Thursday, March 10, 2011
Overheard on CNN.com: Emotional hearings

 

Comment of the day: "“We wish Muslims to be free and happy in Canada but we insist they are reasonable. Driving in a burka is not reasonable to us. It is dangerous. Asking for a thumbprint instead of a photograph on a driver's license or passport is not considered reasonable here." -- CanadianPOV

 

Emotions fly at controversial hearings on Muslim Americans

 

Many were outraged by a congressional investigation into the “radicalization of Muslim Americans,” launched Thursday. While Committee Chairman Peter King said the hearing was neither “radical or un-American,” many of our readers disagreed.

 

BubbleKush  said, “ The U.S. Congress has deteriorated into nothing but a dog-and-pony show. This witch hunt will go down in infamy.”  Plank said, “I am willing to give King his chance, but if the hearings are nothing more than Islam bashing, sorry folks, it is a witch hunt, similar to McCarthy and Nazism. “

 

Others questioned what the uproar was about. blah9999 asked, “Aren't the people in these hearings just talking about Islamic extremism? What's wrong with sitting around and talking about this? Islamic extremism shouldn't be the elephant in the room.”

 

lordbyron85 answered, “Maybe we can start by recalling the events after 9/11, when Muslim American businesses were broken into and vandalized, when many Muslim American families' lives were threatened, and when law enforcement merely turned a blind eye to all.”

 

Kiwimama suggested that if those in Muslim communities were disturbed, they should police their own. “What are the American Muslims doing to help prevent the homegrown Muslim terrorist? Muslim leaders need their ‘congregants’ to reach out in good ways to their fellow citizens, not trying to hide away or keep low profiles.” Slag asked, “How come these Muslims have never protested against Muslim terrorists?”

 

sw6blues1905  answered, “Why doesn't the Christian community come out and denounce extremist Christian activity.”  And Aarrgghh07 said, “Oh you mean just like the Italian communities stopped the Mafia? Or how the Irish communities stopped the IRA (which this congressman supports), or how the black and Hispanic communities stopped the gangs?”

 

Fear accompanies road to freedom

 

Recently, bonded laborers – workers in India bound to those who gave them or their forefathers an advance or a loan -- have been spotlighted in CNN’s series on slavery. Many commenters, apparently Indian, wrote to express horror. Some didn’t believe it.  Sampath suggested the laborers could not really understand the interviewer's questions in English and that laborers were necessary to extract natural resources. “If one person has a problem with a supervisor, it's not that everyone has. Correspondent should need more guidance on research.”

 

Ambika responded, “Do you know anything about bonded labor? Being defensive won’t help! If you don’t believe this report, there are hundreds of reports about this made by Indian media. Go read them! Enlighten yourself. Come to Tamilnadu (one of the states that boasts of high literacy rate), I'll show you. Go to Dharmapuri district and do some research. Bonded labor still exists in India. That’s the ugly truth.” Chirag agreed, “I am an Indian and I know one thing: India is only shining in the big cities. You don’t need to go far from a metro to see this happening all around us. It is one thing to have a child labor law and it’s completely different to enforce it.”

 

Many blamed the problem on the caste system. Abhishek said, “The people in the picture are from the lowest caste! And in shameless states like Uttar Pradesh such things are continuing in modern India! What a shame!” Loke said, “If Indians can’t shed off this caste system, which deprive the poor and enriches the landowners, India will never be able to catch up to China. I personally encountered a receptionist who is a Brahmin but she can’t attend an engineer friend’s wedding because he is of lower caste.“

 

Vivek replied, “Loke, wake up, I don’t know which India you have experienced firsthand. I know the caste system is bad, and I am against it. But it’s not as bad as you are portraying it to be.”  Sendhilkumar replied, “Vivek, Loke is correct. It is a curse upon Indians, and it doesn't matter what generation we are in. We may not witness people practicing caste system in the ‘world’ we live in unless we see the real world (where poverty prevails). If one person in the world sleeps in hunger, the day is meaningless. We see a lot of people spend their money in posh restaurants and people waste food in the same place where people die of hunger.”

 

Chirag said, “I applaud the hardworking non-governmental organizations who are trying their best to stop this but without the will and backing from the system, it will be many decades before this young boy will see India shining.”

 

Vegan diet for dogs: A question of thriving vs. surviving

 

How we love our dogs. But is it love to eliminate meat from their diets? A story about one person’s path to rid her dog of an ear infection got owners arguing.

 

Some thought it would work. HealingNews said, “I have had a Dalmatian for five years now.  I noticed she loved carrots and tomatoes and enjoys grazing on wild sunflower leaves. After putting her on a vegan diet, her skin improved, ear infection got better, missing fur came back, smelled better, and now at close to 11, is one of the healthiest dogs around!“ chiragp86  said, “I had a Doberman in India that was a vegetarian, not vegan, but he lived a full long life. Never fed him dog food; always gave him what we ate. I swear dog food is hyped up by corporations as a necessity for dogs and they don’t really need it. He was always healthy and energetic.”

 

Some agreed that any diet would be an improvement over commercial pet food.  trav202 said, “It seems to me that most of the benefits noticed in the diet are more the result of it being high-quality whole foods than it being vegan. If you're taking the time to cook meals for your dog, of course there's going to be some nutritional benefits. I'm not convinced that it's the lack of animal products.“

 

Like Poohbearnb, however, many thought that a vegan diet was “extremely selfish and unhealthy for the animal.” inyourhead00 said, “ Yeah, I can't see my 100-pound dog surviving on lettuce or carrots. Sorry, but that's just ridiculous.“ AnonVet said, “This is almost as ridiculous as someone feeding their rabbit or horse a strict diet of animal protein because they believe in the Atkins diet.”

 

OrUnreality said, “The dog can probably survive on a vegan diet for awhile, but expect major problems later on in life. Note the vet recommended a temporary change in diet, not permanent. And a home-prepared or raw diet for dogs is much healthier than prepared dog foods, so of course, temporarily the dog will show improvement. If you want a pet to eat a vegan diet, get a vegan pet, like an iguana.”

 

Jimvsmij said, “ I knew a girl who converted her dogs to vegan diets because she thought that the dogs should share her ethical views on killing. She was so proud of them, but later she found out that they got really good at hunting and eating rabbits and squirrels in the woods behind her house. There were carcasses littering the ground everywhere back there!“

 

Mandozink  said, “I can see the upcoming headline: ‘Meat-Deprived Dog Finally Eats Vegan Owner: Dog STILL Lacking Proper Protein.‘ "

 

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity

94 Comments
March 10, 2011

A lot of people can turn on the waterworks in order to manipulate.  That's what happened here, a shameful display.

