think the event is sick and twisted, Nuria, then denounce it.  It's easy. If you think the hadith is not valid, and some do, then denounce the actions since Muhammad didn't commit them anyway, right?

 

The fact that is most Muslims believe that the massacre of the Banu Qurayza happened exactly as described in the hadith cited.  It's from one of the most trusted collections, and the event is alluded to in the Qur'an itself. 

 

Ask your parents if it was just that up to 900 (obviously exaggerated, but it doesn't matter - Muslims believe the numbers cited and are ok with them) men and boys were beheaded by Muhammad.  Ask them why they don't denounce such a massacre of prisoners of war, regardless of who is carrying out the massacre.

 

Another part of the story not cited above is that all the male children were checked for the growth of pubic hair.  If they had any they were deemed old enough to be beheaded instead of enslaved.

 

There is no defense of the actions attributed to Muhammad in that hadith - none. 

 

The reluctance on the part of Muslims to denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza is very telling.

August 27, 2010
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@Nuria16:

 

"But what I hate is when people judge EVERY MUSLIM because of these crazy ass people."

 

Generalizations across people are always stupid and hurtful.  I'm sure it must be very frustrating to watch all this tension surrounding your faith.

August 27, 2010
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"Just because some crazy people did some stupid things doesn't mean you have to judge everyone for it, now does it?"

 

Even if one of those "crazy people" was Muhammad himself?

August 27, 2010
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let them bash its not going to stop anyone, the bashing will continue till judgement day.

August 27, 2010
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if ur too sensitive then i believe this blog is not the rite site for u.

August 27, 2010
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Muhammad did what came natural to him; kill steal and rape.

August 27, 2010
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yup thats y 1.3 billion muslims follow him, makes sense

August 27, 2010
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All that shit about Muhammad that everyone says isn't true, Nicholsoncj. The first time in my life I have ever heard of him "rapping" women and children is about 15 minutes ago when I was reading a post right on here.

 

He got engaged to a girl that was about 9, which is really young, I'll tell you that. But he was friends with that girls father, and they agreed for Prophet Muhammad to get married to her when she gets older. Prophet Muhammad had many wives, but not once did he 'rape' someone or whatever.

Its funny, actually, to see how people are wanting to bash Islam and they'll do anything to make it seem like its the wrong thing to do.

 

August 27, 2010
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"But what I hate is when people judge EVERY MUSLIM because of these crazy ass people."

 

I have a deal for you, Nuria:

 

When Muslims fill the streets of the Ummah in riotous protest of so-called terrorists that they disingenuously claim "defame" Islam instead of in protest of cartoons of long-dead Muhammad, then I won't lump you in with the rest of Muslims.

 

When Muslims burn the embassies of Iran and Saudi Arabia instead of Denmark and Holland  - then I will stop associating you with that "tiny minority of extremists."

 

When OBL's approval rating in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia falls below 25% (it has been over 50% at some points in both countries) - then I will stop lumping you in.

 

In fact, when you disappear from this comments thread to search out the limitless Web sites of the "tiny minority of extremists" who supposedly defame Islam - and do it violently, resulting in deaths - to argue with THEM instead of sitting there debating with innocuous loudmouths like me ... then I will quit lumping you in with the crazy-people Muslims.

August 27, 2010
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Sahih Bukhari

 

    Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

 

    Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151

 

August 27, 2010
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nuria i suggest u not waste any more of ur precious energy quarreling with fanatics.  save ur breath...reasearch aminah assilimi everyone, maybe she can shed some light to all u haterzzzz! peace luv an happiness my brothers and sisters!

August 27, 2010
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RIP sIster aminah Asslimi, u r the light for the women in america! godd bless us all.

August 27, 2010
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@Nuria16, Nicholsoncj makes important points.  It's up to you to take back your religion.  Do that...make it about moderation and peace...and then the non-Muslims attacking it will lack base. 

 

The problem in the Muslim world is that there is no strong voice for liberalism or even moderation.  Furthermore, all things wrong are blamed on non-Muslims (or even different-sect Muslims).

 

Science has proven that there is no such thing as a perfect holy book.

August 27, 2010
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"Its funny, actually, to see how people are wanting to bash Islam and they'll do anything to make it seem like its the wrong thing to do."

 

It's funny to see the length Muslims will go to to pretend that raping a 9yo girl is no big deal.  He was "engaged" to Aisha at the age of SIX.  He raped her at the age of nine.

 

Before you start in with that "things were different back then" bs, the age of the onset of menarche is SOONER in the present day than it was back then.  Girls didn't get their periods back then typically until 14, 15, or even 16.  You can subtract at least 2 years from those ages for healthy Western girls of today.

 

And do you mean to tell me that you're ok, as an American girl, with this:

 

"But he was friends with that girls father, and they agreed for Prophet Muhammad to get married to her when she gets older."

 

-- ?

 

How sad.

August 27, 2010
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and for ur info u can't simp[ly quote out of context...know the history behind it first and then make ur arguments. just makes more sense that way.

August 27, 2010
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I bet Eddie is a black dude with one huge coc and she couldn't let go of him. So this white trash converts to islam to suck more of his black coc. You know wat they say once you go black, you aint coming back and once you go islam, you want muhammeds manhood rubbing between your thighs.

August 27, 2010
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Yes, an almost-40yo man is arguing with a 15yo.  There is still hope for someone that young, before she potentially ends up like Aqsa Parvez.

August 27, 2010
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I normally don't judge people for their religions. After all, it's really randomly imposed on you, that is, it depends to which set of parents, into which culture you are born. Most people accept that random label and live their life according to the least path of resistance within the culture they find themselves in.

 

But I cannot excuse anyone for making a conscious effort and coming up with a religious choice, especially if the choice religion happens to be one of the most backwards  ones available.

 

 

 

 

August 27, 2010
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Nicholsoncj quotes,

"But he was friends with that girls father, and they agreed for Prophet Muhammad to get married to her when she gets older."

 

This is the crux of the problem with Islam: If Mohammed did it, it must be OK.  I see a lack of moral principle.

 

There is no professional who will tell you marrying a nine-year-old is OK for that girl's health.  Yet, in Mohammed's image, Yemenites continue this practice.

 

Mohammed simply was wrong.

August 27, 2010
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Bibke = "Kill all boys, women, and girls but keep the virgin ones for yourselves" Numbers 31:17-18. So God comnnaded "the chosen people" to do in "the promised lands"....There are millions extremist Bible believers calling for that to happen nowadays and cheer for Israel's massacers against none-jews in "the promised lands"

August 27, 2010
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WHY WE ARE SO HATEFUL TO EACH OTHER, WHY WE ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH LIVING DIFFERENT CULTURE , FAITH AND RELIGION TOGETHER,WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROVE, .

I THINK WE ARE IN IRAQ(OFFICIALLY) TO GIVE IRAQI MUSLIMS FREEDOM, THATS WHY WE HAD >4000 SOLDIER GAVE THEIR LIFE, BUT HERE WE ARE HAVING PROBLEM TO ACCEPT CONCEPT OF FREEDOM. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SAUDI ARABIA, HERE THERE IS NO SECOND CLASS RELIGION, RACE , OR FAITH.

HOW ABOUT MUSLIM CHILDREN BORN HERE, WHEN WE SAY GO BACK TO YOUR HOME ,THIS IS THERE HOME, THEY DON'T EVEN SPEAK LANGUAGE OF THERE PARENTS, AND HARDLY EVER VISITED THEIR PARENTS COUNTRY, THEY ARE AMERICANS,

PLEASE FOR GOD SAKEDO NOT DIVIDE THIS COUNTRY ON BASIS OF FAITH, RELIGION, IT WILL ONLY CREATE PROBLEMS,

August 27, 2010
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remember everyone don't let this hate effect u in any way...its only words....prophet mohammed delt with much more slander bck then...so be patient, relax, calm down...understand ur dealing with ignorant ppl. and remember god is most compassionate most merciful.

August 27, 2010
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@Nicholsoncj,

Re: Aqsa Parvez: it's unbelievable that happened in Mississauga.  It's an indicator of how far Canada has fallen in terms of not integrating Muslim immigrants.  These people should never have been allowed into North America.

August 27, 2010
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"and for ur info u can't simp[ly quote out of context...know the history behind it first and then make ur arguments. just makes more sense that way."

 

Typical Muslim dissembler.

 

Ok, Farah, then explain the context that makes the massacre of boys who just got their pubic hair ok.  

 

Tell us why the massacre of the Banu Qurayza by "al-insan al-kamil" was hunky-dory.

 

Oh, there are apologetics.  I have probably heard every Muslim defense of Muhammad's subhuman barbarity in this instance, but here is the problem:

 

Absolutely no argument of defense satisfies present-day secular Western notions of justice and morality.  You can argue all day about how Muhammad was merely carrying out the Jews' own law while ignoring the fact that that doesn't excuse the killing a barely-pubescent boys and the enslavement and rape of the women and girls. 

 

Go ahead and try so I can laugh.

