Thursday, October 21, 2010
U.S. passionate about French protests

Ah, France. A nation known for its passion in food, wine, love…and protests.

 

Many French citizens have been rallying for days against the proposed increase of their retirement age from 60 to 62, leading to riots, school closings, and the shutdown of a major airport.

 

What’s interesting is how passionate people here in the U.S. are getting about the French protests. Strong opinions abound in the CNN.com comments, from users envying the French retirement age to saying the protesters should get back to work. And, of course, some commenters are using the story as an opportunity for some good old-fashioned France-bashing…

 

ntcz: “I am impressed; this has been going on for a few days and the French haven’t surrendered yet?”

 

RandyF offered a clever reply: “The US would not exist if it were not for the support of the French during the Revolution. Why all the sour grapes about the French? Seems more like jealousy from the 50% of folks who are going to die before they reach 65 from stress, over eating and the general American lifestyle.“

 

But seriously, RandyF’s sentiments are echoed by many other contributors. Some feel like the U.S. should adopt a system more like France’s, with a relatively low retirement age and increased vacation time.

 

zeitsev: “Good for them. A nation whose laws and society expect people to have a life, family, and happiness outside of work. Meanwhile, people in America boast working 60 hours a week while they rarely see their children. Yeah, America, good job.”


Z8888: “Retirement at age 62? Still sounds pretty good compared to the U.S. retirement age…which is retire when you are dead.”

 

And waspoam has a different reason for admiring the French: “There is one thing to be said for the French people…when the government does something the people do not like, they have the balls to protest. In America, all we do is sit around and whine about it.”

 

Meanwhile, other commenters are calling a retirement age of 60 unrealistic or even lazy.

 

rkt210: “People are living longer and healthier than they used to. Birth rates are also down. That means that unless the retirement age rises, the pension system is unsustainable. 60 is ridiculously low, and they're only talking about raising it to 62.”

 

crazyliz: “France has created a socialist society where the people expect the government to take care of them regardless of what they have ‘paid for’ over the years. So high school kids are revolting because, just like their parents, they expect to be taken care of. America is headed in the same lazy direction. The money is not there. Go work hard and save your money and get out of debt. No one else is going to take care of you. That's the lesson we need to take from this.”

 

tdsianac: “The younger French citizens are plotting their own downfall. With prolonged life due to better science in the medical industries, someone who is 21 today may live to 100 years old -- on average 80 years from now. Those who are in the streets rioting today should be demanding laws be put into place denying companies the right to force retirement before the age of 80, and not demanding it be kept at 60. Their thinking is very short-sighted.”

 

glas45: “I love France; however, the French have to realize like we all do that we live into our 80s now. Times have changed, costs increase with the increased older population and the retirement age does have to go up.”

 

Horgh: “What they should be protesting is nearly 50% taxation for people who want to work, and a social system that enthusiastically subsidizes entire populations who have no desire to work whatsoever.”

 

jrseygypsy48: “These protestors have disrupted air travel and vehicle travel, the tourist trade, fuel distribution, and general business over the small inconvenience of working two additional years at the age of 60? And now they engage in violent protests in order to make their childish demands heard? No, I will not work until 62....stamp, stamp, stamp....beat my fists....throw my bread and cheese. In order to stabilize the economy there must be some concessions. For too long they have enjoyed government sponsored healthcare, benefits, pensions at 60 and other benefits that have drained the economy. One cannot merely expect that the government will provide for all your needs without some concessions on your part. Stop whining and get back to work.”

 

And finally, usullivan, who lives in Paris, doesn’t think the protests are really about the pension system at all. He says the French people are using the law as a way to channel their anger towards French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

 

“I have to tell you the truth,” he wrote. “The problem is not the pensions but the president himself. Most of the French people are fed up with Sarkozy and his way of governing the country. And this law is a pretext on which to focus all the anger towards Sarkozy. Young people don't think about their pensions, but need a real president to lead them towards the future.”

 

[Some comments have been edited for length and clarity.]

126 Comments
October 21, 2010
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Notice how the socialist countries (Greece) start rioting as soon as entitlements are threatened.

 

Yeah France should segregate its' immigrants (it does) by putting them in squalor and then give them a reason to burn the place up. Socialism with no integration, a winning combination.

 

Sarkozy is just the messenger.

 

He should have just raised taxes to pay for the entitlements. The result probably would have been the same though.

October 21, 2010
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they should live in Chicago.  the connected in this city retire on six figure pensions at 55, take another civic job, then collect an additional pension.  there are literally hundreds of slobs getting over $200k/yr.  and we, the property tax payers, foot the bill.

October 21, 2010
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From what I've read elsewhere so far, even France's trade unions realize that the current system could not be maintained, and that the retirement age has to be raised. But they're just sitting back and letting Sarkozy take all the heat.

October 21, 2010
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Nations will rediscover Fiscal stability, with all the poisons we put in the air, water and food, life expectency will most defintely start decrease.. Than raise retirement to age 70..

October 21, 2010
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Job, You talk about Socialist Countries rotting, Do you know Communist China owns US??

October 21, 2010
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what do they teach in schools?  Doesn't the young generation know that what they pay in tax will support the pension for current retiree, so whatever they pay will be used up and by the time they retire, state will be bankrupted thus nothing for them to get anything.  So they should be supporting the law so they might have few pennies left over when they retire.

October 21, 2010
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Somebody (I don't remember who) said once that France is everybody's second motherland. I agree and I think that is why we are all so interested in what happens there. I personally wish the French people the best.

October 21, 2010
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Too bad we don't share a border with France.  All they would have to do is just come here illegally and we will take care of them.

October 21, 2010
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To those who think teh French are lazy: rigth now in order to collect full retirement, they need to work 40.5 years, regardless of age so, if you started working at 24, you can't retire fully until you are 64. As education is become lenghtier, most French who want good jobs, don't start a career until they are 25-30 therefore will work until 65-70 under the current law. Add 2 years to that and they are 67-72, does that ring a bell? Everybody gets caught up into that # 62 when it doesn't mean much at all. How do I know, my mom is 62 because she doesn't have 40.5 years, if she retires now she gets $292 month, if she wait unti her 40.5 years, she get about $700 month. Also I am a French test technician that was hired by a US company almost 18 years ago because of my work ethics so the "all french are lazy" is like saying "all Americans are ignorant". I wish both French and American people a great day and more importantly a great life. Don't forget families are more important than all materials and all the "green" you can put away.

