Thursday, October 13, 2011
iReporters define Occupy Wall Street movement

UPDATE: Since this article was published we've received more than 1000 responses to our survey. We hope we can delve again into the numbers and investigate trends such as how income level, age and geography play into the grievances of those who identify with this movement. Stay tuned.

 

iReport's Occupy Wall Street assignment has received more than 800 submissions from iReporters in 33 different cities in the United States. From looking at all those photos and videos, we've learned just how diverse the demands and grievances of protesters are. We've seen everything from anger over tax breaks for the wealthy, to demands like ending the wars and effecting campaign finance reform.

 

Yet by looking at the comments on iReports and articles on CNN.com, we see that many of our readers still don't know who the protesters are, or what they seek to achieve. Maybe if the self-appointed "99%" came up with a list of demands, it would help focus and clarify the movement.

 

But the protesters haven't yet, and might not for a while.

 

Yesterday, CNNMoney's Julianne Pepitone pointed out that Occupy Wall Street isn't about having a list of demands. Even the administrators of the more-or-less-official Occupy Wall Street website had to clarify that (at least currently) "There is NO official list of demands," after a user-submitted list that appeared on their forums got some negative attention.

 

So how do we satisfy CNN commenters' questions?

 

At CNN iReport, we're interested in telling stories as they're seen from the eyes of many. We decided to seek out the common themes in protests from different parts of the country by asking one question to iReporters supportive of the movement: "What are you protesting?"

 

Here's what we found out:

 

 

Out of the 75 responses to our survey, 46 percent cited grievances against corruption in the U.S. government -- a recurring theme that was more than twice as popular as any other.

 

Themes aligned with traditional liberal values such as tax breaks for the wealthy (15%) and growing economic disparity (13%) were also brought up by a significant percentage of respondents. Beyond those, respondents also pointed to more specific themes such as healthcare reform (12%), campaign finance reform (11%), and the outsourcing of American jobs to overseas labor markets (11%).

 

The most common emotion associated with these protests by respondents was "anger."

 

Although our non-scientific survey points to some interesting statistics, this growing protest movement continues to define itself as undefined. Its only goal seems to be increasing its traction among those dissatisfied with government corruption and the greed of the "1%."

 

Want to chime in? Take the survey!

 

As we wait for the demands of the protesters to solidify, we invite you to follow this ever-evolving movement through iReport's Open Story, and to contribute to our assignment if you are witness to any of its incarnations anywhere in the U.S.

467 Comments
October 13, 2011
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Great article that shows these arent just a bunch of unemployed hooligans complaining that they dont have a job.  There are much bigger issues on the table.

October 13, 2011
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This is obama's attempt at shovel ready jobs. The city now has to hire more workers to shovel up the chit the "protesters" have dumped.

October 13, 2011
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If you're against the 99% then you're for the 1%. Educate yourself.

October 13, 2011
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46% are worried about government corruption.  That is great.  Problem is nobody is protesting against corruption.  That is the root cause.  They are still collecting money from corporations. President has collected millions in donations from the 1% percent we are complaining about.  If owc can ask president and white house what is going on then I am in.  I still think owc will turn in to vote for the failed presodent in 2012.  That is the reason handful of support is there. 

October 13, 2011
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Like I said..

A bunch of angry people that are not unified in thier cause.

If they are not unified they will have little no no impact at all.

 

If I was to "Occupy" I would be against corporate greed.

October 13, 2011
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To Thefinalwerd:

 

Are you kidding me? These people are not out there complaining because they want a job. I have seen many clips where they have defiantly refused any job. Their "job" is to be out there protesting, they said.

 

These people are nothing more than pawns of the obama administration's re-election tactic of sowing class warfare and division in this country. Everybody has a gripe if you look deep enough. Sure there is corruption. But its on every level. Just research the fraud perpetuated by the "poor" during Katrina.

 

There is big money behind this "protest". The unions are also out there doing obama's dirty work for continued favor from the democrat party. There is an agenda all right, and it has nothing to do with the causes stated in this article or what the protesters claim. I find it extremely hypocritical that so many who are millionaires themselves are supporting this. It was the capitalist system that made them their money. The limousine liberals know no shame.

 

The driving force behind these protests is a power play for control. Just follow the money. Where are the donations coming from propping up this "protest"? Reference the organizations backed and supported by George Soros, among others. Make no mistake about it, these protest are not about "righting wrongs", but about tearing down this nation. These are all Marxist tactics that have been used again and again throughout history. Do the research.

October 13, 2011
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losers

October 13, 2011
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46% against the government, sounds like the TEA party Patriots of 2009.  Through in the 19% upset with the Bailouts and you have 65% in Agreement with the TEA party.  Where were these people in 2009?  What took them so long?

October 13, 2011
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This total protest is a setup by the terrorist George Soros to further Soros' class-warfare agenda that his puppet Obama is furthering. Many of the protesters have been paid to be there including lodging. What a farce!

October 13, 2011
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These people aren't the 99%.  They are the fringe 5 to 10% of a party that represents about 48% of the population.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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@plumrabbit:

 

Wow you are trying waaaay to hard to accept what is wrong with this country.  Also I never said they wanted jobs, I said this protest was against government corruption.  If you honestly think that this movement is pro either party YOU need to do some research.

October 13, 2011
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I agree, there appears to be corruption in government.  Pandering to special interests and out right lies from the top all the way down to the poor as was recently mentioned.

So the protesters say Government corruption is what's making them angry.  I bet if they were asked "what specifically is corrupt and why does it make them angry," they wouldn't have a clue and would change the direction of their rant to something else.

This happens time and time again whenever one of these misguided fools is asked to intelligently answer a legitimate question.

October 13, 2011
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It adds up to 119%

October 13, 2011
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This is not Rep vs. Dem.  This is not capitalism vs. socialism.  This is We The People vs. the international corporate gangsters who have robbed our treasury and bought our congress.  This is about taking back our democracy and making it work for humanity.

October 13, 2011
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hundreds of phone calls and emails” from locals complaining about "lewdness, groping, drinking and drug use, the lack of safe access to and usage of the Park, ongoing noise at all hours, unsanitary conditions and offensive odors,” NBC New York reports.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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Bogus story

October 13, 2011
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I found an awesome job, perfect fit for my degree, two months after I graduated. Wasting time protesting instead of looking for a job isn't helping their case. You have to work for things in this country, not wait for things to land in  your lap. Also, I plan on voting for Obama again and I think this protest is idiotic, so lets not be saying its a "re-election tactic."

October 13, 2011
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119%, because they are really pissed off!

October 13, 2011
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There are necessary complaints when the upper 1% of the population has 40% of the wealth and the other 60% divide up only 40%. The system is stacked against that 99% when the Congress is highly influenced by campaign donations (bribes) from international corporations and the rich to what is in their special interests rather than for the general interests of the nation and its citizens. When the Republican appointed Supreme Court decides that corporations are people and can give unlimited and anonymous donations for elections the power of the majority of the citizens is overlooked. The president has proposed a jobs bill which has been analyzed to reduce unemployment by 1% and put people to work doing useful projects and the Republicans in Congress decide to oppose it for political gain. Control needs to be shifted back to representatives who represent the majority.

October 13, 2011
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Problem with current generation is that they do not want to compete with smart kids from all around the globe.  My house is surrounded by immigrants from India and old Russia.  They themselves are educated, masters in engineering, science and technology.  Their kids are getting professional degrees or got them.  Some of them got nice none just out of college.  I heard none of them is in owc movement.  Who are the losers now.  Many of my neighbours have lived in many other countries and finally moved to USA.  Most of time they tell this is the better place to live full of opportunities.  They tell us, we in USA are spoiled and no idea of struggle.  Everything is in abundance here.  The pictures of these demonstrations paint an ugly picture of USA abroad.  Wake up USA and work and compete.  You have all the resources and best brains in the world. 

October 13, 2011
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I've looked into their eyes and I see emptiness.  These are the next generation of hippies who want to protest so badly that they don't even bother to get a cause.

October 13, 2011
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Wait a minute!  They are protesting Governement corruption!  That would be Obama, Holder, Pelosi and Reid.  Wait!  That isn't that what the Tea Party is doing, but... but the Tea Party are evil racist whites, so the 99% must be the same as the Tea Part.  Liberal media is only helping show that Obama and his administration is not the choosen one to save us.  Remember how little Skywalker turned out.

October 13, 2011
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Unfortunately we have a "blame someone else" mentality in government which is so antithetical to the former American mindset of "do it yourself".  When I was a kid, everyone seemed to be poor, now it seems like so many of us have done well - and we did it by working hard, paying our dues and taking chances.  Now I guess people just want to get stuff without the hard work part.  Blaming "government corruption" is a canard.  Why would people want government to be more involved in our lives if it's corrupt?

October 13, 2011
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I agree that my biggest concern is corruption in government...especially the Political Action Committees (PACs) that allow the weathy and corporations to funnal millions of dollars in hopes of buying support from political parties and politicians.  One politial reform I would like to see is to remove the tax deduction for political contrabutions.  This benefits corporations and the wealthy, and the greedy politician by far the most.  I bet the middle class individual is not counting on his/her $250 donation making a big impact on his/her taxes.  I would like to see Occupy Wall Street, Occupy America focus on political finance reform for the betterment of our American government.

October 13, 2011
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I think they are just a bunch of spoiled brats that are not getting their "entitlements" like they want. I noticed the authorities are wanting them to leave at NY so they can clean up their filth. That's odd. The tea party folks could have a demonstration and the place would be clean when they left. These socialist types, dope heads and street people are a bunch of pigs wallowing in their own filth. In my opinion of course.

October 13, 2011
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if this happened in China first, CNN and all major media would be running headliners 7/24. what a fake democracy!

October 13, 2011
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If I had to pick which 99% I want to identify with, I would pick the upper 99% rather than the lower 99%.  OTOH, why sell myself short?  I am well within the upper 20%, and have worked hard to become so.  Long Live the 20%!

October 13, 2011
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So, if government corruption is really what they're protesting against, why are they on Wall Street?  Why aren't they in front of the White House and Congress? 

 

Either something doesn't add up here, or they're not thinking this through.  Or both, of course.

October 13, 2011
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If these protesters would put as much drive into success, they would be those folks they are protesting.

 

Then they could use their freedom to make the world a better place.

 

Or they could just stay on Wall Street and whine, cry, and stink.

October 13, 2011
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How about this:

You Deserve NOTHING

And Everyone Pays Everyone Benefits.

Now get off your arse, take out the nose rings and make yourself look presentable. Then and Maybe then people will take you seriously enough to hire you.

October 13, 2011
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What they really want is for the government to send them some free potato chips, because, dude! They've got the munchies sooo bad!!

October 13, 2011
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not99 - facebook

October 13, 2011
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Wherever crowds gather they will always attract a number of 'outsiders' who just want to do mischief.  The serious OWS protesters however, do have legitimate gripes and it appears that institutional corruption is at the root of almost every one. If the list of grievances could be consolidated into a single heading it would be a demand for Social Responsibility, not only corporate, but within government and the financial sector as well.   Many protestors are angry that our Democratic system has been hijacked by widespread corruption and that the real culprits have not been made accountable. Similarly, what these Protesters DO seem to want is equal opportunity to achieve....NOT handouts.  

October 13, 2011
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I love the Top 3 issues..So basically they are against the entire Obama administration. Funny how the Democratic party supports these rallies which in the end is against them.I love it, again people at these events are all morons that want to have government pay for eveything, free education, blame the Tea Party, Fox News and if you make one comment ina crowd of them they are like a Union and gang up on you. I live 2 miles from the protests and walked down there the other day.

October 13, 2011
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Why are those protesters who are screaming for free college aid not marching on Gov Jerry Brown's lawn? Just last week he signed a bill to give free college money to

illegals.

October 13, 2011
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If you really want to change the government, then tell your local politician you will not vote for them or anyone else that accepts or uses Lobbyists funding. That will force them to think and make changes, until we force the hands of the officials and hold them accountable for accepting lobbyists funds then nothing will ever change.

 

Unions are no different than lobbyists, they actually employ lobbyists and are as much a part of the problem, and just as corrupt as any political party or official.

 

Do some research and find out how many times Unions have made employees go on strike,without ever receiving compensation, how many funds have been embezzled and how many Unions reps. have been charged with being involved in Criminal enterprises.

 

This movement is less than 1% and it's mostly disillusioned students, and homeless people who refuse to work or take a job.

October 13, 2011
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The basic foundation to a successful protest is a unified cause.  Here is SF it is anything but.  The second is a clear message.  Again this is not the case here in SF.  Third is having the right message at the right place.  Again I question this here.  Although yes I can be defined as in the 99%, I do not see a common interest with this group.  Nor does it appeal to me.  The message I hear is a bunch of conspiracy theorists trying to get their message out with no solid proof.  So what I am saying is, get a clear message and a clear cause at the right place and it might make sense. Otherwise, its just a over publicized gathering for conspiracy freaks.

October 13, 2011
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Whats with the vague terms? "Wall Street" Impunity, "Corporate" greed, "Government" Corruption. Name names if you have them!! This is like complaining about bad weather - useless.

October 13, 2011
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I am protesting the removal of the Rodeo Cheeseburger from the Burger King dollar menu.

October 13, 2011
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The protesters aren't hippies and kids. They are educated voters - disillusioned, unemployed, underemployed, etc.

 

They are the true Boston Tea Party patriots. The detractors here are no different than British Redcoats protecting the 1% monarchy.

October 13, 2011
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As far as what we demand of the protesters, it's very simple.  Please bathe.

October 13, 2011
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75 responses. Out of how many total participants. Totally biased graph. Mean, Mode, Median don't reflect totality of all participants. Do a better blind survey.

October 13, 2011
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To those saying that it adds up to more than 100%.... get a life or at least learn to read.  It's not supposed to add up to 100%.  Each issue got its own vote, obviously.

October 13, 2011
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Do you know the GOP & Tea Party reps have quietly fought for exemptions from hiring American workers - for their hallowed "job creator" overlords? 

 

How patriotic is this during wartime?  It's time to let the 1% fight their own wars!!!

October 13, 2011
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For the 99%ers to get their way, they would have to shred the Constitution and us 53%ers won't let that happen.

 

If the Wall Street people did anything illegal, I would have expected the Obama's DOJ or SEC to prosecute them.  But since these are the same people gave Obama more money than any candidate in history I can understand why they haven't been taken to court. 

 

One thing the 99%ers won't be demanding is a HARDWORKING job.   LOL

October 13, 2011
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These ppl are PAID protestors... they are orchestrated by SORO'S.... get your info from other sources besides here...this is astroturf.... these are Obama's base kooks.

October 13, 2011
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With 46% protesting Government why don't they go to Washington and protest in front of the White House?  Go to Barney Frank's house or Frank Raine's House.  Maybe demonstrate in front of Hollywood actor's homes as they are Capitalists that hate Capitalists. 

October 13, 2011
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LOL -- what?  Did your trust fund run out, hipster protester?  I'm REALLY sorry you have 100k in debt for your liberal arts degree...but that's not my problem.  It's your's.  Its not government corruption that's the problem...it's YOU.

October 13, 2011
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Losers on parade. The Wall street "Scum Baggers".

October 13, 2011
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Last year the "job creators" eliminated 2.4 million American jobs - while creating 2.9 million foreign jobs.

 

The GOP won exemptions so they wouldn't have to hire Americans with the Bush tax cuts we gave them.

 

Can you afford to lose your job by voting Republican?

October 13, 2011
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I went to the first rally of Occupy Worcester in Ma. The majority of the crowd was connected to education; either as a teacher or student. Their unfinished platform had very little to do with government and mostly involved the wealthy and the financial industry. I don't like their use of Facebook. I hate the thing!

 

Even with it's downfalls, this is the closest thing I've seen that has possibilities in changing our government. Their message has to be more focused in rooting out the issues that can truly make a difference. Influence peddling. lobbying. cronyism, campaign finance reform, term limits, the monoplistic power of the two party system. It takes at least three to break a tie. We need to focus on the political process and break the stranglehold that Democrats and Republicans have on our society. Their time has come and gone. Take an oath to never vote for them again. They will dry up and blow away like dust on the wind.

October 13, 2011
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How quickly the army of paid GOP trolls can gather.

 

They are lil' tools for the 1%.  Posers, wannabes, and GOP lapdogs.

October 13, 2011
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It's not that the Wallstreet folks are doing anything illegal.  They have their puppets in the congress pass laws that allow them to rip-off the american public.

October 13, 2011
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devils can be human too.  Straight up.

October 13, 2011
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Yep.  Everything from 'Give us money that we CERTAINLY didn't earn' to 'make pot legal'.  It's definitely a very diverse set of requests.

October 13, 2011
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OWS looks like a terrible hipster music festival.

 

PBR yeah man!

Weed, you got it!

"We are changing the world man!"

 

October 13, 2011
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How exactly is government corruption independent from campaign finance reform?  The money involved in getting people elected is the primary driver for much of the corruption.  If they were not up on stage singing to their donors all the time, they would be more likely to play their actual part as men and woman hired to serve their constituents. 

October 13, 2011
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So you own a BMW 5 series, you have an office job and a big house. You feel pretty good about yourself.

 

But you owe more than your house is worth...

 

Your BMW lease payments are $1200 per month and you have zero equity...

 

Yup - you're a 1% poser who is really just a 99% loser.

October 13, 2011
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I very much liked and agree with The Protest. I am not a hippie (I did not know they still existed, really!) but a 46yr old man who retired in 2005 from the US Military and spent my best years defending the America I used to know. I thought I was defending freedom and equal opportunity for all but realize, now, we are really defending, not democracy and capitalism, but a Plutocracy and Corporatism. It is not about "republican" vs "democrat" or "liberal" vs "conservative" but about a strong shift that has taken place where the playing field is NOT level and the cards are stacked in the favor of the wealthy and the elite.  Washington and Wall Street have gotten into bed with each other and make mad, passionate love to each other while the rest of us voyeuristically watch their egregious porn show.  They are having a party that no one else is invited to - they have become drunk on their own power and intoxicated by their own piles of wealth.  For the elite (whether Democrat or Republican), they do not really want the status-quo to change - they benefit way too much from it!  The protest, though not perfect, is necessary because unbridled greed will continue to fester like a canker-sore on a body and, eventually, destroy the very organism it got it's life from. KEEP GOING PROTESTORS - YOU ARE SERVING THE BEST INTERESTS OF YOUR COUNTRY! MAY GOD, THE TRUE, LOVING AND COMPASSIONATE ONE, BLESS YOU EFFORTS WITH SUCCESS.

October 13, 2011
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Everyone should be standing together on this...Why?...Is there anyone who really thinks that corporations should

be allowed to influence election results by being allowed to donate endless amounts to candidates...Of course not!... Corporations are people my A*!...Jobs...Is there anyone who does not know at least one person that has lost their job to out-sourcing...Of course not!...Globalization obviously has not worked well for millions of American families... But we have lost jobs so that the top 1% could make larger profits for themselves...They say they need to be globally competitive...A Big also my A*...Protecting our own industries and limiting competition to national companies (curbing imports) world work just fine...Don't allow the media...(For example Fox) to pull us apart on these issues by making them political...We can fight over other issues down the road...But today we need to stand together...It is about preventing any further erosion of the American quality of life for the remaining 99% of us.

October 13, 2011
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"tnoutlaw1971" some really points, good to know there are some smart people out there.  Teaclown the key thing is that you bought the car and house and created/sustained jobs by buying these items. Most people especially the rich end up paying off their debt. Most people have debt and end up paying it off overtime. They are not asking for a free ride, which is my impression of the Wall St. protestors.

October 13, 2011
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I think its pretty funny all those #s add up to 119% -- this is the kind of liberal slanted polling and math you can expect from that liberal spin machine CNN that forces this drivel down our throats.

October 13, 2011
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For all the outrage that the protesters and their supporters are expressing, this story is already fading from the collective mind set.  This movement will be nothing but a fart in the zeitgeist - a footnote in the Time Magazine retrospective for 2011.

 

True story: My kid is an idealistic 21-year-old, unemployed musician who believes she should be on Wall Street protesting "the System".  She wants to borrow my BMW to drive to NYC and stay with my cousin who lives in 3 million dollar suite on West 64th one building away from Central Park. 

 

Because I love her, I could only say to her, "Darling Daughter, you just don't get it."

October 13, 2011
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Speakerboy: EXACTLY if wealthy people STOP buying houses, cars, vacations, luxury items and expensive dinners at restaurants think how many people it will put out of a job like the car dealers and car companies, the realtor, the bank and tellers, restauranteurs, waiters and bus boys, travel agencys and airlines, etc etc. Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids. Grow up and go back to school.

October 13, 2011
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If the major concern is Government corruption, why aren't the protestors in Washington D.C, rather than NYC?

October 13, 2011
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De-regulation passed in 1999 has created much of the mess we are in right now.  Reinstating the Glass-Steagall act will restore the healthy barrier that should exist between Commercial banks and Investment banks. (I believe they shouldn't be gambling with other people's money).  This will be a good first step towards fixing our broken economy. The benefits of this bill will far outweigh any negatives on the banking industry by strengthening the banks that are solvent and weeding out the bad ones that aren't. Glass-Steagall protection worked for 40 years following the Great Depression, by keeping everyone honest. Call your Congressman or Senator and ask that they support HR 1489.

October 13, 2011
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Because Wall Street is the symbol of the most massive and transparent act of corruption in U.S history.

October 13, 2011
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NOFORNMAN, I hope your wrong and the Protest gathers steam but your true story was funny! Thanks for sharing that - you sound like you have a good heart!

