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    Saturday Snore Fest - Dems Debate

     

    No  wonder CBS and the Democratic Central Committee scheduled the second  Democratic presidential debate on a Saturday night where viewership  would be low. The night was more a snore fest than the lively,  unpredictable spectacle we have seen with Republican wannabes.

    Now there were some snores that were loud enough to rouse one from slumber, but those were few and far between.

    It  is not that there was not substance during the face off between Hillary  Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley, there was. But most of the  time the hopefuls were in agreement or their arguments were made  without much gusto.

    I use the word argument loosely.

    After  opening with a moment of silence for the victims of the terror attacks  in Paris, France, the first segment dealt with what the US response to  the horror and with dealing with the Islamic State in general. All three  believe the US should have a role, but the degree of role was slightly  in dispute.

    This  set up one exchange which both Sanders and O'Malley took issue with  Clinton. Clinton said the US had no role to which both rivals looked  shocked and emphatically disagreed, saying the US must lead. However,  the two contenders agreed with Clinton that others should be the ones  most involved in the actual ground work.

    In  a move to distance herself from President Barack Obama, Clinton said  that the caliphate could not be contained, but must be destroyed. The  President on Friday, the same day as the Paris attacks, claimed that  ISIS was contained. The White House later said the President was only  talking about stunting territorial gains in Syria and Iraq.Not that the  moderator,

    John  Dickinson, let her have a pass as the former Secretary of State for  Obama. Dickinson questioned her judgment and that of the President when  he said that ISIS was contained and referring back to, while she was  still SoS, that the Islamic State was junior varsity.

    Clinton deflected.

    Clinton,  however, did not cut the umbilical cord completely from the current  Administration. She once more stressed as she did in the last debate  that as Democrats, the Affordable Care Act, which is the President's  signature domestic legacy, must be embraced.

    Sanders,  however, said that the ACA should be repealed and replaced with a  single-payer system nationwide by expanding Medicare to cover all  Americans. In one exchange last night,

    Clinton  took umbrage saying Sanders had "impugned my integrity". This came  after Sanders insinuated that Clinton's support from Wall Street was  because of what the financial district expected to be able to get should  Clinton become President.

    In  what came across as awkward, Clinton said her Wall Street support was  because of her aid in helping Wall Street rebuild following 9/11 when  she was a New York Senator.

    Many  were left scratching their heads about her reference to 9/11 including  former architect of Obama's successful race for the White House, David  Axelrod.

    Axelrod tweeted his disbelief on Twitter: "@HillaryClinton vehemently offers support for Wall Street as post-911 recovery effort. Does that fly?"

    While  O'Malley got the best and only laugh lines, the former Governor of  Maryland and Mayor of Baltimore was out of his league. He did refer to  Republican front runner Donald Trump as "that immigrant-bashing  carnival-barker".

    Another  line, which will probably not be remembered, is when O'Malley stated,  "The symbol of America is the Statue of Liberty not a barbed-wire  fence."

    There  a few other skirmishes, but all in all, the candidates were pretty much  in agreement on the issues. Clinton, however, was wanting greater  control of guns than Sanders, but not by much.

    As to who won the debate, I must agree with the pundits and talking heads.

    Clinton won only because she did not have a major screw up.

    Sanders  and O'Malley both had a chance to lower the boom, but backed off when  they could have won a point. It almost seemed, especially with Sanders,  the secondary contenders were afraid that closing the deal might cost  them the women's vote - whether they were right and Clinton was wrong.

    Sanders  had Clinton on the ropes on campaign finance, but could not bring  himself to throw the telling punch. This became more weird to watch as  Clinton rejoined, to loud applause, that 60% of all her donations came  from women.

    What did we learn?

    Hillary is on her way to being the Democratic nominee for President.

    There is that small caveat that the FBI does not turn up something in her emails that could lead to an indictment.

    Should that happen, what will the Democrats do?

    From the Cornfield, rest easy there will not be another debate until December 15 on the Republican side and December 19 on the Democratic wannabes.

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