October 21, 2010
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Hello? Does anyone actually read the articles? The early retirement age is moving up from 60 to 62, but the standard is moving from 65 to 67. That is just like the US. People are applauding them for their low retirement age but it's the same as ours.

Now if you want to talk vacation time or their 30 hour work weeks, then I'm listening!

October 21, 2010

As much as I am in support of protest if you do not like the way the government is operating -the fact is that we have fewer resources to take care of the masses. We have  more people that demand more from its governments. We have less jobs because of technology and outsourcing.People continue to breed like rats -yet they have'nt any money to support a family yet they want the government to pick up the tab.

October 21, 2010
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I love the brainwashed workaholics on here condemming the French for enjoing "leisure" time, as if it were a bad word. The French have every right to riot; they see the gap between rich and poor widening and are rightfully angry about it. Those who control the means of production will always attempt to subvert the working class into a lifetime of labor (or as much as they can get anyway).

October 21, 2010
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Dude58 55? they are working that long, you should see business here in Philly. look up DROP program.

 

Ok so in France they are protesting retirement age? who cares its France's problem not ours.    Americans should worry more about America then France.

 

Cypressgirl, your dead on and that fits just about every major nation.

October 21, 2010
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breaker, at what point do people have to understand your sense of entitlement only goes so far.

October 21, 2010
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It is funny how so many americans have an opinion about a social system that they have never lived in.

October 21, 2010
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Hello Karen,

 

The French work 35 hours, not 30 and the way it was done didn't really change much of your actual work, there were plenty of loop hole for factories to be able to keep the employees the same amount of hours as before (just turn your machines off during lunch and then you worked "only" 7 hours for instance). Vacation time is still pretty big in Europe but to be honest, I work in the US and I get 4 weeks + holidays, people with over 20 years in my company get 5 weeks + holiday so that's pretty similar. It seems like few high tech company offers good vacation package. Look at Intel, after 7 years you get an 8 weeks sabbatical for that year, on top of you regular vacation.

October 21, 2010
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I am a Frenchman living abroad and I am so ashamed of the irresponsible behavior of my compatriots.

Democracy should be decided in the voting offices and not in the street. You do not like your leaders ? then vote them out during the next election. It is that simple.

Socialist leaders are playing a dangerous game by pushing people to riot while not offering alternate solutions.

Sad,sad,sad..

October 21, 2010
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The French are being stupid!  Look around the world and grow up!  You all will be outsourced to India or some such place, like the rest of us!  Suck it up, get back to work, and stop being childish!  Talk about a bunch of spoiled and out of touch with reality idiots!!!  Roll with the times or be run over by the bus of the global economy.  Really!!!  What a bunch of lazy self-indulgent jerks!

Get your rear ends off the street and back to work!

October 21, 2010
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Way to go France, fight for what you believe in. While you're all living nice, peaceful, relatively young retired lives of enjoyment - the dullards over on this side of the puddle will die at age 75 in their cubicles in a life of servitude and slavery.

October 21, 2010
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Who in the US is ticked off with the French protesting against their government for raising their retirement age. Maybe the US citizens should be protesting the plans the republicans have of doing even worse to us, raising the age to 70. Seniors already know how burned out they are and the majority could not last as long as the younger people. The younger folks will be there someday and have to fight to get their age lowered, once its raised, it is harder to get it back. Our ancestors along with Unions (the workers) and FDR fought to get us Social Security and Employer Pensions. Now we want to give up what we earned. Like the private sectors, the government FERS Anuity (employees who started after 1985)is the same as the basic one given out in the bottom of the line in private sector and they need the social security supplement the same as the private sector folks do. Its the politicians who have it made, not the government civil servants.

October 21, 2010
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Sarkozy is simply being fiscally responsible. On top of that a quiet majority agree with him which is why the law is going to pass anyway. Rioting every other week whenever they can find an excuse for it is just the French way of life. However none of the rioters have offered a way to monetarily sustain the retirement age staying at 60 which makes all the protesting about it all the more absurd.

October 21, 2010
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At least the French can still protest.  Not saying that I support them, but can you imagine a real protest (-not- a riot) happening over here?  We'd have martial law in no time.  Protests aren't tolerated by the powers that be in the U.S.

October 21, 2010
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Half Half - Whatever. You missed my point. I think the French have a favorable work system with regards to private time off. More favorable then in the US. I was just pointing out that most comments made note that the retirement age is 60, but it's not.

I don't care to debate. As someone noted above, we should be concerned with what is going on here in the States and as an American citizen, I am going to do just that. Thanks.

October 21, 2010
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Americans are cowards.  The US government changed our retirement age from 65 to 67 and a half and Americans took it bent over.  Bunch of cowards and as cowards you respond by bashing the French that are standing up for their rights, for their quality of life. 

 

Americans, on the other hand, are about to lose Social Security and all you cowards do is write letters to your Congressman.  Well, guess who's stealing your social security? Your Congressman! 

 

Americans are cowards!

October 21, 2010
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More government control and less personal responsibility.

More reliance upon the government.

Selfishness and irresponsibility on every side of the problem.

Inevitable explosion of demand and absence of supply.

Something's gotta give, and it's gonna be ugly...

October 21, 2010
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Defined benefit pension plans are destructive. Sure, they are nice and cushy for the people that get them but they are close to impossible to predict the costs for, have the ability to bankrupt the sponsoring organization, and are extremely sensitive to fluctuations in population demographics.

 

I went to college for a master's and work just as hard as any unionized laborer or civil servant. How come they get to have their retirement handed down on a silver platter whereas I have to pay for mine out of pocket?

 

October 21, 2010
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This is really not so much about "lazy French people not wanting to retire at 62".  This is primarily the young people protesting that the lack of jobs for them entering the job market will get worse if current employees must hang on to their jobs for another two years.

