Monday, October 04, 2010
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Bullying has been a big topic of discussion both on CNN television and on CNN.com. A lot of Monday's conversation centered around cyberbullying – a problem that reportedly affects one in five kids between the ages of 10 and 18. Some commenters said cyberbullying should be treated as a crime, while others felt that the solution was for kids to spend less time online.

 

Users were also talking about the report that a group of jihadists from Hamburg, Germany allegedly were plotting attacks against European cities.

 

There was also a lot of talk about the Nobel Prize for medicine going to the inventor of in vitro fertilization. You can also hear from families who've benefited from the procedure on CNN iReport.

 

We're kicking off the second week  of the comments blog, so we wanted to take a minute to get your feedback. If you have any suggestions for improving this blog, or the commenting experience on CNN.com, let us know in the comments below.

 

Most commented stories:

 

In a wired world, children unable to escape cyberbullying

 

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740 comments and 1,728 Facebook shares

 

spicer1258

We can toughen up the wire fraud laws. Make it a felony to cyberbully. If we can't send the little darlings to jail because they're minors, send their parents.

 

Serene1111

Smaller kids do fine in martial arts courses and after school sports can help him overcome introversion. He doesn't need to be a victim.

 

teamhex

Here's a tip....TURN THE COMPUTER OFF!!!

 

oren12345

Why must kids die for this to become a national story, at what point do we stand up as a nation and say enough is enough and it ends today. Not after someone else dies.

 

PapaK

I've kept up with most of these bullying issues for a while now. It's always the same story, the school uses plausible deniability. Where's the trail? Who can the child go to if they feel threatened? No one. The schools don't want to get in the way of Darwin's theory. Why should they. This was a weak link in the gene pool and probably would have died anyway. How do you make the school system accountable for the issue of bullying? As long as it's a closed system where they can hide behind personal information then they will always be kids who will suffer the indignity of bullying. Bottom line.

 

iswimnaked

I got bullied a couple of times, then I caught the punk after school and sucker punched him. Split his lip WAY open. Yeah, he got a couple of shots in, but he never hassled me again.

 

NotsoQuickPl

Of course, there is a way to prevent cyberbullying: Don't let your children waste their lives away on social networks, chat rooms, Skype, computer games...etc. Technology use may not be unavoidable but there is no reason to submerse ourselves in them as so many have done.

 

essence32

I remember being picked on when I was growing up. It lowers your self esteem. It makes you feel like why am I on this earth? I thought about committing suicide but God held my hand. Now my kids are going through a little of the same thing. I believe parents should train up a child in the way they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it. Parents are responsible for deposit good morals and standards in their kids and correcting their kids when needed. Kids that are bullies should be more concern about their school work then what another students has on, their hair or etc.

 

etfonhm21

Bullying is a part of life. It never stops, no matter how old you get. Parents need to teach their kids to be proud of who they are and to ignore those who think less than they. All this bullying and there's a movie out called the "Social Network" about some unknown kid who was bullied. He didn't go home and cry, he changed the world. Time to teach kids to stand up and be better than the bullies.

 

DaveZ0

This will solve lots of problems: Instant and permanent suspension for anyone who participates in bullying of any kind in schools. So the high school quarterback gets caught beating up or tormenting smaller students and his loss might cost the school a chance at going state... He'll be terrified about being permanently kicked out of school for being a bully if that were the standard. The reason bullies do what they do is because they're rewarded for it by equally bad adults who want to see the same kids get bullied as the bullies themselves. It was my experience that teachers set the tone and in my school experience some of them were bullies and encouraged others to join in. … All these years later I don't remember my schoolmate bullies, but I do remember the ones who were my teachers and chose to join in with the bullies.

 

Hamburg cell at heart of terrorist plot against Europe

 

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1,431 comments and 1,693 Facebook shares

 

scott55

If you let terrorists alter your travel plans the they've already won.

 

clarke

The men of the KKK were Christian. So does that mean all Christians were the KKK.