March 10, 2011
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Support Peter King,

 

While the media and many politicians are either afraid to face the truth or they are ignorant about the real ugly face of Islam. The NY representative Peter King whom I consider a hero is facing radicalism of Islam. We also heard the Muslim congressman’s tears of crocodile. We know better than others that Islam is the root of terrorism and it is our duty to educate those who do not know about Islam before time runs out. Call your representative or media and tell them that Peter King is raising the most important significant issue for Americans. Will we wait until our children face what Christians face Middle East or will do our best now to secure our children future?

 

 

 

Here are example of what THE SO CALLED "RELIGION OF PEACE"

 

“Fight and slay the non-Muslims wherever ye find them” and “seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); unless they repent” Surah 9:5

 

"Do not take the Jews and Christians as friends" Koran 5:51

 

"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191

 

“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123

 

“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5

 

“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85

 

“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30

 

“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33

 

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19

 

“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65

 

“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28

 

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

 

“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60

 

 

March 10, 2011
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Take the hate out of their texts.

March 10, 2011
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Support Peter King,

 

While the media and many politicians are either afraid to face the truth or they are ignorant about the real ugly face of Islam. The NY representative Peter King whom I consider a hero is facing radicalism of Islam. We also heard the Muslim congressman’s tears of crocodile. We know that Islam is the root of terrorism and it is our duty to educate those who do not know about Islam before time runs out. Peter King is raising the most important significant issue for Americans. Will we wait until our children face what we faced in Egypt or do our best to secure our children future?

 

Here are example of what THE SO CALLED "RELIGION OF PEACE"

“Fight and slay the non-Muslims wherever ye find them” and “seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); unless they repent” Surah 9:5

"Do not take the Jews and Christians as friends" Koran 5:51

"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191

“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123

“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5

“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85

“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30

“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19

“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65

“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60

March 10, 2011
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We are at war with these people. No different then Japan or Germany during WW2. Remember 9/11 I don't beleive that there were any hijackers that were British or Irish, Italian or Russian. They were Muslims. These are the times we live in. It's no different then Pearl Harbor!!

March 10, 2011
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@Forcetruth

If you spend as much time search for quotes in Bible and old testament, you will see the same. Some have been removed from original texts to make Christianity more marketable. Do not forget that so called peaceful christians are the one colonized whole world and killed millions. We are currently living on the graves of Native Americans, recently killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, soldier raped and killed at civilians, and to top it all Hitler was a CHRISTIAN AND WHITE.

March 10, 2011
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To: forcetruth

 

Most of the verses you mentioned are not in the Quran. Stop deceiving people

March 10, 2011
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ohhh.. Mexicans are next in Kings list.

March 10, 2011
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Islam is having their own "Crusade" as we speak. Just because Christians had one too doesn't mean that it acceptable to watch Muslims repeat history in their footsteps. I am tired of the libs saying that it is bigotry to speak out against radical Islam. Is it bigotry to speak out against radical Christains too? Not in their eyes it seems. The hypocrisy is thick in the lib's lies.  All they care about is the vote it seems. A Muslim extremist has no hesitation to sever the head of a lib or gop because they view them both as infadels. I hope the libs realize they are fighting for the enemy's cause when they try to protect their way of thought. Fanatical extremism is an ancient, archaic force that needs to be quelled. The neo-Muslims who grew up with God-fearing Christians and Jews need to step up to the plate and denounce the radical behavior of their brethren. We are all brothers and sisters after all in God's eyes. Killing innocents in the name of God is not good, no matter what creed. Those libs so quick to point out the hypocrisy of the Old vs New Testaments need to realize that radical Islam follows the Old Testament way of thinking, which does not forgive trespassers. You protect that form of thinking, you give room for the spread of death and destruction.

March 10, 2011
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to :forcetruth

yes almost 70% of those are his own creation. EVER WONDER WHY THE PHRASES THAT THESE ANTI-ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE FORCETRUTH USE ARE SO SMALL IN LENGTH????

LIKE TOTALLY RANDOM ONES: KILL THE INFIDELS , CHRISTIANS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS??

THE QURAN WAS A WORK OF LITERATURE, DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS GUY IS TAKING THESE PHRASES WITH THE TRUE CONTEXT.

ITS LIKE SAYING: AMERICA HATES CHINA.

WHEN THE ACTUAL SENTENCE COULD BE "AMERICA HATES CHINA FOR ITS HORRIBLE RECORD OF HUMAN RIGTHS.

 

March 10, 2011
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forcetruth,

 

My my, Aren't you a piece of work?  Let me guess.  You're either a fundi X'ian or a Zionist.

March 10, 2011
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Can't Republicans ever do anything decent and constructive???  What lame human beings......

March 10, 2011
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Which people are those flarocks01? I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU FOR the level of ignorance you are suffering.

March 10, 2011
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Why are we just singling out Muslims looking for radicals? There are plenty of extremist "Christian" themed, white power hate groups who advocate the overthrow of the US government. We should be trying to expose ALL anti-American "religious" groups, not just radical Muslims.  And don't say there are only a very few white power "Christian" groups.  Don't kid yourself.  US Government has identified over 600 hate groups, many with "Christian" themes.  Why don't we get them ALL?  Why stop at just Muslim radicals?  Sounds like the motivation is more political posturing than actual attempt to truly identify radicals.     

March 10, 2011
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forcetruth, you sound ignorant, Its Quran.  You are not stupid are you?

March 10, 2011
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Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:

 

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

 

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)

 

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

 

Even in the New Testament we read the following statements attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:

 

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

 

"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

 

 

March 10, 2011

ForceTruth what the heck are you talking about, I challenge everyone, the verses he described is no where in Quran. i have read it many many times. Maybe that is in Republicans Quran.

March 10, 2011
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Good point Pine Tree.

March 10, 2011
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My bible versus were taken without a historical context thats why they appear so voilent. Same deal with quran, Nothing new.

March 10, 2011
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By the way, I remember George W. Bush saying that we were not at war with Islam in general, only the radicals.  Now I see many on this board who say we are at war with Muslims.  All Muslims.  Everywhere.  They say that they are all dangerous.  Every one of them.  Even those who are American citizens who are third generation born in the USA.  Really?  I wish GW Bush would speak up today and repeat what he said when he was in office.  Of course, that might hurt the current Republican re-election strategy of Muslim demonizing, so he stays away.  Shameful.  