October 21, 2010
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All of you anti-French, anti-socialists, anti-everything hotheads should consider that socialism may not be our way, but it is popular in western Europe for a reason.  People there have a real life, unlike us, who are working all the time, they have free health care, a month of vacation time every year and live in relative peace, compared to us, who are always fighting and puffing up our chests.  And, at least the French, unlike the whining babies in the US have enough backbone to protest when they are angry, instead of cowering behind pent up anger.  They have passion, we have arrogance.

October 21, 2010
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here in US we dont have the guts to do protests like them, we are sheeps

October 21, 2010
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This is  just the French being  themseleves . This too shall pass .

October 21, 2010
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Quite a few of us in the IT world don't get to 'retire' on our own terms (deciding which age); our companies are doing it for us by laying off the 'older' workers and/or offshoring all the work.  Heck, it would be nice to be employed until the age of 60!

October 21, 2010
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Hi  my  fellow  Amricans

 

   I  am  American. We  American  people   must  protest   retirement  age  67  like  France  people. Retirement  age  67  is  very  high. Nobody  hire  workers (over 60  years  age).American  retirement  age  should  be  also  60  years  old.American  people  wake up  and  stand up  to  retirement  age 67.

October 21, 2010
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American, who don't know anything about France or the French people, will sit here and judge them based on an article with incomplete information. Don't believe that what you read is the whole story, people. It's just the result of someone who had to meet a deadline. Chill down and relax. Vive la France!

October 21, 2010
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Protesting is fine, having a life is fine, 6 weeks vacation and a year off for pregnancy is great. I doubt anyone argues otherwise. But the central question is whether or not the French can continue to sustain an aging population all retiring at 60. If the money is not there, the money is not there.

October 21, 2010
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Citizens of the United States will never understand that real change comes from walking off the job en masse, protesting, and demonstrating - it's about eliminating control. A country is nothing without the working middle class that keeps 'every day life' flowing. Want change? Let them hear you through the country grinding to a halt - not through voting.  Voting is an ingenius political tool implemented to make you think you're actually doing something useful. Newsflash: You're deluded and brainwashed.

 

Unfortunately the system already has most Americans. They're too scared to fight for what they believe in because, heaven forbid, they may lose their job! There are worse things in life people, namely - where this country is headed.

 

Way to go France, fight for what you believe in. While you're all living nice, peaceful, relatively young retired lives of enjoyment - the dullards over on this side of the puddle will die at age 75 in their cubicles in a life of servitude and slavery.

 

The worst part is that those of us who actually realize this are trapped. We know what needs to be done, but there are too many morons out there that ensure nothing will ever be accomplished. Wake up America, it's time for a Revolution. This country is going to hell in a handbasket, and you're the ones sending it there in the express lane!!

October 21, 2010
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Notice how capitalist taxpayers just shut up and roll over when socialized capitalism is deemed affordable and necessary despite being TRILLIONS in debt, and two illegal invasions and occupations continue to be funded by the LARGEST SOCIALIST PORK-BARREL SPENDING ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET, FOR ALL TIME.

 

Particularly when these capitalist taxpayers can have future unborn Americans socialize the costs of socialized capitalism and the LARGEST INSTITUTIONALIZED SOCIALISM bled dry by cash cow contracts (eg. privatized parasitism)on the FACE OF THE PLANET AND FOR ALL TIME.  We don't even let our citizens know where all it's "defense" and "intelligence" spending is going -- but you can BE DAMNED SURE, it's THE LARGEST BY FREAKING FAR SOCIALIST SPENDING ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET AND FOR ALL TIME.  We're talking about DEBT SPENDING WELL INTO THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, assuming this nation ever becomes solvent over it's LARGEST SOCIALIZED SPENDING BUDGETS for "defense" and "intelligence" ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET and FOR ALL TIME.

 

Freaking pinnacle of socialism.  The American Defense and Intelligence Contract Industry.

October 21, 2010
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in europe employees get lots of vacation during the year we here are robots

October 21, 2010
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I have seen a couple posts saying America is working too many hours. I remember one time when some of them, a lot of them women, were working in shifts,around the clock and the factories never slowed up from 1941 until late 1945.They built a war machine second to none.Never hurt them,actually helped them to show they were not second to men and they  helped save our country.I think they set an example some chair warmers could use today.

October 21, 2010
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I normally agree with the French people's view on politics and the fact that they stand up to the government when it is trying to scr3w them, BUT, in this particular case they are wrong.  People live much longer now and having the retirement age set at 60 is simply not realistic. 

 

On the other hand, if they agree to a higher retirement age and the government then simply cuts taxes for the rich with the money saved they would be just as stupid as the Americans.

 

October 21, 2010
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It is refreshing to see young people who are passionate about something and actually act.  In the U.S. I only see apathy and ignorance. The French govermentment fears their people, the U.S. government does not.

October 21, 2010
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Let the French run their country.We have enough irons in the fire now.

October 21, 2010
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I say bring it on! Americans are such a bunch of critical whiners, and the funny thing is how they can make a statement and then completely contradict it in the next. Why do folks want to work so hard at doing jobs they mostly hate anyway? We keep talking about how we've got the best in the world - well, first off, we got it good because we grossly exploited most of the world to get it.  Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy, we eat roughly 200 billion calories of food each day more than we need - enough to feed 80 million people, and we throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily! So, when you want to talk about entitled, well, better look very closely in the mirror first, because from a global perspective Americans appear to be grossly entitled.

 

 

October 21, 2010
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If indeed, as usullivan said, that the people of France want a new leader then they should call for it. Otherwise get back to work. People in the west and east probably don't take too kindly for people to 'throw tantrums' over money (tea party).

October 21, 2010
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@halfhalf ahh you have to work 40.5 years to get FULL benifits 100% but that choice would be yours to hold out for the better beneifits, does that 40.5 include part time work- do that in school afternoons for a couple of hours and then i could retire at 58-59 or so,because just about everyone i know worked in high school part time and full time during summers i learned how to paint and was doing it as a profession when i was 17 and going to school and then i went to college played tennis on scholar ship and was a pro painter. and now IT support at a Desk, i can retire at 62 but for only 70% benifits i think is what the SSI.gov website says by then 70% will be plenty, partly because i know how to manage my life.