 

JoeISP

The difference is, when one KKK member stands up, a thousand Christians stand up to shout him down. But when one radical Islam jihadist nutbag stands up, the rest of Islam looks the other way and pretends they don't see a thing. That's why the Klan DOES NOT rule Catholicism but the radical jihadists DO rule Islam.

 

4peacefan

They should expel these terrorists and let them live in their own country if they hate their adopted country. If you don't like the west, stay home.

 

carlossuarez

A mosque that attracts terrorists should be leveled.

 

bmwonder

That's like leveling a bar because it attracts alcoholics, or banning guns every time some psycho goes on a rampage. Terrorists are misguided murders using religion as an excuse for their own ends.

 

'Father of test tube baby' wins Nobel Prize for medicine

248 comments and 995 Facebook shares

 

TheMovieFan

He should have been awarded this years ago.

 

BloomingHere

Thank you for your breakthroughs, Dr. Edwards. My beloved daughter--a cardiologist in training--is here in this world thanks to you.

 

cmkc

Maybe you're infertile for a reason - maybe God chose you to adopt. Maybe it's God's way of trying to control our out of control population. But no, we have to selfishly try and create mini-me's and then so generously send our $5.00 per month to help Feed the Children, ad infinitum.

 

gabluefox

Please don't think that this man or any other doctor is playing God on this! God created man as he created doctors. If you all remember, even the bible talks about healers, Jesus being one. I would never give my nephew up. I had problems and went to a fertility doctor and said that I would have problems to get pregnant. It was him or God. I was lucky and God helped, but no matter how we got our baby or my sister, life is still precious! Shame on anyone who has tunnel vision on this!

 

jakuchka

The world recognizes IVF as an accepted scientific/medical procedure, the work received the Nobel Prize. Yet insurance companies still say it's an experimental procedure not accepted by the medical community so they won't cover any of the costs. Interesting.

 

cmkc

Maybe you're infertile for a reason - maybe God chose you to adopt. Maybe it's God's way of trying to control our out of control population. But no, we have to selfishly try and create mini-me's and then so generously send our $5.00 per month to help Feed the Children, ad infinitum

 

makemlaff

So we can thank this guy for the likes of Octomom?

Sorry - I guess I'm old-fashioned and maybe a tiny bit psychologically messed up, but I'm one of those people who can't have my own children biologically... but it doesn't really bother me to the point where I want to spend a bunch of money on procedures. Plenty of unwanted children on this planet, and perhaps I was meant to be a loving parent to one or more of those kids.

 

jake126

Congratulations! After 14 years of trying my wife and I are expecting a daughter in December thanks to Dr. Edwards work! (and for all of the naysayers out there, we have adopted 2 children, and they were the ones who encouraged us to keep trying!)

 

Comment of the day

 

Dude..I remember running across a group of Hell's Angles. Making my way through a small town just east of SoCal...Things were okay at first but, we stopped at a Seven Eleven were their Hogs were parked. I need to use the bathroom and get a Big Gulp. I saw them in the store standing in the back by the beer cooler and one in the candy aisle.  Looking out of the side of my vision as I walked past them to the bathroom, one came out of the bathroom and I ran into him! He pushed me back and I almost fell over the stack of Coke that was behind me. I made a quick recovery and in ah fight or flight response said something about how he smelled and that's when things took a turn. I forgot about using the restroom and just headed for the door. As I walked past the parked motorcycles, that's when a couple of guys up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said you moving with your aunty and uncle in Bell-Air. I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had a dice in the mirror if anything I can say that this cab was rare, but i thought naw forget it, yo home to Bell-Air!

 

Chaosevil penned this tribute to '90s television  in response to our story on a collection of never before seen photographs of the Hell's Angels biker gang.

12 Comments
October 4, 2010
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BORING!!!

October 4, 2010
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The comment of the day is funny and admittedly clever. However, I would caution the editor of this blog from rewarding the outlandish as comments of the day too often. While there are trolls on any comments section of any site, why encourage more?