October 13, 2011
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Ever since OWS first started it seems to have brought out the worst Americans possible in opposition of the movement. But what I am finding ironic today is that the exact same people who claim NOT to know what OWS protesters are there for, or what they want from the protest, are completely certain that the recent Iran plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to the US is a false flag operation designed to distract the public from scandal allegations against Eric Holder. I have never seen such stupidity in my lifetime. It boggles the mind.

October 13, 2011
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I was in Atlanta over the weekend and I saw one of these Obamavilles near the campus of Georgia Tech.  I call it an Obamaville because many of these people were setting up semi-permanent residence in the park and planning to hold out indefinitely.  We could also call the Reid'sburgs or Pelositowns.

 

I'll give credit to Harry Turtledove for coining the phrase in several of his books (AKA the center cannot hold) but I think it fits.  These are shanty towns that are directly linked to President Obama's failed policies.

October 13, 2011
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Parasailin...No one is asking for a free ride..That's just Fox spin...People are just asking for a fair chance at the American Dream...The wealthy are investing in emerging economies around the world world where they can exploit labor and avoid taxes so they can can make ridiculous amounts of money...They feel no obligation to the country and the people who paved the way for their success...Get your head on straight...It's pure greed...and I bet you think your a Patriot

October 13, 2011
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God I hope this turns into civil war!

October 13, 2011
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Dave: Americans have had a chance at the American Dream ever since my father came here as an Italian immigrant back in 1968 (ever since Ellis Island and before in fact maybe the Mayflower). My father came here with nothing but the clothes on his back he worked until he had the money to buy his restaurant and opened a chain of them. Wall Street never hindered his progress and banks only helped him get loans since he had great credit. My father has since passed but his hard work and sacrifice took care of my mother, brothers and sisters they are now fairly well off and dont have to worry much as they might have had he not worked so hard or believed so fervently in capitalism and the American dream.

October 13, 2011
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These people realize that Alec Baldwin makes money by advertising for Capital One?  With the celebrities and union thugs aligning themselves with this group of people, their message has been hijacked into class warfare.  Nothing more.  When they start protesting at their liberal buddies' houses, then maybe people will pay attention. 

October 13, 2011
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Unfortunately this protest is against the symptoms of the problems inherent in America, not the actual cause.  Wall Street, by its design, is a marketplace for investing in business which in itself works in a functional Capitalist model.  But Capitalism by its nature of freedom to earn (or lose) money with the risks taken has to be accepted on the nature that its cyclic and that there are levels of economic players involved.  A self-made millionaire should not be tarred & feathered for being a millionaire BECAUSE Joe-The-Plumber lost his job.  That's the cycle of Capitalism and it needs to be accepted if one wants to accept the FREEDOM & LIBERTY that the country was founded on.  Occupy Wall Street in essence wants COMMUNISM (Socialism) to become the normal state, and if you haven't looked around recently, the USA is already the United Socialist America - almost every plank of the Marxist movement is in place RIGHT NOW in America.  What we should be protesting is this movement towards Socialism.  We should be asking the Government to invest in America without asking for a handout.  When your next door neighbor is raking his leaves and doing heavy yard work on FEDERAL DISABILITY for a bad back, America has a problem.  When you can take advantage of the government instead of working for your own survival, you're contributing to the problem.  OWS misses the point.  OK, so there's no jobs out there so one can't say "get a job" but at least be a self-made-man and work anyways.  Start a business building furniture in your garage if you're good with wood.  Repair cars if you're good with mechanical things.  Take payment in what will sustain you but don't expect the government to hand you your inheritance.  it doesn't work that way, America.

October 13, 2011
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As for OWS's insistence that their lack of goals be a merit, I reply that it is not an unreasonable expectation for those who can make change to await an adult, prepared agenda to do business over.  The movement won't be considered "mature" until it can speak coherently.  It would be helpful to learn from the path the Tea Party carved instead of attempting to reinvent the same wheel.

October 13, 2011
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Corruption is a blanket term. That's like saying that you are going to jail because you were a bad boy(or girl). Our issues with the government have to be broken down into parts and only then can demands and repercussians be meted out. If the ultimate goal of a government working for all CITIZENS equally without favoritism, then everything else will fall into place. Liberal and conserative generalizations need to be taken out of the dialogue. By their very nature, the words are divisive. Focusing on the shortcomings of our political system will get most everybody on board; except maybe the people who game the system.

October 13, 2011
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For those of you who think these protests are some kind of Marxist conspiracy, I would urge you to ask yourself why so many large multi-national corporations (G.E. Exxon-Mobile, Dupont, Google, etc.) pay nothing in U.S. income tax.  I believe it's because these corporations bribed (campaign donations) our lawmakers to write laws to make this possible.  How can even a conservative be in favor of that?  Instead of throwing insults, maybe we can learn from these discussions how to rescue our country from economic disaster. 

October 13, 2011
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for those who disparage Occupy Wall Street here's something to think about.....this is America and people have a Constitutional right to gather and to voice their grievances publicly as long as they do it peacefully. If you happen to be NY or LA or Boston, from one citizen to another, please show respect for the protesters.  Consider also that even if you believe yourself to be in the elite 1%, the way things are going in this country, you could be joining their ranks tomorrow.

October 13, 2011
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With all respect, our political system is just fine.  It's the people we've elected that are the problem.  Although I doubt it, I would hope that the corruption they seek to identify takes aim at more than one side of the aisle. 

October 13, 2011
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Any successful movement/protest needs ONE demand everyone can get behind. It must be simple and readily understood. Here it is:

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

IT'S SIMPLE COMPLETE AND POWERFUL.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

 

 

October 13, 2011
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There are a lot of truly ignorant people here posting about how these protesters are losers, or want jobs, or want entitlements, etc. Or blame it on Obama and a re-election tactic. You people are deluded.

 

As someone who has participated in the Chicago branch of this movement, and who has been networked with numerous protesters, I can honestly say you all need to stop quoting party lines and actually go out and, oh, heaven forbid, talk to these people yourselves.

 

They are not paid to be there. The majority in chicago that I met actually DO have jobs and were taking PTO to cover their protest time. This isn't about entitlements. This isn't about 'they took our jobs!' It's about coporations posting record profits (seriously, look at the research and statistics on this- if you haven't and you're arguing against this, than you are simply ignorant), while laying off record amounts of people, while making the rest do double or triple the work they normally would in most cases. These individuals pay themselves millions of dollars in BONUSES. Additionally, this has been the golden age for banks raking in money as well. Seriously. Do a search on the statistics. If you still don't believe in this movement after doing so- you're either heartless, part of the 1%, or simply don't give a care about your fellow countrymen.

October 13, 2011
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Wow, then they are protesting Obama and his liberal cronies!  Well done I say!  They have more in common with the Tea Party than first thought!

October 13, 2011
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How do OWS supporters feel about the violence that has been spouted by speakers at some of your rallies? They are wanting a violent over-throw of America. Are they welcomed into the overall group or will you denounce them? Specifically I am talking about Occupy L.A. & Occupy Oakland ... I am sure there are other examples.

October 13, 2011
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Reuters reports a George Soros funded group from Canada called Adbusters is the starting point for these protests. Where is that story on CNN? This sit in stinks in more ways than one. Yes, a new vision of responsibility is needed for all of us, from the welfare mom to the CEO, but these "occupy" people are being duped. 

October 13, 2011
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Has anyone thought about opening up a brick throwing stand there on Wall Street. Start out at 10 bucks a brick and after the first 10 bullseyes are snapped digitally up it to 20 and so on and so forth.  Have $40 dollar bricks with pigs painted on them if you have a special toss in mind...   

October 13, 2011
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Enough with the debate/heat/anger/rhetoric/etc... Get behind one demand that covers all grievances/disputes.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

Elect all new members that are not owned by the banks/insurance/oil companies. This should satisfy republicans, democrats. young&old, sane and insane, good and bad people, liberal and conservative people. It cannot work unless YOU get behind it. Thats means YOU.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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It's interesting that 90% of members of this so-called Jobs Council were Democrat fund raisers for Obama in 2008! And, each of these cronies are being paid between $200,000 and $500,000 for being on this council! Gee, want to talk about Americans who don't have jobs and Obama hypocrisy? This so-called Jobs Council is no more than a bogus team of Obama CEO fundraisers, whose companies have contributed to Obama's political campaign! Now, the Job Czar appointed by Obama is former CEO of General Electric, whose company also contributed millions to Obama's campaign. Of course, Presidents from both parties do this, and both parties are equally corrupt! So, to those Occupy Wall Street people: you're being played by the master puppeteer himself...Mr. Obama! Your cause has been hijacked by opportunists and unions, whose motivation is to just get more publicity. They have no intention of taking down Wall Street, as they too, get paid under the table from these companies! When all your picketing ends, not many things will really change! It's a sad reality, and you're being strung up and played like an instrument!

October 13, 2011
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CNN, you are hypocrites for so lovingly trying to find out what the OWS protesters want when you ignored the tea party protests of 2009.

October 13, 2011
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We want true democracy not just slaves for the most days of year and spending 1 day of each year in voting booths to vote "public officials"

October 13, 2011
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tea partiers obviously wanted GOP trash

October 13, 2011
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Um, okay... so if the graph is correct and the majority of the Occupiers are protesting government corruption, why aren't they in Washington, DC?

October 13, 2011
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their owners are on wall street

October 13, 2011
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If the powers and leaders that control our current government did secretly wish to do away with our rights our wealth and our freedoms and leave us all as serfs dependent on the government for what little money we make someday make and the things we need--- the idea would be to make us all hate fight and disagree with each other to do the bidding of these persons. This is what happened in Nazi Germany when the people who took over the government blamed the jews for lost wealth. Our leaders ought to plead with the public for peace, love and understanding during these trying times. Not try to turn us all against each other. Discriminating against the wealthy is no different than discriminating against skin color. Why would these leaders cheer on such divisiveness. They will wash their hands of it if violence and death ever comes from it.

October 13, 2011
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So if the protesters are against government corruption, doesn't that mean that those opposed to the protesters like government corruption?

October 13, 2011
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I've got a coffee cup that has the following written on it......"If you agree with me, you would be right". It seems that the American citizen thinks that way. There is NO room for the "truth". So sad.

October 13, 2011
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MASSIVE WITHDRAWAL Occupy Wall Street Phase II:

 

Show the banks the potential power of the 99%!

 

ACTION:

 

Massive Withdrawal (get the addiction to capitalist society withdrawal reference?).

 

HOW:

 

All 99%ers withdraw $100 from the bank

 

WHEN:

 

On Halloween - Monday October 31st at 12pm Noon EST.

 

VISION:

 

A scary Halloween for corporate America: Demonstrating to the banks the potential power of the people.

 

Are you with me?| Pass it on:

October 13, 2011
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Patience is key in movements like this. The OWS do not want to latch onto just a couple issues. There are so many that its impossible to do so. Many of these issues can not be resolved 1 by 1. Examples: The government and corporations, like it or not, are so tightly linked that to change one you have to change the other. You can not change one with out the other. Its just to complex. All of these issues are important to someone and unimportant to another. Some people can not even figure out what they want to eat for dinner, much less latch onto 1 issue that is the most important.

October 13, 2011
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Like I said discriminating against someone for their wealth is no different than discriminating against someone for their skin color. Its wrong!

October 13, 2011
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There won't be a set list of demands because I don't think this is a protest against a specific issue. This is a cross generational demonstration about being mad; and that's a good thing. Joe and Jane average have been taking it in the pants for about 30 years now and they are tired of being treated like a disposable resource. We can only affect a cultural change in how business is done if people stand up as human beings and stop being scared cattle.

October 13, 2011
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mommers: CNN is one of George Soros' purchased media outlets, whose main agenda is to advance progressive/liberal views--even if they have to lie to cast them!  CNN don't believe in true journalism, where both sides are presented equally.  Their bias toward socialism and liberalism is very clear, as long as Soros' keep feeding them millions in ads revenue!  The days of real journalism are long gone!

October 13, 2011
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People are mad that corporations are not regulated appropriately. The reason for that is that corporations have used their financial influence to stock the government with officials who will not regulate them. Our government has been hijacked by the 1% who used their money to influence elections and bribe/lobby politicians. We the protesters want that to stop.

October 13, 2011
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If all the Wall Street investors happened to be black or hispanics or women or some religion --- would it be ok to discriminate against one particular group of people? No of course not.

October 13, 2011
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"Corporations are not people" - that sign says what essentially and core is what they want. They want Corporations to be stripped of them being able to act and protect themselves and represent themselves, the corporations with the same rights as a human individual. Sort of like a giant entity.

 

This anti-corporate idea or movement was started when these activists, the majority of them were just but little snot nosers playing with their Pokemon chips and watching Power Rangers.

 

ADBUSTERS hypocritically working within a corporate run press and magazine distribution system, selling their magazines at news stands and corporate book stores, started this notion in the late 90's.

 

Finally, through the Arab spring and utter wackery that the internet has spawned in society, they've taken advantage of the political, protesting environment. Protesting, throwing fists, firing guns, rioting in the UK, heck all around the world has become fashionable. Everywhere a protest all around the world.

 

But its an empty victory as those that want and cause revolution have NOTHING to replace what they topple.

October 13, 2011
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mrroper: Fine if you want more regulations ask this of your government because no one on Wall Street is doing anything that the law doesnt allow them to do. You cant change Wall Street but you certainly can change who runs this country and our congress by voting.

October 13, 2011
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Parsailin...We have something in common...My grandfather was an Italian immigrant...My father a World War II war hero...They both did well in America...But there existed opportunities for them to raise their families and spawn

generations of successful educated children...While I deny no person the opportunity to get rich,I question the ethics they employ to do so...Globalization has turned American business men, that were educated in schools we all paid for through taxes... into going from successful to greedy...Everyone deserves a shot at the American Dream, but nothing trickles down, it is staying at the top, no matter the tax breaks they have been received, which were and are being paid for for by all of us...They just continue to turn their back on America simply to have it all for themselves...We need to do far better then that for each other...This is why we all need to stand together on this.

October 13, 2011
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Government corruption has been about the same as it always has.  Best thing you can do about it is vote for small government.  You can't corrupt what is not there.  If you want less campaign money influencing politicians support term limits.  

October 13, 2011
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I really don’t think that it is more like 10% not 99%. And I really don’t get from some of the comments that they are working people with jobs. I know I can’t take 3 weeks off and sit around in a park. And they really need to go were the problem started D.C and look up frank and his buddy in the Senate. That were controlling this stuff. And less we forget the Dems were in control of the house and the senate when this stuff started. They were in power for 2 years before Obama took office so. So this is a tactic by the present admin to draw attention away from them and put it on somebody else. Same old political bull. It is time it stop. Do these people really  really know why they are there or are they just there because of some presidential   talking points of the rich. 1% of the country now how on GODS green earth is taxing to death 1 % of the people going to bring us out of this pit we are in. It will not. Ask your self this. The one that truly have a job if there are any at this thing. If you worked your butt off to get were you are  would you say to the Government hey guys my taxes are to low. Here  have some more of my hard earned money. And if you do don’t plan on getting any were  to soon. So how do you want to tell you that you make to much money .

October 13, 2011
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msnlive - above stated that this current generation doesn't want to compete. Very true. CBS Evening News recently had a report on Americans going to China to work because the jobs were scarce here.

 

I think its for another reason - they don't want to compete or work their way up and want INSTANT gratification and titles that otherwise would take them YEARS of hard work to attain.

 

In the report several Millennials, kind of hipstery and one not too bright a fellow were in China living, working and or looking for work. One couple, in their twenties went to China - he got a job as a somekind of senior exec, she as a autism teacher.

 

Now, how can he become or as they put it "land his dream job" as a higher tier position that would otherwise take YEARS to reach in the USA?

 

Of COURSE China is going to give you any title you want in any badly run company, no matter HOW fancy and modern it looks, trust me, they work ultra messy, just to give you a job in their company because you're American.

 

Anyway, thought I'd point that out as just a small example of the character of of the current millennial generation, not a full encompassing example, but very telling of the kind of things they are doing, Im sure there are a few smart hard working bright people amongst them.

October 13, 2011
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I observed the movement closely. We need to think about it in a depth. The movement will have the power to break the iron and ice and give it a chance for those who understand it to tell. The greedy is not a thing to protest because it has never changed in the history that is as long as the human society exists. Therefore the protest will not change it. The root cause of all the problems we are facing now is the advanced technology and economic globalization. It is similar to the history when the steam engine comes and the productivity increased. It brings to us the good things, and also the problems. We need to change the old concepts to the new concepts, and then we can find the reason and solutions.

October 13, 2011
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Real change cannot begin until Campaign Finance Law is rewritten.  Recently, The U.S. Supreme Court changed this law for the worse by allowing corporations to make campaign contributions without a cap.  Shortly after Romney accepted a $1 million contribution from a corporation that was quickly dissolved.  However, individuals are allowed to make contributions with a cap of $5,000.  ONLY registered voters should be allowed to make contributions and the cap should be lowered to an amount that any registered voter can afford ... $5.  Our public servants are prostituting themselves to corporations.  These corporations are the large international corporations who act more like monarchs and treat the public as their servants.  These corporations have destroyed the mom and pop businesses of America who create jobs.  These corporations take jobs abroad to increase profits and avoid paying income taxes.

October 13, 2011
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Concerning Wall Street Corporate Terrorism:

 

Any competent person sees the real numbers. The U.S. of America and the global economy is in a depression.

 

If you work for the media or the government you can bear false witness and deny the mathematical facts.

 

The U.S. is going into depression that mean everyone loses!

 

The word is ‘Corporate Terrorism’.

 

The citizens of the U.S. have no representation.

 

Wall Street Corporate lawyers are Dictators, dictating U.S. Government Policies, dictating The Common Wealth of U.S. Citizens.

 

Corporate Lobbyists have destroyed ‘Protectionism’ and ‘The Sherman Antitrust’.

 

‘Protectionism’ refers to policies or doctrines which protect businesses and workers within the U.S. Protectionism keeps the money in circulation within the U.S. (Circular Flow). Protectionism is the practice of shielding a country's domestic industries from foreign harm. Tariffs protect the human rights of U.S. citizens. For example Chinese women are forced to have abortions. Today the money flow one way: out of the U.S. - to Slave Labor - to the Tyranny of Communist China and Oppressed India.

 

‘The Sherman Antitrust Act’ was instated after the 1929 Great Depression. History repeats itself now with Globalization; one monopoly; one outsourced supplier; every U.S. Citizens labor and profession in imminent danger. International corporate lobbyists are terrorists.

**WARNING**International Corporate Lobbyists (Wall Street) have taken control over the U.S. Government.

The U.S has no manufacturing and no employment.

The U.S. has no Internal Revenue.

What will happen when the U.S. government sends a Reduction in Force Notice to the U.S. military?

We the people shall try the Wall Street Corporate Terrorists (Executives). Corporate Terrorism is supporting: communism, monopolistic practices, unfair trade, malice, and inciting riots.

 

The Citizens

 

 

 

October 13, 2011
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I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN LIQUIDATING COMPANIES... I HAVE OUTSOURCED 100’s OF U.S. CITIZENS JOBS TO COMMUNIST CHINA AND OPPRESSED INDIA… I SUPPORT BUSH-OBAMA ECONOMICS… I  SUPPORT THE SLAVERY (SLAVE LABOR)... I SUPPORT THE 1% BUSH-OBAMA ECONOMICS…

**WARNING** THE U.S. IS GOING INTO A DEPRESSION LIQUIDATE ANY EQUITY YOU HAVE IN THE U.S… SUPPORT THE BUSH-OBAMA ECONOMICS - LIQUIDATE, OUTSOURCE AND DESTROY THE U.S.

 

October 13, 2011
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In the words of the late great John lennon, "Power to the People, Right On." The above comment by Henfer is also right on.

October 13, 2011
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Thank you, Victor3.  Very well put.

October 13, 2011
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BoA CEO, "We have a right to make a profit". 

 

'Profit' yes, 'Killing', NO !

 

Banks and Oil corporations have been steadily merging over the years, becoming formidable monopolies.  Not satisfied making a profit, they make a 'killing' off our (middle class) backs.

October 13, 2011
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The top five themes are all either related, or the product of the other themes..  The entire thing can be grouped under "GREED"..  Job scarcity is the result of corporate greed and corrupt politicians passing laws to enable corporations to make goods elsewhere cheaper than at home..  Corporate greed and Government corruption are tied hand to hand..  If the corporations weren't waving money at politicians to change laws that in turn allow corporations to make more profits, or pay less taxes, then what would a politician be doing?  Maybe serving the people that elected he/she into office.  Wall street is the PIMP that facilitates these two getting together...  The bailout was probably designed by the especially greedy corporations known as BANKS from day one..

October 13, 2011
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Massive Corruption! Unemployment! What to Do?!? What to Do?!?....

 

Lets Go Camping Everybody! We Can Make Signs! Shoot The Chit on How The Man Keeps Us Down! Yea!...

 

Come On! Everybody Join Me!...KUMBAYA MY LORD! KUMBAYAAA! KUMBAYA MY LORD! KUMBAYAA!  

October 13, 2011
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From what I have seen of this so call the lefts tea party. Is shades of acorn. What gave it away was when they marched on the homes of people that are in the higher up of wall street. If any of these people are retired and have pensions they are protesting the very people that make sure they get there money every month. Isn’t that like biting the hand that feeds you.. Do they really think that doing that is going to change things. Look at the Tea Party .you can say what you want but there  complaint threw out the movement was unified. Small Government ,return to a constitutional correct Government  and stop the spending. They are just there to be there look at how they treat the park they are in .they have no respect for anything or anybody. To me this is just  a bunch of recycled 1960 hippy ideas. So what Iam saying is  does not move me. This is not going to create jobs one little bit .other then the ones that are getting paid to sit in the park.

