Thursday, September 30, 2010
Daily conversations: Thursday, September 30

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The Rutgers suicide story has people talking. In addition to reacting to the specific facts of this case, we are hearing a lot about gay bullying. Unfortunately, a handful of posters feels it’s okay to post gay bashing comments on this story.

 

Also people are remembering actor Tony Curtis, who died at age 85.  iReporer Chris Morrow interviewed Curtis last year and was quoted in the article.  We loved this comments from concisekwell:  “I've always believed there is no such thing as old movies, just great films you haven't seen yet.”

 

And Tour de France champ, Alberto Contador, is getting a lot of attention. He’s rejecting the results of a drug test that says he tested positive for a banned substance during the latest Tour de France. Our commenters are having a hard time buying his explanation.

 

Thursday stats

Comments:             12,233

Commenters:             5,037

Likes:                        50,087

 

Stories you're talking about:

Some comments have been edited for length and clarity

 

Student's apparent suicide linked to webcast of sexual encounter

1,927 comments and 1,946 Facebook shares

 

racemunki:

I know that this is an ever increasingly interconnected world at your finger tips, but damn! The person's who taped him should have the book thrown at them. Even if you don't agree with someone's views, beliefs, etc., there are just some lines that you don't cross regardless. I truly feel for this kids parents. No pity for the ones who did it. Sorry all. Some things are just black and white.

 

Cocobabymoch:

The way he felt so despondent really bothers me. Those two grown students are responsible for his death!!!

 

nelco:

It only shows that being "gay" has nothing to be proud about as some weirdoes pretend. By the way they should called themselves something else than "gay"; What about "pathetics"?

 

chancie:

You have no idea how hard it is for a young gay person to accept who they are, especially when they have not had access to a strong support community and find adversity everywhere they turn. Put yourself in his shoes.

 

thisisours:

Have you ever walked into a high school? Were you home-schooled? The world is a tough, tough place. People are not always nice. You cannot kill yourself because someone violated your privacy. Did Erin Andrews throw herself off a bridge? No. His suicide was NOT the roommate's fault. His roommate is definitely wrong and should be punished for the crime he committed, but he did not cause this student to kill himself. You're wrong. If you can't imagine "the horror" of public humiliation... you're living in the clouds.

 

josekjar:

Even though I'm very unsupportive of the gay movement, videotaping someone to harass them is just wrong. Sounds like this wasn't the first time those 2 gave this kid a hard time. Its just messed up.

 

leeyie:

The Bible teaches us that being gay is immoral.

 

Bubbleicious:

This should be prosecuted as a hate crime. In his online postings Dharun Ravi makes it clear that the reason he is filming Clementi is because Clementi is having a homosexual encounter and Ravi wants to publicly humiliate and embarrass him. This is a clear case of gay-bashing and should be deemed a hate crime and prosecuted as such.

 

Beingone:

Well being gay, you're already ostracized by society and generally considered less by your peers/others, and at his age, extremely sensitive about who he is and his private life.... He looks like a wonderful kid with a great future, and its all thrown away from somebody else's callousness. I'm sickened.

 

Movie star Tony Curtis dead at 85

130 comments and 1,959 Facebook shares

 

Steve2451:

He was cool and had style.

 

Guest5303:

He wasn't arrogant but to some he might have appeared to be. He was a very good actor who could be serious and funny. We really liked him in both "Operation Petticoat" with Cary Grant and "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe & Jack Lemmon. Our sympathies go out to his family.

 

MojaveDon:

I really enjoyed Tony's work in the "The Great Race." His teeth would sparkle everytime he smiled. Rest in Peace, Tony.

 

Calabasas:

It's a pity there was no mention in the press release of the financial support he provided to restore the Dohany Temple in Budapest, Hungary, to honor the Hungarian Jews who died during the Holocaust of World War II.

