Monday, November 15, 2010
Overheard on CNN.com: X-ray vision

 

COMMENT OF THE DAY: " 'The big bad gubment touch me down there.' These people ... will be the first ones to scream for more security if terrorists strike again with airplanes. If they want to look at outlines of my junk, have a blast." --happyhiker

 

The video showing software engineer John Tyner refusing an X-ray scan at the San Diego, California, airport, including a request that officials not "touch [his] junk" during a pat-down, has sparked a debate over screening procedures that is getting tons of comments.

 

Check out CNN.com readers' response to this and other stories.

 

TSA: Despite objections, all passengers must be screened

 

Overall, readers were split between those who don't mind airport security procedures at all -- some even preferred the X-ray scanner -- and those who were outraged about the potential for invasion of privacy and other issues. Several commenters compared X-ray scans to pat-downs. Many of the posts were quite colorful. One unsigned submitter said, "How much longer until we are required to bend over and endure the cold finger of 'security'?" Another poster, PSAGuy, said, "Man are we a nation of prudes! Big whoop. Someone sees you naked in a scanner. Who cares?"

 

Despite the discussion being silly at times, lots of important issues were discussed. Many of our commenters said that getting X-rayed is "not a big deal," as did Macker1283, although "the guy seeing your skeleton on the other side of the curtain might know whether you wear boxers or briefs!" In one exchange, ED4 wrote: "Apparently it will take a successful airline bombing before these people believe the threat is real. Near misses don't seem to count." PilarJ responded, "We believe the threat, we just aren't buying the idea that this does anything about it." While AwesomeBob brashly said he wanted ladies to be aware that he had "nothing to be ashamed of," effedup noted he was concerned. "I wonder how long it's gonna be before we have to submit to this type of screening to board any train, bus, or boat here in the U.S.? And how long after that are we gonna start getting pulled over while we are driving down the street so they can scan us and our car and make sure we're not al Qaeda?"

 

Arizona voters approve medical marijuana law

 

By a margin of about 4,300 votes, Arizona voters approved a ballot measure that would legalize medical marijuana, state election officials said Sunday. Our commenters were almost universally in favor of this outcome. A significant portion of the discussion centered around surprise that California didn't pass Proposition 19 and references to the illegal immigration controversy in Arizona. Larry789 wrote, "Wow, good for you citizens of Arizona, didn't think you had it in you." Or, as scranton said, "Just legalize it already and be done with it." Some commenters insinuated that Proposition 19's failure was because of underground markets' fear of competition or regulation.

 

bremen3011 wrote, "I'm sure medicinal marijuana has it's benefits, but I think it's gonna be abused mostly to just get weed and get high legally. As for Proposition 19, even if it did pass in California, it wouldn't have been legal under federal laws meaning as hard as California tries to keep it, it will get shut down by the government. All it was was a sense of false hope for all the potheads and supporters. I live in Arizona, and I'm cool with medicinal marijuana. Just keep that crap out of my face is all I ask. It smells terrible and makes people stupid." This poster got a response from heisnot: "I agree. But I think it is important to make a clear note that this was passed in Arizona. Whereas California didn't pass their recent Prop 19. It's very telling of the mentality of Democratic voters lately. You guys don't support your own kind."

 

Pastor says student's suicide was tipping point for his coming out

 

The founder and pastor of a Georgia megachurch said Saturday that the September suicide of Rutgers University student Tyler Clementi was the tipping point for his decision to come out of the closet to his congregation. We received many, many comments on this Belief blog post regarding the church and Clementi's story. PGF said, "It's a pity to have a situation like this at this time but good for the 'man of God' for at least he confessed; however he MUST step aside as the pastor of that church because souls will be lost as the church will be divided over this development and his intention to remain as the 'pastor in charge.'" Miranda thought about the family: 'I feel sorry for the women that this pastor had children with. Imagine being married to a man who then decides he's gay."

 

Frogist wrote, "I am glad you have started on your path of authenticity for what you feel is important in your life. But I am most glad that Tyler's story made an impact on you. And that his death has created an opportunity for honesty and acceptance." We also have a Belief commenter who uses the moniker Jesus, and he wrote: 'If I hear one more person use my name as an excuse to judge others and hate another because you think that's what I'm thinking, you have no idea what it means to be a compassionate, authentic human being.' The post got a reply from Peace2All: "@Jesus ... This seems to me, in my opinion, like something the real Jesus would say."