March 10, 2011
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@forceTruth. Not that I expect you to take any time out of the ignorant and bigoted life you lead to read this. But for those who are actually interested in the truth, here are some saying of the Prophet (pbuh):

 

“Whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise.” (Saheeh Muslim)

 

“Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.” (Abu Dawud)

 

"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)

 

"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

 

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

 

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

 

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

 

March 10, 2011
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MUSLIM HOLOCAST BEGINS******

PETER KING BRING GAS CHAMBERS AND HAVE ALL MUSLIMS KILLED IN THEM*****

FUTURE WILL HAVE MUSLIM ANNE FRANK*******

OBAMA KEEP WATCHING HISTORY WILL SHOW YOU DID NOTHING FOR MUSLIMS AND KEPT QUITE*******

DRUG CARTELS WILL KEPT MEDAL OF HONOR

SOLDIERS WILL BE GETTING PLASTIC LIMBS AND

POLITICIANS WILL BE HAVING GOOD TIME ********

GOD BLESS AMERICA

PETER KING IS ANTI CHRIST*****  Daniel 11:36-37[25] speaks of a self exalting king, considered by some to be the Antichrist.[26] THAT IS PETER KING.A little horn has grown up with eyes and mouth speaking great things, which is reducing three of these kingdomsi.e. Sicily, Italy, and Germanyto subserviency, is persecuting the people of Christ and the saints of God with intolerable opposition, is confounding things human and divine, and is attempting things unutterable, execrable.

PETER KING HAIRS LIKE A HORN.

March 10, 2011
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They exists to kill or conquer us... you decide which one you want

HERE'S THE TEST

1. 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:

a. Superman

b. Jay Leno

c. Harry Potter

d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:

a. Olga Corbett

b. Sitting Bull

c. Arnold Schwarzenegger

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the U.S. Embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians

b. Elvis

c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger

b. The King of Sweden

c. The Boy Scouts

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983 the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy

b. Pee Wee Herman

c. Geraldo Rivera

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a

70-year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in

His wheelchair by:

a. The Smurfs

b. Davey Jones

c. The Little Mermaid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver

Trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd

b. Charles Lindberg

c. Mother Teresa

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo

b. The Tooth Fairy

c. The Sundance Kid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons

b. Grandma Moses

c. Michael Jordan

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. In 1998 the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers

b.. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems

c. The World Wrestling Federation

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked. Two were used as

missiles to take out the World Trade Center . Of the remaining two,

one crashed into the U.S. Pentagon and the other was diverted and

crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd

b. The Supreme Court of Florida

c. Mr Bean

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:

a. Enron

b. The Lutheran Church

c. The NFL

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Bonnie and Clyde

b. Captain Kangaroo

c. Billy Graham

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. And now we can add: In 2009, 31 people wounded and 13 American

Soldiers murdered on base at Fort Hood by a Major who was known as...

a: You guessed it – A Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling. Do you?

So, to ensure we Americans/Canadians never offend anyone, particularly

fanatic’s intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no

longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random

searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper

identification, secret agents who are members of the President's

security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of

Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim males

between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

 

March 10, 2011
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MUSLIM HOLOCAST BEGINS******

PETER KING BRING GAS CHAMBERS AND HAVE ALL MUSLIMS KILLED IN THEM*****

FUTURE WILL HAVE MUSLIM ANNE FRANK*******

OBAMA KEEP WATCHING AND HISTORY WILL SHOW YOU DID NOTHING FOR MUSLIMS AND KEPT QUITE*******

DRUG CARTELS WILL GET MEDAL OF HONOR

SOLDIERS WILL BE GETTING PLASTIC LIMBS AND NO JOBS

POLITICIANS WILL BE HAVING GOOD TIME ********

GOD BLESS AMERICA

PETER KING IS ANTI CHRIST*****  Daniel 11:36-37[25] speaks of a self exalting king, considered by some to be the Antichrist.[26] THAT IS PETER KING.A little horn has grown up with eyes and mouth speaking great things, which is reducing three of these kingdoms---to subserviency, is persecuting the people of Christ and the saints of God with intolerable opposition, is confounding things human and divine, and is attempting things unutterable, execrable.

PETER KING HAIRS LIKE A HORN.

March 10, 2011
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amazing....wonder who picked the 'posters' they selected...

March 10, 2011
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Chinada:

 

So you couldn't find any terrorists or extremists who were were not Muslim?  Astonishing.

 

Reminds me of posts by racists who cherry pick through the police blotter and make a list to show that all crime is caused by black people.

March 10, 2011
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while people in the islamic countries are bringing revolutions to make Muslims free, US seems is going the other way

March 10, 2011
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Islamic Fanatics aren't at war with the U.S.

It's all relative, 3000 plus murdered at counting.

You are all anti-Islamic Bigots!

  • 1990 Assassination of Meir Kahane by Egyptian

  • 1990 Assassination of Rashad Khalifa for questioning Koranic verses

  • 1993 Shootings at CIA Headquarters

  • 1993 World Trade Center bombing

  • 1993 New York City landmark bomb plot

  • 1997 Empire State Building shootings

  • 1997 Murder of Prison Guard by Haneef Bilal

  • 2000 H. Rap Brown(Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin) shoots two police officers

  • 2000 New York terror attack

  • 2000 millennium attack plots

 

Aftermath of the September 11 attacks

  • 2001 September 11 attack

  • 2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting

  • 2002José Padilla (Abdullah al-Muhajir) Plot

  • 2002 Buffalo Six

  • 2002 John Allen Muhammad (Washington Sniper) killings

  • 2003 Columbus Shopping Mall Bombing Plot

  • 2004 financial buildings plot

  • 2005 Los Angeles bomb plot

  • 2006 Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar SUV attack

  • 2006 Sears Tower plot

  • 2006 Seattle Jewish Federation shooting

  • 2006 Toledo terror plot

  • 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot

  • 2007 Fort Dix attack plot

  • 2007 John F. Kennedy International Airport attack plot

  • 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting

  • 2009 Plot to bomb New York Synagogue and shoot down military planes

  • 2009 Dallas Car Bomb Plot by Hosam Maher Husein Smadi

  • 2009 New York Subway and United Kingdom Plot

  • 2009 Fort Hood shooting

  • 2009 Colleen LaRose arrested (not made public until March 2010)

  • 2009 Failed Christmas bombing of Northwest Flight 253

  • 2010 Attempted suicide car crash on Whitestone Bridge

  • 2010 2010 Times Square car bomb attempt

  • 2010 King Salmon, Alaska local meteorologist and wife assassination plots

  • 2010 Alleged Washington Metro bomb plot

  • 2010 Alleged car bomb plot against Portland,Oregon Christmas tree lighting ceremony

  • 2010 Alleged plot to bomb military recruiting center in Catonsville, Maryland

  • 2010 Abu Talhah al-Amrikee death threats to South Park Creators- See: Zachary Adam Chesse 73

  • 2011 Alleged Saudi Arabian student bomb plots

 

March 10, 2011
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@chinada, what do you mean by "they" exist to kill and conquer us. Who are "they" Please elaborate

You know Hilter said very similar about jews as a whole.