October 21, 2010
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Oh please france, don't go all les miserables on us again.

October 21, 2010
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And more thing, to all the posters commenting on how much longer we live these days - hogwash.  The life expectancy of WHITE Americans is about 78yrs, but much less for blacks and hispanics.  Somehting to consider since hispanics will become America's majority race around 2050.

October 21, 2010
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Say what you want about the French, they have the guts to do something like this. In America we sit around and complain about it.  I'm just as guilty, but shame on any of you for criticizing them for standing up for their rights.

 

For example, the guy that knows that Chicago is corrupt and the people are stealing from the honest won't do a thing.  Just like his neighbors.

October 21, 2010
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@liberal29 last i checked on the news i saw the tea party protesting about something and up in a hoot, we just know gasoline cocktails thrown onto cars solve nothing except hurt the owner of that car, to young to remember the Watts riots in Cali during civil right era HUH, but hurling rocks and stones and burning just hurts the ones that are being burnt and hit, civil rights was Won by peacful protesting not Black party mass killings. and last i checked the French would be speaking German if it wasnt for us so who has the absence of a backbone.

October 21, 2010
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The question of a "retirement age" is totally misleading.  The issue here is age at which you can quit working and live on the government dime!  Retire whenever you like, there is no law that I am aware of in any country that says you can't retire whenever you want.  Make your money and retire at 40 if you can.  These are folks who feel "entitled" to the public funding their retirement.  How are they thinking that will be paid for?  By the way, France (all of Europe for that matter and now Obama here in the US) has created this situation by stifling creativity and capitalism with socialism and creating a large class of the population that "expects" free healthcare, free education and free retirement.  You reap what you sow.

October 21, 2010
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IV'E BEEN DISABLED FOR 13 YRS.BECAUSE OF A BACK AND NECK INJURY.I'M ABOUT TO HAVE MORE SURGERY ON MY NECK SHORTLY!!! AND I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF CONSERVATIVE OBSTRUCTIONIST REPUBLICANS TELLING ME THAT I'M A DEAD BEAT AND THEY KEEP THRETENING TO ABOLISH SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.YOU DISCOMPASSIONATE JERKS CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!

October 21, 2010
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The French people promised themselves more than was realistic. Now their have to be cuts. It is hard to sympathize with people who are protesting the proposed raising of the state-supported retirement age from 60 to 62, especially when many of them go to state-subsidized colleges until they are 30. It would be great if we all didn't have to work, but how would anything get done?

October 21, 2010
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Hey, isn't this what the Tea Party people are protesting too?  They don't riot, but they don't want any cuts to SS, Military, Medicare or Medicaid.  Talk about entitlement!

 

Somehow they're gonna cut taxes and spending to balance the budget without touching the programs that make up 80% of spending.   I think they are worse than the French!

 

Tea Party = French Protestors.

 

 

October 21, 2010
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And you idiot Americans want Obama's socialism too?  It’s failing in Europe wake up!

October 21, 2010
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All authoritative economic organizations such as The Economic Policy Institute, The Center for Economic Research and Policy, The OECD, etc reported that in the long-run the French are more productive than americans. Then if you account for the time off the French have and less hours worked and all their benefits the Americans lack, well you get the idea. The French kids destroying things dont have to understand the economic logic behind their actions, they do understand their lives are precarious not at their doing. I left the US in disgust of the people doing nothing while they know things arent right. I feel much more at home with people in France who fight power taking from them compared to the US.

October 21, 2010
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OH I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IV'E HAD CANCER TWICE (2) DIFFERENT KIND'S AND IF IT WASN'T FOR POT I WOULD BE DEAD NOW,BUT THAT'S WHAT SOME OF YOU CLOWN'S WANT!!!!

October 21, 2010
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Since when are entitlements power?  They are the exact opposite.  Your comment about the French being more productive than Americans is pure garbage, I work at a multi-national firm and have been posted in France and throughout Europe and your "studies" simply don't hold true in the real world.  By the way, if this is valid I missed the press articles about all of the companies moving their production and other facilities to France - forward me those links will you?

October 21, 2010
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What I find odd is that the people who are rioting are not necessarily the people whom the law affects (at least not directly for another 30 years).  The protesters all look young.

 

Are the french protesters so interested in what happens in 30 years, because that is a surprising long-sighted mentality.

 

 

October 21, 2010
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@devildances last i checked it was the LIBERALS that were going to kill medicare with there policies not the republicans, because there taking money out of it to fund something else, DEM pres and DEM control government is having that done.

October 21, 2010
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Bottom line DevilDances is that these are not federal issues, they are local issues and should be dealt with locally.  Never were, never should have been.  Check out the constitution sometime.  I am not saying you should or shouldn't get any type of assistance, but that is for your local community to decide, not the Federal government.

October 21, 2010

The French are laid back. They love their holidays & their jobs aren't their life. I wish this country would protest like that.

October 21, 2010
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What we all should take away from this is: The French are not afraid of their government. They get out and protest, we stay at home while politicians walk all over us.

October 21, 2010
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Bob56, I never said socialist countries are "rotting".

 

I said they riot at the first sign of losing or restricting entitlements.

 

The current rioting in France is what it is and you can bet it isn't based on retirement age alone.

 

They don't really need or want a "good reason".

 

Striking is one thing, rioting another.

 

Do you know that it is considered a "good night" around the "slums" of Paris when they only burn three cars?

 

As for China, so what?

 

China owns most or part of every developed countries debt.

 

October 21, 2010
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And yet half our country whats to follow the same socialized path as Europe.

October 21, 2010
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I like the people in the USA that say work hard and save your money.  Why?  The dollar you saved today is only worth 90 cents tomorrow, and a month from now only 75 cents in buying power.  The American Dollar is becoming as worthless as each grain of sand on the beach.  Obama seems to think that printing worthless money is the way to recovery.  He has it all bassackwards, the way you make the dollar worth more is to pay off debt, tighten up credit, withdraw worthless money from the banks, and stop giving it away or he is still breaking he US economy.  If you really want to make the dollar worth something in the long run, rebase it to gold or silver, as it was before the banks convinced the Government to withdraw it so they could inflate the money.  Nope, holding American cash money is foolish unless you want to haul a wheelborrow full of worthless paper to the market to get a loaf of bread.