October 13, 2011
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parasailin. You don't protest the puppets but the puppeteers. Good luck voting when your choice is between pro-corporate puppet and another pro-corporate puppet.

We have corrupt Congress, corrupt Senate, corrupt Supreme Court, and corrupt rich. Wall Street is our time Bastille. Let's take it down.

October 13, 2011
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99%? More like 9.1%.

October 13, 2011
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ARE YOU SERIOUS CNN??? These ppl are being PAID to sit there.... this is Astroturf at its finest... like all of Obamas CRISIS'S...... their being paid by SOROS..  do your RESEARCH CNN.

October 13, 2011
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Memo to the “1 Percent”: Noblesse Oblige is an Obligation for a Reason

www.lordwestover.blogspot.com

 

These “occupy” Wall Street protests have arisen from the same protests that always arise when the masses sense through either their harsh living conditions or their rather miserable prospects in life that, indeed, their Nobles (or rich people as you Americans know them) have abrogated their solemn moral responsibility to contribute to the betterment of humanity.

 

Unfortunately, because you Americans sadly have no official nobility, you seem to think Noblesse Oblige does not apply to your wealthy and powerful citizens simply because it has the word “noble” in it.  How wrong you would be!

Here is Webster’s definition (Mr. smarty pants Webster was American, so fear not): Noblesse Oblige – the moral obligation of those of high birth (like me) or powerful positions (like your “1 Percent” etc.), to act with honor, kindness and generosity, etc.

 

It is this last part (in case it escaped you) the “honor, kindness and generosity” thing (or the lack there of) that is really at the core of these protests.

 

So, I see it this way: You Americans who fall within Mr. Smarty Pant’s definition of Noblesse Oblige need to make a simple choice: Civilization or Chaos. And just remember, one’s high walls, security systems and gated communities have about as much ability to stop massive revolt as your lovely garden hedge to stop a tsunami. Just ask the Russian imperials.

 

October 13, 2011
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Government gets its marching orders from Wall Street.  Politicians will give you platitudes until you go away.  But the source of the marching orders: monied interests, gets much more uncomfortable at having a spotlight shining on their ill-gotten gains.

October 13, 2011
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Knowingly and actively seeking to borrow money, accepting the loan, spending the money,....and then saying you shouldn't have to pay it back?!?!  Talk about greed in America.

October 13, 2011
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Here's a little personal note to the politicians.

I've had email exchanges with lots of family and friends lately about what's wrong with America. The common thread? Our politician don't represent us anymore. They're bought and paid for by big money special interests.

If you're a Washington politician, I'd suggest you start thinking about about how to fix this. It's clear this hasn't been in your interest, since big money put you into power, but it's going to be very soon. This movement is only going to grow, since millions of us are quietly thinking the same thoughts.

 

October 13, 2011
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Real change cannot begin until Campaign Finance Law is rewritten.  Recently, The U.S. Supreme Court changed this law for the worse by allowing corporations to make campaign contributions without a cap.  Shortly after Romney accepted a $1 million contribution from a corporation that was quickly dissolved.  However, individuals are allowed to make contributions with a cap of $5,000.  ONLY registered voters should be allowed to make contributions and the cap should be lowered to an amount that any registered voter can afford ... $5.  Our public servants are prostituting themselves to corporations.  These corporations are the large international corporations who act more like monarchs and treat the public as their servants.  These corporations have destroyed the mom and pop businesses of America who create jobs.  These corporations take jobs abroad to increase profits and avoid paying income taxes.

October 13, 2011
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And people wonder why all of the jobs are going to china...

October 13, 2011
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Obama's administration is like watching a really bad SOAP OPERA.... everything is created, manipulated, and by design.   This is how DICTATORS take over... creating CRISIS..... get your head out of the sand Americans... the tipping point is coming quickly and there's no going back once it tips..... FREEDOMS YOU LOVE ARE ABOUT TO BE LOST.  Do it for your children if nothing else... REJECT THIS ADMINISTRATION.

October 13, 2011
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angryhermes  and when it comes down what are you going to do to pay for what you get or even for food from were ever. there will be no checks from any were. When that happens there will be no work .do you think the governemt will have the means to pay you or help you they get there money from the working stiff that pays taxes and dependes on wall street for the stocks to do good for there retirement. so what you are saying is because you don`t have a life no one should.

October 13, 2011
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Obama's administration is like watching a really bad SOAP OPERA.... everything is created, manipulated, and by design.   This is how DICTATORS take over... creating CRISIS..... get your head out of the sand Americans... the tipping point is coming quickly and there's no going back once it tips..... FREEDOMS YOU LOVE ARE ABOUT TO BE LOST.  Do it for your children if nothing else... REJECT THIS ADMINISTRATION.

October 13, 2011
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The Wall Street Movement is one of the lamest I've seen in a long time and has far more following it than participating in it.

 

The core thing the "what are you protesting?" stats show us: it isn't an organized protest -looks like a very small handful of losers buying into Obama's "Let's blame Wallstreet" approach for his economic failures. 

 

How many people are still waiting for the market to rebound in order for their 401Ks to recover in value?  Rather than camping on Wall Street, they should be doing it at the Washington mall, closer to where the problem recides - in PA Ave.

October 13, 2011
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Obama's administration is like watching a really bad SOAP OPERA.... everything is created, manipulated, and by design.   This is how DICTATORS take over... creating CRISIS..... get your head out of the sand Americans... the tipping point is coming quickly and there's no going back once it tips..... FREEDOMS YOU LOVE ARE ABOUT TO BE LOST.  Do it for your children if nothing else... REJECT THIS ADMINISTRATION.

October 13, 2011
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This whole deal reminds me of a South Park episode where the towns people were all scared of child abductors so they gathered at town hall - rabble rabble rabble rabble..  They decided that they needed to build a city wall to protect them.  LOL - what a bunch of losers.  Seems the only occupation this crowd has is to Occupy Wall Street and getting stoned.

October 13, 2011
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drhmichigan...In 2004, corporations were given a tax holiday so as to bring back the money they are keeping off-shore...but still no jobs here...They have been enjoying a payroll tax holiday...But still no jobs...At this point it is foolish to believe these corporations and their top administrative people (CEOs,etc)along with the major stock holders are concerned with anything but keeping it all for themselves...Nothing seems to trickle down and our economic policy has to change if America is to survive..Let's face it...American CEOs are the highest paid in the world by a huge percentage...We can't afford these guys...They are just plain greedy and many of these protesters are just asking for a shot at the American Dream...Wall Street controls our government through political contributions making Wall Street the perfect

place for this demonstration.

October 13, 2011
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It never ceases to amaze me how similar the Tea Party people and the Wall Street protesters are in their criticisms of each other.  Wall Streeters say the Tea Party is funded by the Koch brothers.  Tea Party says Soros is funding the Wall Street folks.  Wall Streeters say Tea Party busses people in an pays for them.  Tea Party people say Wall Streeters busses people in and pays for them.  These two groups are the angry fringe right and angry fringe left.  Most in the USA are in the middle, but we are too busy for all these silly rallies with their impractical agendas (Tea Party: "cut everything!"......Wall Streeters: "Tax more!").  Simplistic nonsense. 

October 13, 2011
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Its sad to see so many Mindless Sheep and Useful Idiots actually buying into this foolishness..... Open yours eyes guys... your on the WRONG side if you love FREEDOM.

 

October 13, 2011
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Want to make a REAL CHANGE! Lets put people in office on our behalf that have REAL BALLS!!

 

Ron Paul For President!

 

If he's not nominated, I will vote Obama!! You don't hand out dixie cups to a sinking boat taking on water. You either replace it or swim.

October 13, 2011
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The 46% represents the comments of Fox and Tea Party trolls.

October 13, 2011
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Why are these ppl jealous of the rich ppls money??? They want to be rich too???  If you dont want other ppl to have money then why do you so DESPERATELY want to take it for yourself from them???  PATHETIC.

 

October 13, 2011
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Dozens of corporations pay ZERO tax yet the Republicans want them to pay less and have no regulations while they outsource every job possible chasing the $1 per hour wage.

Do you remember when the river caught on fire and smog blotted out the sun? The corporations and Republicans want

to take you back to the good old days and complete the take over of the robber barons.

October 13, 2011
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If you are buying into this... you are siding with Socialists who in the end are going to take your freedoms, your childrens freedoms, and ANY money you have and divy it out as they see fit.  You are siding with an EVIL Enemy.

October 13, 2011
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I feel the occupy wall street is a great movement however if they want to be taken serious then please clean up your act loose the hippie fest, protest like you want to be taken serious, There is no voice to this movement it is just a bunch of people sleeping in the city looking like they are homeless. lets see some back bone with a clear message to make this go forward. Example the martin luther king civil rights movement . there was leader ship . come people pull this together stand strong and gain the respect you deserve.. tell the goverement what you want

October 13, 2011
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I bet the majority of people commenting are government employed, blood suckers, with nothing better to do. No wonder we are in this mess. DO YOU PEOPLE EVER WORK?

October 13, 2011
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the 99 percent know their representative is owned by capitalists but only 10% are in such dire straits their only option is to now gather together as a force in hope something will change.     

October 13, 2011
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They will say and do ANYTHING... lie, cheat, steal... to convince you they are morally better.  These Socialists are going to end up ENSLAVING YOU in the end.... OPEN YOUR EYES.  Research the lives of ppl living under SOCIALISM.  ITS NOT PRETTY.

October 13, 2011
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The poll shows that Government greed is 3 times more of a concern than Corporate greed.  So WHY are they at Wall Street?

October 13, 2011
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Powerful Complete Easy to the point.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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Dave3000 tell me this if you were  a owner of a company in this climate would you hire anybody. Or would you try to keep what you have and the jobs of the people you have working for you. Or just hire to hire. I would say you would not have a company very long and the people that did work for you would be looking. With the stuff coming out of this admin and the stupidity of this admin. You would have to be nuts. And just so you know wall street does not make crest jobs for every body. and if they do bring down wall street How many people will be with out a job. Do you actual think taxing corps more will make them hire more. And really  who’s fault is that  that they haven’t done that yet .just remember the republicans have only had control of the house for 10 months who was in control the past 6 years of both houses. So how’s the juice  taste now.

October 13, 2011
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Proves that the problem is with government.

October 13, 2011
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These OCCUPIERS are the 1 Percent.  (just sounds better to convince you they are the majority by calling themselves the 99%.  THEY ARE THE 1 PERCENT.  Dont be a MINDLESS Sheep and get pulled in by empty words.  This OCCUPY movement is run by SOCIALISTS.  They are here to take AWAY your FREEDOM!!!  OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA.

October 13, 2011
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Only the wealthy can take political office.  The gap between the wealthy and the rest of America is widening.  What does that say about the future of the majority?  Something must be done.  If you aren't on the side of the protesters, you have your head in the sand.

October 13, 2011
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I just want to state that 99% of the comments I read on here are completely wrong, ignorant or excessively  polarized and it saddens me that America REALLY IS full of a bunch of mindless idiots.

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = 1 PERCENT.

October 13, 2011
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because their representative's owner(s) are on wall street

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality.

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

October 13, 2011
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Rally around ONE demand that covers all problems... Less talk more action. Get to the point...

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

They have no fear of this movement. If everyone gets behind this demand fear will set in overnight. Hold new elections. Do it for the US. Read more on my bog. Thanks.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

October 13, 2011
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You want corporate money and policies out of government?  In 2012, VOTE OUT OF OFFICE corporations' chief enablers, defenders, and water carriers, Republicans and tea partiers.

October 13, 2011
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I like the picture on the CNN main page.  A protest poster that says:

 

"Money is not free speech.  Corporations are not people."

 

Money isn't speech...  but its integral to the ability to have your  words broadly heard.

 

Which is why candidates are always doing fund raises for their re-elections.

 

And corporations aren't people.  Corporations are GROUPS of people working towards a common cause... like unions, clubs, and well-organized protests.

 

The only difference is what those groups of people are trying to accomplish. 

 

 

October 13, 2011
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Imagine the prosperity if all tax rates and immigration rates were set at close to ZERO.    

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR  Amen to that.

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

October 13, 2011
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I guess this whole thing would be a lot more inspiring if 80% of the people interviewed had any sort of realistic or conveyable message. Sadly a lot of the people I've heard from seem to just be wanting more money without any real justification other than somebody else has more.  I'm all for a spirited dialogue, but this whole event just seems so unfocused and misdirected.  Why not get all your protestors on the same page and march on Washington instead? This is going to just be wasted effort in its current state.

October 13, 2011
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The clowns are protesting govt yet they can only get 50 protesters in DC.  So few they debated for 3 hours what to do to shut down DC.  And the solution: push every elevator floor button to slow down people using the elevators.  OMG.  These radicals are just that.  And now with the rain coming the rats have fleed back to the universities and under the bridges.  Half the members are bums and homeless being paid to sit down with offers of free food.  Now thats a great movement.

October 13, 2011
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Only guys like Castro say that they represent 99% of the people.  Democracies are different (thank goodness).

October 13, 2011
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Bothedictatr...Every first world country has some degree of socialism...Our highways, our schools, etc., are all the product of socialism...The term is getting over used to "spin" against much needed regulation for those who "play" the system at the expense of everyone else...It's like the term "commie" being being throw around...If you hate commies... get rid of your big screen TV and throw your cell phone away because you are giving your money to the biggest communist country in the world to make these items...China...That is "Red China" ...We need to think past the "spin" Fox keeps broadcasting all day and realize we are all the 99%

October 13, 2011
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I love that this movement is called UnAmerican and "if you love freedom" you won't get behind it.  These are people who are exercising their freedom of speech.

 

It amazes me why so many people are not just against the Occupy movement but are outright hostile.  Are you people really that happy with what this country has become?  Do you honestly believe that your candidates will do any better that the current administration. (If so, I'd like to know how 4 more years of Bush/Chaney will help a market that they destroyed through deregulation and unneeded wars...come on...I'm all ears!!!).

 

We have a very corrupt political system that caters to big money corporations.  I can't really fault politicians because our electoral process makes it impossible to become a viable candidate unless you have millions of dollars to get you there.  Unfortunately as a consequence we are no longer a free society because our vote really meany very little when corporations can buy and sell our candidates to further their own needs.

 

We need a drastic change in our electoral process.  Limit campaign contributions, shorten the election campaign lengths and implement term limits.  The Tea Party loves to tell us what the Founding Fathers intended our country to be.  Well, I say the Founding Fathers did not intend political offices to be career positions.  They looked at it as a service to your country, then you returned to your original business.  If we change the electoral process and implement term limits, you'll see a dramatic change in the way our country is run.  Gov for the people, not for their Corporate Overlords.

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

This is a SOCIALIST Democrat Political movement only.

DONT BE FOOLED BY IT.

 

October 13, 2011
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"Out of the 75 responses to our survey"...

 

Are you freaking kidding me?  CNN has really sank so low to put up links to just about anything now days.

October 13, 2011
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Dave3000 - AMEN TO THAT!!!!

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPIERS = .01 PERCENT.  This is reality

 

This is a SOCIALIST Democrat Political movement only.

 

DONT BE FOOLED BY IT.

October 13, 2011
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75 survey responses is not a statistically significant sample size. It is not even close. LAME reporting. I expect that CNN did not get more responses because the protesters do not like the media.

October 13, 2011
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A lot of talk from both sides. More arguments. Lots of idea's. Great hostile talk. That's what they want. More talk less action. No one fears this movement. Why should they. The 'list' of demands is silly. Rally around this one demand. If the whole country not just the protestors rally around one demand, what do you think the effect would be? Here's that one powerful complete demand:  DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

What are you gonna do with this? Ignore it? Act on it? Pass it around to friends so it spreads? The time is now not tomorrow. It's up to us in America. Forget your political party/views. Nobody ever won with a 'list' . One demand. Rally around it. They can't get around this one. Think about it...

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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.01 PERCENT = BLOOD SUCKERS

October 13, 2011
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Since the mid 1960's we have spent over $16 Trillion on income transfer programs like food stamps (and the other 14 food giveaway programs), subsidized housing, Medicaid and about 50 other programs.  Now we are $14 Trillion in debt.  Maybe congress can't see the connection here but I can see it and so can a lot of other taxpayers. 

I am not talking about Social Security and Medicare which are paid for separately, I am talking about the giveaway programs where people get money and costly services they did not earn.  Somebody else earned it or we had to borrow it from China. And no - I am not wealthy, just sick and tired of paying other people's bills while the poor folks keep crying "woe is me" and their "benefits" just keep growing and getting passed from generation to generation.

 

October 13, 2011
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I find it very amusing how the right wing extremists, who drool over FoxNews and the rest of the right wing rant media, feel the need to position themselves in opposition to these protesters.  The right wing yells "government isn't working".  The protesters yell "government isn't working".  The right wing yells "those protesters are crazy!"  It's like a Pavlovian response for the right wing extremists to immediately object to anything their big corporation manipulators tell them to object to.

October 13, 2011
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.01 PERCENT = BLOOD SUCKERS

October 13, 2011
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.01 PERCENT = BLOOD SUCKERS

October 13, 2011
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.01 PERCENT = BLOOD SUCKERS

October 13, 2011
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.01 PERCENT = BLOOD SUCKERS

October 13, 2011
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Rally around ONE demand:

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

(you can claim you came up with this)

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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Yes, many Americans are saying the same thing about one of our nation's biggest problems. Namely, that our political system has been corrupted by money.

 

Those that can afford to make large contributions to political campaigns have gained too much influence over our politicians. In the process, we're losing our democracy.

 

For example, did you know that in order to raise 1 billion dollars, one must raise an average of $685,000 per day, every single day for 4 years? Put another way, that means raising $28,500 every hour on a 24×7 basis for 4 years. And this is the new norm for American presidential campaigns. Regardless of your party affiliation, I think one can agree that this is bad news for democracy.

 

This is not a partisan issue. It's a patriotic issue.

 

Running for any national office should not result in representatives indebted to their deep pocket donors. Yet this is the American political reality today regardless of party.

 

The recent decision by the Supreme Court (Citizens United v. FEC), which allows special interests (corporations, unions, etc.) to make unlimited, anonymous political contributions, looks like another nail in democracy's coffin to many.

 

There is new hope in the growing recognition of this problem and in the rise of peaceful protests against it. Since our politicians are not going to fix this problem on their own, the hope is for a peaceful mass uprising of the American people to force the system to change.

 

The most difficult changes have always started from the ground up in this country, and this grass roots movement is no different.

 

The corruption that money brings to politics is a simple, non partisan issue. With the right approach, it can be something that unites Americans to bring about positive change. Let’s try to find common ground and try to move forward as a country.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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msnlive:

 

While I understand the point you're trying to make and in some ways agree with it, think about what you're saying. That's not how humans work. No one born here is going to look at a poor town in Russia and say "Wow, I'm spoiled. I'm suddenly going to ignore my unhappiness with the way this country is being run because they have it so bad in this small town in Russia." Yes, we have everything in abundance. Yes, we have access to education, doctors, electricity, etc. That does not mean we're going to be happy about the way our country is run. Our government is not looking out for the best interest of its citizens and that's a problem. No one is going to turn a blind eye on a corrupt government just because someone somewhere else has it worse. We have the right to demand to be treated better by our own government. People that come from third world countries that have experienced much worse are very content in Amerca. Well that's because people like these protestors and civil rights activists have been doing this for years. Because of them, all races and sexes are considered equal by law. The only obstacle that we have left to rid our society of (although we will never be completely rid of it just like racism and chauvinism) is the almighty dollar and it's power over our decisions. So while some would say we're spoiled, I don't believe this. We worked for what we have, our ancestors worked for everything that we have now and I don't think any of them would say it was an easy fight.

October 13, 2011
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If they are upset about government corruption why are they on Wall Street? And don't believe they have made the connection that wall street runs the government. 99% of the 99% don't even know what is going in the world, they just aren't happy and need to be with other people looking to blame everyone else.

October 13, 2011
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If they are protesting government corruption why are they not in Albany, instead of NYC?

October 13, 2011
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Smeagel4T, YES, both sides say the Federal Government has outshouted it's bounds.   Only the protestors "trust" the government to do even more. 

Hint: Government is not the solution.  These people need to go home and BE the solution.  That' show things change for the better.

October 13, 2011
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I'd like to know where this 99% figure came from.  47% of American's pay no taxes.  So to me the sign carrying rabble rousers are the %47 percent vs the 53% paying for them to lounge around Wall street griping all day.

October 13, 2011
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"It would be helpful to learn from the path the Tea Party carved instead of attempting to reinvent the same wheel."

 

What, get billionaires to bus you around and Fox News to hype you? I guess that's what qualifies as credible to the hate America crowd.

October 13, 2011
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It's a great idea, but it's not getting anything done. Sitting around griping about how bad things are isn't going to change things.

 

They need to organize. They need a leader - someone that can speak for the organization without coming across as political on either side. They need a purpose - not just "we're mad", which is all they have now, but a concrete statement of what they stand for. They need goals - specific, defined goals. Not just "fix it", which is about what their goals amount to now. They need a plan - how are they going to accomplish those goals.

 

If it were me, I would do the following:

 

Goals:

Remove corporate influence from government.

Remove corporate money from government.

Remove special interests/PAC's.

Make economic recovery and job growth priority #1.

Increase government oversight and protection against corporate greed to prevent another 2008 collapse.

Break the stranglehold the Republicans and Democrats have over government.

 

Methods:

Anyone who claims membership in the organization will, with no exception:

Immediately renounce any previous party membership. We cannot let the current roadblocks to progress continue, and if we want to stop it, then we have to be the ones to start the change.