 

YOUR TURN: Now that you've read what other people are saying, do you find that your views align with theirs? Think of this as a wishing well in need of your 2 cents. Post a comment below or sound off on video. Compiled by the CNN.com comment moderation staff. Some comments edited for length and clarity.

69 Comments
November 15, 2010
Click to view camal's profile

an airport pat-down is more action than a lot of folks get in a year!

November 15, 2010
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I have a nice pair of speedoos...and it's cool with me if I have to strip down to only wear them during the screening process, I do it all the time at the beach and I have no problem with that...My question for the TSA is, would that be enough for them to visually see the shape of my junk or they still need to touch it??

November 15, 2010
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"I don't care if they see me naked."

 

Weakest argument ever.  So you're comfortable in your own skin?  I don't care in the slightest.  I have a 5 year old daughter.  She had to either be seen naked or groped to get on a flight now?  Insanity.

 

Additionally, everyone -knows-, but it somehow always get left out of the official articles, that imaging and pat-downs will NOT stop any slightly determined terrorist!

 

For example:  The underwear bomber.  What would imaging show TSA?  Underwear shaped item right where underwear should be located, so no security flag.

 

Also, if prisoners are willing to stash drugs/weapons in their rectum, why wouldn't a terrorist?  Someone PLEASE explain how imaging or a detailed pat-down would prevent this.

 

Go ahead.  The rest of us (the sane ones) will be waiting for an answer.

November 15, 2010
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Well, at least, the government is now more powerful than god 'cuz we are right here on earth. So be it!!

November 15, 2010
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Flying is not an entitlement. And commerical air is regulated by the Feds (good thing). If you don't like it, walk or drive from point A to point B.

November 15, 2010
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Do Obama, Clinton, et al. have to get a pat down?  Post that on online.

November 15, 2010
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Actually, the constitution does enshrine the freedom to travel where one will without undue interference from the government.  So travel is a right, not a privelege.  Now the problem with the TSA is their utter ineffectualness.  Let's face it.  The 9/11 terrorists did not take their weapons on board the plane.  The weapons were placed there by cohorts working for the airlines, in the maintenance areas.  Is someone screening everything that goes on a plane?  Meals?  Magazines?  This is simply security theater.  The show of security with absolutely no effect on the overall safety of the airlines.  Honestly, we have more to worry about with poor maintenance of the planes by their owners than we have from terrorists.  Check the statistics for accidents due to faulty and poorly maintained planes as opposed to crashes caused by terrorism.  I'd much prefer the government step in and slam the inspectors taking bribes to look the other way as inspection records are falsified so the airlines can drop a few more bucks in the profit column at the end of the year.

November 15, 2010
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IF you don't want to get pated-down or x-rayed at the airport grab your car and go driving or take a boat.

 

Americans complains about absolutely everything even if it means to cover their asses.

November 15, 2010
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I think we should implement two types of airlines and airports. One with security and one without. Darwin/Economy laws will show who survives. Either industry NO patdowns/x-rays will become so popular and WITHOUT patdowns/x-rays go bankrupt. Or NO patdowns will be eliminated by terrorists.

November 15, 2010
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If I were a terrorist I would get me and my terrorist buddies to bring explosives into the most crowded shopping malls on Black Friday and set those off...

 

I am not concerned with the plane I fly on being blown up as much as I am with our rights being eroded.

 

I am willing to take the risk that a plane might get blown up in exchange for my liberty and rights.  If you don't like it then don't fly!  Both my brother and I generally drive at all costs even on trips exceed 2,000 miles, burning lots of gas and polluting the environment in addition to the fuel burned and pollution released by the jet.  Only on rare and necessary occasions do we fly and if so we will fly first class.

November 15, 2010
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All I am going to say is that if someone is going to grab my crotch, I expect a kiss to go with it.

November 15, 2010
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I'm so confused; the very people who demand more security are the same ones who whine about new security measures.