October 21, 2010
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If America fails like the Roman Empire it will be due to the historical idiocy of Republican supporters. You will fail us, WillyBrown. Not socialism.

October 21, 2010
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The French are Socialists.  They have just figured out the social programs are unsustainable.  We are heading in the same perverted direction.  Vote Them All Out.

October 21, 2010
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The French AND the Americans must come to grips with the fact that Life has never being about having fun. Life is about survival ... In addition, why would anyone want to retire about 25 years before the probable demise at age circa 85 years old anyways? ...

Yea, what is all this stuff about living to have fun? ... Ask the Asians about it ... they're accustomed to working long hours and 6 days a week. They're going to kick the Developed countries into the stone age ... Let's remember the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire ... Yes folks, things are achanging in this world, and VERY fast. In 20 years, Civilization will be in the Far East countries, with the rest of us at 25% long term unemployed, living in a country that is broke and with no future ...

And in 50 years ... oh, well, I'll be dead (retired) by then :-)

 

October 21, 2010
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Glaus, dont read well do you? I left the names of the world's most credible organizations for you to look at, as I am an economist. In fact, chapter 8 of the book "The State of Working America" published by The Economic Policy Institute, lists the terrible truths that contradict the US's Neoliberal ideological propoganda. I have worked for 25 years in the US and 3 in France that experience has confirmed there greater productivity along with those reports. Entitlements do empower has it is obvious you understand nothing about economics as they are consider stabilizers that keep consumption up in times of recession when it is no fault at all of the worker. The US has the lowest levels of entitlements in the whole advanced industrialized world and the highest levels of poverty and inequality and that is why the US has standards of living and quality of life lower than many europeans countries. Children die of simple things in the US that never happen in europe because the US lacks european social protections.

October 21, 2010
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Republican voters will lead to millions more jobs lost to China. They are as willing to foot the bill for Chinese labor as they are willing to believe every word uttered in Fox News. Which to say, they love the bait so much they think it was their idea all along.

October 21, 2010
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Imagine if you will of giving a child an icecream bar every day after school for 6 months.  They get use to it and want more.  Instead you cut them off and say no more icecream.  What do they do, scream, holler, protest, throw a fit.  What just happened, you gave the icecream away for free! It became an entitlement and expected.  They wanted and demanded more.  You are in control of the kids with icecream.  That my friend is socialism.  Now you take it away and they want it back even though they did nothing to deserve it and they throw an absolute fit.  Wala, the French People.  What famouse thing have they ever done, oh they sell slightly used rifles, only dropped once.

October 21, 2010
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The fact is that it was the French Royalty that supported the United States during the revolution. Then the French people cut off their heads. The French people have not supported the United States. They are jealous that they are no longer a world power.

October 21, 2010
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Glaus, companies have to move their jobs to a communist state to get what they want. It is implicit that American corporations do not have the moral fiber to do business in any nation with good labor standards. You act like that's a good thing. IT MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT.

October 21, 2010
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Who can afford to retire anyway?   

October 21, 2010
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I am 49 yrs old and I Feel pretty burn't out already.Used up like an old T - bag  I need to get on welfare so that I can collect my share b4 it is all gone;hell I pay for it with my tax dollars....better yet, get a doctor to say that I have mental issues so that I can get SSI. I could give a Rats%$@# about the French. "It's an ugly planet, a bug planet..." is how I feel about that

October 21, 2010
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Sodahead, so when the richest americans receive the world's highest levels of transfer payments in the form of direct subsidisies, tax deductions, direct hand-outs and corporate welfare at the same time the US's average and poor citizens receive the advanced industrialized world's lowest entitlements, social programs and support you complain that the French, with the balls to stand up for basic decency, babies? You probably dont even realize that life expectancy in the US is dropping for the first time because of the lack of social protection and France's is much higher then the US's and increasing because their programs are benefiting them and they dont want their country to degrade like it has for US citizens.

October 21, 2010
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Let them eat cake

October 21, 2010
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I love the French, but would they like a little cheese with that whine?

October 21, 2010
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It's fine to laud the French people and applaud their life style.  But keep in mind that to have the same here in the U.S. we must all collectively agree to accept less in the way of material goods and comforts.  Just as the French have.

October 21, 2010
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The french are spoiled little kids...get a real life and shut up already you commie b*stards!

October 21, 2010
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At least the French are not as dumb as Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.  Sure France has created a socialist society where the citizens' very lives are mapped out, planned, and financed by the government, but at least the French are not stupid enough to invite illegal aliens to come on in and grab themselves a place at the socialist table, too.

October 21, 2010
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We are proud that we work our lives into the ground, all the while getting robbed by the corporate run government.

 

America, BEEP yeah

October 21, 2010
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@ crazyliz

 

I really wish the US was headed in France's direction. You unfortunately are wrong :(

October 21, 2010
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French live longer than Americans. Americans Longevity is actual Decreasing due to Obesity and bad health.  Americans are dying younger.. and it makes sense, we are the fattest, most obese nation in the world.

 

As far as the protest, we shoudl do the same thing... it will strike fear in those butwipes in Wallstreet that jack up rates by Hedging an major Economic pillar...  ( gasoline and Oil)

October 21, 2010
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France is not a socialist society. Perhaps we should shorten the work week here to educate people about things like what socialism is. The fact is, France is a successful capitalist, market based economy with some regulatory balance.

 

A shorter work week or term of work makes sense. It means taking some of the surplus we produce and giving it back to those who produce it. It would increase employment too as retiring workers would be replaced by younger people who usually find it harder to find work.

 

 

October 21, 2010
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Vive la France!  I support my French brothers and sisters.  The disassembling of the working class must stop now. 

October 21, 2010
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Who said a person has to work right up to his time of death. Why shouldn't a worker who has paid into his retirement for many years expect to retire at an age that will allow him to enjoy life just a little bit in the last years of his life, he's earned it. In the U.S., we also have to put up with the politicians dipping their slimy, sticky fingers into Social Security. Something that they should be arrested for!! The problems arise in systems that are funded by the labor force and pilfered by the government officials!!

