Friday, October 29, 2010
Overheard on CNN.com

CNN.com readers were divided over the Transportation Security Administration's plan to pat down airline passengers – even after reports of that an al Qaeda group was suspected of trying to ship suspicious packages on cargo flights to the United States. Some commenters felt the searches were too invasive, but others said it was just part of keeping travelers safe.

 

Commenters also had a lot to say about premature ejaculation and Celine Dion's twins.

 

TSA to phase in new pat-down procedures at airports nationwide

 

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1,979 comments and 1,464 Facebook shares

 

Practical

People are so sensitive. What does it matter if someone touches you? Would you rather die in an explosion than let someone wearing gloves look for explosives under your clothes. Get over it!

 

lurid

You don't really seem to understand what's at stake here. My fiancé was the victim of a violent sexual assault, she's afraid even to allow me to touch here down there sometimes and we've been together ten years. How do you think she's going to react to some stranger wanting to touch her inappropriately?

 

DrClue

Ever notice that in more spaces, places and moments our government is starting to act like those they say we are being protected from?

 

fastball

People ... It's the rules. If you want to fly, get over being touched on occasion. If you can't get over it, drive or take the train. But, let me make one thing perfectly clear. ... If and when an incident happens on a US plane that could have been … detected by a cursory pat down or a momentary electronic scan - I hope you never ever raise your voice here again.

 

timetoread

It really isn't that complicated. Prepare for security. Dress lightly and don't wear metals. I am a frequent flyer and I have become accustomed to the little hassles for my personal safety.

 

george165

I accept reasonable security. However this is not reasonable.

 

Men and sex: Survival of the quickest

275 comments and 580 Facebook shares

 

Zsa ZSa

You could try the stop & start again method, takes patience & practice. I believe some guys are used to having sex on the run & never learn to control ejaculation. A lot of it is mind over matter. It's awful for the woman too, very frustrating.

 

Antonio Camargo

This is all crap. The norm is quick ejaculation and the disease is slow ejaculation. PE was invented by doctors, therapists, drug companies and counselors just with the intention of making money for them. All mammals are programmed to have fast ejaculation to guarantee prevalence over the competition. Fast ejaculation is all about Darwin, natural selection and the will to prevail over other males.

 

Drin King Water

PE is not a problem. If the guy is so turned on that he PE , then that's awesome. Why do these voodoo doctors in lab coats treat everything as a problem? I once dated a guy that PE all the time and I thought it was amazing. I mean, to bring pleasure from the slightest touch was fantastic.

 

Celine Dion names her twins

157 comments and 252 Facebook shares

 

complexbear

Good for her... not naming them Pilot, Apple, Zuma, Jermajesty, Blanket, or any of those other celebrity baby names that are gonna get the poor kids asses kicked all through school.

 

pitwieler

Actually both are normal names - good for you both for not going with the stupid Hollywood "we're so famous and rich we can name our kids anything we want" mentality.

 

Flier100

Whew, acceptable names this time. I was expecting Sunshine, Tractor, Sailor, Typhoon or some similar eccentricity.

 

Your Take

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Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

22 Comments
October 29, 2010
Click to view dwight's profile

There can never be too much safety involved with airport security. Even if the person is subjected to a full body cavity search for a supposed bomb then so be it. Terrorist's will put a bomb anywhere to get it through to it's target.

October 29, 2010
Click to view fensterbaby's profile

Wow, really dwight? A body cavity search? Are you kidding me?

 

People need to get a sense of reality here. The perception of the threat is way out of proportion to the reality.

 

The attitude seems to be a willingness to sacrifice any and all freedoms in order to protect our freedoms. Okay.

 

It's time for every American to sit down and re-read George Orwell's 1984. It's here. It's a reality right now.

 

We are at war with terrorism, we have always been at war with terrorism, we will always be at war with terrorism.

 

It's the ultimate bogey man - the government can pretty much do anything it wants in the name of security and nobody will say jack.

 

Another irony - folks who think we can't have too much security or be too invasive about it are the same ones who say they want smaller government. Homeland Security is the largest bureaucracy in history and it's just... getting.. bigger EVERY day.

October 29, 2010
Click to view LetsSucceed's profile

Ever notice how a measly terror threat is released and all of sudden we have to add these precautions and regulations. Truth is, I would rather blow up then to have all these bullshit laws and regulations put on me everyday, slowly taking away what freedoms we do have left.