Refuse to support any candidate taking money from any organization, or ideally anyone at all. This is a job interview, not a popularity contest, and all the posters, buttons, fliers, signs, commercials, etc. do nothing except distract voters from the issues. With the tools available these days, it should be easy to get your message out to the people without spending millions of dollars. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. - all simple ways to communicate with large amounts of people at once.

Refuse to support any candidate who does not break from existing party membership.

Refuse to support any candidate who does not put the goals of the movement first.

 

Most likely, they will need to find candidates within their own movement. Ideally what we need is a government majority in every level of government that is dedicated to enacting laws designed to prevent corporate influence on government, prevent the rampant corporate greed that has nearly destroyed our economy, and focus on getting the economy moving again. We need people who will focus on a non-partisan agenda, and will work openly and cooperatively with the other members of government to achieve that goal.

October 13, 2011
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I am sure that most people agree with me on the stupidity of those posters explaining college debt and how sad it is that the students have to pay it back.  I have around $60,000 in college debt.  It is not because there is something wrong with the system or the government.  It is because I was a naive 18 year old that decided to go to a private college and not worry about the cost until after I graduated. 

 

I will admit, however, that credit card debt relief commercials get to me.  It bothers me that there are programs for people who are irresponsibly making purchases with credit cards while I am stuck with all of this debt from trying to make myself more useful to society.

 

My point:  My debt is my responsibility.  No one else is to blame.

October 13, 2011
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Maybe what they are protesting is the practice of political candidates hosting #38,000.00 a plate campaign fund dinners that, even if the "average voter" was invited, they couldn't afford.

 

I, for one, would like to taste a $38,000.00 steak.

October 13, 2011
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This is Woodstock but love is replaced with hate.

October 13, 2011
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Rally around one demand and we win. Period. Nothing else matters.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

 

-paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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These protestors would be the ones who left England to start over in America in colonial times. Then you have the critical English war machine hating on them. Wake up the founding American spirit!

October 13, 2011
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I saw a sign that said "Corporations are not people". Hmm, that isn't a very profound statement. I work for a corporation and the everyone that works for it are people, not wealthy people, just regular people trying to make a living and take care of our families. Could we get someone to make the signs for these people that actually make sense.

October 13, 2011
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justincase04 – Good post, but the problem is our democracy has degenerated from one citizen, one vote, to one dollar, one vote. Thanks to some very bad Supreme Court decisions, the worst being Citizens United, corporations have the full legal rights of a living person. They should not have those rights, and our democracy has been corrupted and hijacked by that. Unions, clubs, and groups of protesters don’t have those legal protections.

Also, nowadays, corporations are made up of many non citizens, and they have no loyalty or allegiance to the Constitution, only to their shareholders.

 

October 13, 2011
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drhmichican...The Republicans have had control far longer then 10 months...and have used the filibuster when they didn't...They just voted against the "Jobs Bill" and are once again employing the filibuster to keep it from happening. The bill was was designed to give small business a tax break...80% of Americans are employed by companies that fall into the small business category...So tell me how the Republican are helping in this crisis?...And no I can't hire people because the economy is so bad people are not spending...Because all the money for jobs is going out of the country to exploit labor and make bigger profits for the top 1%...Please turn off Fox and be more objective.

October 13, 2011
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m1k388 "Wake up the founding American spirit!"

 

Yes, leave and get to work.  Make a better place for yourself by hard work and self reliance.

 

October 13, 2011
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If almost 50% of them are mainly against government corruption, why are they on Wall St. and not on front lawn of the White House trying to occupy it?  Therein lies the problem...Washington.

October 13, 2011
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Lots of GRAND idea's that stand no chance of going anywhere. Great idea's tried and failed. Grandstanding on behalf of political party. They win. Here's how they lose. Get behind ONE demand. Simple. Easy. Powerful. Complete.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

(there's a great chance this won't take off. Why? Because we don't have the guts for real change. We talk a great game and they know it).

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 13, 2011
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The best way to eliminate government corruption is to take away their ability to spend tax dollars on anything other than military, police or court processing. Give it back to those that earned it and allow then to decide what to do with it. It's called freedom!

October 13, 2011
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CherrieJane - Good post, but over the last few decades, the cost of college has skyrocketed, both at public and private institutions. The costs have escalated far beyond the rate of inflation and even far beyond rising medical costs. That is why you, and so many others, have so much debt. Not long ago college at CA public universities was free. This is making it much, much harder for young Americans to achieve the American dream, to find a place in the middle class, to own their homes.

October 13, 2011
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Two words; Useful IDIOTS!

October 13, 2011
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My biggest gripe would be how corporations are allowed to be like people. I don't think that should be and it's screwing with our political system like you wouldn't believe.

 

I think every campaign donation should be accountable and tracked so people know exactly who gets what from who. None of these PACs, Super PACs, or 401 whatever to hide who really is making donations to the political process.

October 13, 2011
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We love a complex solution to an easy problem. We love grand idea's. The grander the idea the more likely debate. And we love debates. In fact they hope we keep debating. The more we debate the sillier we become. Silly is what we have become. We can't rally behind one idea. That would be to easy. But for those of you that see through our mistakes, I give you an idea. ...

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 13, 2011
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paparazzinc...

 

Just Congress?  What about the President and the Senate?

October 13, 2011
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For the last 20 to 30 years the middle / working classes in this country have been dying a death of 1000 cuts caused mainly by legislation that was bought by corporations and banks to allow them to pull the wealth from the middle and working class to be used for investment by them in other parts of the world. You may know this as "Trickle down Economics". the thing that was never explained and still is not being explained to the people in this country, is that in order to create a working class around the world quickly that can afford to buy products and barrow money from these now multinational corporations and Banks, It was necessary to pull that wealth from the people of the United States. There are many different reasons way people are joining the protests that are going on. Many of the reasons have little to do with the things that have happened in the last three years, but the events of the last three years I think are serving as the straw that will break the Camel’s back. I, like many of the people supporting this movement am currently employed and despite the fact that I keep my skill level up to date and I am one of the best in this country in my chosen field my salary has still slid back words over the past ten years. Will the companies I work for flood the market with cheap, poorly educated, poorly trained, unneeded, low paid H1B visa holders from India, China, and Pakistan. I know this because I end up working nights and weekends training, supporting, and correcting the mistakes made by these Idiots. I could just as easily be training, mentoring and supporting better educated harder working people that are already in this country of all races and creeds, Corporations need to stop lying! There is no lack of well educated and skilled workers in this country. It’s time to send the H1Bs visa holders home and but Americans students and skilled works back to work at a fair living wage, they can afford it!!!!

October 13, 2011
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STOP paying the IRS, they are a "constitutionally illegal" PRIVATE owned collection agency for the federal reserve ...Chaired by ONE private citizen that chair's both the International Monetary Fund and the World bank, making loans (with your money) to 3rd world nations and influencing the world debt. Oh' you Don't believe me... pick up any IRS letter and you'll see it's stamped or bulk rated. The clue is: ALL Government agencies do not pay for mail, its FREE! stop working for the capitalist, get on the street and tell them you are not doing it anymore, the GAME IS UP! Wake up the IRS bill was NEVER ratified by any Congress.
October 13, 2011
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Lets talk some more... Get idea's going... Run to our corners that make us feel safe... let's brainstorm more... gather up a list of demands... add to it... refine it... debate more idea's... get more people involved... let's protest everything... let's come up with solutions... add more idea's.... grow the list more... solicit opinions... debate some... Let's sit back and watch ourselves lose... shall we?

 

Or maybe we should come up with one idea/demand. Something easy we can all rally behind. Something powerful. Something they can't ignore or get around...

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

Which one do you prefer?

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 13, 2011
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Since 90% of us are working, maybe the 99% quote is a bit misleading? I think what we have is 1% of the 10% unemployed with nothing left to do but sit on their behinds and beg for handouts. Get a job!

October 13, 2011
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Be very careful about

dismissing Occupy Wall Street

protestors for not having a

clearly defined list of grievances.

 

This is what happens when there

is a popular uprising in countries.

Occupy Wall Street is beginning to look

very much like that.

October 13, 2011
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Dont be FOOLED by these Socialists.  Obama put in more than 600 new regulations on business.... he's strangling business on PURPOSE... to bring on the CRAZY SOCIALIST UPHEAVAL.... and anger you.  This is all by DESIGN... your Freedoms are being destroyed... your way of life is being destroyed.   If you love your children REJECT this Administration and this OCCUPY drama.

October 13, 2011
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bchbum46...Great Post! Something that often is not spoken about, but a real issue...By the way...I have a great job too and support the Protesters...Can't understand why people would be against so many young people trying to find the opportunities many of us have had...Not to sound like sugar...But those are our kids and our future.

October 13, 2011
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All of these reasons to protest are fine but really wouldn't a better way to say what this is all about be:

 

We are tired of the rapid demise of the middle class and all of these are contributing factors.  The protesters are on Wall Street because it and the Banks are the most viible of the factors  contributing to Americans having a lower standard of living.

October 13, 2011
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The "rich" are the over $250k today... tomorrow it will be the over 100K..... next month it will be the over 50K... eventually it will be YOU.  These SOCIALISTS ORCHESTRATING the OCCUPY mvmnt are here to take EVERYONE down.  DONT BE THEIR TODAY'S USEFUL IDIOT.

October 13, 2011
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Please stop. Get behind ONE demand. How hard is this? Why are you people making it so difficult. Wall st is not going anywhere. Capitalism is not leaving any time soon. Why fight it? Why argue about this and that. Blame him or her blame them blame it. Why not make it easy and to the point. The root of the problem is congress and all those who are members. We are not represented by those we elect. It really is that simple. Start over. All new members freshly elected.. Get behind ONE demand. If you don't like mine come up with ONE demand yourself. But one demand. Simple. Powerful. Easy. Don't expand it to include more. Just one easy demand. This could work.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.              (washington did)

 

read more on my blog or don't, just get behind one demand.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

 

 

 

October 13, 2011
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I can't believe what I'm reading so many ill informed people speaking party rhetoric like it was spewed from a political manifesto just look at what's going on in the world and then take a step back and look at the US. War that just puts money into big business, The rights of the citizens being slowly undermined for the sake of security(LOL), The Fbi and Cia arming the Mexican drug cartels to justify money diverted to border patrol. All these things to keep you in a state of dismay so they can take it all and you'll gladly let them. Good Old USA, we let the world banking system devalue are dollar. Get rid of Federal Reserve(no more federal then federal express). Please Wake up America.     

October 13, 2011
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There is BIG MONEY going into the OCCUPY drama... by Soros, and other SOCIALIST groups.  THEY ARE PAYING THESE PPL TO HANG OUT AND BRAINWASH YOU.

They are NOT 99 percent... they are .001 PERCENT.  This is reality.

October 13, 2011
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Filibustering should not be allowed. It was used to Block to jobs plan and prevented the Senate from voting on it.  Obviously the Republicans were afraid it would pass.

This is what feeds our anger, thier ability to DO  NOTHING.

October 13, 2011
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All of these SOCIALIST COMMANDORS on here giving you false facts.... DONT BE FOOLED.   This occupy is .001 percent.  This is a CREATED CRISIS once again by the B.O. Administration.... why do you think the DEMS are all supporting it?  Your Freedoms are hanging in the balance.  BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE FOR YOUR CHILDRENS SAKE.

October 13, 2011
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I knew it would get 'complicated'. Let me define CONGRESS. Congress includes the senate and house of representatives. Congress is a generic term that includes both houses of congress. Members is both congressmen and senators. Resign is to leave a position or job. We use the word congress instead of house of representatives and the senate....(to make it simple)

 

I know I know this is complicated.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

Sometimes easy. Sometimes simple. But always powerful.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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This is so much more American than the Tea Party and their Koch brother masters.

Unlike the Tea Party, this movement is growing.

October 13, 2011
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If you really want to protest someone about the state of the Country... go to the HEAD OF THE SNAKE HISELF and protest the White House and Obama.  HE is responsible to the high unemployment.. high debt ... scandals (FAST & FURIOUS, SOLYNDRA, etc)... he is the one to protest against!!!

October 13, 2011
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The "rich" are the over $250k today... tomorrow it will be the over 100K..... next month it will be the over 50K... eventually it will be YOU.  These SOCIALISTS ORCHESTRATING the OCCUPY mvmnt are here to take EVERYONE down.  DONT BE THEIR TODAY'S USEFUL IDIOT.

October 13, 2011
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There is BIG MONEY going into the OCCUPY drama... by Soros, and other SOCIALIST groups.  THEY ARE PAYING MANY OF THESE PPL TO HANG OUT.

 

They are NOT 99 percent... they are .001 PERCENT.  This is reality.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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Reign of Terror.

 

That is all.

October 13, 2011
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Bothedictatr...Please stop with the Socialist rant...Once again...Every modern country employs socialism to some extent...Our highway system, schools, etc., are all examples

of socialism...Turn off Fox and be more objective...They use one word or one sentence spin to appeal to people who

resent paying taxes, are bigots, bible-thumpers, etc...Your better then that...aren't you?

October 13, 2011
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I want know why the main stream media isn't cover this! I spent all day yesterday watching the news and nothing was mentioned not even a sound bite, All that was covered was the Micheal Jackson trial, Republican round table debate, Iran Terrorist Plot (which seems to be hog wash distraction, the so called terrorist mastermind was so dumb he said the Chevy is ready as code for an attack give me a break more distraction and fear mongering plz) and celebrity gossip. The only reason I heard about this occupy wall street that when I was on YouTube its was one of the most watched videos occupy wall street and I clicked on it. Why is the American Media trying to keep us blinded? Why on the eve of people getting sick of being raped by corporations and banks they use fear to control the masses?  We Need to demand our media cover the news cover the occupy wall street because this happening in our backyard not in the middle east!

October 13, 2011
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caoimghgin

 

"If you're against the 99% then you're for the 1%. Educate yourself".

 

I am not for 99% or the 1% , so don't put in a category I don't belong.

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR are you insane FAST & FURIOUS was Bush and the government is hide the facts of how bad the ecomony was when bush was in office so they could try and get another republican in office. I'm 40 and an avid history buff look at history the parties have been changing the republicans can't even decide who or how to represent their party the democrats can't decide what shoe to put on first, Big Business owns both of them and has sense the first world war read your history don't just SPEW.  

October 13, 2011
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I love this quote from the American Bankers Association from 1924. it gives real insight to the way that class of people still think today. They get maximum value out of the propaganda pushed out to keep peoples minds off the real and important questions Like Why has our quality of life in the country change over the last 20 year? and Who is really behind those changes? Please read it.

 

"Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through the process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. These truths are well known among our principal men who are now engaged in forming imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. It is thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished."

October 13, 2011
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From the "Chicago International Business Times" and many other news sites:

 

 

Business Insider has obtained a video interview of a seemingly well-informed Chicago protestor who mentions -- almost in passing -- that he gets paid $22 an hour plus overtime to participate in a Chicago offshoot of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests.

 

The man describes his protesting work as a "full time gig" and added that an unnamed benefactor, who is presumably providing the salary, is "getting his money's worth."

October 13, 2011
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These are PAID protesters.  They ARE the .001 percent.

October 13, 2011
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People are attacking each other, I believe that through unity and finding a common ground we can become again the once great nation we was. The problems we are facing such extreme household debt and joblessness is not a matter of liberals vs. Conservative but rather an American Problem which we must tackle as a united people, The banks have been raping the people now for years and with immunity, trillions of dollars given to them but yet they spent all the money on Jets and lavish bonuses in the millions for their executives, we must demand that these men/women be arrested and trialed for criminal corruption and treason this will be the first step in delivering a message to these people for the crimes they have committed. NO more fighting among each other we got evil doers in wall street that need to be tossed in jail!

October 13, 2011
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Occupy Wall Street:

 

You're hearing a cry from the very soul of a nation.

 

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October 13, 2011
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A reader at the conservative blog PowerLine has spotted a Craigslist ad from New York's progressive Working Families Party, which is apparently looking to hire people for $350 to $650 a week to "fight to hold Wall Street accountable." (See a screenshot below.) The "immediate hires" must be "outgoing, articulate, dedicated, determined," and "energetic communicators," the ad says. But "this is not a policy job! Through direct action you will be shaping NY state politics for the next 20 years." Outraged conservatives read this as liberals paying people to attend the Occupy Wall Street protests. Is this proof the Left is secretly bankrolling the movement?

October 13, 2011
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Government corruption? Under Saint Obama? Oh, the humanity....

October 13, 2011
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Dave3000 - good posts and a sane explaination. I really enjoyed reading what you said and agreed with you.

BoTheDictator - America is a hybrid mixture of capitalism and socialism already. Let me ask you an honest question: Did you agree with the bail-out of AIG, BoA, etc...? If you did, that was pure, unadulterated SOCIALISM. As you know, true Capitalism would have let them fail (due to their own devices) and allowed new, well-managed companies to take their place (maybe some people from the OWS crowd would have started companies that would now be prospering and would have become the new AIG, BoA, etc...).  You would argue, I believe, that is was expidient to bail-out the banks to avert a world financial collapse.  Thus, you DO believe in SOCIALISM when it is pragmatic to enact it, right? The bottom line is this: No one is asking for a "free-ride" (and if they are, I do not agree with them) but only a truly level playing field and that overt GREED ceases to be allowed, by policies, to benifit some while crushing the others. Reasonable and honestly gained profit is good - hoarding and ill-gotten wealth through manipulation and oppression is bad.

October 13, 2011
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No one has anyone to blame except those American voters who cast their ballot for the person sitting in the White House and congress.

If you voted for any of those in congress, then look in the mirror when placing blame for what goes on in congress.

If you voted for obama, look in the mirror whne placing blame for the lack of good policies and the bad policies that are stifling this economy.

 

If you voted for the "other guy" then point your fingers at those above.

 

If you didn't vote, then you shouldn't be complaining period.

 

It's not government corruption that's killing this country.  It's voters who continue to buy their elected officials' BS.  If you don't like what they are doing, vote them out the time around.

 

This is the core of this country's system.

October 13, 2011
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The tea party is going down there today to get to the 'bottom' of what the OWS is all about. 

 

I wonder if the TP will use their 2nd amendment rights as they did here in NV.  The men all wore their guns on their hips and intimidation in their eyes.

 

there is no way the the TP is anything like the OWS folks.

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR I'm sure you'll find that person is being payed by an organization trying to discredit the protesters. I've been to down town Philadelphia and there are a wide range of people there from both parties and also from the Tea Party and liberal organizations. I sure your smart enough to take a deeper look at what is going on. I respect your opinions and your distrust of what you see going on just be careful to to discredit the very real complaints people in the street have. the out come of there efforts may benefit you as much as it does them.

October 13, 2011
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Karloff1313....

open your eyes... more than JUST corruption... RECORD UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT THAT WILL LEAD TO AMERICA'S COLLAPSE... record unemployment that are DESTROYING famiies..... ARMING DANGEROUS DRUG CARTELS ACROSS OUR BORDERS THAT ARE KILLING THOUSAND OF MEXICANS AND MANY AMERICANS....  intentionally turning Americans agains Americans with this foolish wealth jealousy......  Pretty pathetic that YOU find this run of the mill and a bore..... you ARE the PROBLEM.

October 13, 2011
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I am part of the 99% and yes I have a job, which is why I am not able to partake in Occupy Wall Street or its off shoots.  I am sick of our government pandering to corporations and their greed.  Corporations (and special interests for that matter) should be taken out of the equation when it comes to electing this nation's leaders.  Our government is supposed to be by the people and for the people; corporations are not people.  While I primarily vote democratic, I am open to all candidates with good ideas.  I think now, more than ever this country needs some strong independent candidates to run for our nation's highest offices.  If the democrats and the republicans cannot get off of their ideological bases, then there needs to be a changing of the guard.

October 13, 2011
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That's what you do lets go bully them to get your point across.

October 13, 2011
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I have a simple idea....

 

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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DOCWHO05..... you are a fool.  FAST & FURIOUS is under HOLDER.   Take a breath... BUSH was last in office 3yrs ago.... You BLAME game on BUSH is getting old and doesnt hold water anymore.  Tip: EDUCATE YOURSELF A BIT.

October 13, 2011
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Bothedictator:

 

Miss the med cart this morning? What a stretch from my short, sarcastic comment. Get a life.

October 13, 2011
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Protesting the bailouts three years after they were granted and most paid back makes little sense to me - the timing just seems inappropriate, so I have a hard time to believe it's the bailouts that have these protesters upset. Also, why are they so upset about the bank bailouts but not the GM bailouts?

 

As for Wall Street impunity, sure that's a legit. grievance, but again, the timing seems inappropriate and somewhat off base, as some of the financial managers of the time have been charged with crimes and others have left and are no longer involved on Wall Street. Those who are left are not the problem with this country. The problem is not that these folks make money and others do not. Wall Street itself is not the problem with this country (sure there are some bad apples, but not everyone involved is bad). This country's problems run so much deeper than Wall Street, making this protest seem sadly out of place, off base and useless. Yes we need change, but those changes need to begin with Congress and our country's two-party political system.

October 13, 2011
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Nobody believes the protestors are paid. Nobody, even you...

 

Here's something so simple...

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

Uncomplicated Easy Powerful Complete.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 13, 2011
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Why does the right need to redefine the movement as something unjust?  We the people have a right to be heard.  Our current system of government does not work.  My congressman just took 95% of his money from out of state .... complaining about out of state interests controlling our politics.  Talk about two faced.

 

I vote but the caucus system takes away my vote.

 

Replublicans and their theories have bankrupted a nation and started a revolution.