August 27, 2010
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@Farahs75: Mohammed is responsible for 1600 years of hate.  His Wahibi disciples have significantly poisoned the world with hate over recent decades.

 

You sound amazingly hypocritical.

August 27, 2010
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Do you think I can go back in time and change that?

No.

I believe in my realigon, in the Quran, and actually, yeah, things WHERE different back then. She didn't have a problem with it. She was fine marrying the prophet, even though he had many wifes before her.

 

No, I don't think thats okay. I'm going to get married to whoever I like. Its my decison, but back then it wasn't. In most Middle Eastern places though, that's how it still is. The parents pick out your husband.

I do not believe in that, even though thats how it was god knows how many years ago.

That's not my problem though.

 

As a muslim, I believe in what the Quran says, and it doesn't specifically say to 'get married to whoever your parents say' or 'rape people because its good' or anything along those lines, does it? You've read the Quran, you tell me. Does it say that you should kill 900 people in a massacre and not worry about it? No. Does it say to kill innocent people? No, it forbids it.

August 27, 2010
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not a breath shall be  wasted my freind...u simply will not open ur heart or mind so no sense in trying to convince u of anything. all those degrees u have ..u mite as well throw them in the thrash....ur not deserving of findin out the truth.

August 27, 2010
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"Bibke = "Kill all boys, women, and girls but keep the virgin ones for yourselves" Numbers 31:17-18."

 

Name someone here who defends this verse.  I think it utterly convicts Yahweh, myself.

 

Tu quoque is a sad argument, especially when there is no tu for you to address.

August 27, 2010
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Nuria,

 

So I take it that you denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza by Muhammad.  Is that correct?  You believe it doesn't say in the Qur'an to massacre 900 people, yet Muhammad did.  So obviously you condemn Muhammad's actions. Right?

August 27, 2010
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"She didn't have a problem with it. She was fine marrying the prophet, even though he had many wifes before her."

 

That precocious little Aisha!

August 27, 2010
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everyone check outwww thedeenshow .comamazing insight in islam ... a tv show broadcasted live in chicago  wkly......with scholars with knowledge...dont be lazy google it!

August 27, 2010
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(i)Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).

   

(ii) We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).

   

(iii) We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.

   

(iv) We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).

   

(v) We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.

   

(iv) We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.

August 27, 2010
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Nichols,

Talk to Pat Robertson, John Hagee, Falwell, and their churches with their "Koran burdning day"..You would be surprised how many millions of folks (maybe you included) are inspired by the Bible to hate and hurt others.

August 27, 2010
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You have eyes yet you will be blind.

You have ears yet you will be deaf.

You have brains yet you don't seem to use them.

 

Who in the right mind would follow a religion that was created by a rapist, child molester, war monger, hate preacherer, thief and a murderer.

Prophecy of the True God the heavenly father was fulfilled when christ came to this planet and sacrificed to himself for our sins and rose again from the death.

 

He did mention to watch out for wolves in sheep's clothing,  who would claim that they are messengers from God.

 

When Jesus came and freed us from our sins and gave us eternal life, the satan was defeated.  So the cunning satan devised a plan to destroy this gift of god.

 

The plan was islam, who better than mohammed ( he has all the qualifications needed).  He would say he was a messenger from god, he would steal everything from the torah and bible. But in between give a bit of hate and jihad.  Perfect plan 1 billion ppl for satan and destruction of other human beings.  May God have mercy on these 1 billion ppl on judgement day.

 

In fact, this was revealed to me by angel from heaven last night and i wrote it each word with precision.  So that I dont make any mistakes.

 

God bless America

August 27, 2010
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Worshiping is a complete and utter waste of time.  Go do something productive.

August 27, 2010
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i heard pat robertson worships satan...true???

August 27, 2010
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This thread is a perfect example of why

we have war in the world right now

August 27, 2010
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"....prophet mohammed delt with much more slander bck then ..."

 

Marwan's daughter, eh?  Maybe some Muslim will murder me like they did her for righteously mocking Muhammad.

 

Insha'allah, n'est-ce pas?

August 27, 2010
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The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."

 

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

 

"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."

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August 27, 2010
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"i heard pat robertson worships satan...true???"

 

I hate Pat Robertson.  May his prostate cancer return and may he die in agony.

 

Your run-of-the-mill Muslim is somewhere to the right of Pat Robertson on all the important issues: women's rights, gay rights, free speech, religious freedom, etc.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."

 

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

 

"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."

#

 

August 27, 2010
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But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced(B) the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35(C) And one of them,(D) a lawyer, asked him a question(E) to test him. 36"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37And he said to him, (F) "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38This is the great and first commandment. 39And(G) a second is like it:(H) You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40(I) On these two commandments depend(J) all the Law and the Prophets."

August 27, 2010
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Patriot,

You need to read the Koran for yourself learn about the great prophet Muhammad, the wonderfull man, father, leader, prophet, teacher and human from crediable sources. Anti-Islam hate web sites spread lies and have political and extremist religious agenda (sounds like you belong to those hate groups)

August 27, 2010
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So I take it that manoftruth1 denounces the massacre of the Banu Qurayza, correct?

 

 

August 27, 2010
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Instead of God Bless America, let's realize that God, if it's out there, is not listening.

 

We should say, "Let's Bless America Ourselves".

 

People need to abandon these supernatural myths and take direction of our lives and the public good.

August 27, 2010
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I) Concept of God in Christianity:

1. Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

(i) "My Father is greater than I."

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(ii) "My Father is greater than all."

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(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."

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(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."

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(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."

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August 27, 2010
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I) Concept of God in Christianity:

1. Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

(i) "My Father is greater than I."

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(ii) "My Father is greater than all."

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(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."

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(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."

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(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."

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August 27, 2010
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Nichol, wasn't the ex-president whose role model is Jesus and talks to God who lied to his nation, forged evidence to start a war and killed, maimed, made homeless and refugee many millions in the propcess. Oh not to mention the $8 billions of Iraqi oil revenue that "cannot be accounted for"...I wonder which Bible follower stole it in the name Yahwah.

August 27, 2010
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I) Concept of God in Christianity:

1. Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

(i) "My Father is greater than I."

The Bible, John 14:28

 

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."

The Bible, John 10:29

 

(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."

The Bible, Mathew 12:28

 

(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."

The Bible, Luke 11:20

 

(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."

The Bible, John 5:30

   

August 27, 2010
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Like I said, I don't even know what that massacre was about/what it was for/anything about it.

I believe that Prophet Muhammed was a great person. Never once before I clicked on this, have i heard one bad thing about him.

 

What I think you don't realize, Nicholsoncj, I'm just a regular teenaged girl. I play sports, I go to school, I hang out with friends, I shop, read, blog, tweet, etc etc. Just because I defend my religon that I was brought up by I'm all of the sudden a 'soon to be terrorist'

Wow. Talk about lame.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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Nichols,

 

Talk to Pat Robertson, John Hagee, Falwell, and their churches with their "Koran burdning day"..You would be surprised how many millions of folks (maybe you included) are inspired by the Bible to hate and hurt others.

 

 

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I am an atheist who hates everyone you just named.  In fact, I hope they all get cancer. On the other hand, none among them has flown a plane into a skyscraper.

 

If I hate them as much as I do, imagine just how much more I hate Muslims. 

 

Are you implying that burning a BOOK hurts people?  No, imbecile.  If you want to know what REALLY hurts people ask the children of Beslan, both live and dead.  They could instruct you.

 

As an individual action burning a book hurts no one.  However, it does bring to mind unpleasant associations.  That is why I propose instead a "rebind the Qur'an in a pigskin cover day."

August 27, 2010
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I must say thank you for all the love & support I have been given! If it weren't for being in such a loving country with warm & welcoming people I don't know how the transition would have went smoothly!

 

Nonetheless, I wanted to answer a few things.

 

1. I only wear the scarf when praying, I wear makeup and am not harassed by any Muslim men.

 

2. I make it clear I studied all religions and Islam made the most sense to me. After all the Quran references the Bible and Torah left & right. For the unknowing the Torah is the first testament, The Bible is the second...the Quran many people call the 3rd testament since it references all 3. I read all 3 books, I suggest you do the same to educate yourself on what over 1 BILLION people believe.

 

3. The reason it is being talked about heavily this month is this is a Holy month for Muslims.

 

4. Eddie is in fact white. He graduated from West Point at the top of his class and is now an Airborne Ranger with a staff position in Afghanistan.

 

5. I will not move to another country, this is my country. I believe we all came here to America under similar pretenses you are suggesting.

 

6. I attend a Christian University where I am obtaining my Masters this year, and will be on to my doctorate in education there after. I am highly educated.

 

7. We glorify Jesus just as you do, we only don't believe he was the son of God but rather the Savior.

 

I understand we are all scared of the unknown but I suggest we educate ourselves before we spew hatred and plain lies.

 

If you are interested in more about me check out the rest of my Ramadan series.

 

Thanks and God Bless

 

Ohhhh yeah - to throw some fun in the mix my brother closest to me in age is atheist and we get along beautifully!