I mean, I figure the security folks probably see thousands of people daily anyway, what makes you (one person) so special that they'll care that they can see you naked? It's like thinking that the people at the DMV will remember your face.

November 15, 2010
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BardMorgan Wrote: "Let's face it.  The 9/11 terrorists did not take their weapons on board the plane.  The weapons were placed there by cohorts working for the airlines, in the maintenance areas."

 

No they didn't, they walked right through security with them because the policy was that any blade under 4 inches (or some similar length) was permitted. There's never been any evidence what-so-ever that any other method was used -- including accomplices who worked at the airport/airline.

November 15, 2010
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Can the scanner look inside your rectum? No it cant. When the terroists start carrying bombs in their bottoms will they require cavity searches to fly or just increase the radiation in the X-rays and give us all cancer?

November 15, 2010
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What exactly is someone going to stash in their underwear that they couldn't just load in their carry-on bags?

November 15, 2010
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Once again, the critics of us who value our freedoms have yet to answer how to prevent cavity-stored weapons.  They just tell us to "get over it, or drive your car" without actually contributing a useful response.

 

Having the TSA see my 5-year old kid naked, or feeling my kid up (or any of the rest of us) does NOTHING to prevent a terrorist attack.  Nothing.  Bupkus.

 

Again, the rest of us wait for an explanation we know isn't coming.

November 15, 2010
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This footage of people being scanned and exrayed have a familial ring to them, visions of third world dictator countries I used to read about in my History book.  Hey complacent americans who don't care,  Al queda won.  They took americans freedoms and liberties away not to mention our privacy. On a more personal note. I was a victiom of child molestation,  I am certainly not gonna allow my government to molest me for the sake of security.

November 15, 2010
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I'm done. No more flying for me. I'll drive from now on. No way I'm going to allow these guys to molest me and my family. It's just not worth it.

November 15, 2010
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No one is advocating for removal of all security, but we need EFFECTIVE security.  What we need is to use our existing intelligence.  We KNOW some people have trained with terrorists.  We KNOW that some people are in contact with extreme radicals.  These are the people who need to be put on a no fly list - and one that is actually effective.  The run of the mill Joe is not a threat, but yet we are spending money on screening the average Joe instead of correcting problems with the no fly list and making sure our intelligence is actually used.

 

Our security has been a farce for a while.  We take off our shoes & send them through the x-ray, but the scanners ARE NOT CAPABLE of detecting explosives like the shoe bomber used.  Many experts think these new body scanners would not catch the underwear bomber.  We are tired of FAKE security.

 

All the people who are so happy to give up part of our American identity, our freedoms, for this FACADE of safety need to get a clue.  These new techniques DO NOT make us safer.

November 15, 2010
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I will take this Argument to Congress to get the action of invasive Pat Downs which are done by people with no college degree, and for the most part have the crappiest background check ever. If the President will not subject his family to this inhumane embarrassing inspections, then neither should the public.

November 15, 2010
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Where will this all end? If a terrorist is caught on a plane with explosives in his rectum, can we expect a new regulation that requires rectal exams for all passengers?

November 15, 2010
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Where will it all stop. Strip you, probe you...seems to me the terrorists already won...

November 15, 2010
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I personally don't think forced bombardment by X-rays is a joke, CNN. Cancer just isn't that funny.

November 15, 2010
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My last flight was my last fligh. My choice.  I will not tolorate this loss of freedom. I will be responsible for my own security! See Ya!

November 15, 2010
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I might suggest we all write the White House via their website and ask the question..."What happens when the bomb goes off in the rectum or some other private...full cavity search?" I asked - not that I'd get an answer back.

November 15, 2010
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Your dealing with a piece of equipment that has radiation involved.  Your also dealing with people that have had no formal education regarding radiation, radiography, or how these things work (or don't work).  They are not medical people...they haven't a clue how this can affect someone.  We're told that the machines have been "cleared by the FDA"....uh, how many medications have been "cleared" by the FDA and have at a later date been pulled off the market because of the harm they did to people.  How many different types of medical equipment have been "approved and cleared" by the FDA only later to be pulled from the market.  There are Personal Injury Attorneys sharpening their pencils and waiting in line for the public to be harmed by these machines....and to take their cases.  Go through the scanner?  No way in Hell.....pat me down?  Whatever gets you off....go for it....but it will be done in full view of the public...grope this grandma, I've been groped by the best...and they ain't one of them!!