"Jews are parasites. They destroy the cultural and economical fabric"

March 10, 2011
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This guy is a ball face  liar, The  man he was referring to was praised by name when the patriot act was signed and  nowhere does it ever show he was critized for  being a muslim. Another lying democrat with kangaroo tears playing   victim

March 10, 2011
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This man clearly lied as he was  reading what was put in front of  him by God knows  who. The man   he was Talking about as he was fake crying was  somebdy who  was called a hero after 911 and was  used by name as  inspiration  to  the  patriot act being signed into law. And of course he wont  be called out on his lie  by the lamestream media!

March 10, 2011
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Liberals tend to be quiet on discussing differences, but conservatives don't believe in handling it this way.  I have always agreed with this belief.  Ignorance comes from not talking about issues.  Treat people as individuals, be kind, but open up the discussion and the hell with political correctness. 

March 10, 2011
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@mag239 All what you quoted is from Hadith, not Quran, and all of it applies to non-muslims who live in muslim land as "Dhimmi" as a second class who pays "Jizyah" as ransom taxation and can not build churches nor other non- muslim houses of worship in the land.

YOu sure can find a lot of peaceful verses in the Quran of Mecca, but after the prophet went to Medina, the Quran tone became more militiant and pro Jihad.

I'd recommend that you study before posting - Sura 9 is a good read, here is quote from Yusuf Ali translation:   verse 5:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful"

 

 

March 10, 2011
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Quisp65:

 

I don't think most Liberals are disputing the need to find dangerous religious radicals.  I think their main complaint is why stop at Muslims?   Kinds like going after organized crime by limiting the investigation to just Italians.

 

 

March 11, 2011
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Troydug, your old testament verses talk about the promise land, it describes a war for a specific land in specific time.     However Quran's war verses are preached today in all muslim countries, and Jihad (to kill and be killed for God) is considered the greatest joy and only way to paradise.

 

Also, obviously you are not a bible reader, the Luke verse you mentioned is Jesus telling a parable about a ruthless master, and verses 26 and 27 are the sayings of the ruthless master not Jesus.

 

Same thing about Matthew 10, read the whole chapter, it is about the rejection a follower of Jesus gets from their own families sometime as a result of following HIM, it is about the emotional price.

 

A good read in Matthew will be chapters 5 to 7, please read them.

 

Respect to all of you.

 

 

March 11, 2011
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March 11, 2011
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Ok I see that people have become experts of Islam and Quran without actually reading the Quran . You should have picked up the Quran and double checked before copying from Islamophobe websites who think they can misguide people by quoting half verses and in some cases completely misquoting the Quran .

 

 

 

Quran 9:5 is being quoted which was revealed in the context of the battle ..but lets see what the very next verse says

 

If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 9, Verse 6

 

 

 

Killing any innocent human being, whether Muslim or Non-Muslim is not allowed in Islam. Even in the circumstances of war, this aspect is not to be ignored. The first caliph of Islam, Abu Bakr is reported to have commanded about the rules for war:

 

"I command you to do ten things: you must not kill a woman or a child, or an elderly person; do not cut down trees, or vandalize homes, or wound a sheep or camel except if you must eat it; do not drown a palm tree, or burn it, do not be treacherous; do not be cowardly; and you will pass by people who have devoted themselves to monastery life: leave them alone with their devotions." (Book Tarikh At-Tabari, V.3, p.210)

 

Islam forbids killing of innocent people. The Qur'an says:

 

" ... If anyone slew a person unless it is for murder or for spreading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole humanity." The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 5, Verse 32

 

 

"And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you. But do not transgress the limits. Truly Allah loves not the transgressors" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 2, Verse 190.

 

"Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Indeed, Allah loves those who deal with equity" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 60, Verse 8.

 

"They intend to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will complete His light even though the disbelievers hate (it)" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 61, Verse 8.

 

"There is no compulsion in religion. The right path has indeed become distinct from the wrong. So whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All Hearing, All Knowing" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 2, Verese 256.

 

 

 

March 11, 2011
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@ forcetruth - I won't go item by item of what you, alledgedly, quoted from the Koran.  But just out of curiosity, I did look up 9:30 in the Koran and here is what I read:  "The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before them. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?"

 

Now, can you please point out where it says that the Jews and Christians are perverted?  What is troubling about alot of these comments, and these hearings as well, is that (1) I seriously doubt if many posters, or even Rep. King, have even sat and talked with a Muslim or read up on the subject of Islam; (2) these hearings sound an awful lot like the McCarthy hearings in the late 1950's; and lastly (3) singling out an ethnic/religious group to hold hearings about them strikes me as something this world has already seen:  it was called facisism and the party was the Nazi party, with Hitler at the helm.  I think it's prudent for everyone, before they climb on the broom of this witch hunt, to educate themselves.  This planet already had several rounds of crusades, all of which ended badly.  A crusade of the kind going on in Washington has the potential to end far worse.

 

March 11, 2011
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CNN is supporting these hearings? how shameful, look how far you have fallen....News flash: no one watches a cowardly news channel.

March 11, 2011
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Moses is one of the most revered Prophets for Muslims . Mary a jewess is held in high esteem by Muslims , Jesus Christ is one of the most revered Prophets for Muslims ..So how can Muslims or Quran be against Jews and Christians .

 

 

When he was in Makkah, Al-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz (Malcolm X) wrote a letter to his loyal assistants in Harlem... from his heart:

 

America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem.

 

 

 

"Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.

 

"I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca, I have made my seven circuits around the Ka'ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad, I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al-Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat.

 

"There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blonds to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.

 

 

Islam is not a new Religion started by the Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) around 1400 years ago.It is the same truth proclaimed by all the Prophets who came before him, right from the time of Adam.Muslims believe in all the Prophets like (to name a few)Abraham,Moses and Jesus(peace be upon them all) and the divine revelations like the Torah(Jewish Holy Book) and the Bible(Christian Holy Book). But these books have been interpolated by so-called "saints" or "holy men" over a period of time to suit their whims and fancies for example, Pork is prohibited in the Torah and the Bible but these have been iterpolated and made into acceptable things over a period of time.

 

This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than God; On the Contrary it is a Confirmation of (Revelation) that went before it. And a fuller explanation of the Book Wherein there is no doubt from the Lord of the Worlds. Holy Qur'an (Chapter 10, Verse 37)

 

 

March 11, 2011
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Get this guy a box of tissues. Is he for real. I don't feel sorry for him or any muslum at all.