August 27, 2010
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3. God Sent Jesus' (pbuh)

   

The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:

   

(i)"… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me."

The Bible, John 14/24

   

(ii)"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent."

The Bible, John 17/3

   

4. Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

   

Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

 

"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

 

And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "

The Bible, Mathew 19/16-17

 

Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

August 27, 2010
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I don't see much denouncing going on, Nuria. 

 

If you defend the abominable actions of Muhammad then you might not be a terrorist, but you certainly abet terrorists.

 

See folks?  Read back early in this comments thread.  I predicted on the first page that no Muslim would denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza, and so far I have been right. 

 

Why would anyone doubt my perspicacity in these matters?

August 27, 2010
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Al-Qur'an 20:25-28

Greet you in the same manner as Jesus (pbuh) greeted in Hebrew Luke 24:36

‘Sholam alay kum’

or Islamic greeting in Arabic Assalaamu alai kum

both meaning ‘Peace be on you’.

 

August 27, 2010
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The question to Maebelle is why believe anything at all, let alone a religion which shows little comparability with progressive values or scientific reason.

August 27, 2010
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Why do you glorify Jesus, but not believe he is the Son of God. When Jesus Himself said he was not only the Son of God but "Before Abraham was, I AM" he is telling you right there he "IS" God in the flesh.

So you really arent glorifying Jesus by calling him a Prophet, when he was God in the Flesh and told us he was. "I and the Father are one"

Jesus told us that he was the fullfilment of the Prophets, there would be no more prophets, and adding to the Words of God after Revelations you would be adding a Curse to your self. This makes Mohamed the "False Prophet" Jesus spoke of when he talked to St John.

Denying Christ as the Savior, the Son of God

is the very spirit of Antichrist

August 27, 2010
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If Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Christ (pbuh) and not one who worships Christ (pbuh). Then Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves).

(b)  Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.

Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.

John 5:30

(c)  Al-Qur'an 5:82

 

 

 

plz cross check in the bible. the refrence which i am qouting

 

 

August 27, 2010
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Maebelle wrote:

"I understand we are all scared of the unknown but I suggest we educate ourselves before we spew hatred and plain lies."

 

Spare me the more-enlightened-than-thou bs.  Your degrees are in education?  I am not impressed. I am a member of Mensa and the Triple Nine Society who attended university on full scholarship. I have a minor in Religious Studies.  My major fields of study were Computer Science and French.

 

Educated?  You're a mental midget compared to me.

 

Denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza by Muhammad, Maebelle - if you dare.

 

August 27, 2010
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....a religion which is really also a political patriarchal construct giving absolute power to imans and their Saudi Arabian rulers.

 

Islam is a means for the control of others.  Its corruption is plainly illustrated by the state of Saudi Arabia toward which all Muslims pray.

 

Islam is incompatible with the inquisitive mind.  This is why no substantial science comes out of the Islamic world.

August 27, 2010
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Nichols,

No I am talking about the wars that these Bible believers have advocated/funded/supported way before there was anything close to terrorism from "muslims"...for many centuries in the past and many decades in modern history to nowadays. I am talking about the muslim cab driver who was stabbed in NY yesterday.

The simple fact is there was no Hamas before Israel brutalized the Palestinians, there was no Hizbollah before Israel turned Beirut into rouble, there was no Qaeda before USSR invaded Afganistan, and there was no Chechen rebels before Russia flattened Grozny. This simple fact seem to be absent from the media and politicians. Face it; Bible believers started the cycle of hate, violence, and wars, in many/most instances in the name of the Bible. The lie to the fools and say they're all about democracy and freedom when they are really about hate and Armgeddon.

August 27, 2010
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@Maebelle,

 

"I must say thank you for all the love & support I have been given!"

 

You don't seem to be in touch with the reality of what the vast majority of posters have suggested on this board: your conversion was ridiculous.  Many have astutely pointed out that it was politically motivated.  A lot of informed people have brought up excellent, well-reasoned points against your actions.  There is certainly a lot to think about here, isn't there?

August 27, 2010
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Worship1God:

 

On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandment

 

 

You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. You really need to fill up on that olanzapine and lorezapam prescriptions right away.

 

Why do you think muhammed included jesus in his fantasy story. Even the devil himself cannot blasphemy against the son of GOD.  He is so pure, loving and sinless that no one can speak ill of such a being of god.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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Nickolas, thank you admitting you hate Muslims. I just hope you keep your hate to yourself and do not translate it into any actions of violence or prejeduce.

August 27, 2010
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"The simple fact is there was no Hamas before Israel brutalized the Palestinians, ..."

 

There were no PALESTINIANS until it was politically useful for them to exist.  Jews settled Israel by buying land, often at ripoff prices.  Arabs received the lion's share of the mandate.  It's called "Jordan."

 

Spare me the idiotic "dey stole der land" routine.  The only reason that there is strife in the region is because Arabs can't abide the fact that non-Muslims and non-Arabs control a tiny strip of land that they once conquered.

August 27, 2010
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@ manoftruth, about the USSR/ afghanistan thing you mentioned, the taliban were already around. they were just the muhadideen, or however you spell it. please stop generalizing Christianity as the religion that has caused all the problems because religious quarrels and terrorism existed way before Christianity was founded.

August 27, 2010
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I hate Muslims with pride.  It's telling that you choose to challenge me instead of the countless Muslims who have provably already translated their hate into violence.

 

This goes back to my "deal" with Nuria.  Prox was right - Muslims blame everyone but themselves for their own shortcomings.

August 27, 2010
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CreatedByGod wrote:

 

"Reading these comments I find the words of God so true - "The fool hath said in his heart, 'there is no God'."  ... I find it so absurd that intelligent people can actually believe that matter just spontaneously came together in an ordered fashion and then some of it suddenly came to life... so strange to have these living beings talk smack against The One who gave them their life..."

 

True, the jump from lifeless matter to organic life is still a mystery, but science is closing in on a rational theory.  Earth is a great petri dish, with its liquid water and relatively stable surface temperatures.  It is believed that some chemicals in early Earth may have inadvertently replicated themselves, establishing a reproductive pattern.  Reproduction is the prime component of life.  I am not a chemist or a biologist, but the articles I have read about this theory indicate such experts find such a replication occurrence well within the realm of possibility.  The spark that ingnited life may have been a fantastically unlikely occurrence, but the Earth is five billion years old, so life had plenty of time and opportunity to work with. 

 

If the above theory seems questionable to you, what alternative theory might you subscribe to?  You think a deity or deities created life on Earth?  What evidence to you have?  You have none, of course.  So you question reasonable scientific theory, but accept a religion's baseless explanation without question?  Who is the "fool?"

 

You ask why an atheist would talk smack against the being who created him.  You are assuming, as many wrongly do, that atheists really believe in god, they just reject him.  That is a silly misunderstanding of atheism.  Atheists do not believe in deities, so they do not believe they are rejecting or talking smack against anyone who is real.  If an atheist believed a god existed, he would, by definition, not be an atheist.

August 27, 2010
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oh, and whenever i bring up this verse to muslims (theres alot in bay ridge, brooklyn), my muslim acquaintances have no answer or just walk away. Manoftruth1, can u explain this away for me?

 

John 14:6 -Jesus saith unto them, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me.

 

What does Jesus mean by this?

August 27, 2010
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jtuck465 very good question. Seems the thread has died after your comment.

Devine intervention maybe? haha

August 27, 2010
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Query:  Why does the Quran say the Sun revolves around the Earth? . . .

 

1) "O And made the sun and the moon subservient. Each runs to a turns stated" (Al Quran, part 13, Sure Al-Ra'ad (The thunder)-13, V 2)

 

2) "And He made the sun and the moon subservient for you which are constantly moving" (Al-Quran, part 13, Sura Abraheem - 14, Verse 23)

 

3) And each (The moon the sun) is floating in an orbit." (Al-Quran, part 23, Sura Yaseen - 36, verse 140)

 

. . .

 

Answer:  Because it was not written by anyone who was divinely inspired, rather by seventh century mystic who lived before Copernicus.

August 27, 2010
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GoodAtheist

 

How could you not believe in God.  If everything in this world happend in spontaneous theory.  It would take more than 100 quadrillion years, which means impossible.

 

I will give you a theory, Evolution is the process in which creation took place but humans didnot evolve from apes.  It says in says in genesis days 1 to 7 clear states the formation of universe to creation of humans.  But the timing is misunderstood by us.  Each day to a supernatural being might be a billion years.  its all a relativity theory.  A life time of a bacteria is 20 minutes but for us 100yrs.  So lets believe in creavolution.

August 27, 2010
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Maebelle - it sounds like the novelty of converting to Islam is an experience you are enjoying at the moment, while you continue to live in a Western world where Sharia law does not exist.