November 15, 2010
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It's quite simple...have the TSA people wear spongebob costumes....NOBODY can get upset about spongebob groping their stuff.

November 15, 2010
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i would prefer pat downs. especially performed by blondes with heels on...

November 15, 2010
Click to view MBinCalifron's profile

the answer is to have a special line for full groping inspections.....and it costs $5 extra to go in those lines.

 

...the TSA agents would be SUPER HOT YOUNG BABES in Naughty agent outfits who whisper in your ear while they cup your junk. They'd make hundreds of dollars an hour and each guy would get a sweet checkout. you could get a brad pitt lookalike for the ladies.

 

seriously....it would work.

November 15, 2010
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This B.S. about 'JUNK' is really ignorant.  It is your privates, as it has been called for many, many years.  If you feel it is 'JUNK' perhaps you should throw it away.  And, to imply that you assume the people screening at the airport want to touch your 'PRIVATES' is to assume that perhaps they are gay!!!  Your urologist, obgyn, PCP and other medical people couldn't give a crap less about your 'JUNK'.  Try to refuse a pat down or search at your local police station at your first opportunity!! I feel sorry for you as perhaps your wife or girlfriend calls it 'JUNK' - I guess she would know better than the rest of us.  For all I care, you can have your 'JUNK' amputated, then the TSA would not see the outline of your 'JUNK'!!!  Ever been in the showers in college or the military - never took your towel off did you???

 

November 15, 2010
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First off let me ask....who turns on their cell phone camera to go through security?  This guy planned this whole thing.  Why was he the only one in the San Diego Airport not complain?

 

I will promise you this person did not loose a family member in the 9/11 attacks.

 

These machines are created so there is no way to store any pictures.  To ensure my safety I will do what ever is required to make me, my family and my country safe!!

November 16, 2010
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Sorry that last comment should say "Why was he the only one in the San Diego Airport complaining?"

November 16, 2010
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DBiddle69:  Again, you presume security keeps you and yours safe.  Baloney.  How does a pat-down or imaging device capture a weapon placed in a body cavity (rectum, vagina, stomach?).

 

How?

 

Also, mentioning 9/11 victims means nothing.  The loser hijackers GOT THROUGH SECURITY.  As did the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, etc...

 

People JUST don't get it.

November 16, 2010
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What slippery slope? Oh, you mean that one up there?

November 16, 2010
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@digitalworld - You wrote the White House about the bomb? Yeah, I think you'll be getting an answer back.

November 16, 2010
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Maybe the scanners can help reduce the country's waistline...Who doesn't want to look decent when you're naked?

November 16, 2010
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This isn't about safety or security; This is about desensitizing people to having their privacy stripped away by the government. The people who fly the most are wealthier "opinion leaders". Get them to bend over and the rest of us will have to. Everyone knows this is ineffective for security but effective for stripping people of their privacy and dignity for the "privilege" of being allowed to travel from place to place.

 

Last year someone used my credit information card to book several flights. They stole thousands from the airline but didn't get prosecuted. It appears they didn't keep the address of the criminals as part of the "security".

 

On the other hand I saw a woman with a baby dragged off a plane because of some sort of bench warrant.

This is not about keeping flying safe - it is more like the Gestapo checkpoint in those old WWII movies - "Your papers please..."

November 16, 2010
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911, Yes I was present. A real true American will never compromise his or her safety for human right. If those people do not want to be scan, fine! let them Drive or walk, then their Godly human right will not be violated. As the saying goes, if your house can not sell you, the street will never buy you. A hint to the wise is quite sufficient.

November 16, 2010
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So, some high-tech defense contractor comes-up with an expensive piece of technology with no market.

A few million $$$ to K Street and every airport must buy their otherwise useless product.

No FDA testing like Medical X-Rays - the TSA certifies it is safe. After all this is about "security" not safety or even sanity.