 

concisekwill:

Even though the roles he played in were far before my time, I've always believed there is no such thing as old movies, just great films you haven't seen yet. I've seen several movies he stared in and he was really a great actor. His skills displayed the fact that acting is truly an art when those doing it have real passion


Contador rejects positive dope test

213 comments and 1,060 Facebook shares

 

globaldecay:

Daniel Frebe is a liar. Clenbuterol isn’t a steroid. It doesn’t boost muscle mass, it metabolizes fat and thereby reduces body weight. It acts like a more potent and longer lasting form of adrenaline by increasing oxygen transport and aerobic capacity. Except for it being banned (and dangerous), this would be exactly the type of drug a hill climbing specialist would take. And, it is also a drug that would dissipate in the body after a day or two making detection more difficult.

 

buck0five:

Bull meat... doesn't he mean bull sh!t. Another cyclist busted for cheating and all he can say is it was bad meat. Guess it's only cheating if you get caught.

 

TWAL:

Do they actually think anyone is buying their stories? Seriously -- the whole sport dopes and Astana has been riddled with doping problems for the last 3 or 4 years. If the UCI had told him Eddie Merckx was the only one who didn't test positive, then he would have said, "Of course he was the only one that didn't eat the meat."

 

Sofrito:

This is news? Everybody knows cyclists dope as much as baseball players. Next.

 

ptkdb:

Anyone else finding the excuses at least amusing? Landis claimed that it was a glass of scotch that elevated his testosterone (IF ONLY!!!) in 2006 and this goober is claiming it was, "bad meat." How ... is that supposed to work?? List of excuses to come:

  • I was out in the sun too long
  • I wasn't out in the sun enough
  • I was training in the pool and I swallowed chlorinated water
  • A pretty girl kissed me at the finish line
  • Mosquito who bit a cheating rider bit me
  • Cheating rider spit on me
  • Blowgun dart

 

Comment of the day

 

"Every life matters."

- Andrew Meacham, St. Petersburg Times

 

We were inspired by an article in today's St. Petersburg Times about a 48-year-old dishwasher who was killed by a hit-and-run driver. Editors saw a nasty comment on the man's obituary and decided to do a profile on him.

 

They found a hard working, dependable man who kept to himself, but had a loyal circle of friends who miss him.

 

It's a good reminder that the stories we read here on CNN.com involve real people with lives and people who care about them.


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6 Comments
September 30, 2010
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i have a new solution for the homosexual problem.lets create a new third gender. male ,female and hefemale and every gendar can be proud of themselves. now if the young man was not feeling guilty of shame then he new he was doing wrong .so if he committed suicide it was his own weakness to kill himself no one wants to take responsibility in today world.how ever they violated his right to privacy .some men and women might do the same thing even if it was a man and woman.being video in a private act.

October 1, 2010
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I agree with NELCO any normal young man would have just shrugged it off, no need to jump off a bridge.

October 2, 2010
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I keep hearing that stories on CNN or other news stations about gay issues only promotes the "Gay Agenda". well, so what. The heterosexuals have been pushing their "Heterosexual Agenda" on Gays and Lesbians since the beginning of time.

October 2, 2010
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Not one of us is less than human. This idea of breaking ourselves into groups to judge one another is insane. The groups you belong to don't make you who you are. Guilt, fear and lack of understanding are the real causes of hate.

October 6, 2010
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Alzheimer's usually affects people older than 65, but can, rarely, affect those younger than 40. Less than 5 percent of people between 65 and 74 have Alzheimer's. For people 85 and older, that number jumps to nearly 50 percent. Thanks

October 8, 2010
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I like your new page and features.  I am a new nut and like to watch the news stations with my morning coffee.  I change channels during commercials.  How can they have commercials on 7 stations at the same time.  So, as soon as I can, I get on the internet.  I do miss Robin Meade. I have given up on MSNBC internetwith commercials on the videos.  Keep the ads to the side and keep news flowing.

Thanks, Walt

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