 

Christianity underwent a division of Church and State.  Before that, Christianity held civic life hostage to the will of priests, who were as brutal and perverse as mullahs are today. After the  Renaissance, the Church lost its power over the civic life of people and Civil Law was established where religious edicts could not be enforced on people.  Islam has not undergone this change yet.  Consequently, Sharia law, exists side by side with Civil Law and has the power to overturn civil judgments in favor of religious ones which are invariably as medieval as the origins of the religion.  Religion, after all remains conservative.  Religion is not progressive, not science oriented, nor liberal.  Which is why it took the Catholic Church 400 yrs to declare the world was not flat after all.  Poor Galileo died for stating that scientific truth!  How can you expect anything better in Islam, than that same level of dogma and stupid thinking?

 

Now, you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Begum Maebelle because you live in a country that protects your rights.  I want to see how you would feel living a year in Afghanistan, or Pakistan, or Indonesia, or Saudi Arabia.  Go live there, with Muslims all around you and move from conceptual to practical experiences of your new religion.  I believe you are very naive.

 

Pakistan - a blind teenage house servant girl who was raped by her adult male employer was condemned to a public flogging for allowing herself to be raped.  The women revolted and took to the streets and her sentence was rescinded.  The man got nothing.

 

Afghanistan - Routine Stoning deaths of women who commit Adultery.  Accusers are all male, and its mostly made up to get even for some small act of independence by the woman.  Mass gas poisonings of girls and teachers in schools daily.  Acid thrown in the faces of girls who won't accept a suitor.  My younger sister had her bottom pinched by an Afghan in Calcutta where I grew up, on a crowded street.  She was 8 yrs old.  She ran after him and punched him in his groin hard.  He towered 6' 2" over her tiny frame.  He turned around and was about to strike her with an angry red face under his turban.  I screamed at him, the people formed a circle around us, and protected us from that pervert.  Allah ho akbar!

 

Yemen - 8 and 10 year old girls are married off to 33 yr old men who beat and rape them daily for years.  The parents, the neighbors, the police, the courts, all collude.  What a truly wonderful religion Maebelle!  Please go live in Yemen, and hand over your 8 yr old daughter when your husband decides to settle a debt with an old man and your daughter.  Allah ho akbar!!

 

Somalia, Iran - Religious police can jail you for clothing or music.  Widespread female genital mutilation - bye bye clitoris!

 

Indonesia - Entire nightclub full of tourists and the money they bring to the economy, blown up by Muslims.

 

India - Taj Hotel blown up by a group of Muslims from Pakistan.  I've seen madrassas on the street where some old Mullah was teaching 3 yr olds.  The ones that did not memorize the Quran properly were beaten by his stick.  I took the stick out of that bastard's hands and broke it in front of the kids and waved my fist at him, telling him if he hit another kid I'd break his skull.  That he understood, though he was shaking with rage a woman dared confront him.  The kids looked at me with wide eyes.  Their hero for the day.  Lovely people, the Muslims, aren't they?

 

Saudi Arabia - An Air India hostess saw a small girl of 13 crying on the plane beside what looked like her grandpa.  Turns out she was sold off to this 60 yr old sheik by her Muslim family in Hyderabad for a small sum and being taken forcibly to Saudi Arabia.  She immediately intervened and saved the girl and it made front page headlines.  She was not allowed to adopt the girl.  The girl was returned to parents and sold off to someone else.  Best parents in the world, aren't they?  Full body black covering in 120 F, women cannot drive, women must breastfeed a man if working alone with him to establish he's family.

 

USA - In my office, an educated Bangladeshi man in my computer dept, went back home, got married and brought his wife back.  She was illiterate.  I asked if he wanted some schooling for her to teach her how to read as she could not read even in her own language!!  He said, "No, she likes it like that!".  So did he.  He got himself a house domestic, sex slave, and someone completely dependent on him in every way.  Hurrah for equality and domestic slavery!

 

Do you hear this about Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity?  Now practice what you preach and go live there my dear woman, and send us some postcards of your new black outfits with screens for your eyes.

 

Y'all come back now, y'hear?

August 27, 2010
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Nichols,

haha you show your true hate colors. So what there was "no Palestinians". Does that mean it is OK to rob, kill and deport them?

You're not the humanist athiest that you're trying to come out as. You're Zionist warmonger.

Zionists = The Palestinians sold all their homes, shops, cities, farms, and lands to the peaceful Irgun & Hagana terrorists so then they live in refugee campls else where!!

Another simple fact: the Arab league has offered since 1990 (offically in 2002) Israel normal relations with all its 22 member states in return of recognizing Palestine right to exist in the West Bank & Gaza but Israel warmongers rejected the offer and started 3 wars (Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, and next will be Iran)

So once again, the Jewish Bible believers are blinded by their extremism and religious fundamentalism to accept peace with all their neighbours. Insreas they want to continue to settle "Judea & Sameria" illegally, by force, and with a brutal militery dictatorship means against all none-Jews who happen to live/own property the.

August 27, 2010
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patriot

 

hahahahahaha....u dont understand what the bible says. i am reading out of bible. u dont believe in bible ???google it and check the refrence

 

 

check these refrences also....i think its more a sex book...plz open ur bible and check the refrence...plzzzz check by your own eyes...BIBLE IS BIENG CORRUPTED.

 

Song of Solomon 7:6-8: "How beautiful and how delightful you are, my love, with all your charms! Your stature is like a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I said, 'I will climb the palm tree, I will take hold of its fruit stalks.' Oh, may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the fragrance of your breath like apples!"

 

Song of Solomon 3:1: "On my bed night after night I sought him whom my soul loves; I sought him but did not find him."

 

Song of Solomon 5:2: "I was asleep, but my heart was awake. A voice! My beloved was knocking; 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my perfect one!...'"

 

THERE ARE INNUMERABLE REFRENCES PLZZZZZ OPEN BIBLE AND CHECK WITH YOUOR OWN EYES.

 

Bible is being corrupted

 

Folllow Quran which is same and in 0rignal form from the day it was revealed.

 

 

 

 

 

August 27, 2010
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I think my Muslim friends should read their Prophet Isaiah and see how in 64:6 he said that "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags." Good works can not save because a holy God (or Allah for the Muslim's sake) can not look upon the sinful actions of a human.

 

The Muslim's prophet Moses said in Leviticus that for atonement, blood is required. 17:11, For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."

 

This is why Jesus died for the human race. Because only blood could atone, and that only of a pure sacrifice. He was the sinner's substitution.

 

I know Christians and Muslims argue about who it really was that Abraham almost sacrificed, Ishmael or Isaac. That's beside the point. As the son was about to die, God provided a substitute, a ram. Some 2,000 years later, a substitute was provided for mankind's sin on Mount Calvary. Funny coincidence, huh?

 

My Muslim friend, how will you enter the heaven of a holy God if your sins have not be atoned by blood? Think about it.

 

And if you're an atheist and reading all this, it must sound like a bull load of crap to you. Understandable. I respect your views. Just like I don't hate Muslims.

August 27, 2010
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@Minerva99:

 

Best. Post. Ever.

 

You have completely exposed the moral deficit and utterly trite foolishness of Maebelle's conversion.  Either she is in denial (a fool) or is hideously hard-hearted.

 

"How can you?" is the only viable question for her.

August 27, 2010
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Yeah, I abet terriorists because I believe in Allah.

Lmfao, what a joke.

 

Nicholsonjc, if you think being hating Muslims will seriously get you somewhere in life, I'm just going to die laughing right now.

Then you're all on Maebelle because you think you've done more than her in life.

What, now you think muslims are stupid as well?

 

I'm only 15 and I've had 3 published short stories, I play 5 sports and I've maintained a 4.00 GPA for the past 4 years. I'm in all honor classes and I plan on a lot in life. I can graduate high school a year early if I want, and not one person has ever told me that just because I'm muslim I can't do anything right or I'm a 'mental midget'.

Congrats, I think you're the first.

 

Whatever though. Think what you want, you obviously think that you're on top of the world.

You wish that people would get cancer just because of there religon? Wow, that's sad.

I wouldn't wish anything that horrid unless that person has harmed an innocent person.

Or maybe you don't know how harsh cancer is. Just maybe, seeing how small minded you are, there's a possiblity.

 

August 27, 2010
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Minerva, which anti-Islam hate site you copy and paste from?...to bring these incidents as proof against Islam is just plain stupid. There are many daily stories of rape, racism, discrimination, assualts against children, roberries, murders...etc in the US and all none-Muslim countries. Do those individual incidents porove Christianity, Hinduism, Budthism..etc are false and approve of these things?

Islam is mostly about monothiesm, praying to God alone, the Creator of all, God of Abraham. and then to stop injustiance, racism, hate, wars, bigotry, and slavery.

August 27, 2010
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Patriot00007, you say the "seven days" time period from Genesis is just misunderstood by us.  What else does "seven days" mean, other than seven rotations of the Earth, that is 168 hours?  When Genesis was written, people knew that a day means one rotation of the Earth.  If the writer of Genesis wanted to indicate, to an audience of his era, a longer period of time, he would not have used the word "days."  Why are you bending-over so far backwards to explain away what is a clear error in the Bible?  Just admit it, the Bible got it wrong.  That's not the only scientifically inaccurate thing in the Bible.

August 27, 2010
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"

 

jtuck465 very good question. Seems the thread has died after your comment.