October 21, 2010
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Here is something funny: bloggers calling French people lazy, whiners, entitled when those same ones are the ones that are obviously jealous and whiners! How many of those bloggers (they know who they are) would not like to be able to retire at 62 but can't because of their own doing or because of the governement? Come on people, get of your high horses and don't try to understand other countries unless you have lived there and experienced their lives. France is not better than America (and I am French by the way) but America is not better than France either!!

October 21, 2010
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Can we just mind our own business here?  This will not affect the United States.

October 21, 2010
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Another thing, while I am at it: Healthcare and retirement are not free in France! It is not handed down on a silver platter, you earn it by working and putting your money into Social Security (covers both medical and retirement)! Again, you have to work at least 40.5 years to get full retirement in France. Yes you can choose to get less if you retire early, just like in the USA. So as much as I disagree with the riots and the strike I also have to disagree with many on this blog who do not know and yet are posting rude and vile comments. I didn't know that doing that was productive and helpful.

October 21, 2010
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I also saw a lot of blogs that are showing that some bloggers have good knownledge and/or are trying to understand someone else point of view or life, that is refreshing. Usually when I read blogs regarding France, it is about 75% negative with remarks usually off the mark, rude, mean and of course referring to WWI or WWII even when that is not the subject

October 21, 2010
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How can students and young people be protesting in France?  They haven't worked or earned any right to protest anything.  Same with our college students in the United States.  They think it is "Neat" to vote for Obama in hopes that everything will be taken from one half of the country and handed to the other half of the country.  Until they work thirty years like the rest of us and earn the right to protest something they all need to keep their mouths shut!!!!

October 21, 2010
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How can students and young people be protesting in France?  They haven't worked or earned any right to protest anything.  Same with our college students in the United States.  They think it is "Neat" to vote for Obama in hopes that everything will be taken from one half of the country and handed to the other half of the country.  Until they work thirty years like the rest of us and earn the right to protest something they all need to keep their mouths shut!!!!

 

October 21, 2010
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How can students and young people be protesting in France?  They haven't worked or earned any right to protest anything.  Same with our college students in the United States.  They think it is "Neat" to vote for Obama in hopes that everything will be taken from one half of the country and handed to the other half of the country.  Until they work thirty years like the rest of us and earn the right to protest something they all need to keep their mouths shut!!!!

 

October 21, 2010
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To all the posters who say I too should protest in America,,,,,,I am too busy surfing high speed internet,,,watching digital HD cable and eating Ben and Jerry's to protest.Leave me alone.

October 21, 2010
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So, I must be missing something. They want to raise retirement age to 62, but are the going to raised the years worked from 40.5 to 42.5, cause if not, quitcherbchn. Take 2 years after school to learn a trade, travel, goto college, then work your 40.5years and retire around 62-67 like everyone else. I know there is a bigger issue in France than the 2 year increase, I wish these riots had a spokesmen that could clear this up a bit more.

October 21, 2010
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Impeach Obummer!  Otherwise, Americans will be rioting in the streets!!

October 21, 2010
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during this recession, The European companies cut their profits in order not to lay off their workforces because they care about their people and the countries they reside in. Not Like American companies who only care about profits and donations to the GOP only. US Corp Motto Why should we care!

October 21, 2010
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I wish Americans would grow a back bone. The GOP through our civil liberties in the trash and now wants to play fast and friendly with the constitution and all the unwash masses do is smile blankly and say "oooh thank you i feel so much safer now"

October 21, 2010
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Now hold on America. Just wait one minute. Those lauding the French for protesting an increase in the retirement age to 62, which is called a change in the lifestyle of France, is what happened with President Obama's healthcare overhaul in which alot of people protested and complained about the change. So why are American's complaining about the French complaining about change?

 

Complain, Complain, Complain about progress and what is the best interest for America instead of the image of few of your master's that will gloat over your salavation's and drueling's while you wait for their next hand down.

 

See this grenade that has "Complaint Department" on it? Pull the number that is attached to the pin and wait five seconds, someone will be along to assist you with your complaint.

October 21, 2010
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I continue to be amazed in reading the many comments by brainwashed-corporate-workaholics. You guys/girls are handing your best years to your uncaring employer for measly wages.

 

What is the origin of the attitude that holds the 'almighty employer' so sacred?

 

We no longer get pensions. We work for less and less money. We can be kicked to the curb for really any reason. Real job security does not exist in corporate America. All states favor employers in labor issues.  

October 21, 2010
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Pay off your bills pay up your house get a good year ahead just in case we take another dip and if you pay off everything you have you will lose nothen when we take another dip. be smart and owe nobody anything, and you will have a stress free recession .

American are just mad because the french have the gutts to stand up and fight the roman empire.

October 21, 2010
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You know at this time in history I wish we were like the "Star Trek" characters, and have a global political system. Really every country in the world is in the same boat financially and we all complain about the same topics.... If all the countries combined all their asseset maybe no one would ever be poor, lonely, hungry or ill again. 

Sound off the wall? M<aybe but I get so tired of everyone bashing everyone else. If we were all under the same laws, economy etc, We wouldn't have to be angry with anyone else. No more borders disputes, no more governments fighting back and forth over lands or commodities like oil. All for one purpose, one for all purposes, All in peace.

 

October 21, 2010
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They increased the retirement age several years ago to 67 in U.S. and we the workers didn't even hear about it. They push us around here as a herd of sheep.

Labor productivity increased at least 18 to 20 times within the last century, we didn't even get a one hour reduction in working day. Plus the real wage declining or at best flat within the last 30 years. Now, they want to increase retirement age.

So, what is the purpose of our life, is it to produce ever increasing profits for the capitalists so they can have fulfillment in their life with their growing capital and thus find happiness ? Can't, we the workers, after bearing a life of alienation and exploitation, have a few years to do meaningful things in our retirement, before passing away. Is this too much to ask

French workers are fighting back for all of us, as they always did.

October 21, 2010
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I think that its something worth fighting for, but if the government cant pay they cant pay. So we shouldn't try to pressure them.