November 16, 2010
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Pat downs are nothing new. I'd rather be patted down that go through an XRAY machine. If the TSA agent gets a little more friskier than normal you'll know. Every time I fly I get patted down because I'm disabled and can't remove my shoe/braces fast enough to be efficient. It would take me 20 minutes to remove and put on not to mention the assistance I would need to actually "walk" through the screen and you can't take another person from what I'm aware of.

 

However, I still think the TSA and general population are taking the security measures a bit too far. In fact I think I'll be making some lead lined undergarments here soon...

November 16, 2010
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My problem is not my getting x-rayed, but my young daughter's getting x-rayed.

November 16, 2010
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I'LL SAY IT AGAIN PEOPLE. FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT RADIATION DOES TO THE BODY, WAAAAKE UPPPPPP. I HAVE WORKED IN RADIOLOGY FOR 15 YRS AND THE MOST COMMON KNOWLEDGE IS THAT BACKROUND SCATTER RADIATION IS THE MOST HARMFUL KIND OF RADIATION YOU CAN GET. IN ORDER FOR X-RAYS TO BE LESS HARMFUL THEY MUST PENETRATE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BODY. THE LESS RADIATION YOU GET, THE WORSE IT ACTUALLY IT IS FOR YOU. THE X-RAYS WILL BE ABSORBED INTO THE TISSUE WITH NOWHERE TO GO. I SAY TO YOU PEOPLE UP IN ARMS AND SCREAMING, " WALK OR DRIVE", GET X-RAYED AND GET CANCER... I WILL BE ASKING FOR PAT DOWNS AS MY EXPOSURE LEVEL IS ALREADY ABOVE THE NORM. STOP THINKING THIS IS JUST ABOUT PRIVACY PEOPLE. THE BIGGEST ISSUE OF ALL IS HEALTH. YOU WILL SEE THE LIFESPAN OF AMERICANS SHRINK DRASTICALLY. I FEAR WHAT THE RESULTS WILL SHOW IN THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YRS. WAKE UP AMERICA.

November 16, 2010
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iReport15 said: "A real true American will never compromise his or her safety for human right."

 

Speaking of body cavities, from out of which one did you pull that opinion?

 

As another saying goes (from probably the smartest of the guys who invented the concept of "american"), "those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither" - Ben Franklin.

 

It's one thing to be safe, and another to give away one's freedom as a knee-jerk response to an inflated threat, particularly when your response is proven to be ineffective.  For every person who thinks as you do, the terrorists feel vindicated.

November 16, 2010
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I did not read all of your comments guys, but I have to say one thing, there are people out there who likes to blow them self up, and one way to pick them out is to have those kind of equipment on the airports and any place necessary. There are just trying to protect you from terrorist, I don't think anyone cares about your body scans =/.

November 16, 2010
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Being able to fly is a privilege ... not a right (just like a drivers license).  The federal government has always controlled the skies, and who can go up in them.  If you're upset about that I suggest you move to Greenland or someplace where they don't care ...

November 16, 2010
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We are doing this to ourselves because of Political Correctness. Apparently it is politically incorrect to Kill your Enemy and to Punish those who are not your enemy. If we Tell Pakistan that enough is enough and bomb the Hell out of the Region where the Taliban are hiding, and bomb them to Hell, and Send in our troops and Onslaught them total annihilation, then maybe they would get the Picture. I am sick of using Drones to Kill Terrorists. If we are going to kill them anyway, use a Nuke, and a Brigade. That is why these Dorky TSA workers are making these headlines.

November 16, 2010
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This blog reporter is unprofessional and lacks ethical integrity.

 

CNN should be ashamed of themselves.

November 16, 2010
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If you are afraid of flying don't fly.  If you are afraid of terrorist then don't fly but my freedoms are mine.  Your fear is not rational .. grow up.  You are wasting time and money that should go someplace else.  If you are so afraid of you fellow citizens, I ask the question ... what did you do?  But taking picture of children naked is illegal in all 50 states and that applies to the government too! 

November 16, 2010
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First, I've been irradiated enough in my life, I'll not accept untested additional irradiation. Not to fit shoes and not for pseudo-security.

Second, I've already received the enhanced "pat down", this much I'll say: It's my WIFE'S job to squeeze my scrotum, not Bob from the TSA.

So, I'll NOT fly.