 

Devine intervention maybe? haha"

 

I was tired of typing, myself.  But I will tell you what Muslims would say: the New Testament is corrupted.

 

It's their deus ex machina for handwaving away anything in Christian theology that contradicts what they believe about Issa.

August 27, 2010
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The question is How can you convert in 2001?

She is a traitor I tell you.  She converted while we were attacked by muslims on 9/11.

 

August 27, 2010
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@manoftruth1

"Israel warmongers rejected the offer and started 3 wars (Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, and next will be Iran)"

 

An out and out set of lies.  Iraq fired missiles at Israel.  Hezbollah fired missiles at towns in Israel.  Hamas fired missiles at towns in Israel.  All war crimes and illegal by any point of view.

 

Israel had every right to defend herself.

 

It is now Iran which is threatening war. 

August 27, 2010
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Truly you are the goddess of wisdom, Minerva.

August 27, 2010
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i still havent had a Muslim answer John 14:6 just like they have answered Nicholsonjc's question about that massacre being wrong. Sometimes you Muslims seem beat around the bush instead of straight up answering our questions like mature men or women.

August 27, 2010
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Judging just by the photos above the article, Islamic conversion is like a makeover that takes a decently-attractive woman, and makes here look creepy, ugly and sorely lacking in eyeshadow taste.

August 27, 2010
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@GoodAtheist

 

Those are two different people...

August 27, 2010
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promix,

you hang out too much in www.christian lies.com

 

August 27, 2010
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"I wouldn't wish anything that horrid unless that person has harmed an innocent person."

 

So I guess that elevated morality of yours means you would denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza at the hands of that illiterate bandit, thug, mass-murderer, slaver, and rapist of women and children known as Muhammad, right?

 

I take it back.   It's already too late for you.

 

I do know cancer first hand.  I was the pallbearer for a good friend who died at the age of 28 from cancer.

 

He would have had a wall toppled on him in the Mudslime world.  He was gay.

 

Do you think it's ok for people to be gay, Nuria?  Do you think it's Islamic for people to be gay, Nuria?

August 27, 2010
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GoodAtheist:

 

Good One

May I add the herpetic rash around her oral orifice.

Hmmmm wonder how she got that?

August 27, 2010
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Manoftruth1, if you were the emperor of the world, and had absolute power over all people on Earth, what would you do with the Jews living in Palestine?  Please give your answer, and then explain and justify your answer.

August 27, 2010
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"haha you show your true hate colors. So what there was "no Palestinians". Does that mean it is OK to rob, kill and deport them?"

 

Deport them?  Read your history.  Most of the Israeli Arabs were a Fifth Column who left Israel in 1948 of their own accord so that the Arabs could more easily push the Jews in to the sea.  Oops that plan backfired!

 

Israel would be idiots to allow those traitorous vermin back into their country.

August 27, 2010
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Nicols sounds like an angry gay man looking for a hug in the manhole gay bar but no one would give it to him because he grosses them out, so he spends his nights lonely bashing muslims to defuse his anger at his parents and at the world

August 27, 2010
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Ok, Nuria, you seem like a reasonable Muslim. What do you have to say about what your own Prophets Moses, Isaiah, and Jesus have said?

August 27, 2010
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check out this verse from bible

 

SONG OF SOLOMON 7:11-12

the woman says to the man:

 

     "Let us go to the countryside....

     Let us go early to the vineyards

          to see if their blossoms have opened,

          and if the pomegranates have bloomed.

              There I will give you my breasts.

 

PLZZZZ OPEN THE BIBLE AND CHECK WITH YOUR OWN EYES OR GOOGLE IT( TYPE THE REFRENCE ON GOOGLE IT WILL SHOW YOU...SONG OF SOLOMON 7:11-12

August 27, 2010
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I am getting tired.  Goodnight everybody.

 

Remember.  There are no such things as deities.

 

:-)

August 27, 2010
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"Another simple fact: the Arab league has offered since 1990 ..."

 

You fail to mention the partition plan that the Jews accepted in 1947 and the Arabs rejected.  Israel by every right should own everything from the West Bank to the Red Sea, but they gave most of it back after humiliating the backward Arab world both in 1948 and 1967.

 

Bomb the Egyptian air force when the planes were still on the ground! lololollololollollolollollol!

 

 

August 27, 2010
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@Nuria

 

Good for you Nuria that you are doing so well in school.  But soon someone will be approaching you to recruit to bomb us.  They seem to like engineers and doctors to blow ppl up.  It seems to be case in the canadian terror cell.

 

Its either they want to keep the woman uneducated or they want the educated women to be suicide bombers for some reason.

August 27, 2010
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Nichols,

so wait are you saying there were so many Palestinian people living in P A L E S T I N E in 1948 that they had to move to make room for invading Arab armies?

OK. well, thank you for admitting the land was thickly populated before the fundamentalist bible believing warmoner Zionist thieves invaded.

August 27, 2010
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"Nicols sounds like an angry gay man looking for a hug in the manhole gay bar but no one would give it to him because he grosses them out, so he spends his nights lonely bashing muslims to defuse his anger at his parents and at the world"

 

And you sound like a barely literate moron who is either fond of run-on sentences or has no idea now to avoid them.

August 27, 2010
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No, I am saying that there were Arabs in Israel who left Israel to avoid being harmed in what they were thinking was an impending genocide against the Jews.

August 27, 2010
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Nicolks, so do you denounce the Goldestone Report that convicted Israel for war crimes and crimes against humanity for using children as human shields, bombing UN schools full of women and children, mosques full of worshipers during prayer time and brutally murdering elders waiving white flags in cold blood????

August 27, 2010
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@manoftruth1,

You sprout nothing but lies. Either that, or you get your history from your Imam lol.

 

Jews are not 'fundamentalist bible believing.' Jews reject half of the Bible, the New Testament. The same part you reject.

 

Dude, you cant even get the basics of history and religion right.

August 27, 2010
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Google this phrase -

 

The Two-State Solution is 87 Years Old

 

- and learn a thing or two.

August 27, 2010
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Another passage against sex for the young is 8:8-9:

BIBLE SAYS

 

in chapter

SONG OF SOLOMON 8:8-9

     "We have a young sister,

     and her breasts are not yet grown.

               What will we do for our sister...?

          If she is a wall,

               we will build silver towers on her.

          If she is a door,

               we will enclose her with cedar panels."

 

 

CHECK OUT IN BIBLE....ITS BEING TOTALLY CORRUPTED

if i am lying then check the refrence

SONG OF SOLOMON 8:8-9

August 27, 2010
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Worship1God

 

You are seriously a retard.  The word breast their means the heart.  It means love.  I dont think you hate mongerers would understand.  The old testament was written in hebrew.  So now you are going to say that mohamed did all the perverted things because it was written in the solomons songs.

August 27, 2010
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Nichols, hahaha, how would they be harmed if they were not the target of the genocide? makes sense! lol...Zionist logic cracks me up!

You're right though, they did escape the genocide being excuted by your Hagana & Irgun terrorist buddys.

August 27, 2010
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"Nicolks, so do you denounce the Goldestone Report"

 

Yes, I most certainly denounce it.  Israel bends over backward more than any of her nation-state critics would to avoid harm to her sworn mortal enemies.

 

I also denounce the so-called Palestinians who purposely place their children in harm's way.  It is the Arab world who employs human shields.

 

That was an easy one.  Give me a hard one - something on par with getting a Muslim, any Muslim, to denounce the massacre of the Banu Qurayza.

 

That seems to be a monumental task.

 

August 27, 2010
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OHHH MANNNNNNNN   I THINK I AM READING A SEX BOOK INSTEAD OF BIBLE.....if i am lying plz check out these refrences

 

read SONG OF SOLOMON chapter and check these verses, i am giving refrences to each verse...PLZ OPEN BIBLE AND CHECK...PLZZZZZZZZZZ

 

 

 

"Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine." A fitting beginning for a pornographic poem. 1:2

"He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts."  1:13

"I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." 2:3

"His left hand is under my head and his right hand doth embrace me." She asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 2:6-7

Our heroine takes her lover into her mother's bedroom and asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 3:4-5

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 4:5

"Come ... blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits." 4:16

"My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him." 5:4

"My hands dropped with myrrh.... I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself." 5:5-6

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 7:1-3

"How pleasant art thou, O love, for delights! ... Thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine." 7:6-8

"Let us get up early to the vineyards ... there will I give thee my loves." 7:12

"His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.... Stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please." 8:3-4

"We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts ... But my breasts are like towers." 8:8-10

August 27, 2010
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@manoftruth1,

 

I love Muslims, because that's what a Christian ought to do, take the high road. Muslims do stupid stuff (really stupid stuff I gotta admit.), but so does everyone else. So do I.

 

But do you know why I have no respect for Muslims? Because when presented with fact and truth or perfectly fine questions, they more often than not, in my experience,do not answer. They just run away and say silly little things like 'zionist' a dozen times.