March 11, 2011
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Javed12,  All my muslim friends talk about how today's bible is changed and corrupted, and none of them can give one prove , except of the legends like you are mentioning about pork. 

The Quran talks about the people of the book, and the validity of the Scriptures in the 7th century, and today we go back to biblical manuscripts dated back to the 2nd and 3rd century, which means that the bible we have today is the same one they had in the 7th century, and if the Quran asked you to read it, then let's read it first.   Fair enough?

The gospel of Matthew or Luke would be my recommendation.

 

Peace.

March 11, 2011
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@ quisp65 - You stated.."Ignorance comes from not talking about issues.." in regards to your assumption that Democrats or Liberals keep quiet about issues like these.  I'd liked to disabuse you of that notion, but it would probaly take up more space that this post allows.  However, I will say that a portion of your comment is correct, but it applies to the Conservatives.  And many people who support the Conservatives do so out of ignorance that is entirely bred by fear.  The two shining examples of this are Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.  I am more than happy to debate a Conservative, provided they have command of the facts.  Sadly, most of them don't and instead rely on being spooned fed the talking points as interpreted by these two ministers of hate.

March 11, 2011
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the only good muslim is a dead muslim.

March 11, 2011
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Islam is less a religion and more a political idiology wrapped up in a form of religion to control the masses and dominate the world as it sees fit.Throughout the world, wherever the loving and peaceful religion of Islam is the dominate there is war, enslavement and brutalization of people. Period. They are @ war with everybody because of their bloodlust and desire to make Sharia the dominant political dogma throughout the world. Its time we woke up and stopped letting them take advantage of our good nature as freedom loving Americans and let them know that if they are intent on bringing Sharia to America then they are not welcome here. When American Muslims start showing outrage for the Wahabbi idiots who have stolen their religion then maybe we can all cut them a little slack. Until that day comes bring on the hearings.    

March 11, 2011
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Kevintro:  You have no sympathy for ANY Muslim. OK, here's the big question:  Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

If so, I had better watch out the next time I have my American born Muslim sister-in-law over for Thanksgiving.

She's liable to pull a knife on me and blow up the house, eh?  You talk pure ignorance. 

March 11, 2011
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man there are some real wackadoodles posting today

March 11, 2011
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this dudes so fake its beyond pathetic. even muslims should feel outraged about this dude exploiting them as a tool for his political ambitions

March 11, 2011
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Johnessj:  So, you want my American born Muslim sister-in-law dead? 

 

How DARE you, you stupid, ignorant fool.

March 11, 2011
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@ johnessj - Isn't this calling the kettle black?  You accuse Muslims of being extremist, but you're not?  Let me see...you think that we should exercise the Bush Doctrine here in the US against our own citizens?  Isn't that what it's happening in Libya?  Just exactly which copy of Mein Kampf do you own - auf Deutsch oder auf Englisch?  You're absolutely pathetic.

March 11, 2011
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Fundad 59:

 

Did you know (this from BBC News):

 

A study published this year by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Security at Duke University found that the US Muslims themselves were the largest single source of information to the police in disrupting Muslim-American terror plots (supplying information in 48 out of 120 investigations).

 

There.  Facts.  Not fear. 

 

There are so many ignorant posts on this site by people who have never been within a mile of an actual Muslim-American it is scary.

March 11, 2011
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For all of those hate Islam and Muslim, allow me to shove this, Muslims in this country are the most law abiding citizens. virtually ZERO crime rate, most educated. suck on this haters.

 

No matter how every new media or elected official try to attack this GREAT religion it fire back, all of what we see is more people embracing Islam and yet it the most growing religion out there, solve this mystery suckers   

March 11, 2011
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@ US1117  - I think you meant "share" instead of "shove", and "back fire" instead of "fire back". 

March 11, 2011
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   He can spare us the crocodile tears because we have had enough of political correctness and naivete.  When it comes to the security of this nation No one is above the law or beyond suspicion not even our dear Muslim  communities who have been the source of a lot of terrorist activities around the globe.

March 11, 2011
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GOP hate muslim ,gauys ,immigrant,latinos ,african americans!!!!

March 11, 2011
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@Ichin, in regards to Sura9:30, this verse (and Sura in general) explains what Jews and Christians are Kafirs (Arabic word for infidels) Because they associated a "Son" to God.

So basically once the Jews and christians are considered "offenders" of God, then the duty of a good muslim is to do what verse 5 tells them.  (and Sura 8:12 check it out on quran.com)

Unless they "repent" which means accepting the Quran, and denouncing their believes.

 

Also supported in Sura 3:85

And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

 

I'm all for reading and studying, and after all of that you will find that the big conflict is that we live in a land that honors freedom of religion where everyone is equal and conflicts with the fact that in Islam there is no equality between muslims and non-muslims, nor between a man and a woman.

And finally there is no true freedom of religion as the punishment of apostasy is death.

 

 

March 11, 2011
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@lchin I was counting on the fact that these haters ignorants won't even notice and the smart like yourself will get the gist of it :)

 

March 11, 2011
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@us117, there is no doubt that muslims are good people, I have a lot of muslim friends who I love and respect. 

Speaking of crime rate in the US, I don't have the stats, but muslims by default are submitting (that's the meaning of the word muslim after all)

The problem is not in the muslim, it is in the ideology that allowed 9/11 and Fort Hood shooting and multiple "Honor murders" not to mention what happens in mid east's muslim countries.

 

To answer your question about how Islam is growing it is simple, there is a way in but no way out!   apostasy's punishment is death!

Birth rate alone is a big factor, the average muslim family is 8.

 

Peace.

 

 

 

 

 

March 11, 2011
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@Edor : Peace to you as well .

 

Good that you mentioned Mathew . Firstly can you tell me where I can find the original Gospel that Jesus PBUH preached in Armaic ??

 

You talked about Mathew :

 

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfill." (Matthew 5:17)

 

Jesus never ate pork , was circumcised since he was a Jew. Pork was prohibited by previous prophets ..and so if Jesus can to fulfill the law and not destroy them - how did pork become legal for Christians ?

 

 

"Nevertheless I (Jesus) must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a PROPHET perish out of Jerusalem." #

 

"Why callest thou me good? There is none good but One, that is God." (Mark 10:18)

 

Do we have that True Gospel which Jesus Christ (pbuh) Preached in Hebrew or Aramaic?

Did Jesus (pbuh) asked Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write these Gospels?

 

Luke and Mark were not even the disciples of Jesus.

 

“...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28).

“By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30).