October 4, 2010
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I personally believe that more attention should be aimed towards helping the bullies than the victims.  From my experience, probably being more on the bullying side as I did receive a few detentions back in high school for it, is that the bully has far less self confidence and the victim and is probably in a worse of place than the victim.  Not to say this is true for all bullying, some people are just strait up mean because they are bored or trying to impress their friends.  But other times, the bully may be closer to committing suicide than the victim, and bullying is his or her way of making themselves feel better and for a short time no longer having suicidal thoughts, due to feeling in charge of something in their life.  As for cyber-bullying, that's just simply avoidable (unlike bullying in school), so I do not feel bad for victims of that.

October 4, 2010
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Hmm just realized this was the comment section for the comments. My bad. I do like this comments page though... interesting to read through.

October 4, 2010
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makemlaff is ill-informed.  IVF docs VERY rarely allow more than 3-4 embryos to be implanted at a time, and then the odds are very low that there would be more than 1-2 children that "take".  Octomom had a goofy doctor.  The overwhelming percentages of cases are done prudently.

 

My 7 y/o girl is a blessing to me.  My belief is that God gave us doctors who act responsibly to fix biological issues that allowed me to have a child.  To argue otherwise is to assume you know God's intentions - not good.  You can take it as far as you like:  God may intend for me to get polio so why should I take a vaccine?

October 4, 2010

The answer of "tell a teacher" is a lie. We told the teachers and administrator every month for two years in meetings that our son and other white kids were being targeted for daily threats and several assaults. My son has a letter from the district telling him that he can not go to any classes where there is a substitute and he can only use the nurse's restroom. When did it become ok to segregate a white kid just to make the administrators job as easy as possible and avoid correcting racial hatred in a public elementary school. No one in the state or federal government would help us because e are white. There is a double standard at work. Notice how when an african american kid gets bullied it is all over the press but whites have to commit suicide or be murdered to get an attention and you know nothing gets fixed unless cameras and reporters show up at the school.

 

October 5, 2010
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bulling IS assault.  Assault is a crime.  If your kid commits assault, they should get a criminal penalty, same as what happens to an adult.  It's totally ridiculous to say that any level of assault should be allowed in a child.  How are they supposed to learn that assault is a crime as an adult, if they were never stopped from assaulting other kids as a kid?  The entire argument that bullying is somehow alien to all parents is ridiculous.  Any parent that didn't get bullied was a bully, that's why they are so shocked when little timmy is getting hit at school... because when they were little, they were the ones hitting.  Doesn't feel so good, does it, to see that happen to someone you care about?

October 5, 2010
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I know some working parents are going to take offense, but since most children are being raised in a home that both parents are working and the parents are seldom home to teach, and more importantly model things like respect and compassion.  The children don't see it or learn it.

Working parents tell themselves they are giving their children quality time but I think most come home, and are exhausted when they get home.  Too exhausted to really give their children the time they really need to teach and model these important life lessons.

October 12, 2010
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ARNOLD MORATALLA/HOUSTON TEXAS USA

TODO SER HUMANO TIENE DERECHO A VIVIR COMO SE LE DE LA GANA MIENTRAS TU NO LO ESTES MANTENIENDO, NO REGALES LO QUE NO ES TUYO, NO INVADAS LA PROPIEDAD PRIVADA, NO CONSUMAS MAS DE LO QUE NO PRODUCES, SIRVE PARA VIVIR, NO SEAS NUNCA NEGATIVO, NO TE QUEJES DE LO QUE TE PASA, SI TE CAES LEVANTATE, NO RENIEGUES DE LA VIDA, APROVECHA TU TIEMPO, DESEMPENA TU TRABAJO COMO SI ESTUVIERAS EN TU COMPANIA, SI TIENES SALARIOS O TRABAJAS POR HORA SE EQUITATIVO, NO TE DEJES MALTRATAR PSICOLOGIMENTE O FISICAMENTE, NADIE ES MEJOR QUE TU,O MAS INTELIGENTE, TODOS SOMOS IGUALES, APLICA TODO ESTO Y TRIUNFARAS HAY MAS PERO NO QUIERO ABURRIRLOS EMPRESARIO DE HONDURAS EN ESTADOS UNIDOS ARNOLD MORATALLA