 

Goodnight. I'm tired

August 27, 2010
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Nickols, so you're saying Israel should continue to brutalize the Palestinians and deny their basic political and human rights and continue to rule them as the aparthied militery dictatorship that it is?

Well, that's fine, if it is what you believe. But do not then claim the high morals horse and claim to be athiest because you hate religions' wars. Because after all you believe in Israel's wars. The real reason you might be athiest is probably because you prayed and prayed to god and he never answered your pathetic ugly soul.

August 27, 2010
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"... how would they be harmed if they were not the target of the genocide?"

 

What kind of idiot hangs out in a war zone? Have you never heard of the fog of war?  Have you never heard of artillery? 

 

You're attempting to deny established history, history your darling "Palestinians" would back up themselves.  They left their homes so that the invading Arab armies would have worry-free access to the Jewish vermin.

August 27, 2010
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oh, and manoftruth1, if your Allah has had to allegedly show your own soul mercy, doesnt that reveal that you are a pathetic, ugly soul, too? so why call nicols a ugly soul if you are too?

 

Manoftruth1 -


> religous hypocrisy at its finest.

August 27, 2010
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OHHH MANNNNNNNN   I THINK I AM READING A SEX BOOK INSTEAD OF BIBLE.....if i am lying plz check out these refrences

read SONG OF SOLOMON chapter and check these verses, i am giving refrences to each verse...PLZ OPEN BIBLE AND CHECK...PLZZZZZZZZZZ

"Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine." A fitting beginning for a pornographic poem. 1:2

"He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts."  1:13

"I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." 2:3

"His left hand is under my head and his right hand doth embrace me." She asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 2:6-7

Our heroine takes her lover into her mother's bedroom and asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 3:4-5

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 4:5

"Come ... blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits." 4:16

"My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him." 5:4

"My hands dropped with myrrh.... I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself." 5:5-6

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 7:1-3

"How pleasant art thou, O love, for delights! ... Thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine." 7:6-8

"Let us get up early to the vineyards ... there will I give thee my loves." 7:12

"His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.... Stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please." 8:3-4

"We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts ... But my breasts are like towers." 8:8-10

August 27, 2010
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I defend Israel not because of religion, but because Israel is the only home for the Jewish people, and because Israel is the only truly secular democratic state in that area of the world.

 

There are Arab members of the Knesset.  Arabs enjoy freedoms in Israel that they would enjoy in no Arab country.

 

The so-called Palestinians could share in that freedom if they would recognize the right to exist of a Jewish state just like all the myriad Arab states.  Instead they launch Qassam rockets.

 

Palestinians deserve anything they get.  I only wish Israel was have as draconian as Muslims and self-hating liberals make them out to be.

August 27, 2010
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worship1god

 

seriously i hope you are not jacking off to the solomons songs, because you are seriously misinterpreting the verses.

August 27, 2010
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Nichol, haha, no estbalish history. Just Zionist propaganda..The estbalished history is that after te partition plan, Jewish militias started ethnically cleansing by terror and massacers the territory given to them by the UN. The UN never said either party is allowed to do that. After Israel made some 400,000 Palestinians refugees, the Arab armies had no choice but to interfer to stop the madness and the humantarian disaster taking place in their countries. Seeing the flooed of refugees and Zionists' well armed militia and numbers, The Arab armies asked the Palestinians to stay put and defend their lands.

C'mon even Israeli middle school history books have been changed recently to at least spell the fact that the Palestnians were forced out. But your're so blinded by your hate and ideaology that you see what you want to see.

You never answered me. Do you denoucce the Goldestone Report for condemning Israeli proven atrocities?

August 27, 2010
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@Patriot0007

 

Thank you.(:

I can promise you one thing. Never in my life am I going to 'bomb' innocent people because of my religon.

And I can also reassure you that no one will come up to me and ask me to do that. I've been living in America for my whole life and I am going to be living here for the rest of my life. Most muslims who actually think before they act don't think like that. I've never met a Muslim that wanted to bomb any where. Sure, there are some people that i've met who don't like everyone in this country, but thats there thoughts, not mine.

 

I am an American, and I wouldn't do anything like that if my life depended on it.

August 27, 2010
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The Song of Solomon is a poem of the love of a husband for his wife.

Do you guys have a problem with a husband

and wife making love? God doesnt have a problem with it.

It also has a spiritual side to it, which

im sure you guys dont get.

August 27, 2010
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patriot

hahahahahaha...do u understand english ??? do u have a bible or not ??? what kind of christian are you...i am having bible in front of me, I am giving you the references of BIBLE....hahaha...its hard to swallow truth

 

you dont know Bible...HAHAHAHAHAHA

August 27, 2010
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@jtuck465

 

Lol, thanks.

 

Like I said like, 5 times before, I'm 15. I've only read so many little quotes from each of them, but honestly, I don't see antyhing wrong.

August 27, 2010
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well folks, now that I proved Nichols is a fake, hate and  warmonger, who condemns a report written by Goldestone who is not Muslim nor Arab but actually Jewish (he's been shut away by his community since he wrote the report). In addition he denies the well-established Israeli brutal militery aparthied dictatorship against the Palestenans (he calls it democracy lol), as documented by western human rights groups (Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International,..etc). In addition he advocates/supports the massacer of the Palestnians. And he agrees with Israeli decsion to bulldoze 22 year old American girl Rachel Corri to death.

I have proved that he's morally and intellectually broke.

My job is done. Good night folks.

August 27, 2010
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I take the high road in everything I do but I must say this. Religious Ed. is my degree and Islam made sense to me.

 

I do not choose to stoop to the level of those who judge, as some of you may. In the end that is left for God to do, and God alone. The problem I see with the bible are the revisions. If you look at why King James re-wrote the bible...well it is plain scary.

 

I choose to follow the Torah & Quran because they simply are more "organic" for if the Quran was re-written "off with your head" and as archaic as that sounds I'd rather to follow a Book written by God & transcribed by man that both written and transcribed several times over. Havent you ever played telephone as a kid?!

 

Nonetheless, THIS IS WHAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON.

 

Eddie and I both served together for this great country. He still is in Afghanistan as an Airborne Ranger with a staff position...you are in underwear watching TV - and we're the traitors?!

 

While you folks bicker back and forth I ask you this...if you're so fond of your one (perfect, mine is better) religion...why don't you go back to YOUR country?

 

Exactly my point.

August 27, 2010
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@Worship1God

 

I am pretty sure, you are googleing right now with words such as breast, penis, vagina and so on.  You seriously are immature sir.  Please understand that solomons songs are a poem written to his wife by a husband.  Moral sexuality is a part of human beings existence.  So there is nothing wrong with embracing that moral sexuality.  But a 50 yr old grandpa marrying an 8 yr old child, that's immoral.

August 27, 2010
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hi GoodAtheist,

 

Quran never mention the sun revolving around planet earth!

Earth did rotate when the Quran said the mountain runs as the cloud runs....

Read Quran you will see mass energy equivalent theory, time dilation theory, UFOs, biodiesel, oil under the ocean bed, space exploration, radio wave, big bang theory, galaxies, goodness of breast feeding and many more.

Look and you will find it

August 27, 2010
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@Halimaziz

 

If mass energy equivalent theory, time dilation theory, UFOs, biodiesel, oil under the ocean bed, space exploration, radio wave, big bang theory, galaxie are written in the Quran.  Then why it is a Christian nation or person that seem to be unfolding these mysteries.

 

Shouldn't there be a Muslim nation or person be able to interpret the quran and tell us what theory we haven't unfolded yet. Dont you think this might help humanity.

 

OOps or is it perhaps you are interpreting the verses to corelate a theory we have already unfolded.  Can you please kindly give me a new invention like internet that mentioned in the quran, I would like to be the next Bill Gates.

August 27, 2010
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@Maebelle

 

Stop thinking with your emotions and think straight with your head.  Bible was composed by many authors and put together as one book.  But Quran was composed solely by one author and his credibility is in question.  If one person writes a book it will be consistent because he is author for all chapters.  But Bible is so unique that all are written by different authors yet it doesn't contradict each other.

 

Therefore i would believe in a bible anyday instead of a Quran.  If i sat down and took verses from torah, bible and quran interpreted and wrote it.  It will be much more appealing than Quran. 

August 27, 2010
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PATRIOT doesnt know Bible hahahahaha

 

 

read SONG OF SOLOMON chapter and check these verses, i am giving refrences to each verse...PLZ OPEN BIBLE AND CHECK...PLZZZZZZZZZZ

"Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine." A fitting beginning for a pornographic poem. 1:2

"He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts."  1:13

"I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." 2:3

"His left hand is under my head and his right hand doth embrace me." She asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 2:6-7

Our heroine takes her lover into her mother's bedroom and asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 3:4-5

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 4:5

"Come ... blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits." 4:16

"My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him." 5:4

"My hands dropped with myrrh.... I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself." 5:5-6

"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." 7:1-3

"How pleasant art thou, O love, for delights! ... Thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine." 7:6-8

"Let us get up early to the vineyards ... there will I give thee my loves." 7:12

"His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.... Stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please." 8:3-4

"We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts ... But my breasts are like towers." 8:8-10

 

 

BIBLE IS CORRUPTED, ITS NOT IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM...BIBLE IS REVISED SO MANY TIMES TO REMOVE ERRORS BUT QURAN IT HAS 0NLY 1 VERSION AND WILL REAMIN SAME TILL THE END OF THE WORLD. THERE ARE THOUSANDZ OF HUFFAZ WHO MEMORISE QURAN.BUT NOT EVEN 1 CHRISTIAN HAVE MEMORISED WHOLE BIBLE.