 

 

They do blaspheme who say "God is the Christ the son of Mary." But Christ said "O Children of Israel! Worship God, (who is) my Lord and your Lord." Whosoever joins other gods with God - God will forbid him the Garden, and the fire will be his abode... They do blaspheme who say "God is one of three in a Trinity". For there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 5, Verses 72-73. \

 

13 out of the 21 letters in the New Testament were written by Paul, who never actually met Jesus in his life time

 

March 11, 2011
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@Edor do you speak and read native Arabic? Even native arab find it hard to interpret many verses of the Quran, let alone the translation to another language. There is wide great branch of science called the science of interpretation. Now given your hateful views I highly doubt it you will understand.

 

March 11, 2011
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This is for ForceTruth!

You have mentioned various verse from Quran.

Fight and slay the non-Muslims wherever ye find them” and “seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); unless they repent” Surah 9:5

Response:

mention the verses before and after that. Also learn why this verse was revealed at that time, when the disbeleivers broke the treaty and killed muslims when they were sleeping and after that this verse was revealed. So don't mention anything without knowing the historical background abouit it.

Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191

Why don't you mention the entire verse, you can't pick and choose, again know the historical background.

“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123

You have made up this verse.

“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5

Again you have made up this verse.

You yourself mentioned at the beggining a completely different verse for the same.

Liar read your own posting.

“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30

Again you have fabricated the verse.

“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33

Again you continue to make up your own verses.

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19

You continue to make up your own verses.

“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65

Again fabriacted verse made up by you

“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28

Again made up verse

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

Men you have a Ph.D in fabrication and making up your own verses.

I urge all people to read Quran themselevs and decide if the Quran is the religion of peace or not.

Don't listen to this Peter King Supporter. He is antiMuslim and he will do anything and everything to fabricate Quran but will be caught red handed.

ISLAM DENOUNCES TERRORISM AND IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE, NO DOUBT NO QUESTIONS.

PEACE AND PROSPERITY FOR EVERYONE.

March 11, 2011
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@US1117  Actually I do read Arabic, it is my mother tongue, and I read the Quran in Arabic, and I do have a good number of good muslim friend.

I'm not a hater, as I said I firmly believe that muslim are good people.

I do disagree with the ideology that causes murder in the name of God.

 

March 11, 2011
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@Edor : Kafir does not mean infidels to begin with ..

 

Kafir’ is derived from the word ‘Kufr’, which means to conceal or to reject or to deny. ‘Kafir’ is the one who conceals or rejects or denies. This is contrary to how some people wrongly translate 'Kafir' as Infidel. 'Kufr' is not a curse or an insult. A Muslim also has to do 'Kufr', not with Allah but with all that is worshipped other than, or along with Allah.

 

And once again you fell into the trap of Islamophobe websites - by not reading the verse before and after the one that you have pasted .. in this case 8:12 .

 

Read the verse before it to get the context . Battle of Badr ..300 odd Muslims very poorly armed against 1000 strong Meccans . Meccans had gathered to vanquish Muslims and Islam

 

Quran 8:5 It is just as when your Lord brought you out of your home for the battle of Badr in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,

 

And if you read the verses leading to 8:12 - the context becomes clear . When you are attacked and fighting a battle of survival - I guess it is ok to defend - right ?

 

 

And if you punish (your oppressors), then punish them with the like of that which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient ones. (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 16, Verse 126)

 

 

March 11, 2011
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ideology!!! give me a break, I was born and raised in a middle eastern country, I studied in a baptist american school for 8 years, we always lived in peace with our Christian friends. religion was never a subject of argument or disagreement, they are happy with their believes and same for us. My father had a christain sister, that is how he always called her and she always called him brother, when she died he was devastated for months.

I was raised on the concept of respecting every human being and treat the other the same way I would like to be treated. This is the Islamic ideology i always know.

  

March 11, 2011
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@Edor  - if you read Arabic .. you would have known that Kafir does not mean Infidel ...

March 11, 2011
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Really, Islam is a violent religion???? I just was reading some passages in another religions Book, tell me if ya'll recognize which book.

 

Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "

 

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."

 

Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "

 

Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "

 

Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

 

Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "

 

Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."

 

Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "

March 11, 2011
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@ javed12, Good stuff.    I appreciate that you actually are studying.

It is not really about Pork, Jesus's teaching was it is not what come inside a man makes him unclean, it is comes out : it talking and in action , that is what make a man unclean.

 

Jesus did not ask anyone to write, because Jesus is the WORD of God and his spirit (also in Quran) But the gospels go back to the 2nd century, and yes we have them - go check the manuscripts.

 

And sure, the bible is translated to numerous languages, and translation doesn't always mirror the original language, but the true message of the gospel was clear and never affected by translation.

 

This was debated 14 centuries ago, and we can debate it for another 14, and I don't care who wins.

 

I only care that people read and be educated, I myself read a lot.

 

Blessings to you.

 

 

 

 

March 11, 2011
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Muslim American love America and they will always love America. We are freely practice our religion and believes, I have been living in this country the last 4 years, I was able to establish my own business and I am making 7 figure income. You will hear this story from so many muslims around the country. After all of what the country have given me, the least I can do is to defend it with my own life.

 

And those who question our patriotism, loyalty and the love of this country allow me to say screw you. (out of respect to cnn readers i wouldn't use a different word)

 

 

 

March 11, 2011
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Peter is not a King and he should focus on the inner problem going on daily with the mob still running New York City controlling construction and all types of businesses while the hard working people pay for it through higher taxes and everything else going up in prices. Why doesn't her focus on these slum landlords who are raising the rents where even in the ghetto its expensive and hard to survive and middle class are becoming poor. You worry about Muslims here when the problem is not them its our system and the way it is set up to destroy the everyday hard working person robbing us with price hikes from gas to plane tickets Peter King you living the good life while the rest suffer and you want to investigate Muslim groups how about the catholic priest who terrorized children over the years? No one went after the Pope or President for being terrorist.

March 11, 2011
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Every American should be outraged by these hearings... NO LESS than a rebirth of McCarthyism and Nazism!: "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike."--Adolph Hitler, May 2, 1933

 

 

March 11, 2011
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@Javed12 - Kafir is a hard word to translate in English, and it is translated in the English Quran as "Blasphemies, infidels, pagans. unbeliever" and none of those is really accurate, but in any meaning we agree it is a negative word.

 

 

 

March 11, 2011
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If you love to hate, then you'll hate to love, and be blind to see otherwise. ;—(((

March 11, 2011
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@Javed12  I appreciate your explanation of the verses, and I do know that the Quran is not put together chronologically, that's why it is good to study "Sira" and Hadith to understand when the verses came.

And I agree that most of the "war verses" are related to "Ghazawat" after the Hijra to Madina, but the same verses are preached today to encourage Jihad (and yes I know what Jihad means ,and the root Juhd means)

 

And on this note, I wish you the best on your path to find true peace.

 

Much respect.