But, the rest of you can say "whatever it takes", it's what the Germans said to the Nazi's.

Nineteen eighty four was a warning, NOT an instruction manual!

November 16, 2010
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Why in the world did anybody introduce the stupid backscatter (x-ray) scanners? The millimeter-wave technology (which does not use radiation) is available.

It is a paradox: "government" is worried about deaths due to terrorism, but is perfectly happy to accept deaths due to radiation exposure.

 

The USA does more to prevent death by terrorist attacks than to prevent death by heart attacks. Considering the death rates, I think the priorities are a little skewed.

November 16, 2010
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Some of you dingbats are crazy. how can you think its OK to give up your rights to be safe. When its our soldiers who give there lives for those rights. What disrespect! You people make me sick. Don't you dare call yourself an American if you agree with this sick policy. All the lives lost and hard work to make this country free and you want to give it all up. I gave 8 yrs for you @sshols in the Army Infantry and this is what I come back to. A country full of cowards afraid of third world bogeymen. We should round you people up and send you to Afghanistan so you have something to be afraid of. 

November 16, 2010
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Very powerful discussion going on here. I just noticed a couple posts I believe were alluding to my use of humor, and I think they were valid points, so I made some adjustments to the text. It's been very interesting to see how people are responding to this story and issue.

November 16, 2010
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I think patdown doesn't help much  for sure. However, fullbody scan methods can help prevent an attack. If pat down is made available as an alternate screening method for those who refuse fullbody scan, the security is as good as the weakest link, rendering enhanced security useless. I think that better technology may be developed to ensure the privacy and safety of full body scan methods.

 

 

 

November 16, 2010
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Jesus Christ what a bunch of whiners!

 

Who cares if they touch your d!ck? I dont want the plane to blow up

 

get over yourself

November 16, 2010
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No one is asking that there be NO screening.  But taking off the shoes, jackets, belts and metallic items along with removing bottles of shampoo and walking through a metal detector while your bag is x-rayed should be good enough.  In the 10 years since 9/11, NO bomb has been smuggled onto an airliner domestically.  So the if a TSA screener gropes my 13 year old daughter in the vaginal area - I will be humiliated that I could not protect her from behavior that would get any other person, myself included arrested.

November 16, 2010
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Why should trust be just one way? We have an opportunity here to solve the nation's obesity problem and this issue of personal privacy equitably. Let's use a policy of: "show me yours and I'll show you mine". Simply install body scanners in the  TSA monitor room and pipe that video back to the passenger being scanned so each may see the other - TSA employee AND passenger. Or else send in a TSA employee with passengers to hold their hand. Seeing each other naked and no longer strangers each may then use the traditional way to signal no hostile intent - smile and wave. Let passengers also push a channel button to signal preference of the gender scanning them. Can anyone imagine the rush to the gym and the massive "getting in shape" diets that this country would see overnight? Within 24 months obesity would be rarely seen in the USA. wink

November 16, 2010
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Israel's transportation security is known as the finest in the world. And we have sent many representatives over there to learn their successful techniques. So why don't we use any of the techniques they have inplemented so successfully? They tell us our problem is that we look for things, not people. So we end up with a 70-year-old granny in a patdown because she had a nail file in her purse. Unfortunately in this Country, looking for people is called profiling, and that's why everyone is exposed to this silly new security protocol.

November 16, 2010
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Call 1-800-4 A CHILD if you see a TSA pervert touching a child.

November 16, 2010
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hello...this isn't about x rays or someone patting you down..it's about governmental intrusion into our personal space for the sake of safety.  The government claims they are doing this to keep us safe..yet are trampeling on our rights and freedoms to do this..the nazis did the same thing/read your history books...

The TSA "guards" are rude/disrespectful/treat people like crap.  God forbid that you talk back to them.

How the hell is patting down a 13 yr old girl gonna save anyone?  How the hell is gropping granny gonna save anyone? How the hell is frisking a nun(youtube) gonna save anyone?

I mean if a dude is gonna touch my junk..he should be buying me a round first

The TSA is acting like a bully..seeing boogeymen in the shadows and justifying their jobs..so instead of actively targeting middleeastern males from the age of 21-40.(nope can't do that..it's racial profiling)..they would rather sexually grope people who opped out of having their body filled with x rays..

what is next a total strip search? an anal probe?