 

 

THINK ABOUT IT....MAY GOD GUIDE YOU TO THE CORRECT RELIGION

August 27, 2010
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Worship1god

and how many versions of the Quran are there?

20 from what i can easily find, and 7 different versions are refered to in the Hadith.

Dont be a hypocrite

August 27, 2010
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Worship1God:

 

Seriously you have completely proven to me you are moron sir.  There is no need to memorise something that is already written and can be referenced as you please.  You morons have forgotten that after the coming of Christ only one commandment matter, that is love one and another as i have love you.  If you follow this commandment all the other commandment will fall into place by itself.  We have received the salvation in Jesus Christ and our sins are forgiven. 

 

Yet you morons think that follwing the quran, fasting during ramadan and killing innocent ppl is going to forgive your sins and god is going to accept you into his kingdom.  Are you really that stupid, come on ppl open your eyes and see what the quran is doing to you.

Everyone in this world is a sinner, yet you don't know how to obtain your salvation.

 

Stop following the the book that was written by a barbarian and come in to world of christ, who sacrificed his life for our salvation.  You will advance into the next millenium with love, hope and peace.  Renounce violence, hate, barbarism and jihad.

 

Peace

August 27, 2010
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COLDSTEAL

hahaha you are the another1, May Allah give u guidance

 

THERE IS JUST 1 ARABIC QURAN MY DEAR...which was revealed to Prophet MOHAMMED(peace b upon him). and it has been send to all humanity. and it will remain the same till the end of the world...i think you also dont know about Quran. try to read it..I am sure you will enter ISLAM...May Allah guide you all towards righteousness .

 

i am leaving now.bye

August 27, 2010
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Patriot0007,

For reasons we all understand muslims nations world wide are backward. muslims are not united and are fighting against each other. this partly caused the backwardness.

so no scientific discoveries are made till today. but muslims must work hard and united to contribute to

mankind.

biodiesel theory was discovered in malaysia back in 1980s.from palm oil biodiesel is produced..

August 27, 2010
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So whats the big fuss if she has converted to Islam, why you guys think that you are standing on higher moral grounds and will keep perching everyone to accept your beliefs, how much you guys are following your own beliefs. Jesus said to love every one and give other cheek if some one hit on one. Is that what you guys are following, with all those hate and name calling you still believe that you are better then others. Do you see yourself and your leaders in past had done any crime at all. Have you ever pondered what we had done in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and even to our native Indian population. Do you see any Pastor or Rabi even you anything wrong with that, condemning the crimes or you see them like Pat Robertson, Hague who are keep preaching hatred against others day after day. Do you know that we had looted, raped and leveled a country called Iraq and killed millions without having any proof that they were any connection with 911, had you ever pondered that how we ethnically cleansed the native American Indian and sent them to reservation without any remorse, had you ever had any sympathy how we destroyed and killed millions in Vietnam, had you thought about how we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki and killed hundreds of thousands of Innocent women and children, have you forgot the brutal slavery we imposed on blacks and killed them in millions, what right you have to tell others and preach them. Have you ever thought the brutal colonization of the world and looting and plundering the poor nations. the list of crimes gets longer and longer and still you ignorant think that you are on higher moral grounds your religion and faith are better and your systems and moral authority are better then other.

Had you voiced against the war crimnals who are roaming freely and who had killed millions and still they can get away with it like bush and chenny. Had you ever pondered who had commited 911 in your country and how world trade building number 7 collapased without any plane hitting it, a 47 story steel construction building crumbled to ground in a demolition style with just small fires. Have you ever voiced or had any concern about the courpt bankers who looted the country by TRILLIONS, Had you show any concern about the War Proffier PANTAGON, where 2 trillion of tax payers money is missing just like 2 cents are lost and there is no voice or concern any where. If You care about the country then do you know that this country gives religious freedom to everyone. Who you are listening to, who is giving words to your mounth, are not they are Zionit media controlled by few people. Wakeup Amaricans before this country is destroyed. The biggest strength of Amarica is its diversity, we are destroying the diversity of Amarica by hating with each other. The Political system is corupt to its bone, the two parties are nothing but one party.

Nobody cares of American people, the media is just feeding to your ignorance. Lets talk some real issues in the country. You forgot Katrina when the American people were ignored in flood and desastor, the war profiteer Pentagon doesn't care about American, they want war keep going on.  Had you seen any cry in media when we give trillions of tax pair dollars to corrupt bankers. WAKE UP American, lets talk real issue, lets clean our own backyard, let save our own country, the country is invaded by Parasites who are killing it from inside. There is no enemy outside the enemy is hidden within us with big voice in media and supported by corrupt bankers.

August 27, 2010
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Worship1God: hahaha you are the another1, May Allah give u guidance

THERE IS JUST 1 ARABIC QURAN MY DEAR...which was revealed to Prophet MOHAMMED(peace b upon him). and it has been send to all humanity. and it will remain the same till the end of the world...

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One man, Mohammed writes the Quran, that is contradictory to the many revelations given to many prophets in the Jewish/Christian Bible.

 

The Old and New Testaments in the Bible, though written by different authors and spanning centuries, complement each other. And that is trustworthy.

 

Quran on the other hand is written by one man Mohammed, who at the early stages feared that he was receiving revelations from Satan. So, much that he tried to kill himself. This story was the inspiration for Salman Rushdie's novel, Satanic Verses.

 

Quran has been edited several times to remove references to the Arabian Moon god (al-ilah) and his three daughters.

 

Yusuf Ali explains in fn. 5096, pg. 1445, that Lat, Uzza and Manat were known as “the daughters of God Allah

 

 

Quran 53: 19. Have ye seen Lát. and Ùzza,

20. And another, the third (goddess), Manát?

(21-22: These are the exalted intermediaries who intercession is to be hoped for - these two passages have been removed).

 

Need I say more about the integrity of the Quran !!!

 

 

 

August 27, 2010
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CASPIANSEA99: what the Quran is stating there, are the beliefs that idol worshipers had at that time. READ on and you will understand that the true message is GOD is one and ONLY and that intercession of idols will not be accepted.

 

 

August 27, 2010
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CASPIANSEA99: "Yusuf Ali explains in fn. 5096, pg. 1445, that Lat, Uzza and Manat were known as “the daughters of God Allah”

 

What they were known as and what they were are 2 different things. You are known as a moron by many. Does that make it true?

August 27, 2010
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Women like Kszremski are traitors to their gender, their culture and their daughters.  Everywhere there is Islam, there is is mistreatment of women - frequently brutal, arbitrary and gratuitously cruel.Period. Meanwhile, while women suffer horribly under Islam, happy little headscarf wearing American girls think they are being oh-so-Godly (and spirit fashionistas). As said in earlier comments, Kszremski should go live in an Islamic state for a while and see how she really likes Islam. Let her accidently show an ankle in Saudi Arabia and get the s*** beat out of her by the imams.  The Quaran is violent, as is the Bible.  They're all the same to me.  God is a man; what he says regarding the role/place of women is divinely mandated, and women are the property of men here on earth, - Yahweh conveniently says so, whether you are Jew, Christian or Islamic. They are all viruses, but Islam by far the most virulent.  Headscarf/hijab/burqa-wearing women put my daughter at risk for tyranny.  They put my yet-to-be-born grandaughters and greg-grandaughters at risk. 

August 28, 2010
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Don't paint all Muslims with the same broad brush, they are very diverse. To HoustonMom, it's not right to say that Muslims are killers. I'm not sure you really believe that, I hope you don't because it simply isn't true.

 

I'm a university professor too, I teach Management. What would you do if you had Muslim students? Would you behave differently towards them, see them as monsters?When I see that I was able to make a difference in my students' lives I feel that I was an effective member of society. I stay in touch with my students and try to help them in these tough economic times with their careers. I try my best to help my students be able to compete globally and keep the US as the leader in innovation and technology. When I do that, I feel that I'm making a difference. I truly believe in the American dream and I do my best to preserve it for upcoming generations.

 

We might have different believes, but that's what makes this country a great country. I disagree with what you said, but I support your right to say it. This is what our founding fathers intended and this is what preserves the American way of life.

 

Now regarding your comment about guys/lesbians, I do have friends who are guys and lesbians and I don't have a problem with that.

August 28, 2010
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All the debate about Muslims and terrorism is about fear of the unknown.  Few people know little about the average Muslim, myself included, but I'm not going to judge all Muslim people due to the acts of .0000001% of the Muslim population. Hell, I know plenty of Christians who might be considered terrorists had they been Muslims themselves.