October 13, 2011
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you really gotta love the ignorance behind comments like, "The banks have been raping us for years."

 

Really?  I've had accounts in probably 20 or so different banks and credit unions throughout mny adult life and I've never once felt that I've been "raped."

 

I've opened accounts with banks knowing I'd pay a service fee for having less than $1000 deposited, and if they raised the fee and I didn't like it, I closed my account and went somewhere else.

I saw a comment somewhere else that changing accounts hurts your credit score.  Not True.

 

So many people playing the victim card when the real power is with the person looking back at you in the mirror. 

In our country, you have the freedom to take your business somewhere else if you don't like your service. 

No one is forcing you to shop at Walmart, so stop complaining about their low wages.

No one is forcing you to bank with CitiCorp, or use their credit cards.

 

And finally, no one is forcing you to vote for those in government you perceive as corrupt.  If enough people take a stand against a corrupt politician at the next election, they won't have to worry about the bozo again.

 

Empower yourselves and stop acting like you are such a victim.

October 13, 2011
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This all didn't start in 2008 the wheels were set in motion awhile ago, and no I'm not a bush hater I'm an idiot hater. I liked bush in his first term, but then him and his crones start dividing the pie, not unlike the current pres. they all have agendas(and friends to pay it forward to). The system is broken that's all I'm saying.

October 13, 2011
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I have a better idea: Type the words below as often as you can. Then watch to see if it catches on. If it does and the media picks it up you claim credit for it....

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

YOU can get a movement behind one simple easy powerful non-political demand. Now that's powerful.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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many of you feel bad for this corporation...that is because you crazy...it has no feelings...and people are much better

 

 

October 13, 2011
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Right, take a poll and call it a "list of demands." The "occupy" freaks can't articulate a coherent agenda beyond general bumper sticker slogans, so the media try to create one for them.

October 13, 2011
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Your absolutly correct it started with the greed of our legislators and senators along time ago.  Nixon starting the healthcare insurance system "You mean the insurance companies will provide less care for more money" then he made a fortune on insurance company stocks....

The clintons and nafta  hillary on the board of directors of wallmart.  on and on and on..

October 13, 2011
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BOthedictatr.... the traitors are the corporation who are in collusion to bring down this administration dispute the harm to its people...

I work for one of the largest catering companies in the NY/NJ area and I'm in the 1%'s houses, offices, meetings and know there is an effort by Corp America to crush the economy so they can get a Republican in office. To lift all regulations on all industry...

I've seen corp heads with piles of cocaine for their friends at parties, hookers, judges cops and officials snuggling up to the good life via payola, vitamin manufacturers courting Gov to get vitamin regulated by FDA so they could make more profit, 6' safes with $2mil in it skimmed from their business, the Franklin Lakes-Alpine-SaddleRiver area is as corrupt as it gets... I think I need to write a book.... Yes... maybe I will...

 

October 13, 2011
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plarbear94 i think they meant the world banking system, and yes i agree with you just take your money and go somewhere else. The beauty of this country is choices you don't like him choose someone else. Freedom of choice at work!

October 13, 2011
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I bet if these demonstrating folks were drug tested, 3 out of 4 would be positive.

October 13, 2011
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If you're defending the current system, you're either part of the problem or just too dumb to know you're being fleeced. In which case, I have an investment opportunity for you.

October 13, 2011
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I have a friend who was a marine and was security for Reagan, he has told me of clandestine meeting and backdoor deals he has been witness to. So don't tell me vote for someone new when they all do this, it's how they got there.

October 13, 2011
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That's an illuminating poll.  I thought for sure they were all a bunch of socialists.  I agree with being against government corruption.

 

So why don't they demonstrate in Washington DC?

October 13, 2011
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I am not protesting because unlike these people I am WORKING( I know the dirty word) so I may become one of the 1%. What these people want is a free ride, and that isn’t going to happen …At least NO free ride on my back.

October 13, 2011
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Well Doc and Kindly... yes you can just take your business somewhere else or you can take a stand a say NO i'm not going to let a company take advantage of another American and stop any BS instead of running away...

 

and yes Kindly if they tested any of the tea party and gop for brains they will only find 1 in 4....

 

it's not about HIPPIE's... its about a failed society on all sides.... wake the F$%^ up and help fix it....

October 13, 2011
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They are protesting Wall Street because that's where the power is.

 

If you think Congress or the President are the ones with power then you are a fool.

 

Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and the major financial institutions are the ones with power. They drive the markets, they decide how much your groceries cost, what your interest rates are and what taxes you pay. They decide what is illegal and what is not, and they decide whether or not you will have retirement.

 

The only thing preventing them from taking full control is our electoral process, and even that is hardly a bump in the road to them as they can now contribute endless money to any candidate they choose and the majority of people (most are incredibly naive, ignorant and easily manipulated) will follow suit vehemently as if they are the ones in control.

 

The economy is sick. It has a cancer, and that cancer will spread until there is nothing left. That is the nature of human greed, and that is what these protesters are upset about. Real problems that are going to have real and dire effects on everybody on this earth.

 

How somebody can be against these protesters is beyond me. Protesting is natural and we have been in dire need of it for decades. The teabaggers did not "protest", and it was not a "movement". It was continued campaign from '08 (they sprung up immediately after losing the election, as if Obama had even had any time to enact any legislation yet) and were completely funded by major interests and directly sponsored by News Corp. and Fox News.

 

This genuine movement has no leader and its message is diverse but it is simple; there are problems with money, greed and corruption in our government and it is having negative effects on this country and the world. Money is power and Wall Street is out of control.

 

And to all of the people saying that this movement is funded by Soros and liberal institutions; explain how this well-funded, disorganized movement without a leader is also well organized and is being led by progressive interests. You can't, because it's a logical fallacy and you are all grasping at straws. I'd be surprised if anybody making those comments could pass a literacy test; your level of intelligence and reasoning is embarrassing not just to the country you live in but to the human species as a whole.

October 13, 2011
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i agree SOG1969 just commenting on another comment(holy this is getting long and diverse)

October 13, 2011
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After listening to these folks, its pretty clear why they can't find jobs.

October 13, 2011
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mrooo ..... Their protesting Wall Street because their getting paid to do so... and free food.

Now if this was a SERIOUS movement with SERIOUS ppl, they'd be right there at the WHITE HOUSE protesting the HEAD OF THE SNAKE.... OBAMA.  This my friend, is astro-turf ginned up by the SOCIALIST PARTY to take down DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, AND CAPITALISM.  Nothing more....

October 13, 2011
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Docwho05.... you can say whatever you want about a supposed "friend" who worked for the Reagan adm... doesnt mean its true.  I've seen more lies from the current Dems and Obama than ever in my whole life.  Maybe your just ONE OF THEM.

October 13, 2011
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THIS COUNTRY IS GREAT TO COME IN MAKE MONEY AND GET OUT PERIOD!!! 

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR..

 

Are you insane or just off your meds?

October 13, 2011
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PLARBEAR94 I'm not the person that made the comment about being raped by the banks, But I think you agree that I got some adjective by a few backs during a ten year period from 1996 to 2007.

 

I worked outside of the United States for a major telecom company for 12 years and still travel outside the country from time to time. during the ten year period from 1996 to 2007 Master Card, Visa, and Dinners Club along with my banks B of A and Citibank over charged all international transactions by 1% to 5% depending on the transaction type. there has been many law suits on going both Class Action and Private to get these banks to repay what the took illegally. they have pretty much agreed that the money was taken in an improper manor but for obvious reason will not admit that they broke any laws even though the evidence shows they did. only about 15% of Americans actually had passports during that time and many of them only travel for fun so this didn't get a lot of attention. For people like me who found out about this recently there may be little or nothing that we can do to recover the money stolen from us. in my I spent between 3 and 4 hundred thousand dollars for travel and expenses and for personal use. so they owe me very large sum of money especially if you add interest which is what any good bank would do. I have been looking into this issue for sometime now and I and refiling a law suit of my own. here's the down side the banks have manipulated the laws surrounding this issue and made it very difficult and extremely expensive for individuals to seek justice in this case. so We may not have been raped but there sure was some %$#@ing going on. You can look up some of the details of this case online search for "Currency conversion fee antitrust litigation"

October 13, 2011
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Wonder how NEW YORKERS feel about Bloomberg using their hard earned tax $'s to keep cleaning up after these dirty slobs having s e x, doing & selling drugs, and getting paid to sit around and waste time.

Property tax money New Yorkers... you pay the highest in the country.... now we see why.. because you have a mayor who is running your Nanny State and wasting your money.

October 13, 2011
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mrooo.... TOUCHE buddy... that was right on....

 

Oh...Oh... Oh... while all sides have been obsessed with control for the past few decades... and have been distracted by the long predicted oil shortage (it's gone, at least the cheap stuff)...the real problems have been growing like a Texas wild fire...

Water and Food...  if you thing oil and economic problems are bad now... throw those two into the equation... We as a world had better come together and get over the who is better BS and get it all fixed... Maybe the Mayans were right... Dec 2012

October 13, 2011
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mrooo..... you are part of the .01 percent that are the problem that are enabling Obama to destroy this country.  I think you are the one whose in dire need of meds.

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPY = .01 percent.  This is reality.

 

October 13, 2011
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U mean they hijacked the word and not the idea(TEA PARTY), which is no taxation without representation, but we can't cry that because we have representatives(the house). We need to do what Lincoln did close world banks interest in America and make a new sovereign money system that will cool the jets of the 1%ers, get rid of the credit institutions.Start back at zero, it may hurt for awhile but we would be better off. 

October 13, 2011
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  Dave3000  Don’t listen to fox.  And the Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. I was stating that the Dems has  to bear most of the blame on this one. I tell you to get companies to hire you need to back off the Regs and the talking about raising taxes. What is needed is to back off taxes to companies, suspend  Regs and reset the tax code so it is fair a flat tax would do that. And I say just to get this economy going . once the economy is on firm ground and is strong then go back and look at the Regs and take a look at how they would effect things. And make it so large corporations that do hide money over seas brings it back. By changing the rules that imports play with .like china. They should be slapped  and slapped hard for doing what there doing with there money . But you will not see any body in D.C take a stand against them . because were would they get the money they want to spend. I say. Get rid of the government education department  let the states do that. EPA  needs to be gone the states can do that to. The energy dept needs to go .the States can devolip there of resources. That in it self would cut a lot of fat from the government and start to get the government back on track with it only obligation protecting the borders. And just so you know I am a independent. And the reason I do not like what I see is because I saw it with the hippy movement in the 60`s and early 70`s .Did not much like getting spit on when I can home from Nam. And having the leaders of your government back a no item on wall street. Just a way to try to under mind the tea party .they need some new idea men

October 13, 2011
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OCCUPY is Orchestrated by the Socialist Party.  You are being FOOLED into believing this is MAINSTREAM.  Anything but.

OCCUPY = .01 percent.  This is reality.

October 13, 2011
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BO....... your really Charlie Shean aren't you.....

October 13, 2011
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You are being used as useful idiots... sad for the Country you cant see that.  You have your noses so deeply ground into left wing rhetoric and websites that your oblivious to reality.  Get out more.

October 13, 2011
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SUAD10: That is one of the problems.  WE, the PEOPLE, LOVE our country.  We were born in it - we do not want to "come in, make money, and get out".  That is part of the problem; People use this country to get wealthy but do not try and take care of the country that allowed them to make their wealth (those who come into it from other countries). America is not a prostitute designed just to give you pleasure (money) and then you walk away after you have taken from her what you want! If you make your money here, take care of the country that gave you that oppportunity.

October 13, 2011
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So they admit that the government is corrupt, and so their solution is to expand the government and grant it even more power over our lives.

October 13, 2011
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Everyone keeps comparing this to the Tea-party.  Highlighting the "government corruption".  Come on, its 75 people that took an on-line survey.  This isn't about government corruption, its about corporate greed. Period.

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR..

 

Typical paid republican troll shill. Attack the messenger. No substance, just outlandish tinfoil conspiracies and a bunch of finger pointing.

 

This has nothing to do with Obama, Obama cannot do a damn thing in regards to this crisis. This crisis was created by 30+ years of deregulation, corporate cronyism and democratic laziness on the part of the people. WE let this get out of control and now WE are going to fix it. Obama, Bush, Clinton, the House, the Senate - right now they have control over the population while Wall Street has control over them and us at the same time.

 

It's high-time the people stood up and demanded action over inaction, demanded oversight and justice for what Wall Street has done and continues to do on a daily basis. They don't care if their actions cause you to live, or die, to prosper or to struggle, to starve or to feast, they are in it to make money and it starts and ends there.

 

This is not about politics. This is not about parties. This is not about Obama and your insecure, projected, deluded mental conspiracies that you formulate from talking points from Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. Here's a pro tip: people like them are simply entertainers. They enrage you to make money, and you let them.

 

You'd campaign against Obama to the end of the world while doing nothing of substance while deriding those around you trying to help stop the bleeding and make things better for all.

 

You are disgusting (and probably just an internet troll, but the point stands nonetheless).

October 13, 2011
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Going to Wall Street to protest government corruption makes perfect sense!

October 13, 2011
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I know they want to deregulate everything so profits can soar, but does anybody remember the 70's all the laws and regulations went into affect after big corp. polluted and raped the land and air in this country and canada had to complain about pollution before we did anything. I remember acid rain in the 70's in Upstate NY. Oh how about the "LOVE CANAL" children that played within feet of toxic chemicals being dumped. This is what happens when business is not held in check.There's no morality on capitalism. 

October 13, 2011
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The article says that this poll is based on 75 responses. Talk about a absurdly small sample! No one in their right mind would assume they represent the bulk of the people in the demonstrations. 

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR Do you work for FOX NEWS? Are your really Bill O'Reilly or are you Glen Beck? I can see your very angry and a little bit Crazy if your not really one of the two Guys I mentioned Then you should stop watching Fox News and get out into the real world so you can see whats really going on and maybe you be able to direct your anger in the right direction. just a thought. FYI anger management worked for me I no longer want to kill anyone!

October 13, 2011
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to the 47% of Americans who pay no federal income taxes, on behalf of the 53% who do, I extend an open invitation to join us.  you will be most welcome in our group!  really, I mean it.  please join us.

October 13, 2011
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SOG,

I've been hearing and reading about the "dangers" of vitamins and the elderly. It actually occurred to me that this was another manipulation by big pharma. Mass marketing a pretext to regulate multi-vitamins...Wow! As if our healthcare bills aren't already high enough. It reminded me of all those flu-shots they keep mass marketing for epidemics that never happen.

October 13, 2011
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Rondec - Go take a statistics class, please.

 

milesinnc - You think poor people like to be poor? The hell kind of reasoning is that?

 

Here's an open invitation to those against the protesters and people on the "right" in general (conservatism has long lost its meaning, the current GOP are theocratic traditionalists and plutocrats (even if in name only), not conservatives). Anyways, this is going to sound crazy, but try this..

 

Ready? Okay, I want you to go meet a poor person, and imagine you are in their shoes. CRAZY HUH!? It's called empathy, and its a vital human characteristic, one that differentiates us from animals, and one that Republicans are severely lacking, if not lacking entirely.

October 13, 2011
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Having been observing, interviewing, and documenting OWS for the past week as a filmmaker, I can honestly say that ignorance is speaking when people define this group as "democrats, or hippies". There are republicans, celebrities, and successful people protesting as well.

 

It's simply cold hearted, if you have a job, to be against those that are having a hard time finding one. Shame on you if you feel that way.  Jobs are hard to come by in America right now. If you have a job, and are having great success then you should be reaching out to those in need instead of selfishly bullying and posting "sucks for you" remarks as you hide behind your computer. Instead, you should be proud of the courage these people have to speak up in a public setting. If you aren't in the 1% bracket, they are actually fighting for your rights.

 

There are also a lot of wealthy individuals, entrepreneurs, etc... behind this movement and in the streets alongside those less fortunate. Hats off to the successful people who have the courage to stand beside them because I've witnessed first hand that there are many success stories that worked their way up from the bottom, without the silver spoon in their mouth, doing just that.

 

If you have a job, and are very well off, then fantastic for you.... But, it is unAmerican, in my opinion, to be against those that are voicing out against government corruption. This is no doubt the greatest country in the world, but if you can't see with your own eyes that TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FELLOW AMERICANS have reached the breaking point, then something is ultimately wrong with you. There is something fishy going on between congress and the money makers, and that writing has been on the wall for a long time.

 

You need to visit OCW and talk with people. Listen to peoples stories. Learn what they have faced and are facing. Maybe they have children to feed and have been struck by illness without insurance because they lost their job. Maybe they have done their due diligence to find a job and have worked incredibly hard at it.

 

This is all bizarre to me because I am self employed and am very successful. I can't for the life of me believe that people with success are chiming in with negative comments just because they are LUCKY.

 

I am an ex-democrat turned independent simply because I don't agree with either party. They both have gone too far and frankly don't use common sense. I haven't joined in the protest personally, but have simply been documenting as a historian. But, I must say, when I read the ignorant statements that are utterly incorrect from people on the far right it is making me want to put down the camera, and pick up a sign.

October 13, 2011
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Congress has crafted laws that protect business interests at the great expense of the private person .... these rules and laws are unfair and must be made illegal (changed) in a democratic society.

October 13, 2011
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I met a poor person. They were living on food stamps and unemployment benefits.  They refused to lift a finger to better their lot in life, exhibiting a "Woe is me" attitude to an extent rarely seen from a thinking person. They wanted no assistance, help, training, advice or support to change.  They wanted more hand outs.

October 13, 2011
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BOTHEDICTATR,

 

You're copying and pasting from Glenn Beck editorials aren't you?

It's OK. I know how you feel.  Many people find it much easier and very satisfying to have someone else do their thinking for them in nice, neat sound bite snippets. 

October 13, 2011
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Fair Trade Deal:

Food prices are skyrocketing here in the United States (( the main reason is Feed Corn , Soybeans, and Alfalfa )) these commodities are vital to everything that is groceries we Americans buy today, Wall Street hedge funds they are going to sell these vital feed commodities to other countries, and drive United States food prices Sky-High. 

 

American produce farmers are slowly dying because the price of feed is way too high (( American produce farmers should get their animal feed first, )) to feed Cattle, Hogs, Chickens, and for Dairy products and for Cereals of all kinds, To keep food prices down here in the United States.

 

What is left over use it for methanol and ethanol for gasoline additives. And then sell leftovers to other countries.

I guarantee you other countries in (( this fair trade deal )) will be taking care of their country first.

 

Stop Wall Street fat cat hedge funds Please get this news out, Copy and Paste now !

 

October 13, 2011
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Republicans believe if you can't make it then you don't deserve to make it. If your starving then get a job (like jobs are just falling out of the sky)or you can't work ask someone to help you(just not them).

October 13, 2011
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@ Ander314  I don't think most people fall into the "more hand outs"  Most people just want what they have worked hard for.  And working 100 hours a week for food is not fair to anyone.............

October 13, 2011
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mrooo

Well well well nice speech. You can not sit there and tell me the Obama policy has help any bit sure the stimulus did create jobs government jobs, union jobs and  construction  jobs. But when the money ran out buy buy job. The focus on wall street is just another tactic in the political game of he did not me crap. That we have heard time and time again. It is not about more jobs it is about tax the rich and give to the poor. Why because 10 % of  the people in this country have been on the government payroll for decades. It is getting more and more of take that guys money and give it to that guy so he will not fell that he has got nothing. I do not begrudge the people in wall street to make money yes the ones that do take advantage of others should be castrated. There is never a good reason to `cheat lie and steal from any one there is plant of opportunity in this country to  make something of your self but to attack a company  for making money . or for that matter our system of economics is just nuts. What would you replace it with  seeing that capitalism is what many this country great  and that means the people who belive in it . So if you want something for nothing go to country that does that for you. It will not happen here. and YES IT IS POLITICAL EVERY LAST ACTION GOING ON IN WALL STREET RIGHT NOW  IT STARTED LAST YEAR WHEN OUR PRESIDENT STARTED THE ATTACH ON WALL STREET AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE JETS AND MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. AND WHAT YOU SEE ON WALL STREET  DOES NOT REPRESENT ME .I KNOW WERE THE PROBLEM  IS  D.C . ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON WALL STREET OR ANY OTHER OCCUPY IS SUMMED UP IN THIS STUDENTS WHO DON’T WHAT TO PAY FOR THERE EDUCATION LIKE OTHERS BEFORE ,UNIONS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE THE BECOMING NONEXISTENT, AND THE ACORN ,MEDIA MATERS AND ALL THE REST. And you are going to have to show me I am wrong with truth and not left wing radical crap that I have heard for the past 2+ years

October 13, 2011
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NEWONE i agree do you remember the 80's and they were paying farmers not to plant crops(to raise food prices)

and we still supply the world with almost all of are grown food.We import most of are food from other countries,just to fuel the global market.South America exports most of it to us. Take a look at where your food was produced you'll be shocked.

October 13, 2011
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Ander314 - I call BS. It's the same story I've heard my whole life from people who rail against welfare. "I saw them at the grocery store buying twinkies and potato chips, with my money, how dare they!" Or, "A woman with no job and two kids with a new car OMG welfare state!"

 

The truth of the matter is there will always be free loaders. How would you handle free loaders in this country? Put them in prison? That will cost even more. Retract the welfare and incentives? Then they will be on the street - not stimulating the economy, starving and dying in the gutter. It's a HUMAN policy; that is there will always be waste, freeloaders and inefficiencies. It's something we accept as a nation because we consider ourselves decent and better than the rest of the world, where even those who have lost hope can at least survive to regain that hope. In no way does anybody who understand the position support freeloading, it's despicable, but it's not exactly a black and white situation, and your anecdote on the topic is no more than that and is (if even true) not representative of the mainstream in the least.