 

March 11, 2011
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@Edor : Peace be upon you

March 11, 2011
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   The words of the God which is the Qur'an NEVER SAID KILL THE PEOPLE FOR NO REASON and Islam is peace religion i want to encourage all the people to study the qur'an they will find out the truth that Islam is peace religion. the guy laying the Qur'an and saying bad thing for the Qur'an there is one day all the people can't talk and will be in front of the God. make ready what you will answer????? 

March 11, 2011
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There is an impression by some people that all people born Muslim follow some kind of computer program and all think the same way. If you open the Old Testament, which is a Jewish book, most won't be able to even quote it.  Muslims are so varied.  Polls have shown the majority of Muslim Americans side with America, are with America.  Anyway, Uncle Sam promoted Binladin. That's not the fault of regular Muslim Americans, now is it? They shouldn't be on trial as a culture considering more of them have been killed than the other way around. 

What about failed foreign policies? Why make all Muslims cultural victims? I don't see the point.

March 11, 2011
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Obvious grandstanding.  I am embarrassed. 

March 11, 2011
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Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "

 

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."

 

Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "

 

Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "

 

Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

 

The christian god is such a peaceful god...  No better, no worse, all equally nuts.  The fact that so many people come on here and bash Islam is laughable as most people doing so are christian.  A religion with as much blood on its hands as any.

 

 

March 11, 2011
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Islam is a dying cult.

March 11, 2011
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Americans don’t be deceived. All mosques are Islamic terrorist sleeper cells run by radicals. Islam is irrelevant, it is useless, worthless and harmful to humankind.

The advent of the Lord Jesus Christ is all humankind needs to be saved. Jesus is the Son of God Himself. Nevertheless, Muslims try to downgrade Him to the condition of a regular human being like child-molester Mohammed; at the same time, they exalt their pedophile self-styled stand-up prophet to the same level of divinity of Jesus Christ.

On top of that, the Koran is full of orders to go and murder all of whom they call "infidels;" therefore, Islam is a declaration of war against Christians, Jews and all others who are not yet victims of the Islamic tyranny and oppression.

I am a Democrat but I agree with Republican Congressman Peter King, Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. Instead of holding hearings, he should instead  introduce legislation to ban Islam from the USA because Islam is not a religion but a declaration of war; it is an excuse to murder all others who are not Islamists.

Let's quit deceiving ourselves and quit pretending we expect Islamists to obey our Constitution and to love the U.S.A.; it is no secret they wish to impose Islam and Sharia law on U.S. soil as if they were in their God-forsaken countries. So, no more Mr. Nice Guy; ISLAM IS NOT A FRIENDLY RELIGION BUT AN EXCUSE TO CONQUER AND DESTROY THE USA!

March 11, 2011
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Why is IRA lover King even allowed to be the one running this?  I'm sure some questions need to be asked, and some topics covered, but come on...

As some others have said, were Italian-Americans questioned about not doing more to stop the mafia, or Irish-Americans denouncing the IRA, etc., etc.

March 11, 2011
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"Oh shit!!! Muslims are going to impose Sharia law in the USA!!!"  Come on now, that'll never happen.  The ease of access to and speed of information these days will accelerate the demise of fundamentalist Muslims and Christians alike. 

March 11, 2011
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Look at all the people arguing over books written thousands of years ago and arguing over which one is "right". All three of the main middle east religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) all have the same origin. They are all Abrahamic religions. Christianity from Judaism in the first century, Islam from both in the seventh century. People who claim that Islam is violent based on some quotes? You can pull some pretty nasty hate filled quotes out of the old Testament as well.

 

Holding onto these beliefs on all sides has done nothing but cause hatred, bigotry and bloodshed for 2000 years. Time for the people of these religions to understand that they all come from the same shared history and original religion that have been intertwined throughout their histories.

 

BTW, Christians are supposed to not follow "false prophets". Guess what religious right? Your boy Glen Beck follows Joseph Smith....whom the main sects of Christianity have deemed a "False Prophet" and yet when he spews his views...you all cheer him on.Doesn't he also support and "exalt their pedophile self-styled stand-up prophet to the same level of divinity of Jesus Christ." as Galaor55 accuses Muslims of doing?

 

Time to stop the hatred, bigotry and bloodshed done in the name of "God". If such a being exists, this stupidity must be turning his/her stomach.

March 11, 2011
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religion + sensational politico-media = distracted, shallow voters concerned with socially constructed labels that group masses of individuals under a handful of ideas. Seriously, get over it.

March 11, 2011
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Why doesn't anyone talk about what is happening to the muslims right now instead of always talking about islamic extremism. Muslims in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya... have been peacefully protesting to get democracy and rights in their countries. They are not fighting to get "Sharia Law", they want to be free and live life like everyone else. They are being killed left and right for just protesting, which is something people in the west have the freedom to do!

I am an American Muslim who lives in the Middle East and there are plenty of christians and christian arabs here and everyone is free to practice whatever religion they want. If people would come to the middle east they would see what muslims are really like instead of basing their information on what they see or hear on tv. 

March 11, 2011
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Muslims here are playing Taqiyya (intentionally lying in islam to protect oneself or muslim community when in minority). The Koranic peaceful verses they chose are the ones that came to Muhammad when he did not have much following. These verses are abrogated by later verses when Muhammad had power to subjugate others. Search on YouTube for "The Quran's doctrine of abrogation"

 

Let me ask the author which of the following Koranic verses are peaceful:

 

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

 

Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

 

Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.

 

Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.

 

Google for "The Religion of Peace Jesus Muhammad"..

March 11, 2011
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"When will people realize that just as there are good doctors and quacks, good cops and rogue cops, there can also be good religions and bad religions?" – D. Richardson

March 11, 2011
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This morning, Rep. Keith Ellison (Democratic-Farmer-Labor party, Minn.) appropriated a hearing on Islamic radicalism by weeping his way through a speech about whata-buncha-nasty-bigots Americans are. He chose as his case in point Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a Pakistani-born Muslim American who rushed to lower Manhattan on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, to assist in rescue efforts, and died in the collapse of the World Trade Center. Here’s how Representative Ellison tells the story of the aftermath of his death:

 

    After the tragedy some people tried to smear his character solely because of his Islamic faith. Some people spread false rumors and speculated that he was in league with the attackers only because he was Muslim. It was only when his remains were identified that these lies were fully exposed. Mohammed Salman Hamdani was a fellow American who gave his life for other Americans. His life should not be defined as a member of an ethnic group or a member of a religion, but as an American who gave everything for his fellow citizens.

 

Does Ellison’s account check out with reality?