August 29, 2010
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  To all the converts to Islam Just ask any Muslim why they  stared to deny the Hadeeth (Islamic books about the life of Mohamad) that sayes Mohamd was only rubbing his penis between Aisha legs when she was only 6 years old and she cant take it. R U going to belieave in a child molester as a prophet of God??

August 31, 2010
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Jazakum Allah Kher Sister.

September 1, 2010
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Who ever said lies and defame the prophet of Allah will see the curse on him during his life time, this is a decree that has come true in the past and will come true in the life of the Hippocrates InsaAllah (god willing). The sign of hypocrites are when ever they talk they talk filth, they defame pious men and they talk lie and create doubts in people's mind.

September 5, 2010
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i dont understand allah ,i dont understand why he will reward some one who goes around killing in his name and what make it worse, he reward them with forty two virgins . is he having some kind of heavenly orgy up their in heaven with these heavenly angels,and why would allah do or allow these criminals to mingle with his angelic virgins.i can see why these lonely young people  can get sucker into this false world of perverted hope.rather than have a few wives on earth.i tell you what, if any one is going to kill for the virgins in heaven .i will trade you, dont kill and i will give you some american whores instead,and let us live in peace

September 5, 2010
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with god its simple, he is mysterious and no respecter of men. he god is the  eternal light made up of pure love and with satan he is antithetical to god he loves hatred pain violence and death .this is how you know ,if one is of god or the devil.there are good  people in every race and religion they pray with love and goodness for their fellow men.and their praise are like sweet essence to god.like all rivers lead to one sea so also all good and loving religion leads to one god. 

September 5, 2010
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the greatest love story ever untold.in the beginning was god and he was alone and he was lonely so he made unto himself the most beautiful angel ever created .and he called her lucy.and he god was pleased and happy.then one day lucy began to become bored and unhappy.so she confronted  god and god give her a son and called him prince of peace.and lucy was filled with joy and the lord also was happy for her.and as time went by lucy began to become unhappy once again .and confronted god so god created the angels of heaven to serve her.once again lucy was happy and god was happy for her.then one day lucy became unhappy and conspired with the other angels to confront god to share power equal .and god said to lucy .i have given you every thing but this one thing you ask i cannot do .because i am god and i must keep the majority power .so lucy accused god of not loving her and plotted with the other angels to over throw god.but michael and gabriel sided with god and cast lucy and  her followers out of heaven. now lucy knew of god and his garden of eden with adam and eve so lucy in her anger showed adam and eve the secret of the forbidden fruit .and they partake.when god came down to earth he saw adam hiding .and he asked adam what he had done and he adam said lucy told him the fruit was good and god did not want them to be happy.so they ate the fruit.then god confronted lucy and asked if this was true and lucy replied in heaven you say that you are the man and the man is in charge so from hence forth you shall no longer call me lucy but you shallnow call me lucifer because down here on earth i am the man and i am in charge .and god was hurt and weep for lucy .until one day the son j/c could not see the father suffer no more so he came to give his life for his mother and the fallen angels and us humans .this is the untold story of love and redemption, for this reason it was written thine will be done on earth as in heaven,

September 6, 2010
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'JusticeForAll',

 

Did you ever sing that song 'Amazing Grace'?

Do you know it was written by a slave trader?

It's often the experiences of the individual that provide the insight for understanding.

Whether we follow an idea or a belief is something better left to what we feel in our hearts.

I personally do not believe in organized faith. It tends to create a bias for people of our own faiths, creating a false sense of division where there is none.

I do believe, however, that there are tenents of all of the faiths which are worthy of being followed, not because someone told me they were the rules, but because they are a part of who I am. The written word is but a description and will never fully express who we are in the moment.

Here are some of the wonderful teachings of the great faiths of the world;

 

Buddhism, Taoism,etc. says that we should respect all others and treat them as equals.

Sufism (Islam) says that being in heaven is to walk in the light (be at peace with one's self).

Christianity teaches us that we should treat others as we would have them treat us.

 

How could you have so much hate and distrust for such simple truthes?

September 6, 2010
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Profesorjery,

 

If a man tells a story from the perspective of God, or let's say 'all that is' do you think he can really do the awesomeness and wonder of God which is always in harmony and without judgemnt; do you think he would do God justice? Could he do justice to the ever-changing, ever-forgiving nature of God?

Or would he merely be recanting the stories he's told himself about his illusion of separation from God(All That Is)?

Are you sure that the man who wrote the story that you refer to is capable of describing all of God's ways with man-made words that are static and reflective in nature?

September 7, 2010
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I was reluctant to post any comment on this issue because I believe that the posting of the topic was distasteful in the first place.  The conversion of Mrs. Maebelle and her convictions is a personal relationship between her and God and it should have stayed that way. Instead she opened herself to the scrutiny of prejudice and in many cases uneducated people and inevitably rude remarks.

The ignorance about one specific issue is what compelled me to write.  That issue is that Islam was never a religion that forced people to adopt its teachings but rather left it to the conviction of each person and their own beliefs. 

 

Three great religions arose in the Middle East, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  All three religions are based on the belief in only ONE GOD.  Because Islam recognized Christian and Jewish prophets, many people lived and integrated within the Islamic territories that spoke dozens of different languages and followed many ways of life and religions. 

 

Unlike some Christian civilizations that persecuted their own fellow Christians, The Islamic Empire at its peak acknowledged the right of others to practice their faith.  The hold was that any member of the non-Muslim groups who did not CHOOSE to adopt Islam could instead pay a tax to the Muslims.  “Freedom of Choice” is the key word.  At the height of its power Islam permitted the freedom of faith and did not force any people to convert to Islam.

 

In contrast Christians denied their peoples that same freedom.  In Europe, many people believed that their religion was the only true faith.  Quite often rulers in Catholic countries in Europe PUNISHED people who converted to protestant and visa versa.  Many Jews in Europe also suffered for their beliefs.  Some rulers for example in Spain FORCED Jews to convert to Christianity.  Jews who refused to become Catholic were TORTURED and JAILED.

 

During the Renaissance, most rulers in Europe believed that they had the right to tell people what to believe.  If a ruler changed his religion for whatever reason the people had to accept the new religion!  In England, King Henry VIII decided to break away from the Catholic Church and started his own Church of England.  King Henry ORDERED all the people in England to join his church.  Those who did not follow were KILLED or had their land CONFESCATED.  Thomas More, one of King Henry’s friends and the author of Utopia refused and Henry had him EXECUTED.

 

The next three rulers that followed were all Henry’s children.  Edward a protestant who persecuted Catholics, then Mary a Catholic who persecuted protestants and before the end of her rule nearly 300 people had been PUT TO DEATH for remaining true to their protestant beliefs.  The last child was Elisabeth who followed the English church and Catholics were in turn PERSECUTED again.

 

Personally, I would rather pay Taxes.

 

September 7, 2010
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All men and woman are children of God. Whether you believe in sin or not, life goes on. Guilt is a feeling, a warning. It's not an object that we carry with us. The past is done. Stop believing that the past is the cause of the present. Forgive yourself and others their mistakes and live in the moment where everything is being created.

If you want peace, accept the grace of God, and do what you would do if it already existed(which it does). If you find peace, you'll be able to share it with others.

If you choose violence then you will not leave the battlefield until you dream of peace and see it your mind.

If you're going to criticize a religion, perhaps you could come up with a better way for people to discipline themselves to maintain an awareness of the individual as a part of whole in the moment.

Just a warning, it can be pretty frightening to face up to the fact that what you believe in is all an illusion. The hate and anger that you feel are the result of your ties to the past. Know yourself before you assume that you know others. Clearly what you see in others is what you see in yourself.

 

We are one. Know yourself and you'll know God.

September 22, 2010
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as a muslim, I do not consisder myself a child of God because God's principle quality is that he is not begotten and does not beget...I am a slave of Gode the first with no start and the last with no end...we are all creatures of God, so slaves that must obey him and love him and follow the statements he gave to his prophets...the fact that we are his slaves means that we will have to pay for our sins and Jesusis not God to wash our sins...in the holy koran and the very genuine bible sent to jesus, god asks him: Jesus, did yiou ask your people to worship you and your mother mary instead of God? Jesus answers, Oh no God preseve me from such a thing, you know me more than I know you, you know what there in my deepest soul... which means that as Jesus denies categoricaly saying such a thing to his people.

weel, this is my view as it is the one of islam, i DO NOT INTEND TO SHOCK BELIEVERS whom I respect deeply, but the fact is that Jesus in Islam had many miracles: creating birds, resucting deads, healing blinds,speechless people ect... but he was not crucified by jewish, not at all crucified,I tell you this good news: he was saved by God by bringing someone that resembles jesus and jews took him for jesus and crucified him...you can verify this story in the holy koran because jesus will be the saviour of humanity peace be upon him but he is the prophet of god no more no less and his mother mary  peace be upon her was a saint virgin...see Mary in the holy koran...so I do not think it is fair to put the burden of our sins on jesus because every one should pay for his or her sins...god preserve us...

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