October 13, 2010
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My comments are on the Chilean Miners and the number 33 mentioned on the news. When I'm not watching CNN, I'm reading, and just after the comments by the announcers regarding the number 33 - 33 miners, 33 weeks, totals of dates coming up as 33, and 33 being a lucky number, I resumed reading my book.  I am on page 333, the book is Dan Browns' "The Lost Symbol" and what do I find, the number 33 is hailed as the highest of all the Master Numbers. It was the most sacred figure, symbolizing Divine Truth. The tradition lived on within the Masons - Christians were taught that Jesus was crucified at age 33. Joseph was said to have been 33 when he married the Virgin Mary, Jesus accomplished 33 miracles, Gods name was mentioned 33 times in Genesis, in Islam all the dwellers of heaven were permanently 33 years old. 33 is a sacred number in many mystical traditions. Newton considered the number 33 special. The highest level of the Masons is the 33rd degree. 33rd degree was invented by Isaac Newton - he named the first degree zeroth (Newton Scale), an entire system of quantifying temperature based entirely on natural phenomena. Temperature of melting ice - 33 degrees. You can imagine my surprise when I read that.  I just thought I would would mention this, because it was such a weird thing to have happened just after hearing about the 33's listed in the report of the Chilean Miners.  God be with them all and Thank God for bringing them home.

Jayej

Saskatchewan, CANADA

October 13, 2010
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EL RESCATE DE LOS MINEROS DE CHILE ES UNA COSA GRANDIOSA DIGNO DE ADMIRAR QUE NOS SIRVA AL MUNDO PARA SER HUMILDES Y DARNOS CUENTA QUE NO SOMOS NADA EN ESTE MUNDO Y TARDE O TEMPRANO EL DIA NOS VA A LLEGAR YO ARNOLD MORATALLA CIUDADANO DE HONDURAS CON RESIDENCIA EN ESTADOS UNIDOS HE VIVIDO CADA MOMENTO CON ALEGRIA CON CADA RESCATE DE CADA UNO DE LOS MINEROS COMO SI SE TRATARA DE MI FAMILIA ESTOY FELIZ Y LE DOY MIS FELICITACIONES AL PRESIDENTE DE CHILE EL SR. PINERO DIGNO DE ADMIRACION Y EJEMPLO PARA LOS MAS PRESIDENTES DE OTROS PAISES Y QUE SE PREOCUPEN POR SUS CIUDADANOS YA POR EL PUEBLO ELLOS LLEGAN A LA PRESIDENCIA Y DESPUES ALGUNOS PRESIDENTES SE OLVIDAN DE LAS RESPONSABILIDADES QUE TIENE PARA CON EL PUEBLO...GRACIAS ARNOLD MORATALLA

October 13, 2010
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VIVA CHILE, Y EL PRESIDENTE PINERO DIOS LOS BENDIGA A TODOS LOS CHILENOS Y TODO EL MUNDO QUEREMOS PAZ EN NUESTRO PLANETA Y QUE LA COMISSION QUE FORMA LA OEA Y LA ONU VIJILE A LOS DEMAS PAICES CON PRESIDENTS CON IDEAS ABSURDAS A MANTENER EL ORDEN Y QUE CONSERVEMOS LA DEMOCRACIA RECORDEMOS QUE CON EL EJEMPLO DE CUBA Y VENEZUELA NO MAS VAMOS A QUEDAR EN EL PASADO OLVIDADOS DE LOS DEMAS PAICES PORQUE SON UN PELIGRO PARA DEMOCRACIA NO SIGAN A LOS CASTROS NI HUGO CHAVEZ PUEBLO NO SE DEJEN ENGANAR ELLOS SON GOVIERNOS CORRUCTOS Y SOLO QUIEREN APODERARSE DEL PAIS Y DESPUES SE PERPETUAN Y LOS DEJAN A UDS PUEBLO SIN DERECHOS MURIENDOSE DE HAMBRE Y EN PLENA MISERIA CUIDADO CON ESOS PRESIDENTES CORRUCTOS  ...ARNOLD MORATALLA

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