‎"A man who is willing to trade a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security, deserves neither and will lose both." -Ben Franklin

 

October 29, 2010
Click to view Caldon77's profile

People who offer a stance of do this or blow up, such as would you rather blow up or be touched, are offering up a logical fallacy (False Dilemma) as their stance and it would never fly in any sort of real, logical discussion on an issue.

October 29, 2010
Click to view well9999's profile

i dont mind the random pat downs for security even though i cringe when i get the dredded XXXXX on the bottom of my ticket. where i do draw the line (and i wrote this earlier) is when they pat down people or children who shouldn't be....my 3yo was given a pat down after he had an unopened pediasure (for those non parenting types--special milk w/ extra vits for children) in his back pack. i mean really...a full pat down?? rolling down the front of his pants. boston logan, you really think my 3yo is going to blow up the plane with milk? opened tubes of toothpaste (travel size of course) are fine but not an unopened child's milk? seriously? i dont get it

October 29, 2010
Click to view thaevid's profile

So I'm just curious; has anyone produced a study to show how many lives have been saved (or how many attacks thwarted) by these measures? 

October 29, 2010
Click to view srmcnamara's profile

If you can't deal with the extra security, then walk to where ever you want to go.  There are people out there that want to kill you.  TSA is trying to save your life. If you can't deal with that inconvenience then, don't travel.

October 29, 2010
Click to view wrlord's profile

Funny how no one seems to point out that these extended and invasive searches violate the Fourth Amendment.

October 30, 2010
Click to view retep000's profile

The really funny thing is that nobody noticed this comment board was supposed to be about the other comment boards on this site. The TSA is a joke, a really bad joke at that, PE is a fact of life, and who really cares what that tone deaf canuk named her kids?

The point is, most of the people who comment on these boards are pretty dumb. The spelling and grammar aside, I am really worried about how many idiots we have in this country. The polarizing issues of religion and politics seem to draw out the worst on both sides of both issues. You are either for us or against us. There is no middle of the road here anymore... You are either a communist-liberal-democrat or a nazi-conservative-republican, either pro-Israeli or an anti-semite, a christian or you are going to burn in hell. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and opinions are like a$$holes: everybody has one, and most of them stink.

The one thing that everybody who comments on this site needs to remember is that winning an argument on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, in the end you are still retarded.

October 30, 2010
Click to view GeneralTso's profile

To all those who say "don't fly", what if work requires it?  What if you live in New York or Philadelphia and your work requires you to be in Los Angeles the following morning/afternoon?  What are you going to do, not go?  Heck, the reason you have to work so hard and do all this crazy nonsense is because you need your job.  The government screwed up the economy so this job means more to you than it ever did before.  Beyond the fact the government screwed things up with the economy, what about all the nonsense taxes and the corruption you're being forced to give money to?  I can understand the concept of taxation, but a lot of what we're being "taxed" for is the government's way of getting some of your paycheck to pay for "the rights to freedom".  Last time I checked, us mere mortal citizens are paying for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, and Whateverstan to be free.  

 

Flying is more than just a luxury.  Flying isn't what it was 40 years ago and you can't just not fly as much as you could back in the day.  Many jobs require the use of air travel and there is currently no alternative to aircraft for long distance travel in (relatively) short periods of time. 

 

I think all the security is nonsense.  I understand basic security (metal detector, emptying pockets, etc.), but to take off shoes, take your laptop completely out of the case, and giving them all liquids in container larger than 4 oz. is just completely ridiculous.  What am I gonna do, blow up the plane with my bottle of Poland Spring?  I wouldn't be surprised if that bottle of Poland Spring water was part of "explosives" that were found earlier today.

 

And what am I to do as an average citizen?  It's not like I can run for office since I can't just quit my job.  It's not like I can make some sort of substantial change form my job as a paper pusher.  What can be done?  It's a vicious cycle that's been exploited and will continue to suck in more of our problems and potential problems to create utter havoc.

 

When I think about it, maybe the world will end in 2012.  Maybe the world will have gone completely crazy on that winter day from the nonsense and baloney that we deal with because of government.  I have both conservative views on things and liberal views on things, but this is to the point of fascism.  And I can't do a darn thing about it because I need to be a citizen and do what the government tells me to do.

 

What a world we live in :-/

October 30, 2010
Click to view weirdmn's profile

I don't fly anymore, nor shall I ever fly again, so I don't care.