October 21, 2010
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Viva la France and the French workers. Why should the American workers bail out the Capitalists and Billionaires who caused this crisis. It was not an accident. They inflated the market to grab the money and knew it would collapse eventually.

 

They dismantled all the safety boundaries between safe banking and Las Vegas gambling which had been created in the Great Depression. The French workers know it is better for them to retire early and let the young have their jobs.

 

Of course they work 9 weeks less than the wage slaves in this country and get an average of 6-7 weeks vacation. Compare that to American wage slaves getting 2 weeks if they are lucky. Maybe the American worker will finally wake up.

October 22, 2010
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Don't wait, quit now.  Sit on your butt by the mailbox and wait for your check.  Hundreds of thousands of Americans are already doing it, so you won't be alone.  Just be another person who won't lift a finger to help yourself.  You shouldn't have to support yourself... somebody else OWES that to you.

Send France a letter... maybe they'll send you a check, too.

October 22, 2010
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This idea of government sponsored retirement is wrong anyway.  Most people have a lot they can contribute to a post-industrial society at age 60.  Should those who work slave harder so I can sit on a couch and waste away?  If I want to retire early, it should be totally my choice.....I can save more money instead of looking for someone to subsidize my leisure.  I plan to keep working and contributing until I'm so slow that I'm just in the way.....and then perhaps I'll find something else meaningful that helps others.  Supporting retirements for able-bodied people in their 60s only takes away from those who really NEED more substantial government support, like those who are physically impaired.  Even Lenin said "From those according to their abilities, to those according to their NEEDS".

October 22, 2010
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This is a classic example why Plato didn't believe in Democracy.  He said that as soon as the people realize they can vote themselves entitlements, they'll bankrupt the government.  These French rioters are behaving like children.....as soon as the parents tell them they can't afford what they want, they throw a tantrum.

October 22, 2010
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That is a good example of why our government must keep entitlements under control. Once you give, you cannot take away easily. There is a law of physics that says a body in motion tends to stay in motion. An inert body tends to stay inert. A person with entitlement tends to stay entitled.  

October 22, 2010
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"These French rioters are behaving like children.....as soon as the parents tell them they can't afford what they want, they throw a tantrum."

 

Good charactarization; in your patronizing perspective the workers are children who need to be OBEDIENT.

 

Can't afford what? To continue to subsidize the Billionaires and millionaires who lately make most of their money adding nothing to the economy but gambling Las Vegas style on which way the markets will go. If these spoiled BRATS payed their fair share there would be PLENTY of MONEY for DIGNIFIED RETIREMENT.

 

So work till you drop; could care less, but in a Civilized country people would retire at 60. Forty years of work in this capitalist machine grinding people down to nothing is PLENTY. Viva La French.

October 22, 2010
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I have never understood America's hostility to France.  There would not be an America had not France aided the USA in its war of independence.

France has never harmed the USA. It warned them of the idiocy of attacking Iraq illegally and unprovoked, and time has proved them right. That is what a good friend does.

October 22, 2010
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I'm sorry but no one in France retires at 60, unless you're like a train driver or something -seriously don't believe what you read. Everyone's being overly simplistic. You don't get full retirement pension till 65 and now 67 for the generation born after 1960. And our generation didn't start working at 19!

October 22, 2010
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Once again most of the media thinks the French are being unrealistic, and should just get with the program like everyone else. The argument is that life expectancy is increasing, so “we all” have to work longer. However this is a bit like reporting half of a baseball score (or soccer if you prefer). On the other side is the fact that productivity and GDP also increase over time, and so it is indeed possible for the French to choose to spend more years in retirement, and pay for it.

 

France’s retirement age was last set in 1983. Since then, GDP per person has increased by 45 percent. The increase in life expectancy is very small by comparison and much of it is due to reduced infant mortality, which does not affect the number of years spent in retirement. The number of workers per retiree declined from 4.4 in 1983 to 3.5 in 2010. But the growth of national income was vastly more than enough to compensate for the demographic changes, including the change in life expectancy. The situation is similar going forward: The growth in national income over the next 30 or 40 years will be much more than sufficient to pay for the increases in pension costs due to demographic changes, while still allowing future generations to enjoy much higher living standards than people today. It is simply a social choice as to how many years people want to live in retirement and how they want to pay for it.

 

 

October 22, 2010
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VIVA LA FRANCE. MY HAT'S OFF TO THE FRENCH, THEY HAVE MORE BALLS THAN MOST AMERICANS. HERE WE JUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING THROWN AT US BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. IVE LOST MY COMPASSION FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS THEY HAVE BECOME NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF WHINING

SCHRIVELLING COWARDS - NO INTESTINAL FORTITUDE AT ALL.

October 22, 2010
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The French have two faces one for each other the other for the world. No guts and spoiled child syndrome. Take your panty waste rear ends back to work and stop yer crying.wuss's 

October 22, 2010
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The reason the U.S. is passionate about the French protests is that the U.S. Media has done a terrible, misleading job of telling us the whole story. In France you get REDUCED benefits any time before age 65. In fact, you can't collect at all before 65 unless you've worked 40.5 years or more -measured by the month, not the quarter as in the USA. Consequently a much higher percent of Americans can collect SS at 62 than can the French!

Consequently, what are the protests about? It's mainly a complain by a minority that is saying, with a lot of good-thinking, "I've worked EVERY month for over 40 years since I was a teenager and now you want ME to wait to collect reduced SS until the same age as those who worked fewer years than me?"

October 22, 2010
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This whole France thing (Socialism) smells surprisingly like Obamacare and his policies.  Large groups refuse to work and still demand pay, benifits while the people who actually work are overtaxed.

October 22, 2010
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Maybe we should let Obama go and run France. His policies and procedure might work over there.

October 22, 2010
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Well you can't change the policy in midstream. If you've been working 40 years and looking foward to retiring at 60 and now are told you have to work 2 more that would suck. Seems they could inact this gradually, allowing people to retire with a reduced rate or something.   However the US could learn something about more vacation time and fewer hours in the workweek With all the unemployment wouldn't it make since to have a four day workweek with a few more employees to pick up the other hours, hence you have more balance of the workload instead of some working 40 to 50 hours and some not working at all and collecting unemployment and other benefits paid for by those that work. 