 

No. It is actually pretty close to the opposite of the truth. In fact, six weeks after the September 11 attacks — before Hamdani’s remains were identified, which Ellison implies to be the turning point of public perception — Congress signed the PATRIOT Act into law with this line included: “Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted heroically during the attacks on the United States, including Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani descent, who is believed to have gone to the World Trade Center to offer rescue assistance and is now missing.” That is, Hamdani was actually singled out for particular high honors among the thousands of victims of the September 11 attacks.

 

There’s little evidence of the “rumors” of which Ellison speaks, either. Poke around yourself. Go to Google and search for Mohammed Salman Hamdani’s name, using various time frames from before today’s hearings (say, in the week after the September 11 attack). You’ll discover two discordant sets of returns: none for sites and news reports accusing Hamdani of being a terrorist, and many thousands of pages honoring him as a hero while claiming that he was “widely accused” of being a terrorist..

To read more search for "Rep. Keith Ellison’s Bigotry National Review"..

March 11, 2011
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  I'm not outraged by these hearings. Special attention should be paid to any group or religion that's been known to be radical.Oh, cry me a river about Muslims being picked on.I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to.In a Islam world there is no such thing as Freedom. They want to rule the people. America has no place for these types of religion.Beware of Islam and its agenda. Be very aware..

March 13, 2011
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@ Rotten

 

The stories you have read do not represent Islam and are not supported what-so-ever by the Quran. Provide me one verse, not out of context like the others have done, that clearly supports the killing of an innocent human being, that supports the destruction of public facilities, and that support the abuse of girls and of women. Provide me with a clear cut analysis of each verse, identify the situation that sparked the creation of this verse, explain to me the essence of the verse, the historical context in which the verse was given and sent down, and provide me with a thesis, proving to me that the Qur'an supports these sinful actions.

That list that you just provided me are actions that are not done by Muslims. They are done by those who have been truly mislead, those who can not draw a line between what is right and what is wrong. A true Muslim would not abuse an animal or human in fear of God's punishment and does everything in their power to purify their hearts, seek forgiveness consistently from their God, produce acts of kindness, do not allow any spark of jealously hatred competition to enter their hearts and who work on a daily basis to build a strong bond with their God through remembrance and prayer and completing acts of kindness.

     Another thing I would like add, if you took part in interfaith dialogue and put time and effort in learning about other religions, your views would not be what they are today.  When child molester priests made the headlines I was not weak to fall for the rumor that all priests of the Catholic faith are perverse and that Christianity supports such actions. This is because I have many catholic friends of my own and have learned a lot about the Catholic faith from them to conclude that such actions are looked down upon in Christianity  (just like Muslims denounce the list you provided). I strongly suggest that you gain some knowledge and study the books of the Islamic faith before you make judgments about a religion that are not even true and that can never be truly justified by the Qur’an. I would take this advice because I took the same advice and it helped me in the long run and I essentially have a positive outlook on the catholic faith now because of it.

 

March 13, 2011
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Please MUSLIM PEOPLE !!! especial AMERICAN MUSLIM !!! You have killed thousands people during SEPTEMBER 11.

  You American Muslims are the disaster itself ( even more terrible than Tsunami ) to the world. Just how many people have you killed ? WAKE UP ! MURDERER !!! delusionist!!!

OBAMA always talking about " CHANGE " but he never accomplish his " CHANGE ". What he needs to " CHANGE " is " American Muslim ". Without Muslim, U.S will become a better place. People wouldn't live in FEAR any more. You can not just come here to make U.S becomes a whole Muslim country.

A Muslim Father killed his daughter for HONOR KILLING.

Parents electrocuted their daughter  for HONOR KILLING in Pakistan.

IT IS 21st CENTURY and still EXECUTE PEOPLE by throwing rocks.

These things are caused by the Holy Book Qur'an  ?

March 15, 2011
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I am baffled.  The oldest community of Muslims in America is the one from whom Muhammed Ali evolved from under the leadership of Imam W.D. Mohammed yet no speaksto them.  You speak of radicalism among Muslims.  What do you call the genocide of millions of Native Americans at the hands of those calling themselves Christians? What do you call the murder of millions of Africans by the hands of so called Christians?  I believe millions were killed in Germany by a renegade who threw away the Bible for Nazism.  The same people gave to the world some of the sickest ideologies imaginable.  From the minds of those calling themselves Christians came Nazism - Communism - Apartheid - Colonialism - Aryan White Supremacy - Slavery - Racial Segregation etc.  Ask yourself who has been the most racists folks on earth for the same mindset gave the world the Ku Klux Klan who alone hung as many as 5000 black men to trees.  The same self professing Christians killed Civil Rights Workers as though it was a favorite pastime greater than baseball. It was non Muslims who came up with the word NIG------. No people on G-d's earth have been so ignorant as to label people by color but those who conceived the false notion that G-d is white did it.  In spite of all of this FBI stats indicate 16,867 murders occured where non Muslims killed non Muslims. While the vast majority of Muslims youth are in college many non Muslim youth fill our jails and are the ones filling up the ranks of gang members.  Do you know of any Muslim youth gangs?  The 10 most wanted people on the FBI list has 9 of them as non Muslims.  When gthe IRA was bombing the hell out of the Brits who criticized the Church.  When the Klan burned the cross to intimidate innocent African Amercians who spoke out.  It was not until the brutality of Emmit Til that some heart began to soften. So now its hatge time again and the recipients are the 2 m's Muslims and Mexicans.  They same mentallity hated the Native American.  The same mind hated Africans forced here for free labor.  The same sick mind once had signs up saying "no dogs or Jews allowed.  The same mind came up with Jim Crow laws.  The same mind put American Japenese folks inot camps during WWII and now they supposedly love them. I guess Muslims and Mexicans will have to ride the tide until a new group is to be hated.

 

 

March 21, 2011
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Let's see President Reagan had Libya bombed in 1986 unilaterally,(without UN sanction) and he was a hero and a patriot. President Obama has UN approval do the same thing and he is a traitor. Aren't the political critics petty and fickle? Let's focus on something more important like is the president wearing socks that match his shoes. Wait a minute Reagan use to like red socks or was that another popular actor?

March 30, 2011
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Please Please Please replace Eliot Spitzer and ED Hill with absolutely ANYBODY else.

 

Because of Spitzer's ridiculous political career, and ED Hill's famous "Obama terrorist fist jab," I find them both repulsive and disgusting.  I can not take seriously ANYTHING they say.  For heaven's sake, Fox even fired ED Hill.  Fox!  The most ridiculous "news entertainment" cable news network in the world.

 

I love Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, Piers Morgan, etc.  But Eliot Spitzer and ED Hill are unwatchable and ridiculous.  GET RID OF THEM NOW.

 

Thank you in advance,

Kelly Bailess

Birmingham, Alabama 

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