 

The majority of people that receive "hand-outs" get them when things are down, often due to no fault of their own. They want to have a good job, a nice house and a fast car. Who doesn't? Sometimes, given how and where you were raised, your race, sex, physical appearance and god-given intelligence (or lack of) play a bigger role than your drive and passion ever could, essentially trapping you in the bottom tiers of our society. What to do with these people? Deride them even more for being unlucky, poor and on the short end of the stick? Very compassionate and American of you.

 

Typical "I got mine, screw you" and "Those less fortunate than me deserve it" plus some "This one time, so all the time" hyperbole GOP nonsense.

October 13, 2011
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@ mrooo - do you consider a familiy of four with $50,000 in income poor?

 

from the Associated Press, April 7, 2010:

 

"In recent years, credits for low- and middle-income families have grown so much that a family of four making as much as $50,000 will owe no federal income tax for 2009, as long as there are two children younger than 17, according to a separate analysis by the consulting firm Deloitte Tax."

 

fyi - there has been no change in the tax code since 2009 that would change this fact.

October 13, 2011
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Ander314: People are people whether they are poor, middle-class or Rich; some are good, some are bad. Many of the people who are currently unemployed would like a job, I assure you.  During the "bubble" build-up days, most of these people were working and want to work again. Are there people who do not want to better themselves? Yes. But for every person like that, there are probably 100 that would like a true joband be gainfully employed.

October 13, 2011
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The Rockefeller's and all the other old money still around their grandfathers caused the great depression just to prove they could, that's what capitalism is today.Power and the ability to wield it. Capitalism with moral restrictions!!!!!

October 13, 2011
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drhmichigan - First, hit the damn return key. Just skimming what you wrote was painful.

 

Second - Unless you've been there and talked to these people please stop painting them with the broad brush you've most likely picked up from Fox News and the rest of the media. Truth is the reasons they are there are so diverse you could talk to every one of them and not have a clue - because most of them are upset at simple corruption in government, the driving factors being so complex that nobody but those with extremely intricate insider knowledge could articulate.

 

Third - Unions, ACORN, Media Matters, you are blinded by partisan hackery. The problem is government AND wall street. Republicans are arguably more in bed with Corporations than Democrats, but then again that perception changes depending on who is in office, doesn't it? When it comes to social and moral legislation it is safe to say that people can wisely pick a party that suits there needs and pain the opposite party as they see fit. When it comes to corruption and corporate cronyism, both parties are completely complicit and part of the problem.

 

After Bush started wars to make money, and the very VP himself, Mr. Cheney, was the freaking OWNER of Haliburton which won countless government contracts I don't even want to hear anything about Obama because nothing he has done comes even close to that one single instance of absurd criminal cronyism. They started a WAR to make money. FFS, the problem is not Obama. It's all of us! We are supposed to make the rules and be the driving factor behind progress and prosperity. Not the corporations and special interests, research councils and lobbyists. How hard is this to see?

October 13, 2011
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NYCPJ

 

Good stuff! I believe success comes from many places, I know from my own expeirense that it took hard work and dedication on my part, but a also know that being in the right place at the right time and for the lack of a better work "Luck" had as much to do with my success as anything I myself did. we who are fortunate enough to have been able to work our way out of poverty must always be respectful of the ones still working their way. I for one support them and plan to do what ever I can to get the powers that be in this country to lisen, learn and take heed to the wishes of the 99%!!!!!!!

 

I feel young again!

October 13, 2011
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milesinnc - A family of four making 50k a year is absolutely poor.

 

But it is American poor.

 

They would have enough money for transportation, simple entertainment (cable, video games), food and a crappy house or apartment.

 

How would you expect a family of four making 50k total income to save for two retirements, and put two kids through college, all while trying to have some decent times in life (possible vacations, cable, internet, games)?

 

Also, how about all of the other taxes they pay? Payroll, medicare, social security, sales tax, property tax, gas tax, utility tax, school tax.. the list goes on and on.

 

Then you have to keep in mind what happens when one of them loses a job, or gets sick. How are they supposed to support themselves then?

 

So, were you trying to argue that this hypothetical family should be paying federal income tax? Really? While arguing that the richest people on this planet, those making more than a million dollars in PROFIT each year should not even have their taxes raised a few percent to where they were only a decade ago?

 

How would you describe yourself as a human being with such an opinion? I know how I would describe it.. compassionate, caring, understanding, empathetic, sympathetic, GOOD - I can tell you that it is none of the above.

October 13, 2011
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So many people just don't get it; it's not just about lack of jobs, laziness, Republican vs Democrat, living past our means etc. It's about the sad reality that this country has been slowly going down the third world toilet for nearly 4 decades now. Virtually all in the name of greed (money/power). The average, "Joe" the worker, has been slowly pinched to the point that in the early 70's an average wage would provide a live-able income, not glamorous, but live-able. today both spouses working an average wage don't have quite that much and it's progressively getting worse (not to mention their children being less supervised).

The ones in power want to slowly erode benefits that help a little, keep wages stagnant all the while let their special interests have their loop-holes and tax breaks is causing great discontent amongst a lot of people. This government had better understand this: We the people have the right to bear arms, and it was included within our constitution for a purpose. Question: What is that purpose?

October 13, 2011
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@ mrooo -  you say, "It's called empathy, and its a vital human characteristic, one that differentiates us from animals, and one that Republicans are severely lacking, if not lacking entirely." and then you tell someone to "... please stop painting them (the protestors) with the broad brush..."

 

hmmm.  interesting.

October 13, 2011
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How many of these protesters are in CC (credit card) debt over their heads? Who forced them to fill out the CC applications? Who forced them to spend more than they make? CC companies are now aggressively incentivising the use of CCs. You can talk about economy and jobs all day long, unless CC companies are broken up OR controlled, discussions/protests are a complete waste of time. It's insanity to think you're going to move ahead under the burden of CC debt (mounting interests). DEbt is expensive. I've even seen people in  debt investing money in stock, while the 1st investment is removing debt (up 20% returns).

October 13, 2011
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Getting back on topic... Like it or not, the OWS movement  transcends politics. This isn't about the Tea Party or Obama or the Republicans.   The people who are protesting are doing it to save Democracy. They are from all backgrounds and they are not all 'hippies','clowns', or 'freeloaders'.  Unless you haven't been paying attention, things have gotten really bad for the majority of the people in this country. Washington, Big Business and the Banks have been making sweetheart deals for a long time and this country is in a real mess. So if you consider yourself an American and you love this country, (and you aren't one of the 'few'), wake up and smell the coffee.  Instead of attacking the movement you should be supporting it. 

October 13, 2011
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milesinnc said, "you say, "It's called empathy, and its a vital human characteristic, one that differentiates us from animals, and one that Republicans are severely lacking, if not lacking entirely." and then you tell someone to "... please stop painting them (the protestors) with the broad brush..."

 

 

hmmm.  interesting."

 

I'm not following you here at all. What exactly is your point?

October 13, 2011
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@ mrooo - you tell someone to not paint the protestors with a broad brush while you paint republicans with a broad brush.  clear enough?

October 13, 2011
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Nothing but a bunch of DEADBEATS who need to QUIT their whining, GO HOME and do something if they REALLY want to make a difference.  

October 13, 2011
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Was this article really published based on the opinions of 75 people?  Crack journalism....

October 13, 2011
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MROOO  SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE PAINTING THE BRUSH WITH YOU TO. WHAT DOES THE RETURN KEY HAVE TO DO WITH IT .DID YOU MEAN THE SPACE KEY. DID NOT  MEAN TO CAUSE YOU PAIN. IF YOU WOULD HAVE READ CORRECTLY WHAT I WROTE THEN YOU WOULD SEE THAT I DID STATE THAT THE PROBLEM IS IN D..C AND THE ALWAYS US PRESENT ILL PAY YOU BACK FOR GETTING ME ELECTED. LIKE THE OBAMA ADMIN OUT OF ONE SIDE OF HIS MOUTH HE SAYS WALL STREET IS THE PROBLEM OUT THE OTHER SIDE HE SAYING GET ME ELECTED AGAIN AND I WILL PAY YOU AGAIN. SO FIRST WE NEED TO GET RIGID OF THE CAREER POLITICIANS.  AND YES THE GREED NEED TO BE GONE FROM WALL STREET . BUT NOT EVERY BODY THAT WORKS  OR OWNS A COMPANY ON WALL STREET ARE THE ENEMY. AND  IT IS NOT JUST ONE PARTY THEY BOTH HAD A HAND IN IT. ONE LAST THING I THINK FOR MY SELF AND IT IS A INSULT TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT  TAKE EVERY THING FOR FACE VALUE. I WOULD RATHER BE RIGHT THEN POPULAr. AND I HOPE THIS DOES NOT CAUSE PAIN.

October 13, 2011
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would love to keep chatting, but I'll be late to the rink (I'm a volunteer hockey hockey coach for a group of disadvantaged kids). 

October 13, 2011
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For those who believe these protesters I give you this to think about----This is the land of equal opportunity. It is NOT the land of equal results.  Small business that creates most jobs, well those business owners put all their assets on the line to create their business.  If you don't have a job maybe you need to create one and put all your assets on the line and give it a shot but of course if you succeed then you are a rich evil person who needs to be punished.  Russia tried a system where everyone was equal.  How did it work out?

October 13, 2011
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Escapee1,

A deadbeat is a lazy, complacent individual who not only refuses to do anything about the deplorable status quo, but would actually attack those who are willing to go out and do something.

October 13, 2011
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WILLA45

What In The World Do You Mean Transcends Politics  It  Over Flowing With Politices. Plus Ther E Is Not A Unified Message From The People And They Do Not Represent Me. Yes There Are People That Have And Will Take Advantage Of There Position. No Body Can Be Left Out Of That Not Even You I Sure That If You Were Given The Same Chance As Them. Not Saying You Would But Do The Same .Did You Ever Hear Of The Saying Money Is The Root Of All Evil. If They Do Then They Need To Pay For There Greed. But To Call Out Wall Street As A Whole Is Beyond Contemptible. And Would It Not Be Profiling To Say All The People That Work On Wall Street Are Evil And Greedy.

October 13, 2011
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Marus60, Russia's failed miserably, the Chinese have tweaked it somewhat and look at their middle class of late. 1.3 billion people vs .3 billion plus the fact their GDP is increasing while ours is? Does that not concern you?

October 13, 2011
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marcus 60...People are defending Democracy not advocating Socialism or Communism. Why does everyone keep bringing in Socialism or marxism? The problem is that Capitalism has been hijacked and it is running amok. What people want is their Democracy back and for Capitalism to work the way its supposed to! Nobody wants to be like Soviet Russia....Really!

 

October 13, 2011
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Love reading these boards, makes me feel that much smarter.

October 13, 2011
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Economic equality that's all. Whitout it social equality is a dream

October 13, 2011
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NEWJEFFERSON

THEY DID NOT TWEAK ANY THING THEY JUST DEVALUE THERE MONEY TO MAKE IT CHEAPER TO BUY OR INPORT THERE PRODUCTS .IF THEY WERE FORCED TO VALUE THERE MONEY FOR WHAT IT WAS REALY WORTH THEY WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME. THAT WOULD PUT THEM ON A LEVEL PLAYING FEILD.

October 13, 2011
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This is laughable, as in bent over gut busting laughable.  A survey from the sites around the country participating in OWS brought in a resounding 75 responses!!  This is not a survey, it is a bunch of starry eyed folks sitting around together musing about how they would like things to be in a perfect (their view of course!!) world.

 

Da Yooper

October 13, 2011
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If this were organized, it could lead to a forced modification of our governmental systems, a coup if you will, which could include the replacement of ALL government employees, whether they like it or not!

October 13, 2011
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A lot of "journalists" have also downplayed this movement.  Wonder if that's because most of them work for corporations. 

October 13, 2011
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Do we really have to get a DAILY update on these mentally challenged individuals?  SEVERAL stories a day about them?  No bias from CNN... Oh, no here.

October 13, 2011
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bchbum46

 

Well put... Agreed. I forget who said it but, "the harder I work, the luckier I am."  So much truth to that, as well as being in the right place at the right time. I know a lot of people who are very hard workers, and not necessarily great leaders. Leadership is a personality trait, that some people have, for better or worse, that allows them to rise in most any situation.

 

Some lead corruptly. Others lead with honor. Some people have a strong conscious, and therefore go out of their way to do the right thing. And, others burn bridges without a second thought for who they step on.

 

I started getting out and filming in all of my spare time just to document this important time in history. I've been trying not to take a side because there are good points from "a few people" in both parties, and I want to document from both perspectives to be fair. However, personally, I am glad to see the American Spirit of Democracy alive and people passionate enough exercise their American right to speak up. That is ultimately what makes this country great, separates us, and makes us strong. So even those that disagree with the movement should be paying tribute to those that are exercising that right.

 

There is definitely a lot of nervous tension in Liberty Square. Nobody wants to see this thing erupt because it could get very ugly if it does. But, I have to say that if this movement grows as big as I anticipate it will, those naysayers, corrupt politicians, and corporate crooks may have another thing coming if movement can somehow get the backing of some leaders that do still have a concious.

October 13, 2011
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A deadbeat is a lazy, complacent individual who not only refuses to do anything about the deplorable status quo, but would actually attack those who are willing to go out and do something.

 

Wow that is a perfect description of the Wall Street defending lemmings......

 

For me, these protests are shining a light on problems in our country.  These problems need action to correct.

Vote in to office those that will take action and not do nothing and blame others.

October 13, 2011
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Marcus60: You seem to be missing the point.  No one is saying that having wealth is bad or that makes you a "bad" person. Look at Warren Buffet - he seems to have a heart as do other wealthy people. Quit looking at this in binary terms - in it is either black or white, on or off. People are not against the acquisition of wealth but they are against the exploitation of our legislative system and the American populace by Corporatism and cronyism in Washington which has led to an extravagant amount of wealth highly concentrated to a few. Then, because these few have resources, they can pay lobbyist (one company paid $20 million last year!) to ensure they receive "preferential" treatment by our government. 

 

Here is a case in point: Why did Corporations receive a ton of Bail-out money and practically 0% interest but distressed homeowners cannot get a 6% loan modified to 3%? Why didn't the government lend billions to the average Joe American at 1 - 2% interest to lower their monthly house payment which would free-up money to help stimulate the economy? I know, someone will say that the money loaned to the banks was supposed to go to the people but that DID NOT HAPPEN.  Instead, the banks shored-up their balance sheets first and, I think, have invested the other monies.

 

Do you see what happened? Thus, it is NOT equal opportunity for all.  True Capitalism would have let AIG FAIL because it was POORLY managed and BAD risks were taken - they SHOULD have failed and then, someone else - maybe you or I - could have properly managed a company to replace it. But, that did not happen because the CEO of AIG has ALLOT of powerful friends in Washington.

 

Maybe someone can explain it better than I can.  The bottom line is: Equal opportunity for all does not really exist under the present rules and structures.

October 13, 2011
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All the protesters' seemingly diverse demands fit under one roof: disenfranchisement.  They're demonstrating in NYC because Washington simply no longer is the seat of power in this country and does not hear the people it purports to serve, simple as that.

October 13, 2011
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Michigan,

I agree that the name of this movement is too broad.   The movement should be directed at those in government, banking and big business who have broken a covenant with the American People.  There are good and decent people in all walks of life including the 'demonized' 1% uber rich.  My own daughter worked in Wall Street once upon a time and she worked very hard and got paid very little. I wish that all the people who had integrity and guts would call out the crooks and the snakes and expose them so they can be made accountable. They have ruined the lives of many decent Americans. Target everyone on Wall Street? Wrong.  That's just another broad stroke.

October 13, 2011
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I think this article could have been written in a less condescending manner.  Using quotation marks around a person's main point is not really a good form of communication.  It would also help not to describe them as a self-appointed anything.  They are pointing up issues that affect 99% of people.  Never did they say that they are 99% of people.

October 13, 2011
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Republicans tone down hate. Why?  New poll out shows Americans favor protestors over tea party!

 

Get behind this now!

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

This could work if enough of you pick it up and run with it....

The conservatives are losing and they know it!

Spread this to friends...

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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"If you want to achieve something in this life, get off your rear, work hard and be honest."

 

- My name is Bernie Madoff and I approve of this message.

October 13, 2011
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Now or never America. This movement needs ONE demand. Think about it....

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

Hold new elections/new members can't be owned by the banks/insurance/oil interests. This only works if we have ONE demand. One unity. One voice. All calling for the SAME thing. Simple. Easy. Powerful. Non-political.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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DOWN WITH OBAMA AND THE WALL STREET SCUM.  WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE USA IS LIBERATED.

October 13, 2011
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ONE demand. One voice. Simple. Powerful. Non-political. Easy. It only works if YOU run with it. The media has to hear ONE demand, then it takes off. You have more power now than ever....

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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If you have to ask why the Occupiers are protesting then you probably are too disconnected from on-the-ground American reality to understand the answer. If you dismiss them all as 'dirty hippies' then it's obvious you DON'T WANT to understand. Stay ignorant if that's what works for you --- but don't ask for respect!

October 13, 2011
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drhmichigan

I totally agree that if they were to have their currency inline with all other major economies then it would be a much more level playing field. But why has it taken so long to persuade/force them to do so? Don't you think major corporations who do business with them would want to block such attempts?

October 13, 2011
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Make it non-political. Make it powerful. Make it cause fear. Make it easy. Make it strong. Make it unifying. Make it stand out. Make it last. Make it your own. Make it simple. Make one demand.

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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Here's something the democrats republicans conservatives liberals hippies military young old students blue-collar workers professionals pot-smokers nerds and YOU can all get behind....

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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It's so funny how last night the news stated that the GOP is softening up on their statements regarding OWS. If the movement takes hold, the next thing you know Boehner will be in the streets with a sign and and there will be a whole new twist on this thing. Both sides will try to claim it as their own.

 

I say this because of the irony that politcians do whatever gets them elected. If the beat grows strong enough it wouldn't surprise me one bit. I am a demopublican:), so I tend not to believe much of what either side is saying.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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One demand=power

One demand=unity

One demand=simple

One demand=change

One demand=fear

One demand=one voice

One demand=one demand

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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Can someone clarify how Obama is a hypocrite by accepting campaign fundraiser money from the rich 1%? If anything, I think he's only proving his own point even more. Instead of asking the other 99% for campaign money, he's gotten most of it from the rich 1%, and he ended up raising more campaign money than all of the GOP hopefulls combined. This is proof that raising the taxes on the wealthy will generate a lot of revenue for the government to allocate directly back to the other 99%.

October 13, 2011
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demopublicans make one demand! It couldn't be easier! I just gave it to you....

 

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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The 99% are mad at corruption at the Corporations and Banks.  Anything from sub-prime to sending jobs over seas to increase their profits for the shareholders.  The 99% are mad at Government for the GOP for being in bed with the Banks and corporations and deregulating and the Dems for catering to them.   We need the People's Congress back if the American dream is ever to come back for the midle class.

October 13, 2011
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First of all I have the right to boycott just as you have the right to asemble. Second to behave like they are on wall street is a disgrace to law abiding citizens everywhere who work and pay taxes. You cannot expose yourself in public and do what they are doing and expect to be taken seriously besides those who just hate democracy and capitalism. I do not like some of the things the goverment is doing but to be George Soros puppit is not on my list of things to do in this lifetime. You need to educate yourselfs on the protests throughout the years. 1877 1933, etc always in a revolt and always just a dream. For years they talked about how good socialism was then it collapsed on itself and know they just want to complain because it is easier to do that than learn a trade and support yourself.

October 13, 2011
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This is all about corporate greed.  Without corporate greed we lessen job scarcity, wall street impunity, bailouts, and govt corruption.  Companies are making record profits while continuing to outsource or cut jobs in order to make more profit and make investors happy.  Why not be happy with a good profit while still saving jobs?  EVERYTHING is about greed, profit, and wall street.

October 13, 2011
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Lots of talk talk talk. No solution. No demand. No end game. No way to score points. No results. No unity. And thats is why the banks/insurance/oil/congress will win. They know this movement has no goal. No end results..... Lots an lots of talk from both parties/groups-liberals and conservatives. In fact, they count on us having no demands.... Here's one. So simple yet so elusive.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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nice high-level nonsense. how many people are you going to find that support a lack of jobs and an increase in government corruption. this is what would be called fluff, not news. you manufactured some feel good nonsense about a group of people that the founding fathers has in mind....

 

when they made us a republic and not a democracy.

October 13, 2011
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Enough with who caused it! Who cares....

What's the solution? End game? I have an idea....

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--PAPARAZZINC DOT COM

john v

October 13, 2011
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It's honorable that all these people are protesting. However, they are about the most disorganized protestors ever. Even with some of them calling for unity, one voice, and one demand, they have none of that. 1000 angry voices screaming to their own song with no unity, no list of demands, and no one voice. Their intentions are good, but their reasoning is seriously self-defeating. How can anyone take them seriously when they appear to everyone as 1000's of homeless people camped on the steps of Wall Street taking no action but complaining about not having a job, or money, or a college education, or government corruption, and doing nothing about it? Most of the Government corruption they are complaining about isn't even in the Government, it's in the corporate policies and banking policies that govern the corporate world and the banks. There needs to be some level of regulation on both as a totally competitive market is just as self-destructive as a non-competitive one. The only thing this protest is accomplishing is wearing out the police trying to protect them and keep order, and costing taxpayers millions. Seriously, go home. Your accomplishing nothing.

October 13, 2011
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George Sorros money is involved in this Sham revolution!!