We haven't had a terrorist attack in like 10 yrs now..airports oversees don't even have these x ray machines or aggressive cavity searches..

When did the US become a police state..and who turned the TSA into the SS...

The new freedom slogan shouldn't be " don't tread on me"..but rather.."dude..don't touch my junk".

November 16, 2010
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I wonder how many parents will sue the TSA for groping their children/and all of it will be fimed via I phones and the like.  I love youtube:> that is a good way to get the word out about these asshole.

 

..I'd love to be on that jury and award the parents 100 million dollars.

My comment to the reporters..."dude I told you not to touch my junk":>

November 16, 2010
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"If you don't like the scanners drive or take a boat." Um last I checked there isn’t to many boat rides that go from Maryland to California. A car perhaps, yeah if I wanna get to where I'm going IN THREE DAYS! Being former military (and overseas as of now) should I really be subjected to x-rays and or pat downs. When was the last time a plane actually blew up from terrorists WITH explosives? I wish! I FREAKING WISH, I was on the planes that hit the towers, because if I was on them the plane I would of been on wouldn't of crashed. The terrorists had mace and box cutters, FREAKIN MACE AND BOXCUTTERS which from what I read and was told were given AFTER THE SECURITY CHECKPOINT. Mace and box cutters? If I was there you'd have 8 dead terrorists with pen holes in their neck. Screw scanning passengers why don't we scan the staff instead. Also more US Marines on the planes never hurts. ;)

November 16, 2010
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Patdowns or radiation? Hmmmm... How bout the passenger gets to choose who pats them down ;)

November 16, 2010
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I know thst we need security but have they gone to far. Whats wrong with what we have know?

November 16, 2010
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November 16, 2010
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When a reporter offers his or her personal opinion, it demeans that person's credibility as a journalist.  Keep your opinions to yourself.

 

CNN used to be a refuge from Faux News, but now constantly asks controversial questions to compete, lowering CNN's credibility as an objective news source.

 

Many of these questions are almost meaningless, such as Wlf Blitzer asking anyone he's talking to the same uninteresting question for the two hundredth time, "How is this going to affect the 2012 election?"  Who cares?  Haven't you heard that there are millions of people who are out of work?  A Nobel Laurette in Economics has repeated stated that we're in a Depression, yet CNN ignores him.

 

How about a story on the difference between the artificial official unemployment rate and what some others call the real unemployment rate, what the US Bureau of Labor Statisitics calls the underemployment rate.  This "underemployment rate" is what the US BLS used to report as the real unemployment rate.  Now, that would be a story!

November 16, 2010
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What Am I Afraid of When Travelling by Plane?

 

The odds that my plane will crash from poor maintenance or other major mechanical failure is several times higher than from any terrorist threat.  The terrorists have succeeded in making us cower and have cost our economy hundreds of billions of wsted dollars from chasing phantoms.

 

The next boycott will come from having to take our shoes off.  Plane travel has become a nightmare.  The terrorists have won.

November 17, 2010
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Geez, can anyone tell me who said that a man willing to give up his liberty for safety deserves neither?  That's rhetorical, by the way.  Also, John Pistole, when asked by Matt Lauer of the Today show, said that children under the age of twelve are exempt from the pat search. He (John Pistole) then goes on to state that the TSA's procedures directly reflect, and are used to combat, the methods used by the terrorists.  However, what happens when the terrorist decide to plant something in an eight year old, promising them eternal life?  Will the TSA take "new" measures reflecting the degree to which the terrorists will go?  These are scary times and panic is a sure sign that we do not have this "under control".

November 24, 2010
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A country that spends %700 billion annually on wars outside US and another 400 billion on defense expenditure for past wars every year needs this? If I had to have TSA finger my ahole, where is all this money going? Save us 1.1 trillion annually and simply spend a 50 billion to scan interntaional flightds exclusively.... will the Conservatives do that or will they even permit this? noooooo... too much money going to the corporates and defense companies at stake here... even Obama fell for the same trap... when will US ever get out of the Wall Street trap and defense spend? This country is going to dogs...

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