October 30, 2010
Click to view Scudmaster's profile

The existing regulations are far too intrusive, and do little, if anything, to add to my security.  I am unwilling to fly anymore unless I am absolutely required to do so by my employer, and it is always a uniformly miserable experience. The terrorists have already won, reducing us to cattle in a slaughter chute and making our lives far less enjoyable; the US government has played right into their hands.

 

There is no excuse for or benefit from the current rules, and this newest intrusion is completely uncalled for by any but the most paranoid standard. If we lose ten planes a year to terrorist bombs, that will still be a savings in lives lost over the number of deaths caused by people like me avoiding airports and driving farther than we should.

 

What an asinine fiasco this whole TSA thing has become...

October 30, 2010
Click to view george165's profile

The security procedures are too invasive and a waste of time.  The statistical odds of being killed by a terrorist are lower than winning the lottery ... twice!

October 30, 2010
Click to view george165's profile

I get to the airport really early for my flight ... just so I can slow down the security line.  My form of protest!

October 30, 2010
Click to view DrMabuse's profile

It amazes me that many comments on the Web support the invasive protocols at airports. Just so people can have the illusion of safety, they are willing to be subjected to the unconstitutional procedures and indignations of the TSA. It's about time someone with a backbone in our government stood up and put a stop to this. But the chance of finding someone with a backbone in DC would be the same as being killed by a terrorist's bomb on an airplane.

October 30, 2010
Click to view dr1452's profile

I wouldn't fly if it wasn't required for my job,it's just too much BS.I can't wait till someone screams that they were groped by one of these TSA idiots.All this security is crap I mean how many terrrorist threats have they stopped? I think the answer is none.

October 30, 2010
Click to view G8R1997's profile

I love all the Nazis on here that are willing to freely let the government poke and prod them as long as they hear a mindless drumbeat of "safety" messages.  It's amazing how stupid the masses are in this country, that they think the TSA screeners are going to keep them safe from terrorists when 0% of cargo shipments and food/drink caterers are screened, even though those items are going on the same plane as the passengers!  LOL  People are willing to let the government take x-rays of their entire body and then believe TSA when they say they don't save the images (even though TSA employees have already been found laughing and comparing breast size and penis size of passengers).  DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY DELETE THE IMAGES IMMEDIATELY?  ARE YOU REALLY DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY PULL UP THE IMAGE IF A PASSENGER CAUSSED AN INCIDENT ON A FLIGHT?!  JUST HOW F*&^#ING STUPDID ARE YOU?

October 30, 2010
Click to view teremist's profile

The issue is, are we willing to sacrifice all of our fourth amendment rights, in the name of security? I am an AMERICAN citizen, and I can prove it. IF we allow non law enforcement personnel, with little training, the authority to do "pat-downs" on their personal whims, then it is a very thin line, to cavity searches without reasonable cause, by these same NON LAW ENFORCEMENT entities. This is unreasonable. The new virtual imaging machines violate my right and reasonable expectation of privacy of my person, and the images can be stored and sent anywhere the operator chooses. (Despite claims to the contrary.)

I can imagine horrifying abuses of this technology and the new, "pat down" procedures. There are thousands of AMERICANS, who have medical devices and prosthesis, what will they be forced to endure, at every airport? If I am a woman who has endured mastectomy, and now wears special forms and devices, how horrifying! If I am a survivor of sexual assault, how TRAUMATIC!

  The TSA, can NOT re-write the constitution, nor can it give powers of search and seizure to ill-trained CIVILIANS. I can see the law-suits already.

November 1, 2010
Click to view Augustina13's profile

I think its a good idea to X-ray the packages that go through the UPS airlines. It will insure safety. But its not like its anything new for the world to abuse technology the way they do. Its really not. But i am hoping that i never get caught on a passenger plane when one of these people decided to detonate a bomb with me on board.

November 8, 2010
Click to view dariyana's profile

cool

 

November 8, 2010
Click to view lyjiran's profile

she is very nice!

November 9, 2010
Click to view Juliett's profile

Well not only do "they" have pull at the airports by crying about being targeted and intolerance, "they" have pull right here on CNN as I have noticed that I can comment about blacks, jewish, Koreans, Russians, my own people the Germans, or any other religion, race, creed, or sex, but if I use the "M" word, I get a message saying my comment must be approved by a moderator. I find that to be very very odd.

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