Please people wake up! I know mostly all of the people actually out on the street are good people who want to see big changes. I was ready to go occupy L.A. myself until something told me to look deeper into what this was really about.

 

If you do some mild research into the money source of this movement and the ideas or theology which is pushed by these people you will find something sinister and so hard to comprehend you will either become passionate about informing others or you will cower in fear and never speak of it again..

 

This is part of the agenda to bring about a One World Goverment which cannot happen until the collapse of the United States either financially or socially. I would be very wary of movements such as this which has sorros money backing it not to say regular people haven't donated money, they have but this plan, the execution and the mass manipulation is all text book psychology to pit sides against eachother to create friction in hopes of a disaterous event in which they can usher in their plan of their great savior a "One World Goverment"

 

Do not believe the mass media when they tell you Sorros money is only loosely related to the movement.

 

It can be completly overwhelming the scope of this massive conspiracy to bring this earth into the "New World Order" But it's happening right in front of our faces and we must be prepared for what we are truely up against.

 

Go to the website 3worldwars and do some research into Albert Pike "famous free mason" This man actually wrote the blueprint on how to bring about the coming of a New World Order by causing 3 world wars. The first two have already happened exactly how he wrote them to be and the third which is coming was written to be between the zionist's and Islam, he wrote this in the early 1800's!!

 

The Elites who are the architects of this plan. Carefully pit the right groups against each other to further their evil agenda then they are there to pick up the pieces and take over. Jews, Muslims, Christians are all the enemy to these wicked elites beacuse their god is truely the Devil these crazy bastards actually worship Satan himself!! Throgh the passing of these evil doctrines over thousand's of years by the ruling calss this is what we get, a really screwed up violent greedy world.

 

Dont let them manipulate you through the mass media dont fall for the lies and deceit.Theses people have nothing but contempt for you the free person who loves god, freedom,family, healthy food,peace,America. Will we go like sheep or Lions?   

October 13, 2011
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mjm223

 

Can we all just agree that both sides of the aisle are taking money for their campaigns and that is the inherent problem. If I give you $100,000.00 I would think you would feel some pressure to give me a government contract or some kind of preferential treatment.

 

The old saying "you can't get blood from a turnip". If congress on either side relied on donations from the 99% they wouldn't be able to get elected. I agree he is no doubt a hypocrite.

 

From what I heard on the ground at OWS from a wide range of people, you hit the nail on the head. But, it is happening on both sides. So, if you believe that is wrong, then you should probably consider joining the protest because that seems to be what it is about for both Democrats and Republicans at OWS.

 

 

October 13, 2011
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On the next episode of 'Hoarders' we'll take you deep into the mansion of a wealthy job creator. Notice how all of his rooms are flooded waist-deep in tax breaks and credits, and his closets are overflowing with revenue generated from US jobs that were given overseas...

October 13, 2011
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Nobody believes the protestors are being paid, including you....

 

Get Behind ONE demand and EVERYBODY wins-liberals conservatives old young smart dumb rich poor students professionals blue-collar workers pot-smokers nerds hippies radicals saints sinners etc...

 

 

One demand. Thats all it takes....

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

So simple yet elusive...

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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46% protesting "government corruption"? Maybe an incompetent government, but I wouldn't necessarily say corrupt.  Or did they just read "government" and decided them to blame for their socio-economic woes.  We all need someone to blame for our problems are the "government" is always a good punching bag.  I don't blame Obama directly, I blame Obama and the guys he selected to be in his cabinent.

October 13, 2011
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Do you know why the organizers of OWS don't have a demand? Because it would allow a conslusion, and when your accepting donations that would be the end of the money...

 

This is not about them. It's about YOU and this country.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

Take this movement away from them and give it back to YOU...

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 13, 2011
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NYCPJ

 

I'm not quite sure I understood your point. I was trying to make the argument that Obama is not a hypocrite by accepting campaign money from the rich.

 

Obama has hosted a lot of upscale fundraising events that were obviously targeted towards the wealthy. These are the same wealthy "job creators" that are supposed to hate Obama because he wants to raise their taxes. Yet, he ends up raising nearly $80 million, which is more money than all of the GOP candidates combined for this quarter.

 

I think this is proof that Obama was on to something by wanting to raise their taxes. If he can make this much money off the rich by campaigning, imagine how much more the government would have made if it had raised their taxes. This is money that then could have gone directly into helping the other 99% in the form of tax credits for families and small businesses.

 

But people call Obama a hypocrite simply by associating with the rich. I guess I don't get how that alone makes him a hypocrite.

October 13, 2011
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NYCPJ

 

Oh, by the way, I would love to join the OWS movement, but my job has demanding hours and I'm virtually living paycheck-to-paycheck at thi point. So getting to a movement is a little tough, but I'm there in spirit...

October 13, 2011
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Tarzan322

you couldn't be more off the point than ever. This whole protest movement is just a start; it's a rallying call for unity. It's a call for an articulate person(s) to unify those with a cause. You call for regulations of the corporate world but to whom is the responsibility of regulation? The very government they are protesting - maybe?

October 13, 2011
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No movement without a clear demand is successful. Maybe that's the point. No end game. I have a demand we can all get behind:

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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I have a politically-neutral demand. It's so simple even Americans can't screw it up. You don't have to even think about it.

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 13, 2011
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HAHAHA MEDIA TRYING TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER ... STAY TOGETHER ... THE GOAL IS TO BRING CHANGE !!!

October 13, 2011
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This Protest is for all Americans concerned about their country. Republicans, Democrats, Liberal & conservative, Rich and Poor, educated and uneducated, etc...

 

Please do not see this as a "liberal" vs "conservative" fight.  it is a fight to regain the Republic that allowed everyone a chance to succeed if they wanted to.

 

We need to stop

 

1. Corporate Greed that is never satisfied with decent profits and uses America as it base while hiring overseas workers for pennies on the dollars and then selling it in America for TONS of profit. Profit is good - greed is destructive.

 

2. Politicians need to make lobbyist groups illegal.  This is how the Corporations corrupt legislation.

 

On a positive note, our government should "bail-out" the taxpayer with 2% mortgage loans for everyone who has faithfully made their mortgage payments or are in distress through no fault of their own.

 

I know people would argue that this is insane - bailing-out the average American with a 2% loan but why is it? The Corporations were bailed-out at a lower interest rate then that and the Federal Reserve is loaning money to the banks at something like .025 (or maybe it is .25%) and the banks are just investing it to make a profit. This would help allot of Americans out and free up income to spur the economy to grow again.

 

Anyway, these are my thoughts. Maybe they are right, maybe they could be modified some but, whatever the case, please join the protest and fight for OUR country - let's get OUR beautiful Republic back! Are there any good people left who care? Come, and fight for YOUR country!

October 13, 2011
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For everyone that's freaking out that it adds up to more than 100% :

It's a survey in which you can cite MORE THAN ONE reason.

October 13, 2011
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THey are not going to change a thing by protesting and offering up rediculous lists of undoable demands.  They will change things by voting.  They got what they voted for in the large part by listening to each other the last time.  Granted the choices weren't great, but NOBODY in their right mind or with an ounce of political savvy votes for an unknown, untried, inexperienced pretty boy and then expect him to part the seas.  He has allowed the greed to grow and foster.

October 13, 2011
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I find it amusing that since Mr. Obama has burgeoned onto the scene, he himself has become a millionaire by selling his books.

October 13, 2011
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Perhaps, if take a closer look, it reflect why america's trogectory is downard. Or, a even closer look, this generation is paying for the sins the previous generation committed around the world....

October 13, 2011
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Government corruption is not the main reason for these protests.  The numbers in this poll are fixed in an attempt to get the Tea Party to join in and to gain sympathy from moderates.

 

Most of the people involved in these "occupy" protests are communists, socialists, and unions; and, as we all know, these groups love big government, and are primarily concerned with overthrowing capitalism.  If these protestors were really upset with government corruption, wouldn't they be protesting at a government building or somewhere in Washington DC?

 

These protestors want to bring down the free market.  They are most likely funded and organized by a george soros organization.

October 13, 2011
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haunani, you may be right, maybe it will fail but at least people tried.

 

"Nothing ventured, nothing gained"

 

inaction is guaranteed to produce no results - action has the potential to change history.

 

Even if we fail, we tried and in this, we can hold our heads up high and know that we did not stand idly by and fiddled while the Republic burned.

 

Join in Haunani - yes, Obama is the problem and so was Bush and Clinton, etc... The system is broke. Politicians can't fix it because they are caught in "the system". It will take the people to rescue it - people who aren't indentured to the Corporate money.

October 13, 2011
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mjm223

 

Got you... I know, I am up at 5 and done at 10pm most everyday myself this week. I am waiting for video to render, so I am chiming in on this great debate. Crazy how hard we are all working to keep the status quo, and yet we are the lucky ones. But, I get a couple of days each week to get out and film what's happening. You can see a couple of iReports I did this week. It's quite amazing down there because there is beauty and tension all at the same time.

 

My point was just that both sides are taking corporate money for campaigns. So both can be hypocritical if they position that against one another.

 

I am not for a larger government, that is for sure because it leads to a lot of waste.

 

On the other hand, I have to agree. You can't tax the poor or jobless and create wealth for the country. If you tax the middle class it means your taxing small business owners that are stretching to hire one person at a time, which in turn equals fewer local jobs. So, I would think that you would have to tax the people that are uber-rich because they have 90% of the money. It's simple math really.

 

Now, In theory, the uber-wealthy are hiring people and generating jobs. That is the case that Republicans make day in and day out. But if that is indeed the case, then why are jobs at an all time low, when the corporations and wealthiest people have record amounts of money that they are sitting on?

 

So, I think that is why OWS has so much trouble defining their agenda. The whole system isn't working in any way, shape, or form.

October 13, 2011
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I find it hilarious that Kanye West, Alec Baldwin, Russell Simmons, and other celebrities are supporting and marching with the protestors.  These celebrities are the very people being protested - these celebrities are the 1%.  Russell Simmons alone is worth $75 million.  Do the protestors realize this?

October 13, 2011
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OMG socialism.  We need to throw that word out of the discussion.

October 13, 2011
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mbowsky, that is not correct. Again, we are not protesting wealth.  Wealth is neutral - neither good nor bad.  It is the acquisition of wealth that becomes the problem.  If people are willing to go to any ends, to any means to amass wealth - no matter who it hurts or destroys - that IS the problem.

 

Please think deeper than you are seeing it. it is not wealth that is the problem but GREED.

October 13, 2011
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Reading all these posts has made me realize that this protest has already achieved its goal.  People are having a conversation about what they believe is wrong in America today.  They don't need to have an organized list of things that they want to see fixed because the list is as long as my arm!  I'm an employed young person not long out of college, and I totally support this protest because there are definitely things that need to be changed in this country and anyone that can't at least admit that needs to take a serious look around.  Nobody wants hand outs.  People want to have the prospect of a job when they finished their grossly over-priced college education.  Nobody is jealous of the wealthy.  I know that I just feel like they should be paying as much percentage wise as the middle class does in taxes.  Why is any of that unreasonable? 

October 13, 2011
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"This is not Rep vs. Dem.  This is not capitalism vs. socialism.  This is We The People vs. the international corporate gangsters who have robbed our treasury and bought our congress.  This is about taking back our democracy and making it work for humanity."

 

weak ignorant minds cannot see beyond "parties"

not for or against these people just stating the realness

October 13, 2011
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Hey ho! Hey ho!

All these surveys have to go!

October 13, 2011
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Hey guys. Don't accept the money from rich.  Don't eat the food donated by rich.  They are greedy.

October 13, 2011
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Hard working = wealth = greed

October 13, 2011
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You use iphone.  You are richer than me.  Are you a greed.

October 13, 2011
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Refreshing at least some of the comments are rational arguments.  Would like to point out that any change will start with each of us individually.  According to some numbers the local TV station promulgated only 30 percent of us bother even registering much less voting.  Perhaps getting the other 70 percent to do so might make a change.  I challenge every person who reads these posts to lobby everyone they know, every person they interface with on a daily basis or even total strangers to register before the cut off date and vote.  If you don't like large corporations, don't buy anything from them, period.  Find a local "Mom and Pop" or sole proprietor and do business with them.  It won't take to long before they(the large corporations you don't like) hemorrhage so much cash flow they will bend over backwards to make their stock holders happy with some kind of return.  As far as the individuals who cannot make a good argument and rely on the trusty adhominem attack you kind folks need to chill out and refrain from emotional attacks, don't you feel that we as a nation can only be ill served by less than candid and rational conversation?  If we allow point makers to discount the real facts and believe any story they feel might raise their viewer ratings what then?  It is time beyond time that all of us people start unifying voting being heard and participating, if that means going to city council meetings or commissioners court or city elders then that is what the means but being complacent and a rube for said point makers is just this side of suicidal.

October 13, 2011
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I have very little sympathy for most of the protesters.  This is supposed to be their example of democracy at work?  I am sorry, go run for office.  Sit through the endless meetings late at night, miss time with your family, have friends and neighbors get mad at you  and work your way up to a level of acceptance that leads to higher office.  The thing is, these protesters want someone to do something for them now instead of setting themselves to the grueling work of actual governance that should have been going on in all of the preceeding years.  People want "them" to do something about an issue, but "them" is supposed to be us and it isn't any more.  How about ireport add a question to their survey and find out how many of these protesters have actually ran for or been elected to any level of governmental office?  I believe that you will find it's not a very high percentage.  We don't need to take back our democracy, it's still there, we just need to participate in it in a meaningful and studied manner, which requires more endureance, grit and determination than camping out in a park and yelling slogans for a week!

October 13, 2011
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This occupancy is such a joke. It's just a bunch of jobless idiots and young college kids who think they know everything because they took a class on politics. They aren't going to change anything, they are just interrupting the lives of innocent people who actually go to work every day.

October 13, 2011
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The media is slick.  People are screaming the same thing and they keep going, "what, we don't understand you".  Look at the firt four columns, and find the common theme.  Corporate Job Scarcity, Corporate greed, Corporate bailouts, & Corporate Impunity.  Hello, media why are they occupying wall street, because of unscrupulous capitalism.  It has come to oppose American value system.  Its an accountable, value-based capitalism being demanded. The other 46% upset with gov't curruption is just mad that the corporations have such a hold on the system. 

October 13, 2011
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I doubt the majority of you will not read this post since it seems to be "too long" but for the few that will, PLease take something from this and spread the ideas to others.

 

As Dogma6 said at the very top

"Like I said..

A bunch of angry people that are not unified in thier cause.

If they are not unified they will have little no no impact at all.

If I was to "Occupy" I would be against corporate greed."

 

He's 100 percent correct, I hope the individuals surveyed do not stand for the majority, if so then if you're going to protest and stand up against something at least know what you're calling out. The only reason there is corruption in the U.S. government is because the politics are the "boys in washington" for these Big Corporations, If it wasn't for corporate greed then America could be thriving right now. Don't get me wrong, I am part of the 99%, but I am no socialist, I'm a complete Capitalist Pig. Just these current corporations (Oil, Coal Mining, Environment Destroying Companies which use limited resources) are the ones which are twisting the laws and rules to their own agenda and playbook.

 

Why Should 99% of the Citizens who have these same rights as the 1%, by our constitution,  have to see a state more favored to that 1%? Now I am aware there is no such thing as an absolute world, but the state of this Extraordinary nation, which has a history and philosophical start like no other, isn't at its FULL potential.

 

The only reason we are still relying on oil is a joke! There's plenty of more efficient and cleaner (greener) energys out there such as ALGAE for crying out loud! It's just there's no VOICE in congress or by the people to make this happen. But if us 99% start to share a same agenda and put our minds together in a civilized and proper way just like our founding fathers did, then America can have it's new and true Era of Good Feelings.

 

We can be a much more self efficient and stronger Nation than we currently are, I feel as if the citizens don't truly understand the fundamentals of what America is based on.

October 13, 2011
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CC1115 Is Also Correct and Raises My Point So I Thought I'd Repost it to Get More Minds to Read!

 

Reading all these posts has made me realize that this protest has already achieved its goal.  People are having a conversation about what they believe is wrong in America today.  They don't need to have an organized list of things that they want to see fixed because the list is as long as my arm!  I'm an employed young person not long out of college, and I totally support this protest because there are definitely things that need to be changed in this country and anyone that can't at least admit that needs to take a serious look around.  Nobody wants hand outs.  People want to have the prospect of a job when they finished their grossly over-priced college education.  Nobody is jealous of the wealthy.  I know that I just feel like they should be paying as much percentage wise as the middle class does in taxes.  Why is any of that unreasonable?

October 13, 2011
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I'm sorry but 75 responses is NOT that significant of a number. This survey has little validity and again big news corps are trying to pass off crazy polls instead of doing REAL journalism.

October 13, 2011
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I think I understand now...if you have something they don't, they want it and don't want to work for it

October 13, 2011
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How about bringing those offshored jobs back to USA (minimum wages, yeah, okay) and give it to those are occupy whatever movement? This atleast can be done by the companies who are rolling in profits (ask government for more tax breaks if you want)

October 13, 2011
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I hope this movement builds on its cause and comes up with some specific goals and the means to get to the goals.

Unfortunalely. to have an impact, wall street and the corporations who support wall street culture need to feel the pain.The only pain the feel is the pain for money and the best way to make them realize that they are not Gods (Mr Blankfein please note) is to hurt their bottom line. I am sure there are plenty of creative intelligence out there to device a strategy which can bring down the Goliath who is sucking the blood out the masses.We need to start systematically make the public aware of the corporations who need to change - by boycotting products made by corporations who pay CEOs multi-million dollar to create profits not by innovation but my mergers and don't flinch when handingout millions in severances to CEOs for destroying wealth but cringe to pay decent severances to the workers they lay-off and underfund pensions and leave it to the government agency.

We all know that wall street alongwith the unscrupulous CEO and boards have done their best to increase the divide between the haves and have-nots.

Wall street is worse than the used car salesman who would peddle his own mother just to make a quick buck.Unfortunately for us to be successful we need the change to come from the corporate culture which rewards greed before employees and society. At some point there need to be goals, and ways and means to accomplish them

October 13, 2011
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Corporate America's expansion into China was paid for by the American taxpayer. Bush's “tax cuts for the rich” policy helped to fund this transition. That's why no American jobs were created but a lot of Chinese jobs were. Republican politicians represent the corporate rich, the 'job creators'. When was the last time you saw a job created in the U.S.? The rich don't pay tax in this country and their corporations are physically based in communist China; where, by the way, SOCIALIZED healthcare and SOCIALIZED education are the norm and ALL the banks are state owned. These former American companies only pay tax in China, supporting a growing communist government and military. Republican politicians sold us (U.S.) out. These guys aren't batting for us (U.S.) anymore.

October 13, 2011
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I don't think many of the protesters are protesting OBAMA, you dips!

 

The whole Wall Street system is corrupt.  And they want jobs.  And Boehner better pass Obama's bill.

October 13, 2011
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Those that started the movement told you its meant to evolve,you just arnt listening.when did a list of demands become manditory to protest the injustices forced upon people?you already have the five of them listed,you missed war,there are people that want to live in peace, and see no reason to be building permanent bases overseas.a war the certian people/corporations are making profit from,its corruption on many, many levels, its not agreeing with the direction this country is heading in, its a govt that isint by and for the people, but run by corporations,lobbyists, closed door decision/policy making,and things being done "under the radar" (meaning in secrete) and many things being done in contrast to whats best for EVERYONE not just the top,the biggest wealth transfer in this countrys history.

October 13, 2011
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If 46% of Occupiers are protesting against government corruption, why aren't they storming the Capitol Building?

 

October 13, 2011
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After watching the 99% crowd for several weeks now, we can safely say that 99% of their brain cavity is empty and the remaining 1% is mush.

October 13, 2011
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The corruption that money brings to politics is destroying our democracy. Lobbying and enormous campaign donations are all condoned forms of legal bribery. Only in America! And now we have Citizens United. Great nations rise and fall. Clearly we are falling.

 

So what do we want? DEMOCRACY NOT PLUTOCRACY! That's the required fix.

 

October 13, 2011
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Hey guy, you want to eat the dollar bill to become rich, right?

October 13, 2011
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In reference to the Global Protests...........

 

Corinthians 11: 12-15......... I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

 

Ephesians 6: 12..... For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms

October 13, 2011
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Oh CNN, the American public isn't stupid. We have seen the pictures, we have seen videos of their movement, and yes, many of us have actually seen their protest live. I find it very odd and quite strange that this network is trying so very hard to make OWS protestors appear like perfectly humble, clean, intelligent, law-abiding, brilliant citizens. The fact of the matter is, is that most are not. These people don't represent the 99%! These people represent a small population of the United States. They are disgusting and complete idiots. They want Socialism, Communism, they think the US is wicked, and they want more government control. This is not a grass-root organization. These people are being funded by extreme liberal groups. We can see the postings online begging people to come protest, and if they do, then they will get paid. I normally don't believe in conspiracy theories, but I am a little convinced that perhaps CNN is working with the same people who are funding these protests. A little note to CNN: If these protests had their way, CNN would be shut down. Your so called "professional journalists" would be replaced by these protesters. They don't like Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. You are in the same category as Wall Street.  We are all concerned about the economy, but Wall Street isn't to blame, and sending out disgusting, mindless individuals will only hurt the democrat party. People are going to associate these individuals with the democrat party. I for one, am disgusted and embarrassed to share the same party with these people. I actually would prefer the Tea Party any day, and I am a democrat who is thinking about joining the Tea Party to  do my own form of protesting against the encouragement and blatant bias for OWS. And yes, CNN we do understand who these protestors are. Apparently, this network doesn't.