October 22, 2010
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Let the strikes continue until the French government honors the people by taking all that it needs to keep the retirement age the same from the profits of all French corporations. It’s time for governments of the people to stop solving their problems by always taking from the people! Take it from the corporate Beast that grows fat on the people! And if any such companies wish to leave or refuse then take it and kick them out. And if none of them will deal with France again, so be it; she is better off that the corporate Beast feast on the sheep of this world than the people. And if the public servants of the French Fifth Republic haven’t the wisdom to do the bidding of their true master, the people of France, then let their be revolution; there are plenty of numbers left for as many Republics as may be required to satisfy the people. This is not just about retirement; it is about reminding all governments and all corporations that they serve the people or they will serve nobody!

 

- Julie Labrouste aka Voltairine

 

October 22, 2010
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Retirement at 60 is nothing compared to what career military in the US get when they retire in their mid 40's with half pay and full benefits, and then many get civil service jobs with even better pay and benefits.

October 22, 2010
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First off noone is a weakling because they don't want to be a wage slave for the capitalists, unless they are working in a cooperative where the profits are shared. If you fools who would rather work like slaves for these bullies than make art, make love, etc, etc. than be my guest, but the rest of us can decide democratically that we want to opt out of that deadend.

 

Ride the buses in the major cities and see the people emotionally and physically destroyed by capitalism. Get out of your suburban privilige of never having to sit next to one of these unfortunate people who will never reach their potential because they have been DESTROYED BY CAPITALISM.

 

Viva la French; they march for us. Thank you.

 

October 22, 2010
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Vive JimD43!

October 28, 2010
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God’s In Charge

 

The 2008 Presidential election is part of history. God’s will was realized by the American People.  The fact is that more than 120 million Americans went to the voting booth and elected President Barack Obama, by 17 million more votes than McCain & Palin.  These are the facts.  African Americans only make up a small percentage (13%) of the American electorate.  The Youth vote, Evangelical Christian, Hispanic, Independents and some die-hard Republicans voted; guided by the will of God which I think played a major role in electing President Obama. 

America and the World became a better place, because the American people carried out God’s will. President Obama captured the White house, by winning voters from the middle of the electorate.  He also won half of the votes of the Independents, and (66%) of the under age 30 voters.  Catholic’s voted in support of Obama in large numbers.

President Obama took office when an economy was losing 700 thousand jobs a month, banks and business began sliding down a slippery slope into a depression, and the world economic systems was on the brink of turmoil. 

Many world economies suffered greatly because of the world financial crisis, caused by greed and the over extension of investors trying to reap the benefits of former President Bush and Dick Cheney- starting two wars; one in Afghanistan and then Iraq two years later, the war spending of more than 10 billion a month, and more than 100 thousand Iraq’s (Son’s of Iraq) on the Federal payroll.  Tax breaks given to the wealthiest 2% of Americans plus the drop in tax receipt caused world markets to become jittery of American economic policies and priorities.  The wars started the world economic decline.  The world’s gold reserves became ever more valuable.  World housing values, stock markets, 401K and pension reserves nosed dived in 2007and begin the decline in 2006. 

In September of 2008, the lame duck Bush Administration passed the 787 Billion dollar bailout of the financial institution,   giving money to the wealthiest segment of American society.  Domestic financial markets started to rebound, banks and business started to get their arms around the world financial crisis and get their feet on solid ground.

The passage of several, domestic spending bills (TARP) by President Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress, helped to stave off, an economic collapse for America.  Millions of American needed help because of the, housing bubble and the failed republican policies, record number of unemployed at the end of the Bush Administration. The world financial problems came to a head and World Leaders came together to address currency values and economic cooperation in order to halt a world economic collapse.

 

 

 

President Obama has passed legislation that is historic.  Ending the War in Iraq, Health Care Reform, Women Equal Pay Law, Wall Street Reform Law and other legislation, with no help from the Republican Party. 

Around the world America is once again respected for its leadership and forward thinking.  Nations are willing to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism.

God gets all the glory for the success of President Obama. The Republican and Tea Party joined forces in this country would like to see this success nullified. Their arms are too short to fight against God!  In the end they will not win. (Romans 8:31)  What then shall we say of these things?  If God is for us, who can be against us?

The will of God will once again be realized.  The Democrats will make gains, in both the House and Senate.  The Republicans will lose, starting with Joe Miller, Sharon Angle, Carli Fiorina, Meg Whitman, and Christine O’ Donnell, Rand Paul, Carl Paladino, and others being backed by the Tea party (backed by Karl Rove, John McCain, Sara Palin and the Bush followers).

                     God"s Good Graces

God has blessed President Obama and Frist Lady Michelle you with a loving touch

Only God blessed me to love you so much

Today we honor you and pray that God keeps you for thee

Heaven only knows the sacrifices you made

We pray that God watch over Sasha & Meliah your precious ones

Rejoicing always in the Lord for that is our hope

Special Barack, because God Almighty made you for America

Day and Night Mr. .President do all you can do

Angles of Good and Mercy and their bountiful blessing are with you

President Obama and First Family we love you and God loves you too

Claudej007@aol.com

October 28, 2010
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                     God's Good Graces

 

God has blessed President Obama and Frist Lady Michelle you with a loving touch

Only God blessed America to love you so much

Today we honor you and pray that God keeps you for thee

Heaven only knows the sacrifices you made

We pray that God watch over Sasha & Meliah your precious ones

Rejoicing always in the Lord for that is our hope

Special Barack, because God Almighty made you for America

Day and Night Mr. .President do all you can do

Angles of Good and Mercy and their bountiful blessing are with you

President Obama and First Family we love you and God loves you too

 

October 28, 2010
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If I wanted to here Arrested Development I would of tuned into BET I wanted to here currant news current affairs and topics currant and important to today

It seems ever since the president was elected CNN has gone out of its way to be more afro american friendly some what over the top going to fare maybe CNN should change its name to BET/CNN people are not stupid some time you just go to fare and try to much like the white neighbor of the tv show in the 70's the jeffersons trying to act black and looking foolish

what is going to happen if he looses 2012 and the tea party of republicans take office will you hire Lew Dobbs back ?

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