October 13, 2011
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many of our problems are self-inflicted. its not surprising people are fed-up. unfortunately, our dumbo president has misled people to think its about successful people (1%) rather than ineffective congress and white house

October 13, 2011
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we need to start a fund and get these kid some money for winter.

October 13, 2011
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Corporate greed. Corporate personhood. Lack of regulation. Income disparity. Pay to play political system. Lobbyists. Lack of ethics. Outrageously exaggered defense spending. No bid defense contracts. Job exportation. Just to name a few.

October 14, 2011
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These people are whats wrong with this country. We have so many freedoms here in the US that to complain about our living standards is unconscionable. Stop protesting, pick yourself up, dust off the hippie "give me a hand out, lets all get a long, communist spread the wealth" cr@p, and go get a job, work hard, become successful and rich. It's that simple.

October 14, 2011
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These protesters remind me of this woman I know (not my wife).  "I'm mad" "Why?" "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you!"

October 14, 2011
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Why would one want to protest, well:

A relatively small group of bankers got obscenely wealthy while defrauding the people of the United States and many abroad.

Those same A-holes got to keep their fortunes and also work within the govt now as advisers. Think things are going to change any time soon?

Pensions have been destroyed.  Property value that millions were relying on to retire has been diminished significantly.  Guess we're working till we're dead.

The govt should have immediately investigated and prosecuted the culprits involved.  Instead, their fortunes remain intact and they even get closer to power than ever.  There are very good reasons to protest over this debacle.  But a lot of people have been hurt in different ways so the message isn't going to be consistent.  Some people just want others to wake up.  It's not simple to understand, but it's not impossible. 

October 14, 2011
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Why would one want to protest, well:

A relatively small group of bankers got obscenely wealthy while defrauding the people of the United States and many abroad.

Those same A-holes got to keep their fortunes and also work within the govt now as advisers. Think things are going to change any time soon?

Pensions have been destroyed.  Property value that millions were relying on to retire has been diminished significantly.  Guess we're working till we're dead.

The govt should have immediately investigated and prosecuted the culprits involved.  Instead, their fortunes remain intact and they even get closer to power than ever.  There are very good reasons to protest over this debacle.  But a lot of people have been hurt in different ways so the message isn't going to be consistent.  Some people just want others to wake up.  It's not simple to understand, but it's not impossible. 

October 14, 2011
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PRICELESS !!

 

NOTFORNMAN:

True story: My kid is an idealistic 21-year-old, unemployed musician who believes she should be on Wall Street protesting "the System".  She wants to borrow my BMW to drive to NYC and stay with my cousin who lives in 3 million dollar suite on West 64th one building away from Central Park. 

Because I love her, I could only say to her, "Darling Daughter, you just don't get it."

October 14, 2011
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occupy Merced CA. saturday stand for your future and your family future goverment is destroying the future of these country.

October 14, 2011
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why do the percents add up to 119% just saying come on people

October 14, 2011
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I grew tired of the horrible job situations in America so I recently moved to Asia where (guess what) I'm actually respected and get paid pretty well. This is an internal problem with the US corporations where everyone thinks they can treat their workers like crap with little pay. And trust me, Im not a hippy, I have worked many different jobs getting paid $300 a day. But it seems like you conservative tards just dont get it. America is done for if everyone is going to treat everyone the way they do now and give little pay.

October 14, 2011
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So the biggest complaint is that they didn't do any research on the people they voted into office? That is saying they voted at all.

October 14, 2011
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I agree with the need to fight government corruption.  However, doesn't this mean they should be picketing Capitol Hill and other capitals?

 

Don't just hassle the corps receiving too much money ... hassle the government that gives them too much via bailouts, tax breaks, etc.

October 14, 2011
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We're people that want positive change for our future, and our children's future. We can't keep going on like this.

 

There's no time like the present.

October 14, 2011
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I have to laugh at all these comments about Sorros bankrolling these protesters. Where were your protests about all the astroturf Tea Party groups run by billionaires and big monied interests.  Koch brothers. Karl Rove. Rupert Murdock. Dick Armey. Your hypocracy makes me sick. Are you maybe paid by one of these to write this garbage? Or maybe you are worried that the marching in the street caused by the biggest ever gapo between rich and poor might next lead to guillotines? 

October 14, 2011
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What can be wrong about protesting for fairness & opportunity??

How does that make you part of a "mob?"

October 14, 2011
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#Zabriskie

I was making no reference to this survey at all, only to the fact that it is making enough news that its common knowledge.  I can walk up to anyone in the street and ask if they know about it and odds are they do and can tell me their opinions about it.  And I agree that this survey is pointless and poorly done.

 

And I totally agree with Kodes100.

October 14, 2011
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You "own" a 3,000 sq ft McMansion; except you owe more than it's worth so the bank really owns it - and you're in huge debt.  Your BMW lease payments are killing you; but you can't sell it cuz' you're upside down in it too.  Now the "job creator" you work for is downsizing and you're nervous.

 

You always thought you'd become a 1% fat cat like Donald Trump.  But alas, reality is setting in and you've come to realize you've been played by the 1% just like the rest of us.

 

Don't be embarrassed because you followed the American dream and lost at the hands of Wall Street too.  Be proud and join the Occupy patriots; or at least realize your folly and keep quiet. 

October 14, 2011
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no more financial derivatives

October 14, 2011
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The root of the problem is that a "stock" or a "share" is a legal document that facilitates the transference of wealth from those who create it (those who do the work) to someone else. There's much sophistication in the forms that equities can take, and hence over many decades exotic trading instruments have sprung up so speculation can take even more advantage of that transference of wealth. It makes for great gambling...why do you think certain stocks are called 'blue chips'. A hedge fund manager has no more to do with the capitalist basis of production than some bettor in Las Vegas has to do with that game being played on the field. And since the laws of private property are at the root of our capitalist legacy, our government will always have a founding responsibility with respect to being accountable for the crimes that Wall Street is allowed to commit. So, I can see why so many are hitting the government corruption angle via the occupation. D.C. is owned by Wall Street and the financial sector.

October 14, 2011
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This greed filled, man made, corruption caused recession will continue to grow and the "people" will continue to loose things that that provide stability.  At this point the government is so bankrupt it hardly can help the people.  "Big bad" corporations and government look out for their own pockets and these things are what the people gather against... Its the beginning of survival and many people are  beginning to feel the strain and hastily grabbing at what they can get while is around... Luckily for some of you (that gripe against this this loose protest and the demonstrating people) who are reading this are not yet feeling that strain.  When your job becomes unstable and your security is undermined, when you loose your health care, pension, and home... When there is no bread, 10 million stocks or a pot of gold will be obsolete... I bet your uncompassionate view point will soften when you find that your means have become scarce and you cannot provide for family or yourself... at that point you will also realize the futile effort of eating ones own words...   take care everyone...

October 14, 2011
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we need the disbandment of wall st to fix the country

October 14, 2011
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First of all, this is NOIT the 99%; this is more closely the .00000000001% .. but nice theatrics nonetheless and catch phrase

 

To the heart of the demands - corruption in DC - the catalyst behind the banks financial meltdown was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their dubious loan program which dumped billions in non performing mortgages on the market. This was a Democratic program that backfired when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac went out of control.

 

Now a couple of facts about this corruption.

 

1. Who was in charge of overseeing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae?  Democrat Congressman Barney frank of Massachusetts who was Chair of the House Finance Committee and Senator Chris Dodd of CT who was Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.

 

2. During this corruption, who were the three largest recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and freddie Mac?  --- Answer:  barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and barack Obama.

 

3. Who fought against an audit of Fannie and Freddie?  Answer - B Frank, C Dodd  and B Obama

 

The crooks are not on Wall Street; they are in DC right now and they are the Democrats

October 14, 2011
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I finally get it, OWS stands for "Outhouse on Wall Street". It's nothing but an acronym for a public toilet.

 

 

October 14, 2011
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and protesting and clashing with police and parading past Murdocks apartment will make a difference. Please get a life.

October 14, 2011
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This protest needs a ralltying cry to action and a specific call to action. I do not mean vote for this party or that party, or this candidate or that candidate, because what we have all learned is that ANY candidate, once elected and in DC, tends to forget why they are there and starts the "get me reelected" game.  SO, I say to you, if you want to fix the problem, demand the following two issues be adopted as law:

 

1. Demand term Limits for Congress so we do not have career beauracrats afraid to act honestly for fear they will not get reelected.

2. Demand a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution so that Washington is foreced to live within its means and they don;t destroy this nation for the next generation.

 

Fight for these two things, and watch the impact is has on the 2012 elections at all levels

October 14, 2011
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Washington Politicians work for money not for our country. Every aspect of the corporate world is filled with greed. It's all about money and greed. I said it years ago, greed is going to destroy this country. I think our nation stand a better chance if we through out all of the politicians and start over from the ground up. Corporate executive should all be placed on a large ship with an equally large hole in it's hull. The 99% of us who have been allowing ourselves to be led around by the nose need to stand up and fight. If you're luck enough to have money in a bank, make sure it's in a small hometown bank or credit union. If you're fortunate enough to be able to buy groceries and other needs, buy them from the locally owned businesses instead of the mega stores. In fact if it's listed on Wall Street, avoid it like the plague. 99% of this country's tax paying population should be able to bring everything to a halt!! Stop using, stop buying, stop enabling the dirty 1% of our nation!

October 14, 2011
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too much overlap between corporate greed, bailouts and wall street impunity...................

October 14, 2011
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Our government which used to be "by the people for the people",  has been captured by the Banking Cartel and Multinational Corps..If  you don't have an issue with that I don't know what to tell you..It's not a Liberal Issue..It's not a Conservative issue..It's all of our problem. The unemployment situation is a symptom of that...These people are protesting this problem and voting is not going to cut it.

 

 

October 14, 2011
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46% are protesting government corruption, but 99% are protesting outside of D.C.

October 14, 2011
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nickhowdy:

 

I think a lot of folks, including Republicans, have issues with lobbying. However, you and the protestors appear to assume that the government is somehow the victim. Wall Street is acting within the laws set by Congress. You want to change the laws, change your representatives. That's why so many of us criticizing the protestors are amused- the protest is entirely misguided which amplifies how clueless those behind it are.

October 14, 2011
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Honestly, it's amusing to me that so many are up in arms against "Wall Street," comprised of corporate entities who are required to seek profit for its shareholders. Yet, so few seem to be up in arms over our civil servants in Washington, all who somehow leave the nation's capitol as millionaires (w/ lifetime pensions).

October 14, 2011
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Adding all %s to 119 (1618192046) dismisses most of the blog and most of the discussion irrelevant.

I think including those in Occupy protest, CNN also don't have any clue.

CNN, Atleast have your main objetive right before you post anything.

October 14, 2011
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FarRight screen name is right on.   Made up mis-information.   He should report for FOXnoise.

October 14, 2011
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Which protest movement do you favor more, Occupy Wall Street or the tea party?

Occupy69%92509

Tea party31%40946

Total votes: 133455

 

This says it all......

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

--PAPARAZZINC DOT COM

JOHN V

October 14, 2011
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One demand everyone can get behind....

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

October 14, 2011
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ONE DEMAND ONE SOLUTION ONE CONCLUSION ONE DEMAND

 

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN

 

--paparazzinc dot com

john v

sarah goss

scott johnson

bailey

October 14, 2011
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If we get rid of the corrupt politicians, we wont have anyone to vote for next year.

October 14, 2011
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I think you're missing the larger point of all this.  The movement is about a paradigm shift.  This country took a turn in the 80's toward selfishness.  All the issues above revolve around one larger theme: we need to stop being a self centered culture and seeing things only for what they can do for me.  We need to see the bigger picture and start looking out for each other. 

It's hard to believe that so many on the right and left who see themselves as christians don't seem to get this.  It's basic to all religions to not take too large a slice of the pie. 

Between the congress, the president, and the supreme court, our government seems to think the short term "I want mine" mentality is what's good for the country.  These protests are about changing that.

October 14, 2011
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I hope this is updated. 75 responses? really. I think you will find more people ticked off at Wall St. for taking what little money we had in it. All I want is to see some people jailed for stealing trillions from us and being charged with grand larceny.

October 14, 2011
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The ratio of average CEO compensation at large U.S. companies to the average production worker’s pay was about 40 to 1 in 1980, according to The Economist. The magazine reported that the ratio had risen to 85 to 1 by 1990, and then soared to about 400 to 1 from 2001- 2003 and ranges from approximately 400 -800 in 2011.

So as we can see the high increases did start at the same time the Bush Tax-Cuts, Grover Nordquist came on the seen in 2001, 2003, the Tax Repatriation act of 2004.

This is where the Dodd-Franks Bill does come into play.  So far the say-on-pay has been initiated, the disclosure of the CEO’s pay so that all of the US is aware to allow decisions on to support the company or not. Maximum wage is an idea which has been enacted in early 2009 in the United States, where they capped executive pay at $500,000 per year for companies receiving extraordinary financial assistance from the U.S. taxpayers.    For example, there are no meaningful limits on how much companies can deduct from their taxes for the expense of executive compensation. The more they pay their CEO, the more they can deduct.  Tax Payers subsidized 20Billion to this companies through accounting loopholes in 2010.  A proposed reform to cap tax deductibility at no more than 25 times the pay of the lowest-paid worker could generate more than $5 billion in extra federal revenues per year.  Although a proposal such as this one would tighten controls on pay to executives.  

So as a number of these companies DID NOT or WILL NOT pay Taxes due to what they pay their CEO’s, and the US Taxpayers subsidize this excessive executive compensation, then  yes, this needs to have additional regulations placed on it.  Tiny steps have been taken, maybe a few too late, but all I know is 25Million People have been affected by these CEOs and their Greed….

 

 

Our economic system is now Corporatism, which does not follow the laws of Capitalism. Corporatism seeks to control supply, control demand, conspire to fix prices, eliminate economic competition, reduce wages, and undermine democratic institutions with bribery.

In a Corporate Economy, global corporations conspire to reduce supply, lower quality, manipulate demand, reduce the field of competitors to a small band of conspirators, reduce wages, and increase price. Corporations skillfully raise prices during a crisis: a freeze in Florida, political instability in Libya, etc. They are not the naive players that Adam Smith imagined.

Conservatism is the enemy of and the destroyer of capitalism. Conservatives have no plans to pay down the debt. Their plan is to cut taxes on the wealthy while they reduce spending – holding the National Debt at its current high level forever so they can forever blame “Liberals” for it and always use it as an excuse for government inaction.

What Corporatism is doing to us is this: Corporations are learning that it is more profitable to overwork existing employees without raising salaries than it is to hire new ones. The presence of a large unemployed class motivates workers to accept any kind of abuse to keep their jobs and it keeps wages low. The Liberal successes of the past – the living wage, the 40 hour week, the 8 hour day, workplace safety, laws against sexual harassment, etc. - are being dismantled by global corporations and their Republican handmaidens in Congress

 

It is about moving from Corporatism back to Capitalism - capping Corporate Funding, Lobbying for Laws and Lawmakers.  But most of all, it is trying to bring back a society within he United States for our children and Future Children that will not consist of working for 2.00 a day as being prposed by the Koch Brothers, Michelle Bachmann, Cantor as they move to Abolish Minimum Wage as being lobbied by the Business Roundtable.  It is to not take two steps back as Cantor and Ryan continue to repeal Abortion Rights -- it is to bing back Separation between state and church...

 

 

October 14, 2011
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"What are you protesting?"

 

Unfair game rules,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's it

October 14, 2011
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"What are you protesting?"

 

1,sky is blue

 

2,Obama is black

 

3,Wall Streeter is White

 

4,pocket is red

 

 

October 14, 2011
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@Benbuttons you can be amused all you want..Glass Steagal was repealed on behest of Enron and Citbank/Travelers...This was done by a Republican controlled Congress and Democrat President (Clinton) via Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 and Gram-Leach-Bliley. Phil Gram was the main criminal/politician involved with getting these bills passed..

 

Now you have a new set of politicians then you get Dodd-Frank..Didn't fix a thing..

 

Wall Street and the government are both culpable for the mess that is the USA today..

 

There are protests in DC and NY and everywhere...     

October 14, 2011
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The poll is exactly right if you understand that #2 and #3 are a result of #1.  It is all the same thing.  Huge corporations give huge contributions to politicians who no longer serve the people, instead they serve those corporations.  Banks get in trouble.... no problem.. here are the bought-and-paid-for politicians to bail them out.. and.. wink-wink... don´t worry, we aren´t going to investigate or try to increase oversight or anything like that.

October 14, 2011
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All of this bickering is what got the middle class into this mess in the first place...you guys do realize that right?  So long as the middle class stays divided amongst itself they stay disracted from the real issues.  That is why it took twenty years for the middle class to get this mad.  This movement is like eating an elephant.  Take it one bite at a time. 

If the media wants a crystalized message for the OWS movement then it should be: "PASS HR 1489!"  because the one thing we all seem to agree on is that deregulation of the banking and finance sectors in this country has lead us here and should be stopped. 

Banking and finance deregulation is the open wound bleeding this country's citizens dry.  Apply pressure there first.  FDR did and low and behold we came out of the Great Depression.

October 14, 2011
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nickhowdy:

 

You're missing the point again. Those companies are free to lobby, free to attempt to influence politicians, so long as it is legal. Who makes the laws? Who is in a position to change the laws? To ignore the lobbyists? To no accept money? etc. Corporations exist to maximize the returns for their shareholders within the bounds of the law. Focusing on these entities for doing what they're charged is silly and misguided. Ignoring the Congressmen and women who make the laws and who are in a position to lessen corp involvement in politics is ignorant.

October 14, 2011
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TO Plumrabbit,

 

Yikes follow the money.  Your right the money is so lucrative out there at the marches every body making a buck.  should be a week or so before people are able to retire for life and pay off thier homes and/or get them back.  Who's writing the checks again?

October 14, 2011
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Republicans stop being scare of socialism and DO something for once!! Do something for American people this site is full of you people so pasive and comfortable with you low paychecks and do nothing against corruption, HELP America or STFU!!!!

October 14, 2011
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What are we protesting? A broken and corrupt Gov't that is more interested in getting itself re-elected, than in solving the country's problems, unemployment, home forclosure, lack of health care, high cost of education and a 10 year old War, that keeps on costing us Blood and Treasure. Until we get politicians to start to compromise and work together to fix the country's ill's, we will continue our downward slide. The Gov't better wake up, before they have a Revolution on their hands. The people are fed up.

October 14, 2011
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These people should stop wasting everyone's time. I bet if a recruiter when out there offering jobs he would leave empty handed.

October 14, 2011
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Convicting criminals of course would be one.  Yes, there are consequences for bad behavior.  It's incredibly painful to watch people go through that, but you get better kids (all ages evidently) in the end.

 

Stopping money laundering and bribes through Pacs and SuperPacs would have to be one.

 

Reverse Citizens United.  Corporations are not people.  And no you can't put known carcinogens in our food and not label it.

 

Make Isreali's and others register as foreign agents with the Department of Justice Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).  The purpose of FARA is to insure that the U.S. Government and the people of the United States are informed of the source of information (propaganda) and the identity of persons attempting to influence U.S. public opinion, policy, and laws. In 1938, FARA was Congress' response to the large number of German propaganda agents in the pre-WWII U.S.

 

Getting Health Care off the backs of industry would have to be one.  The U.S. cannot compete with countries that have a real national health plan.  It gets added to the price of the product here. They know that.

 

 

October 14, 2011
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Recall Perry.  Fine Merck off the planet.

October 14, 2011
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With half of America aging (ready for retirement) and the other half being non-white, it was fairly easy for the Republican party to decide to sell out... In their eyes we're all just expensive liabilities. Communist China is the new place of opportunity! With few regulations and government underlings cheaply bought, it's the new Mecca for Corporate America to exploit ... But not to worry, ye lowly Americans: After the GOP finishes destroying us (U.S.), the rich will be back in droves buying up what's left for pennies on the dollar. When that time comes the GOP will be there again, arms outstretched again, fists filled with cash again...

 

October 14, 2011
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75 responses to a survey?

 

Wow.... actually, that's pathetic. Most of these people don't really have any actual grievance - other than some conceptual ideas (in other words, they don't really even know why they are there). What we need is a good hard freeze, early snoow, or another hurricane coming up the east coast to give these people something real to do. Sad, pathetic, losers.

October 14, 2011
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Can someone ask Jerry Brown - if he is not OCCUPIED, “Why have you allowed Hewlett Packard to Outsource 350,000 Professional U.S. Citizens?”

 

What was Jerry Brown doing as Attorney General from 2007 – 2011?

 

Why is California at 12.1% unemployment?

 

Hewlett Packard Executives are Corporate Terrorists.

HP alone has OUTSOURCED over a 350,000 Professional U.S. Citizens.

 

What is an HP executive? What is a Narcissist? nahr-suh-sist A person with a mental illness, who thinks their family values are better than our families and our values.

We the People of The United States of America have a Warrant for Hewlett Packard Executives. We have your addresses and will see you soon...

 

October 14, 2011
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Better to do something now rather than later,wake up USA you are being sold out, take a look around you things are gettin worse by the day..................

October 14, 2011
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Ya going love this  www.occupyfoxnews.com

October 14, 2011
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Get behind ONE demand. Here it is...

 

DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN.

 

 

 

--paparazzinc dot com

October 15, 2011
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Wow, this thing is bigger than I thought....they are up to 119%  119% of what isn't clear.  What they want isn't clear, where they came from or who is organizing isn't clear.  Just ask anybody there though; what they are doing is important.  Just too bad I am busy working 60 hours a week and don't have time to go do something so important.  What our economy needs is for people to go find jobs, not go out and demand to be given jobs.

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